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Dershowitz: Zimmerman Affidavit ‘Irresponsible And Unethical’
wagist.com ^ | 13 April, 2012 | Dan Linehan

Posted on 04/13/2012 10:55:07 AM PDT by marktwain

Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz made an appearance on on MSNBC’s Hardball to discuss the Zimmerman arrest affidavit, and had some incredibly harsh language for Angela Corey concerning her actions in the George Zimmerman prosecution.

Dershowitz is a well-known Democrat with a column on the Huffington Post, but seemed stunned by how poorly written the affidavit was, going so far as to call it “irresponsible and unethical,” as well as Corey’s actions politically motivated. He also said that if the prosecution didn’t have more evidence for the case than what we’ve seen, “a good judge would throw it out.”

Here’s the interview:

Smerconish: Joining me now, Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz. Professor, I’ve really looked forward to this conversation. You’ve seen the affidavit of probable cause, what do you make of it?

Dershowitz: It won’t suffice. Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin; this is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge. There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second degree murder. The elements of the crime aren’t established.

Basically what’s in the affidavit is what’s in the public domain, with the exception of a few little things that were put forward by your previous commentator. But the fact that the mother identified the voice as that of her son, of course, we all knew that was going to happen. There’s nothing in there of course either about the stains on the back of Zimmerman’s shirt, the blood on the back of his head, the bloody nose, all of that.

It’s not only thin, it’s irresponsible. I think that what you have here is an elected public official who made a campaign speech last night for reelection when she gave her presentation, and over-charged, way over-charged. This case will not, if the evidence is no stronger that what appears in the probable-cause affidavit, this case will result in an acquittal.

Very strongly worded statements from Dershowitz, who basically stopped just short of directly claiming Corey engaged in prosecutorial misconduct by her actions.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; dershowitz; martin; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanaffidavit
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Interesting that Alan Dershowitz says this. He is not following the liberal playbook.
1 posted on 04/13/2012 10:55:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I swear he is getting more and more conservative as he ages...and the more I age, the more I seem to appreciate his comments!


2 posted on 04/13/2012 10:58:50 AM PDT by Starrling
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To: marktwain

You don’t even have to be a lawyer to see there is nothing to this. The defence attorney could have written it.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 10:59:27 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

Dershowitz is a well-known Democrat with a column on the Huffington Post, but seemed stunned by how poorly written the affidavit was...

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Of course it was poorly written. It had to be dumbed down so the ignorant cracker hating race baiters could understand it.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 11:00:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: marktwain
The Dersh has been extremely quiet on liberal things the past few years, and has actually come out on the side of common sense a bit.

I think he may be having a hard time admitting that a liberal utopia conflicts with liberty, justice, freedom, and reality.

5 posted on 04/13/2012 11:01:59 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: marktwain

What worries me is that Zimmerman’s new lawyer strikes me as being pretty much on the prosecutor’s team. I think he’s a plant.

I think the fix is in.

This is going to be a slow-motion lynching which (since it’s 2nd degree murder) won’t end in an actual body hanging from a tree limb but “only” life in prison (where he will most likely become a body dangling from the end of a metal cot).

Zimmerman, I fear, is a lost cause. And though my heart goes out to him, I don’t believe there’s much any of us can do.

I can only hope this wakes up the Hispanic community to the reality of their “ally” in the White House.

This whole thing is orchestrated from the White House, of course.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 11:04:17 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: marktwain

Rush was talking about this. The theory is, that Angela Corey knew that Zimmerman can’t be convicted and never should have been charged, but for the good of her career (and perhaps, safety) she brought charges with a royally screwed up affidavit that would then force the judge to dismiss the case on a technicality. Thereby getting her neck out of the noose.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 11:04:36 AM PDT by apillar
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To: marktwain
I have often said that scientists who really love science should speak most loudly against the Global Warming Scam. It hurts the entire profession when a bunch of con artists take over the dominant narrative.

Just so, lawyers who realy love and respect the law should speak most loudly against the abuse of the law for PC propaganda. It hurts the entire profession when a bunch of con artists take over the dominant narrative.

