Skip to comments.We will not waste our limited resources on FR in support for a liberal progressive LIAR
Posted on 04/13/2012 12:13:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
A reminder for those who are not receiving the message:
Romney is a pathological compulsive liar. Lie after lie papered over with more lies. Doesnt even flinch when caught in bald faced lies, simply tells another big whopper to cover up or dodge the issue. Funny thing, the man actually seems to believe his own latest lies and simply ignores the glaring record of his past actions/lies. And you have true blue establishment elite RINO Republicans like Karl Rove enabling and backing up his lies. Their motivation is simply to hang on to power (and riches) any way they can.
Ive stated many times since Romney started running for the presidency way back when that Id never vote for him and I will not. He cannot lie his way out of his decades long record of support for abortion, Roe v Wade, planned parenthood, gay rights, gun control, global warming, amnesty, liberal judges, big government, compulsory or socialized health care (RomneyCommieCare), mandates, Keynesian economics, support and approval of TARP, bailouts, stimulus packages, i.e, every damn liberal progressive issue that comes down the pike.
Cmon. These are the reasons the tea party sprang up and the reasons he and Rove loathe the tea party and our tea party conservative candidates. Romney famously expressed his loathing for Reagan-Bush conservatism several years ago when he was trying to run to the left of Ted Kennedy and now hes cloaking himself in Reagan conservatism, knowing full well that its a lie, but he knows its the only way he can possibly win, er buy the Republican nomination.
Screw Romney!! I absolutely will not support or vote for a proven compulsive liar with a known record of abortion and big government socialism, liberal appointments, etc. He still lies about RomneyCommieCare today. Calls it a conservative solution. Get real!!
Listen to what Ronald Reagan had to say about the elites pushing socialism on America via compulsory health insurance:
Ronald Reagan speaks out against RomneyCommieCare
There will be no campaign for this Massachusetts liberal liar on FR!!
Damn the libs and RINOS, full steam ahead!!
But no matter what happens we must turn out in November to vote IN as many conservatives and vote OUT as many rats as possible at all levels of government. If we don't have a conservative at the top of the ticket we must turn out anyway and vote straight conservative DOWN ticket!! Just think of it an off cycle election and pour on the TEA!! It'll be doubly important that we control both houses of congress and as many statehouses as possible.
Restore the 10th amendment!! Impeach the leftist president whoever he may be!! Restore Liberty!! Rebellion comes from the bottom up!!
WOO HOO!! I CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM MY HOUSE!!
No Bama!! No Romney!! Go tea party rebellion!!
Is that the standard reply in lieu of an intelligent response?
Statesmanship? no calling out his loss of a “moral code”?
Well then stamp your feet and huff and puff.
Boehner confronted Obama numerous times. The House confronted Obama numerous times. We can’t all live in dream land.
I’m not happy with the likely outcome either.
Myself, I doubt Palin cares much about her place in the GOP. I could be wrong though. Personally, I don’t think her or Newt will have much of a place in the GOP establishment, especially with Newt staying in until Tampa. I still think the establishment could be in for a rude awakening next month.
Yes we ARE to judge. What is only God's job is to condemn.
Knowingly supporting a candidate that backs abortion and homosexuality is sinful. By voting for someone like that, YOU are supporting it. Do you REALLY think God will approve of voting for murder and sexual sin?!
Romney is NOT the nominee yet. Perhaps you should read this before advising others what to do.
The purist fantasy is never satisfied without 100% conformity... and apparently “super majority” results with only one chamber of Congress.
This time around we have a “D” who will likely strongly pull from his party. Our “R” candidate (if Romney) will not have a lot of enthusiasm from the base. The mushy independents have soured on the Anointed One, but without a strong “R” candidate, I expect them to stay home in droves.
So what we have is strong “D” turnout, mediocre “R” turnout, and poor “I” turnout. This will result in 4 more years of Obummer.
If a strong conservative ran as a third party candidate, they would possibly energize those “R”s who would stay home, and pull in some independents. Moderate “R”s would still vote for Mittens, “D”s would still vote for Obummer, possibly in even higher numbers in fear of the strong Conservative.
This scenario leads to Obummer winning with a strong majority of electoral votes, but with only about 40% of the popular vote.
Do you know of a Conservative who will be eligible to be on the ballot in all 50 states, who is so energizing that in a little over six months they can come out of nowhere and beat Obummer?
Staying home might teach the Rino’s a lesson, but lets remember that these are the same people who were perfectly happy to be the minority party in Congress for over 40 years.
Do you take meds? Missed a dose?
Mitt Romney created the contraceptive/abortifacient mandate and Obamacare, both of these men reject the Constitution on freedom of religion.
