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Roger Ailes Unsurprisingly Jumps The Shark
C4P ^ | 4-13-12 | Ian Lazaran

Posted on 04/13/2012 11:41:17 PM PDT by Mozilla

Unless he’s being misquoted and there’s no reason to believe he is based on his track record when it comes to the Governor, Ailes isn’t even publicly hiding it anymore:

Roger Ailes says “Sarah Palin had no chance to be President.”

Ailes, on Sarah Palin: “Anyone think she had a chance to be president?” Says she, others are picked solely for ratings.

It’s tough to conclude from these public assertions from Ailes that he has any respect for Governor Palin. From my vantage point, the Governor appeared to be alluding to Ailes and his “news” network at times in her interview with Levin yesterday.

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Seems Fox News is citing with the GOP establishment over the tea party and conservatives. Now Fox News head Roger Ailes attacks Palin. Says she was hired for ratings and has no chance to win any election.
1 posted on 04/13/2012 11:41:36 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Correction: Meant siding not citing.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 11:42:19 PM PDT by Mozilla (GOP is going the way of the Whigs)
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To: Mozilla
Well, we can’t all forget about that so-called “course correction” that Ailes spoke of last year. It’s quite blatant now. (Will Fox News’ ratings now fall down to the levels of Cable News Network and Microsoft/National Broadcasting Corporation?)
3 posted on 04/13/2012 11:45:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Mozilla
Ailes also said today that Newt was not ever going to be on Fox again. Roger has got too big for his own good. They look at the conservatives as their enemies. Why does Sarah stay there any longer.
4 posted on 04/13/2012 11:51:02 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m doing my part. Haven’t watch Fox in months.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 11:52:53 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Christie at the beach

Maybe she should leave Fox, and Mr. Ailes is doing whatever he can to impel her to leave.

His statement doesn’t make sense, the one about hiring her only for ratings, if in fact she really has high negatives. It may very well be that in reality he is still a conservative who realizes there is nothing she can do for the nation at FNC, and she must go politically rogue.

She is very popular with the Conservatives and the Tea Party. I suspect the attack against Mr.Murdock’s news empire is what has resulted in an about face on the part of Fox News Channel. Mr. Ailes has been conservative for a very long time and I suspect he really hasn’t changed politically, just that the environment at FNC has altered considerably.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 11:58:44 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: Chaguito

You’ll notice that Fox News canned Fox Business’s Judge Napolitano show where at one point he talked about the failure of the two party system.

Then you’ll note Glenn beck left and he was upset at the GOP. Said at CPAC that republican progressives run the party in 2010.

Then Eric Bolling lost his Fox Buisness show and you’ll note if you see the Five that he goes off GOP script a bunch and argues with Dana Perino.

Then you will note that Hannity was silenced on the birther issue and sent home from a 2010 tea party event he was to cover.

So obviously, Fox News is starting to mess up. I wonder if being in New York City is the wrong place to be for a “conservative” network.

Only Cavuto and maybe Megyn Kelly and Fox and Friends are left at Fox News that I don’t feel has yet been 100% rooting for Slick Willard.

But even Megyn Kelly jumped the shark with recent comments thrashing C-Span as boring compared to Fox News when C-Span covers some conservative events like CPAC and Fox News don’t.


7 posted on 04/14/2012 12:09:32 AM PDT by Mozilla (GOP is going the way of the Whigs)
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To: SatinDoll

They hired Sarah to keep her out of the race. They knew she would energize the conservatives and the independents. Look at the past events with her. 20,000/40,000 crowds. They are fearful she will still make a leap into either helping Newt or by having an opening at a brokered convention. Sure wish her and Newt would team up to take on the media and the ruling empires. The American people would be so motivated in knowing reforms were possible. I think they fear this still can happen since Romney does not have this tied up. Something could come out on Romney still. They must be nervous. Romney has not been winning majorities. A conservative surge would crush Romney. They had to stop Reagan but they could not because of all of us. If they think Romney is strong, we know Palin or Newt could beat Obama(w/ reforms alone)


8 posted on 04/14/2012 12:09:48 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Olog-hai
“Will Fox News’ ratings now fall down to the levels of Cable News Network and Microsoft/National Broadcasting Corporation?”

No, they'll be worse, and for the same reason Willard will lose badly in November: real Progs beat fake conservatives, every time.