I think Dershowitz really respects the Law and I think he sees where the Law has become simply a political tool used by criminals in high places.

8 posted on 04/13/2012 11:06:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: marktwain

Dershowitz is a liberal, but he seems to be a lawyer first and foremost, and he isn’t merciful to what he sees as sloppy lawyering. This is starting to sound like Corey aiming as high as she can and hoping to either get a jury to convict on a lesser charge, or get Zimmerman to plead to a lesser charge. With a good dose of Nifong-style pandering to the Democratic base thrown in for seasoning.

}:-)4


9 posted on 04/13/2012 11:06:44 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bingo! A placated document for a placating act.


10 posted on 04/13/2012 11:06:44 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: marktwain

I thought the same thing, even though I am not a lawyer.......but I play one on FR................


11 posted on 04/13/2012 11:07:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: apillar; All

The judge just came up with an excuse about why she should be recused.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 11:09:14 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: samtheman

On what possible basis do you believe Zimmerman’s lawyer secretly works for the prosecutor?


13 posted on 04/13/2012 11:09:36 AM PDT by Williams (a)
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To: marktwain
This means something. Obama has done the deed.

Slow to anger and quick to mercy...

The last people in the world you want to anger is the Jews.
Slow to anger does not mean ‘never’.

Obama and Co. has done it.

The word ‘wrath’ comes to mind.

14 posted on 04/13/2012 11:10:22 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: samtheman; All

” This whole thing is orchestrated from the White House, of course.”

Obama and Holder cooked this up. The race pimps, and MSM didn’t really enter the equation much until Obama “adopted” Trayvon. Any blood resulting from this belongs to Obama.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 11:11:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: apillar
for the good of her career (and perhaps, safety) she brought charges with a royally screwed up affidavit

I can see the possibility. It's kind of ridiculous, but I won't discount that theory out of hand.

But we certainly live in unusual times when a professional decides that for the sake of her career, when she is handled a major case of national interest, her best bet is to screw the whole thing up by writing an affidavit which makes her look like a fool. An unusual strategy for career success.

16 posted on 04/13/2012 11:11:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: marktwain

Zimmerman must and will be convicted, thrown to the wolves,so to speak. Facts and law mean nothing to his case. Blacks must be placated!


17 posted on 04/13/2012 11:11:38 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: marktwain
I hope Zimmerman is acquitted, sues for false arrest and/or malicious prosecution and wins big.

And I hope Angela Corey loses her job.

18 posted on 04/13/2012 11:12:04 AM PDT by South40 (Mitt is full of Shtt)
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To: apillar

Is Angela Corey deliberately throwing out a ricidulous and trumped up charge so “benefit” Zimmerman? Will this be thrown out?

Maybe. But others think she is dumber than Mike Nifong. She may really believe the Duke Univ. boys were guilty, And Obama was right; that the cops did “act stupidly”, and that Tawana Brawley was really raped, and Zimmerman hunted down and assassinated an innocent child.

Never underestimate a liberal woman with legal and political clout. They are insanely dangerous.


19 posted on 04/13/2012 11:13:27 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: apillar

The affidavit is probably sufficient. As for Dershowitz he’s an arrogant jerk with a long history of criticizing other attorneys as incompetent. It’s an Ivy League thing it’s how they make money.


20 posted on 04/13/2012 11:13:36 AM PDT by Williams
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To: samtheman

“Zimmerman, I fear, is a lost cause. And though my heart goes out to him, I don’t believe there’s much any of us can do.”

May I humbly suggest you go run, hide, and cry.

Cowering, whining “we are so screwed” defeatists.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 11:14:38 AM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: marktwain

did zimmerman’s lawyer work for AMTRAK? cos the poor guy’s getting one hell fo a railroad job!
if this ain’t mob justice, I ain’t ever seen mob justice. the law? they don’t need no steenking law!


22 posted on 04/13/2012 11:15:39 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Starrling

That’s my reaction to him too. He’s liberal, but in his Harvard University setting, he’s probably the most conservative person around.


