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Murder, hate crime charges in Tulsa shootings
AP ^ | April 13, 2012

Posted on 04/13/2012 11:18:08 AM PDT by maggief

Oklahoma prosecutors filed murder and hate crime charges Friday against two men arrested in an Easter weekend shooting spree that left three people dead and terrorized Tulsa's black community.

Jake England, 19, and his roommate, Alvin Watts, 33, each are charged with three counts of first-degree murder, two counts of shooting with intent to kill and five counts of malicious harassment. The harassment counts allege the victims were targeted because of their race.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
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1 posted on 04/13/2012 11:18:13 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

That one will be an open and shut case.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 11:28:03 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: maggief

They are already facing the death penalty so why does the hate crime charge matter? It provides a talking point for race pimps Sharton, Obama, and Jackson.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 11:32:38 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: maggief
Maybe I've just missed the coverage but I'm surprised this is not wall to wall 24/7 hype.

Where is the just us bro’s, this seems to be a case tailor made for their cause.

4 posted on 04/13/2012 11:33:51 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: BO Stinkss

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/04/12/Jesse-Jackson-wants-federal-probe-in-Tulsa/UPI-11541334268368/Jesse Jackson wants federal probe in Tulsa

Published: April 12, 2012 at 6:06 PM

TULSA, Okla., April 12 (UPI) — The Rev. Jesse Jackson wants a federal investigation of the recent shootings in Tulsa, Okla., saying local officials are reluctant to call it a hate crime.

Jackson, who plans to visit the city this weekend, said there is a pattern of blacks being attacked in Oklahoma, with a number of unsolved killings.

“There is a pattern of attacks on blacks here, and that’s why we’re urging the Department of Justice and the FBI to intervene,” Jackson said. “It’s not unlike the old South, where local officials spent an awful lot of time covering their tracks.”

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5 posted on 04/13/2012 11:37:27 AM PDT by maggief
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If Obama is re-elected, expect Holder (on behalf of Jackson and Sharpton) to start forcing white farmers off their land....


6 posted on 04/13/2012 11:39:47 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Except England is Cherokee, and father was shot and killed by an AA.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 11:40:42 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Hmmm! One of these individuals may have engaged in the killings due to the murder of his father by a black. Berserkers?


8 posted on 04/13/2012 11:42:08 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: maggief

The truth is that the prevailing pattern for decades has been blacks murdering other blacks and whites. Crime statistics and prison populations tell the story.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 11:43:07 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: maggief

It’s not hard to believe that the young man whose father had been murdered illogically transferred is rage from an individual to a race. The hate crime charge is legally appropriate but doesn’t add anything. It’s always sad when innocent bystanders of any race or ethnicity are murdered for irrational hatred.


10 posted on 04/13/2012 11:45:40 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: maggief

...while Robert and Nancy Strait’s BRUTAL rape and murder is quietly swept under the rug...


11 posted on 04/13/2012 11:45:40 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: maggief

Ah, good point.

Al and Jesse never were detoured by inconvenient truths before though...I guess they’re just going to stick with their new pet, Martin.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 11:46:11 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: maggief
"Except England is Cherokee, and father was shot and killed by an AA."

"England's father, Carl, was fatally shot in 2010 by a black man who had threatened Carl England's daughter. After tracking down Pernell Jefferson, the men fought and Carl England was fatally shot. Jefferson was not charged with homicide because an investigation determined he acted in self-defense."

Looks like England's father was killed while attacking an armed citizen who utilized a stand your ground law.

13 posted on 04/13/2012 11:51:17 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: maggief
If I was on the jury I'd vote “not guilty” on any “hate crime” charge regardless of the evidence presented to me.On the murder charges,if the evidence supported it I'd have no problem voting guilty...and,unless there were some kind of *extraordinary* mitigating circumstance (brain tumor being an example) I'd have no problem voting for the DP.The fact that the guy's father was killed by a black guy (assuming that that's *actually the case*) isn't *nearly* good enough an excuse for me to vote against the DP.
14 posted on 04/13/2012 11:52:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: maggief

So, they’ll get put to death for murder. And because it’s a hate crime they’ll REALLY be put to death.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 11:52:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: maggief

Shooting Death of Jake England's Father Was Ruled “Self-Defense”

I've been casually reading this story for a week.

I keep looking for info about any criminal records for the two white perps - but never see anything.

My instincts say these two white guys are not fallen angels.

And, my instincts say the Associated Press may be deliberately withholding that news.

However, the AP has consistently reported that England's father was shot and killed by a Black man two years ago.

Then, today, this sudden disclosure in the last paragraph of an AP story:

“England's father, Carl, was fatally shot in 2010 by a black man who had threatened Carl England's daughter. After tracking down Pernell Jefferson, the men fought and Carl England was fatally shot. Jefferson was not charged with homicide because an investigation determined he acted in self-defense.”

Since news coverage of the Tulsa racial murders is directly related to the George Zimmerman “self-defense” case in Florida, you have to wonder why AP took so long to tell us about this.

I would not be surprised if Conservative bloggers in Tulsa have finally forced AP’s hand.

16 posted on 04/13/2012 12:03:06 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: BO Stinkss

Hate crime laws are stupid. MURDER in and of itself is a crime of hate.


17 posted on 04/13/2012 12:11:30 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: zeestephen

Has the AP yet to report England’s race as Native American?

Reuters claims he’s at “at least part Native American.”

: o /

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/13/us-usa-crime-tulsa-idUSBRE83C19K20120413

Both England and Watts were described in the charging document as white, though England has been described as at least part Native American.

The Tulsa killings followed the shooting death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, a case that has captured national attention largely because of race.

Martin, 17, was black, and the shooter, 28-year-old George Zimmerman, is white and Hispanic. Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 12:17:22 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

There was no justification for England and Watts to shoot the blacks in Tulsa. England may be angry about his father’s death, but that was ruled self defense. The prosecution should have no problem with this case.


19 posted on 04/13/2012 12:28:41 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: maggief

If the alleged “white Cherokee” here was applying for a college affirmative action scholarship as a Native American would he be denied?


20 posted on 04/13/2012 12:32:29 PM PDT by Argus
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To: maggief

I saw the Native American heritage report in the first news story I read on this - but, haven’t seen it again.

That information came from some kind of previous court filing, but no details were given in the article I read.

Black Americans getting shot by Hispanics, Native Americans, and other Blacks has no political value to the Democratic Party, so it’s “bring your own shovel” if you’re interested in that subject.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 1:20:24 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: maggief

100 miles west and you can rape and murder all the honkies you want, without hating!


22 posted on 04/13/2012 1:30:16 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: maggief

A “white-native-American” no doubt. The Left’s war on whites continues, Rich Lowry still cowers.


23 posted on 04/13/2012 2:00:31 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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