I won’t stamp my feet and huff and puff. I will do everything I can to send him packing in November.
Take a look at this thread.
Mr Conservative, please tell me, in detail, how it is that voting for a man who...
Actively supports abortion with his own money and through passed legislation advances conservatism and brings an end to that decidedly unconservative activity.
Voting for a man who Has been a vocal advocate of and passed laws supporting homosexual ‘rights’ over your own and laws like gay marriage advances conservatism and brings an end to that decidedly unconservative activity.
Voting for a man who invented and continues to promote Romneycare IE Obamacare advances conservatism and brings an end to that decidedly unconservative activity.
Voting for a man who strongly believes in mandates advances conservatism and brings an end to that decidedly unconservative activity.
Voting for a man who denied Reagan and his policies advances conservatism and brings an end to that decidedly unconservative activity.
Also, please explain in detail how a person claiming to hold conservative values can suspend those values to vote for this man and just put them back on like a pair of socks after that vote is done, then look at himself in the mirror and say, “Yup, I’m a staunch conservative” without that reflection laughing hysterically at such an obvious display of situational ethics...something anathema to conservatism.
In fact, all you ABO voters are welcome to take a shot.
Your grandmother was judging those at her church? For shame!
It’s in the Bible somewhere. Right near the passage that says providing support and giving power to those who abort babies is the surest path to heaven. In fact, you get beamed straight up and don’t even have to check in with St. Peter.
I can’t think of the passage right now but a lot of posters seem convinced it’s there, so I’ll go with that.
I wrote in some candidates in the 2010 election. We needed their addresses, as well as their full names, if I recall correctly.
She was actually pointing out to her children the hypocrisy of those who profess to be the most Pious, her point in doing so was to give the message to her children that if you're going to be Pious in Church you better be the same outside of it, if not then do the best you can inside and outside of Church. My Grandmother believed in a good loving forgiving God.
And while we're at it, we have people being murdered everyday in our Country and around the world, we have people in parts of the world being starved by their own leaders, do we seriously think people voting for the presumptive Republican nominee are God's priority?
Because of course, God cannot multitask.
My Grandmother who was born in the early 1900's, she was a very quiet woman yet a very wise woman, she would go to Mass and see the most pious of people there, then she'd see them outside of Church and they were mean miserable people, 1 day she said to my Mom and her siblings that "people will be surprised who they see in Heaven". My point? God is the only 1 to Judge, no 1 else, and to presume that God will Judge harshly those who vote for the eventual nominee if it's Romney? that's arrogance beyond belief, and it's not your place to presume how God will Judge.
Your grandmother can judge others, but no one else except God? How convenient for you.
Trisham... this actually rings a bell... wasn’t something like this (almost exactly) discussed a couple or 3 years ago? I think you were in on the discussion too.. maybe it is my memory failing (or dejavu)) :p
Mitt's religion believes that their god was once a man, and had to "work his way" up to Godhood...seems to be catching.
And He is. He's also holy and righteous. We don't sin deliberately, figuring, oh, what the heck, I'll ask forgiveness later. That makes a mockery of Christ's sacrifice.
"And while we're at it, we have people being murdered everyday in our Country and around the world, we have people in parts of the world being starved by their own leaders, do we seriously think people voting for the presumptive Republican nominee are God's priority?"
50 million infants have been aborted since 1973. You don't think that's a priority to the Lord? Thanks to Mitt Romney, women in MA are having their $50 abortions as we speak.
Meh....I had one glass too many last night, and it loosened my tongue. That hasn't happened to me in too many moons to remember. I think you know that I don't normally speak that way to folks.
Still, this is one of the most heated threads I've ever seen on this forum. I won't lie - some of the comments left me very emotionally charged, and I didn't hold back when responding. I'm not going to walk back anything I said, but I have taken a walk from the discussion today, just to keep my cool.
I haven't checked today. Is that one still here?
At this point I think you’re just wasting your time and effort. I know exactly what your grandmother was saying and she was 100% correct. I have seen it myself. Your grandmother was in know way presuming to know who was getting into heaven.
I think I’ll take my chances.
I don’t know. I’ve learned a lot since I’ve been here. :)
29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Fathers care.[a] 30 And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 So dont be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.
Then go ahead and vote for Romney. Just let us vote the way our consciences dictate.
Last I checked, unfortunately yes :/
Amen Mary. Could not have said it better.
I have kept my nose out of this fight until now. I am a montly contributer and agree with 99% here. I have given $100 to Cain and $350 to Newt. This money as I told my wife is for our future. Meaning getting the Marxist out of the White House.