Does Ailes really think Progs are going to boost Fox News’ ratings by pandering to them? He's a fool if he does - they have far too many options that they can trust to look after their interests.

9 posted on 04/14/2012 12:12:37 AM PDT by decal (I'm not rude, I don't suffer fools is all.)
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To: SatinDoll

It feel like Fox news altered the same way CNN did in 07-08 when they were trying to get Obama elected. Not much different between what they did and Fox News is doing now trying to get Willard elected. Shilling out all credibility to get their stooge elected.


10 posted on 04/14/2012 12:15:48 AM PDT by Mozilla (GOP is going the way of the Whigs)
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To: Mozilla

Good posts and comments.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 12:16:07 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: decal
- > Does Ailes really think Progs are going to boost Fox News’ ratings by pandering to them? He's a fool if he does - they have far too many options that they can trust to look after their interests

You sure got that right-it looks like everyone in the media and of the political sphere are doing this -the true conservatives are the only ones who seem to understand what is happening.

12 posted on 04/14/2012 12:19:49 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Sarah Palin must get her priorities straight.

If her number one priority is her family, then quit FNC and go home, period.

The big money isn’t worth working with people who intensely dislike and disparage you, particularly your values. She must do what is right and I suspect she is dithering, though I hope not.

As for Romney, he is a fascist (a progressive) with money who is trying to buy the Presidency. He has bought people, which I find disgusting, as loyalty cannot be truly bought.

So we are left with BHO2 the communist and Romney the fascist being pushed by competeing news channels. I see the perfect opportunity for a sneak assault by the Tea Party, under the radar, with Palin and Gingrich.

A lot can be done when the big guys are only watching one another.


13 posted on 04/14/2012 12:26:31 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll
I think she is in a situation, if she leaves before her contract expires -they will come after her for the remainder of the contract. Millions, she will not have. She could leave if she said she was running for high office so that could get her out of any legalities maybe.

Someone in powerful position, needs to talk to both Newt and Palin and persuade them to do this for their country. Like Reagan, once it begins, no one could stop them. The powers to be realize this. If only the conservatives would fight together, we could keep him from getting his 1144. At least, we would have a chance to get a new person who has a better chance to beat Obama.

14 posted on 04/14/2012 12:45:55 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Olog-hai

We don’t watch Fox nearly as much as we used to. I liked them better when they were reporting and I was deciding. This so called fair and balanced crap is so wishy washy. I mean they hired the daughter of Jesse Jerkson!

I live in Chicago. Now I have to watch these left wing nut jobs not only on local news but also on FNC? Nope, I won’t watch FNC anymore.


15 posted on 04/14/2012 1:29:21 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Mozilla
Then you’ll note Glenn beck left and he was upset at the GOP. Said at CPAC that republican progressives run the party in 2010.

Progressives have always run the Republican Party. Starting with Lincoln it was always controlled by Progressives, even before the term was coined.

16 posted on 04/14/2012 1:41:26 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Chaguito

I don’t watch it either.


17 posted on 04/14/2012 1:50:00 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Christie at the beach

I am tired of the Left choosing everything for us. Quit listening to their BS and start fighting them with their own ways. You don’t have to lie.


18 posted on 04/14/2012 1:51:52 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Mozilla
“Sarah Palin had no chance to be President.”

Translation: "We would have seen to it that she didn't win the Presidency."

-PJ

19 posted on 04/14/2012 1:55:01 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Mozilla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaCemmsnNk

Judge Napolitano.How to get fired in under 5 mins

Roger Ailes’ bosses will ask for your political opinion after they’ve given it to you plebe.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 1:59:30 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Mozilla

That was also said about Sarah before she ran for mayor. And governor.


21 posted on 04/14/2012 2:15:07 AM PDT by tunedin
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To: Christie at the beach

She has a contract. I recall Roger was pissed when she went on Levines show to say she wasn’t running and was going to sit on her 1,000,000 contract


22 posted on 04/14/2012 2:39:34 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Mozilla

Well, chalk one up for Media Matters and the Obama Administration. It didn’t take them long to destroy the only half-way decent news channel we had. RIP FNC.


23 posted on 04/14/2012 2:39:46 AM PDT by RightLady (Throw the Traitors out)
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To: Mozilla

If Al Gore can own a TV Network - why not Newt’s conservatives (& benefactor Adelson) be encouraged to support and finance a Constitutional Cable Channel???????

