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Obama paid lower tax rate than secretary
foxnews.com ^ | April 13 2012

Posted on 04/13/2012 5:35:31 PM PDT by KSanders

President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama had a combined income of $789,674 in 2011 but paid a lower tax rate than the president's secretary, who made less than $100,000, the White House confirmed Friday.

The Obamas paid an effective rate of 20.5 percent. White House aides would not reveal presidential secretary Anita Breckenridge’s tax rate but confirmed it was higher than the first family's rate. Breckenridge earned $95,000 last year.

The Obamas' rate is less than the 30 percent the president wants millionaires to pay under his proposed Buffett Rule.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buffetrule; bushrates; hypocrisy; obama; obamataxes

1 posted on 04/13/2012 5:35:41 PM PDT by KSanders
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To: KSanders

See?? He’s brilliant!! He’s obviously a financial genius! Just what this country needs! [/Libspeak]


2 posted on 04/13/2012 5:37:03 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: KSanders

Which charity did he give to, and what has he gotten back from it?


3 posted on 04/13/2012 5:42:10 PM PDT by pallis
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To: KSanders

They donated juuuuust enough money to charity to get it down from the 26% they paid last year.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 5:43:11 PM PDT by digger48
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To: KSanders

The Bush rates are 35%.

Obama paid only 20%.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 5:43:53 PM PDT by KSanders
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To: KSanders

This is rich! Ha Ha. I LOVE it when Obama is a hypocrite. Liberals are always going on on the evils of conservative nd/or GOP hyprocrisy. It must really burn up liberals that Dear Leader is a big fat nasty hypocrit. THANK YOU for posting this thread.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 5:48:30 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is afraid if he needs to start a fight with Catholics. He's losing the women's vote!!!)
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To: KSanders

Obama just can’t win in todays world. The information age is his biggest enemy. I wonder if he’ll ban the internet now?


7 posted on 04/13/2012 5:54:49 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: digger48

They donated juuuuust enough money to charity to get it down from the 26% they paid last year.

this just bull , if you make 789k what is you tax rate ? Not the the tax rate for the amount you paid after all the smoke and mirrors


8 posted on 04/13/2012 5:55:47 PM PDT by molson209
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To: KSanders

2.5%?????

Where do I get that deal? Mine is 33%.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 5:56:08 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: KSanders
More hypocrisy from the Kenyan.
10 posted on 04/13/2012 5:56:57 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: PghBaldy
It must really burn up liberals that Dear Leader is a big fat nasty hypocrit. THANK YOU for posting this thread.

Umm, I'm pretty sure Hussein is happy with this news. He WANTS to be able to show that secretaries are paying a higher percentage in taxes than their rich(er) bosses. This plays into his argument and he will use it to push his Buffet rule. Obama has been saying, and WANTS to continue saying, he should be paying more.

The goal for liberals is massive taxation. Obama is not worried about his current salary as he has plenty of benefactors will will take care of him later in life so long as he continues pushing his socialist agenda now.

11 posted on 04/13/2012 5:58:55 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: KSanders

I hate Sanctimonious people. They want the rest of us to live under a rule they refuse to live under


12 posted on 04/13/2012 6:08:23 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: KSanders

There is no law preventing him from paying his “fair share”. It’s obvious that he doesn’t want to pay his fair share. He simply wants others to.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 6:11:43 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: KSanders

Liberal hypocrisy du jour.


14 posted on 04/13/2012 6:23:13 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Anybody but Obama, because it's not always about me. Thank God McCain/Palin lost! - Right?)
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To: KSanders

Shouldn’t he insist on paying his higher rate?? Commiecrite!!
Most of those books were bought by unions and dumped in a landfill.

Pray for America


15 posted on 04/13/2012 6:32:41 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: KSanders
“The Obamas’ rate is less than the 30 percent the president wants millionaires to pay under his proposed Buffett Rule.”

Well he didn't make million dollars he made less than that because no one is buying his piece of crap book or books so I do not understand why Fox is making that point.
They should be making the point that his bracket dictated from the Evil Bush should be 35% but because of the tax loopholes his accountant maybe it was Turbo Tax Tim he paid 20%.
My husband and I paid 28% and lets just say our salary was 6 times less than what the Family Obozo paid.

16 posted on 04/13/2012 6:44:40 PM PDT by funfan
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To: KSanders

Man, I’m telling you. If we don’t clean up on this guy in the next couple of months and start painting him as the incompetent jerk that he his we deserve to lose the election.