I am in the Coal Industry and if he isn’t out by January of next year I will never retire. I bought 13,000 shares at $60 and now it is $10 due to his regulations.
For anyone to tell me not to vote for the Republican nominie can kiss my ass. This man Obama is destroying our country and anything I still have for a retirement. My kid’s and grandbabbies are screwed. Don’t vote for Romney (if he is the guy) and show everyone.........not in my house! This is not Concord or Bunker Hill. We have a Republic that is being taking over by a communist.
Over the last week I can’t believe the way this site has turned. The F/U’s are flying from the boss and I never thought I would see that day.
I have been loyal to the cause here, but if the Mod’s and Jim fill it is time for me to move on, so be it. This is my life and my kid’s.
I love my Country more than Free Republic.
Bravo! Your grandmother makes a great case AGAINST romney.
He acts like a wonderful family man, yet he doesn't hesitate to murder the most defenseless in their mothers womb. Or care much for those who survive the womb to be sodomized by his Log Cabin buddies.
Good on Granny!!!!
Judge not lest ye be judged.
I am astounded that people on FR are seriously trying to biblically justify their support for an abortion legislating, gay legislating compulsively lying candidate.
That’s the kind of things Muslims turn to in justification for jihad isn’t it? That their ‘god’ is cool with it?
More specifically, when they head down to Dubai or one of the other hell holes to act western, isn’t it because it because Allah cannot see there so it makes it OK? Sure looks a lot like “God has other priorities” thinking to me.
Well, when people are forced into lying to themselves to justify actions they know are wrong, what else can they do? Since it’s unlikely Jesus Christ will appear in a blaze of glory and say,
“Er, No, you are not making me happy by electing a man whose actions resulted in me working the return aisle of the stork hangar...and BTW, the babies were quite damaged upon arrival back upstairs”
They just pretend it’s all good.
I cannot in words, communicate my disgust regarding people so freely willing to abandon their very faith to elect Romney. I want to, but I just cannot find the words. So be it. I’m not the one who will stand before God on that matter. I have enough to account for and will not add dead children to my sins.
Or not if the circumstance demands. Many Christians will not cast a vote for evil, lessor or otherwise.
Mitt better find Jesus and soon on abortion if he wants a chance at the presidency.
It is arresting to imagine a Romney White House, inevitably filled with as many former Bain colleagues as each of his other public ventures have been: The PowerPoints, the 80-20 jargon, the clinical separation of decision-making from ideology, the detachment of those decisions from moral consequence, a persistent blind spot for people as people. It would represent the final ascension of a perfectly American type, one that has already remade the culture of business. I once asked a Bain colleague of Romneys how Romney thought of his own core competence. I think Mitt thinks hes good at being Mitt Romney, the colleague said.
When you take scripture out of context you deserve to be called on it. You also took my prior post out of context too. You seem to only know how to take things out of context to have it suit whatever you’re trying to want people to believe.
What you do and who you vote for and why is your business, but I’m here to tell you that I absolutely will not give my consent or support or vote to a baby murdering, homo agenda pushing, gun grabbing, liberal judge appointing, global warming hoax pushing, amnesty pushing, big government tyrannical socialist healthcare authoring enemy of Liberty!!
And I too am committed to working until they day I die. I already have no other choice.
From the Declaration:
All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. To secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
I absolutely refuse to grant my consent to a man or political party who spits onto the face of God and our founding principles while governing!!
That is indeed the case. Americans of the Founding Generation were motivated by centuries of oppression and bondage, which they were willing to bear any price to escape.
As you said, the current generations of Americans are the fat and happy heirs of all that so many millions of their forebears toiled, bled, and died to produce. They are too far removed from the stark pain and horror of those days to fully appreciate what a magnificent country was bequeathed to them. They do not value it as they should, because they've never known true deprivation, oppression, and bondage.
Things lightly valued, are also easily thrown away. Thus we have the widespread adoption of enslavement ideologies such as Communism, Socialism, and liberalism. If Americans who hew to those 'isms knew what those societies are really like, they'd beat feet it back to Old Glory in a heartbeat.
Great quotes, by the way. Thank you.
One of the most misused Scriptures. It is about hypocrisy. If you're an alcoholic you have no right to judge anothers drinking.
Let's look at the whole Scripture rather than take it out of context.
1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye.
Is abortion murder? And if so, what do you do with murderers? Especially murderers of babies?
You elect them as Republican presidents for they can beat Obama, silly!!!
When you push, people naturally rebel, when you pull you allow people to come to their own conclusion, ergo they will become an ally, and steadfast in the same ideals you brought them to.
Reagan was an expert at it, that was his ability to reach the people.