It’s way past time for true capitalists to advertise their products and services on a TV channel that advocates for free enterprise, individual freedom and less Government rules & regulations.

Think FCC!!!!!!!!!!!


24 posted on 04/14/2012 3:33:39 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Newtrition - soul food for a starving America.)
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To: Mozilla; Sarah Barracuda; Bigtigermike; Al B.; sarah fan UK; ReneeLynn; rintense; ...
Ailes hired Palin thinking that he could control her like a puppet. In one article at the time (I remember seeing), he bragged about how he could influence rising political stars of the future.

She had none of it, and ever since then, he's been doing everything he can to undermine her, especially after Tucson, when he and the GOP-E threw her to the wolves. She was obviously aware of his game and started thumbing her nose right back at him, albeit in a fairly low-key manner to avoid any accusations of insubordination to protect her Fox contract.

25 posted on 04/14/2012 4:19:37 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Mozilla

Remember that little meeting that took place about two years ago between Ailes and the administration. My sense is they cut a deal...Fox would trend to the left and the administration would not push its FCC agenda which was a threat to only FOX. Memo to Ailes: I don’t care about “fair and balanced”, this is war and we don’t need another Chamberlain.

I have given up on watching anything on FOX these days except perhaps Greta only because she does a decent interview show. It was interesting watching her argue with Rover the other night over Rosen and her comments about stay at home wives albeit I did not agree with her position that she was not as bad as being protrayed by Rover because Greta knows her personally.


26 posted on 04/14/2012 4:20:42 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Mozilla

Being that everything Sarah does receives instant publicity and scrutiny, I wish she’d go out and stump for Newt just a couple times. It would change the whole spectrum of the 2012 primary, and national election.
Do it for our country, Sarah!


27 posted on 04/14/2012 4:25:55 AM PDT by Fireone (The time for Newt/Palin is NOW! (did I mention FUBO?))
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To: Christie at the beach
Why does Sarah stay there any longer.

She has a contract with them. My guess is that she has increased her appearances lately to fulfill it and then get out of there ASAP.

28 posted on 04/14/2012 4:26:28 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Mozilla

Sarah Palin jumped the shark when she didn’t run for the Alaska Senate in ‘10 against that (rhymes with punt). That was hers’ for the taking.


29 posted on 04/14/2012 4:29:39 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: personalaccts

He also didn’t like her One Nation tour last summer. In fact she had to cut her Gettysburg stop way short to make a fast run to NY for a hastily called meeting with the fat bastard.


30 posted on 04/14/2012 4:31:12 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: central_va

Sarah should do this, Sarah should do that. Sarah should go here, Sarah should go there. Sarah should say this, Sarah should say that.

blah blah blah!!!

Little bitter today or was it the coffee?


31 posted on 04/14/2012 6:01:50 AM PDT by ak267
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Ailes backtracks...sort of.

“When I hired most of the Republican contributors, none of them had any immediate prospects of becoming President —I wasn’t referring to any of their long-term prospects, including Governor Palin. I hired all of them because they made for good television at the time. Sarah Palin is young and nobody can predict the future.”

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/04/roger-ailes-runs-away-from-his-outrageous-comments-about-governor-palin.html


32 posted on 04/14/2012 6:02:59 AM PDT by ak267
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To: Mozilla

He was of course correct. Sarah did not have a chance at the nomination.

The proof is that she knew it as well and chose not to spend the time money and energy on a certain loss.

To make such a statement is not to discredit nor demean her outstanding conservative political philosophy.


33 posted on 04/14/2012 6:09:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: SatinDoll; All

If her number one priority is her family, then quit FNC and go home, period.


FYI. Palin has a studio room in her house. Many of her segments are done there. Considering the time differential (4 hours behind EST), most of her commentary is done in the afternoon when the kinds are in school or right before dinner.

It’s one thing be a commentator on Fox News, another to run for POTUS when it comes to family commitments.


34 posted on 04/14/2012 6:11:17 AM PDT by ak267
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To: bert

Didn’t you know that you are not allowed to have an opinion. No different than saying my beloved Mets will not make the playoffs.


35 posted on 04/14/2012 6:32:53 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Mozilla

Boycott Fox News. It was the conservative viewer's that made their ratings soar and it is the conservative viewer that will cause their ratings to plumment. Fox is turning into another dime a dozen left wing news station.