This guy is better than Biden when it comes to giving us talking points.

Question is....are we smart enough to use them??


17 posted on 04/13/2012 7:10:04 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: KSanders

How incredibly stupid of Barry.

How could anyone think he could get away with not paying their fair share?


18 posted on 04/13/2012 7:42:31 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: KSanders

how much money do the Bush make?


19 posted on 04/13/2012 7:54:16 PM PDT by raulgomez05
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To: norwaypinesavage

“There is no law preventing him from paying his “fair share”. It’s obvious that he doesn’t want to pay his fair share. He simply wants others to.”

I don’t know about you, but I never liked the idea of a rich man telling me that for the good of the country, he was cutting his own tax rate. Just never sat well. So the part of it where O says that he and Buffett should pay as much in taxes as their secretaries resonates in me, and I think it is foolish not to realize it appeals to a lot of people. I remember all through the 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s, the maximum tax rates were 70% to 90% and the country did all right, so the idea of raising the minimum rate on those earning over $1,000,000 to 30% doesn’t fill me with dread.

Ronald Reagan raised the capital gains rate in his 1986 Tax Reform Act to 28%, taxing capital gains at the same rate as the maximum income tax rate.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 12:51:19 AM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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To: juno67

The hypocrisy of it all!

“Warren Buffett owes $1 billion in back taxes. He is fighting it. He doesn’t think he should pay it, but publicly he’s out there saying, ‘I’m not paying enough in taxes’ - Rush Limbaugh”

http://nation.foxnews.com/rush-limbaugh/2012/04/11/limbaugh-buffetts-tax-evasion


21 posted on 04/14/2012 3:02:44 AM PDT by greenhornet68
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To: juno67
Millionaires do not have warehouses full of gold like Scrooge McDuck, where they go to play every day. They rarely have any more cash lying around than you or I do. The rest of their millions is invested all around in society.

Every dollar that the government takes from them is one dollar less for jobs, restaurant workers, car dealers, service workers, and more. Every dollar the government takes from them and us is mostly wasted. I give you the Obama "stimulus" as a prime example of total government waste. I work for a multimillionaire. The last thing I need is for the government to take more of his money so that I will no longer have a job.

The rich already pay about half every dollar they earn to the government. How much more do you think should be confiscated from them?

22 posted on 04/14/2012 5:00:07 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: KSanders

This alone should be enough to wake up the independents and moderates.
Then again, I think that about once a week or twice a week.
Kick this two bit punk out of the WH!!!
And replace him with Willard?...puke

We are trapped!!!
God help us!


23 posted on 04/14/2012 5:23:01 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: norwaypinesavage

“Millionaires do not have warehouses full of gold like Scrooge McDuck, where they go to play every day. They rarely have any more cash lying around than you or I do. The rest of their millions is invested all around in society.”

Wow, what ideas. So you think people earning a million dollars and more a year have no more money laying around than someone making $50,000 a year? Do you think Romney scrimps at the end of the month so that he can make it until payday? Where do you come up with these ideas?

You’re right that the bulk of rich people have most of their money invested, but where? Does owning Brazilian and Australian mining companies benefit the US? How about Chinese ETF’s? How about Romney’s money in Swiss bank accounts or in the Cayman islands? How about we require that to get a lower rate, the money they are investing has some benefit to the US economy?

Do you know that some 25% of the top 1% of earners are doctors and lawyers? Do you really want to encourage these guys to consume more of the US economy than they already do? Why should they pay any less than what their secretaries pay?

Finally, you say the rich pay a 50% tax rate. Where did you get that? The article says that Romney paid 13.9% in federal taxes, and Obama, a little over 20%. Both of their secretaries paid more.


24 posted on 04/14/2012 8:09:32 AM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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To: realcleanguy

He was trying. Remember that thing a few months ago that gave him the power to shut it down if there’s an “emergency”?


25 posted on 04/14/2012 8:23:44 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks KSanders.

Have a great day, all.


26 posted on 04/14/2012 8:29:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: realcleanguy

Nice how they didn’t show page one where the money came from....


27 posted on 04/14/2012 8:31:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Gaffer, you dumbass....that page would have shown the fake SS number he’s using now....


28 posted on 04/14/2012 8:32:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: juno67
If you notice, I said CASH, not money. Of course they have A LOT more money, but it's not sitting around in a warehouse. It's working.