23 posted on 04/13/2012 11:15:49 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: apillar

Does the judge dismiss the charges with or without prejudice? The former, I would suspect, since “jeopardy attached”, which means that there is not a damned thing the State of Florida can do to him. Wait for Holder’s people to take a run at him on “Civil Rights” charges.


24 posted on 04/13/2012 11:16:19 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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To: marktwain

Here’s what is really going on: The establishment knows Zimmerman acted in self defense; that’s why the initial prosecutor refused to charge him with anything. To respond to the public outcry, they charged Zimmerman with second degree murder - a charge that requires intent and one they will never prove nor get a jury to convict on. If they had charged manslaughter, it is possible a jury would have convicted - but they will never convict for second degree because it requires intent. Before everyone falls in love with Dershowitz, realize that his criticism of the affidavit comes from this perspective - he knows the state has “overcharged” and therefore he knows already that Zimmerman will walk...so Dershowitz is lamenting that the fix is already in to clear Zimmerman.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 11:16:56 AM PDT by majormaturity
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Any blood resulting from this belongs to Obama.

yes, it does. With intent and malicious forethought. Aggravated, as they say.

26 posted on 04/13/2012 11:17:48 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: apillar

I don’t think the people on Fox have read the affidavit, because today they have a hate on for Zimmerman


27 posted on 04/13/2012 11:19:04 AM PDT by molson209
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To: 240B

Obama and Holder planned this meticulously, Black Panthers, MSM, and all!!


28 posted on 04/13/2012 11:21:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

“Dershowitz...going so far as to call...Corey’s actions politically motivated.”

If by political he means career, then I agree.


29 posted on 04/13/2012 11:26:51 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: majormaturity

“Clear Zimmerman”.

Before SHTF :

I’m setting up perimeter watch. Attaching DC current to fence wire. (Bait optional)

Clearing brush for 100 yd. firing zone 360.

Can food and ammo, can food and ammo... (Don’t forget dog food for the cuddly “Killer”.)

Oh yes , must get few trenches dug and fitted w “incendiaries”, for surprise reception.

Hope it’s all for nothing.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 11:29:50 AM PDT by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: molson209
Obama and Holder and Sharpton and the Black Panters have all injected themselves into this case. They are all now eligible for discovery.

They are all involved now and able to be ‘called’.

Guaranteed however, they will be ‘protected’ by the GOP. Interesting isn't it? That the so called ‘Liberals’ would become instruments of the GOP. Nazi vs. Stalin. Amazing, here we go again. Round two of Left vs. further Left.

31 posted on 04/13/2012 11:30:01 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"I think Dershowitz really respects the Law "

Well, I might believe that if the Dersh critically investigates Obama's (in)eligibility issues.

You know, the

Well, Mr. Dershowitz, what have you to say?
32 posted on 04/13/2012 11:30:46 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Obama and Holder cooked this up. The race pimps, and MSM didn’t really enter the equation much until Obama “adopted” Trayvon.

The LSM was all spun up on this before Obama commented. He certainly added fuel to the fire.

33 posted on 04/13/2012 11:31:32 AM PDT by ironman
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To: Starrling
He seemed to have his eyes opened first with the OJ trial, then with Clinton's impeachment when he lied every day for Clinton and made himself look like a complete idiot.

After those two cases his credibility was pretty much zero and he knew it.

34 posted on 04/13/2012 11:33:38 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Starrling
I swear he is getting more and more conservative as he ages...and the more I age, the more I seem to appreciate his comments!

If you're over the age 30 and you still believe in the socialist utopian dream with reckless abandon then you're just an idiot! Liberals are nothing more than conservatives with no common sense. Liberals are selfish adolescent prix who won't let go!

35 posted on 04/13/2012 11:36:20 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Perhaps she was persuaded to sacrifice her career with a flimsy charge/evidence scenario, just to get past the “we just want him to be arrested” crowds. They possibly believe this case cannot result in a conviction, and have just gone through the motions, with no real meat to the charges or anticipated outcome.


