Skip to comments.Newt Gingrich: United Nations should adopt treaty giving everyone on earth gun rights
Posted on 04/13/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
ST. LOUIS Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says the United Nations should adopt a treaty giving everyone on the planet the right to bear firearms.
The GOP presidential candidate told the National Rifle Association convention Friday in St. Louis that the group has been too timid in promoting gun rights.
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>> Newt said the UN should acknowledge this God-given right.
>> I don’t think it was God’s plan that everyone own guns
Is having a “right” a requirement to exercise it? Of course not.
The UN should be disbanded and kicked to the curb.... they have no authority over any American, they can go straight to hell.
Who here said the UN had authority over ANYONE, much less any American?
Are you claiming Newt said they do?
He said no such thing.
The very idea that the U.N. could tell country’s what to do is so repugnant that this alone drops Newt down a step in my judgement. I don’t care what they are telling country’s, its wrong.
National Rifle Association Meeting - Part 2 3:09:30 Rick Perrys Speech
Not trying to defend the UN’s document, only noting some differences:
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a generic document, and a bit of a “motherhood statement”, which is not country-specific. It is supposed to cover a broad range of “universal” issues, such as: freedoms, justices, international relations, and so on.. promoting utopian vision & aims - also, it was written in 1948, post-WWII.
The US Constitution & the Bill of Rights, OTOH, were written nearly 2 centuries earlier (1789?), in a completely different historical, political and cultural context, very specific to the US, herself.
Hard to compare the two. But, factually, I agree with Livius: “that many countries accept international treaties as superior to their own law. This is, in fact, one of their legal principles, and its what gives the UN and other such bodies so much clout.”
Newt was cleverly exposing the U.N., and proposing a radical idea that would increase freedom throughout the world. But a percentage of people here won’t understand that. All they hear is that Newt in some way acknowledged that, like it or not, the U.N. has some sway in what many countries do, therefore Newt is a communist. There used to be more of a thoughtful, Bill Buckley conservatism here. Now we have more of a John Birchite, knee jerk reaction to everything. If you present an idea that has any complexity to it, people won’t listen or they will read into it things that are not there.
Rather than focusing on the issue of US involvement in the United Nations, it may be more helpful to read this article which has a lot more detail about how Romney doesn’t have a strong NRA record and Gingrich does:
You are absolutely right and this is a much bigger issue than Gingrich and the United Nations comments at the National Rifle Association.
Some things can be boiled down to sound bites. Most important things can't be.
Those of us who are willing to support Newt Gingrich need to remember that he's a college professor. He's written many books. He understands that speaking at two different levels — the sound bite and the book — are both important.
You can't be a conservative and not value the Constitution, and that means learning quite a bit about American history.
The meeting is set for 4 p.m. at Pappasito's Cantina, 723 Central Expressway. Space is limited and the audience will be part of a 30-mintue question and answer period.
You miss the point, watch the speech.
You don’t get it, just watch the speech to see what he’s saying.