Similarly, do you thing that raising taxes on that money will stop them from putting it in businesses in Brazil or Australia?. Of course not. The higher the US taxes are, the more money they will invest elsewhere. That's why raising their taxes will (has) caused job losses.

Note I said total taxes, not federal income tax rate. Most of the rich earn money from an income, not from capital gains taxes like Buffett and Romney. When you have an income, you cannot hide money from the IRS. You pay Federal income taxes (35%) plus state income taxes (about 5%), payroll and Medicare taxes (2 to 15%), Sales taxes (7%). That's already at more than 50%. How much do you think they should pay?

29 posted on 04/14/2012 11:35:42 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: KSanders

Otherwise, is Obama signalling that a 20% across the board tax is fair???
Afterall, BO is a lead by example President.
Speaking of leading by example..Is it our American right to get two paid vacations per month. Including a couple rounds of golf a month..?
I mean, it must be good for the economy or BO wouldn’t do it,right?
Especially, during the greatest repression, oops I meant recession, since the Great Depression.


30 posted on 04/14/2012 2:51:44 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: norwaypinesavage

“Similarly, do you thing that raising taxes on that money will stop them from putting it in businesses in Brazil or Australia?. Of course not. The higher the US taxes are, the more money they will invest elsewhere. That’s why raising their taxes will (has) caused job losses.”

You’ve missed my point entirely. You can own Brazilian stocks like VALE, Chinese ETF’s etc..by buying them on the stock exchange. You sell them and your gains are taxed as capital gains at a maximum of 15% Why? How does this help the US?

” Most of the rich earn money from an income, not from capital gains taxes like Buffett and Romney.” Maybe it depends on how you define “rich.” I think for the very rich it is clear that they make most of their money from capital gains, and as a result, pay far lower taxes than ordinary working people. Also add in the fact that they don’t pay any payroll taxes (social security and Medicare) above $110,100 and you can see that they have a huge tax advantage over most Americans. The most obvious proof of this comes from the 400 highest income earners in the U.S:

“The top 400 households paid 16.6 percent of their income in federal individual income taxes in 2007, down from 30 percent in 1995. This decline works out to a tax cut of $46 million per filer in 2007, or a total of $18 billion in tax cuts for these households per year.

“To make it into the top 400, a household needed an adjusted gross income of at least $35 million in 1992 (in 2007 dollars) and $139 million in 2007.

“The decline in effective tax rates at the very top is due in large part to the capital gains tax cuts enacted in 1997 and 2003. The top marginal tax rate on capital gains is now 15 percent, less than half the top tax rate on wages and salaries. The top 400 taxpayers derived two-thirds of their income from capital gains and qualified dividends in 2007.” http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3090


31 posted on 04/15/2012 2:04:45 AM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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To: juno67

Your problem is that you are reading propaganda from the The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. If that’s your source of information, there’s no hope for you and it’s not worth my time to comment further.


32 posted on 04/15/2012 5:30:38 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

“...It’s obvious that he doesn’t want to pay his fair share. He simply wants others to....”

His approach is: “You do not pay as I do, but you pay as I dictate...”

Typical communist/liberal hypocrisy.


33 posted on 04/15/2012 6:38:59 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: raulgomez05

“how much money do the Bush make?”

As a non elected , private citizen, I hope he did well.


34 posted on 04/15/2012 1:32:46 PM PDT by KSanders
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To: norwaypinesavage

Which of my facts are you disputing? Do you ever bother to research anything yourself? If you had bothered to check, you would have seen these figures ultimately are coming from the IRS. Here’s the same from Forbes magazine:

“The 400 highest-earning taxpayers in the U.S. reported a record $105 billion in total adjusted gross income in 2006, but they paid just $18 billion in tax, new Internal Revenue Service figures show. That works out to an average federal income tax bite of 17%—the lowest rate paid by the richest 400 during the 15-year period covered by the IRS statistics. The average federal tax bite on the top 400 was 30% in 1995 and 23% in 2002.” http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/29/irs-high-income-personal-finance-taxes_0129_wealthy_americans.html

So it’s a 17% rate for the mega-rich, not 50% like you claimed. And you have never quoted a single source. I assume you just make up numbers to suit your arguments, and then you get upset when someone confronts you with the facts.


35 posted on 04/15/2012 11:02:54 PM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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