36 posted on 04/13/2012 11:37:22 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: ironman

I saw very little on this until Obama gave it “credibility” It would have died off, if it weren’t for Obama.


37 posted on 04/13/2012 11:38:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: apillar

Mark Levin took the indictment apart last night on his show.


38 posted on 04/13/2012 11:42:23 AM PDT by LifePath
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To: apillar

I thought about this possibility and hope it is the case. I worry about Zimmerman’s safely in the general prison population.


39 posted on 04/13/2012 11:44:29 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: molson209
I don’t think the people on Fox have read the affidavit, because today they have a hate on for Zimmerman

Shepard Smith keeps referring to the dead thug Trayvon as a "child". Live like a thug, die like a thug.

40 posted on 04/13/2012 11:52:08 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: marktwain

It better damn not be thrown out or acquittal or the ghetto is gonig ta burn baby burn.


41 posted on 04/13/2012 11:55:44 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: marktwain

A Democrat accusing another Democrat of prosecutorial misconduct??

Say no more.


42 posted on 04/13/2012 11:56:04 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Starrling

LOL! I was thinking along the same lines!

Why is Smerconish on Hardball? Has he totally gone over to the dark side??? I know he voted for Obummer but I thought he was a Republican. I could never stand him anyway...


43 posted on 04/13/2012 11:59:38 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Anyone But Obama in November !!!)
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To: Starrling

“Hypocrisy is the homage that vice pays to virtue.”

Dershowitz does something like this when his hypocrisy becomes even more than he can bear.


44 posted on 04/13/2012 12:02:16 PM PDT by donna (Mitt? NEVER!)
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To: apillar
"Rush was talking about this. The theory is, that Angela Corey knew that Zimmerman can’t be convicted and never should have been charged, but for the good of her career (and perhaps, safety) she brought charges with a royally screwed up affidavit that would then force the judge to dismiss the case on a technicality. Thereby getting her neck out of the noose."

So this was all done with a wink and a nod to Zimmerman? Corey, knowing full well the case will go nowhere, is clear to super size the 'compassion' towards Martin's team...since there will be none once the trial starts?
I don't know. There's a little too much evil genius in that..

45 posted on 04/13/2012 12:03:20 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: ArmyTeach
The Florida authorities blinked at the Federal pressure. Obama needs the overwhelming support of the black community to carry the swing states of NC, VA, OH, and FL. If the Florida authorities get Zimmerman convicted, sending him to prison and certain death, a la Jeffrey Dahmer, the blacks will see Obama as their messiah. There is some risk with alienating Hispanics, but Zimmerman, although he looks Hispanic, had a father of German or Jewish origin, and thus is not regarded as “pure” enough for the standards of La Raza. The race hustlers lost on the Tawanna Brawley and Crystal Magnum cases, but they smell blood this time.
46 posted on 04/13/2012 12:04:44 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: majormaturity

If it goes to trial, it will depend on who the jurors are. 12 liberal jurors who are already convinced that Zimmerman is guilty could listen to the evidence and pronounce him guilty. Afterwards they would hold press conferences complaining about the fact that “first degree murder” was not an option before them.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 12:04:55 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
" Wait for Holder’s people to take a run at him on “Civil Rights” charges."

Not likely. Now that the world knows Zimmerman is latino.

48 posted on 04/13/2012 12:05:34 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: majormaturity

And WHEN he’s cleared or aquitted, it’ll be on like donkey kong with holders people and all the boys who look like they could be obammas sons. Thats why this story was
brought to the top of the media crap pile.

Maybe they could even move the trial to Simi Valley just
for nostalgic effect.

Be prepared,depending on where your neighborhood is.


49 posted on 04/13/2012 12:05:59 PM PDT by americas.best.days...
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To: South40
I hope Zimmerman is acquitted, sues for false arrest and/or malicious prosecution and wins big.

And then files a defamation suit against the media, Al Sharpton, the NBPP, and Obama.

50 posted on 04/13/2012 12:12:02 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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