36 posted on 04/14/2012 6:56:10 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Mozilla
Fox picked Alan Colmes, Beckle, Geraldo, Juan Williams for their ratings? American people loved Fox News in the beginning because it was an alternative to the same ole left wing cheap news stations...now Fox is joining forces with them. Fox's ratings will sink like the Titantic
37 posted on 04/14/2012 7:04:41 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Mozilla
So obviously, Fox News is starting to mess up. I wonder if being in New York City is the wrong place to be for a “conservative” network.

Nature abhors a vacuum. If Fox is turning Left, then there should be an opportunity for another right-leaning news network of some type. And I don't see why it can't be located somewhere other than NYC. Heck, why does it even have to be a TV network at this point? Although I think the concept of centering a "network" around one personality is a mistake, I think Glenn Beck is onto something as far as starting a video-based Internet news channel is concerned. The Internet is becoming TV, so why not start a news station via the Internet?

38 posted on 04/14/2012 7:12:20 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Mozilla

Stopped watching FOX last year when their coverage started to mimic everyone else’s...

And I am soooo dissapointed in Sarah Palin; she really led me on with the bus trip etc.
I know she never said she would run, but her actions said otherwise-at least to me.

I have lost faith in her; yes, she says all the right things, but we need actions, not just words.

She took the job at FOX and that was ok,she’s got to pay the bills, but when she did the Today Show (?) or whatever show that was, I couldn’t even watch.

I don’t know who she is anymore. She’s confused me...

Sarah and Newt together would be like a dream come true; why can’t Conservatives put their egos in a drawer and work together to save our country just like all the progressives work together to destroy it?

Mrs CT Hillbilly


39 posted on 04/14/2012 8:06:16 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: Christie at the beach

Success, just like familiarity breds contempt.
Regretably Ailes, FNC “personalities” and GOPe look upon “us” as peons, they being the Patrons.

Sarah knew who she was dealing with and was sharp enough to releive them of some of their money.

The Mitt bias has been so obvious on FNC that we turn on FNC a LOT less and it sounds like we are not the only ones. Fox and Ailes have made enough to likely not give a damn.


40 posted on 04/14/2012 8:22:32 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Mozilla

>>>I wonder if being in New York City is the wrong place to be for a “conservative” network.

Fox never has been a “conservative” network. Ever. It’s always only been not as overtly liberal as the rest of them - which made it look conservative by comparison.


41 posted on 04/14/2012 8:25:40 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: katiedidit1; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Fox picked Alan Colmes, Beckle, Geraldo, Juan Williams for their ratings? American people loved Fox News in the beginning because it was an alternative to the same ole left wing cheap news stations...now Fox is joining forces with them. Fox's ratings will sink like the Titantic

Don't forget their more recent hires of lesbian activist, Sally Kohn, and Jesse Jackson's daughter, Santita Jackson.

Now that Ailes has also apparently said that Newt Gingrich will never be on Fox News again, the network barely has a pulse.

42 posted on 04/14/2012 8:47:01 AM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Mozilla

Whatever his motivation (more like a Ferengi than anything else), she has a platform for her views, so that’s win-win.

Mr. Ailes, complete this sentence: Sarah Palin brings Fox News high ratings because ________________________________.


43 posted on 04/14/2012 8:59:43 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: Christie at the beach

The problem with Foxney News is that its just not conservative. So after bashing Newt throughout the campaign and snarking Palin they probably wonder why Newt blasted them and Sarah is snarking back. We have watched CNN a couple of nights and they were more neutral on Newt than Fox. Ailes’ idea of a conservative is Krauthammer.


44 posted on 04/14/2012 9:46:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mozilla
Question....does any one think this may open a door for beck gbtv to go cable?....he has built a base of programing it seem on his Internet channel....i didn't think so but thing do seem the fox is moving away from a big part of their market share...it money left on the table to any one in the position to move in and take some of it
45 posted on 04/14/2012 9:47:47 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Mozilla; b9; bboop; Berlin_Freeper; Bikkuri; Brent Calvert 03969-030; BuckeyeTexan; bushpilot1; ...
Sarah Palin's New Ping List

"We'll keep our God, our guns and our Constitution."

46 posted on 04/14/2012 11:02:43 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: lonevoice

I haven’t watched Fox news in quite awhile. Too liberal for me.


47 posted on 04/14/2012 11:12:36 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Mozilla
It's pretty easy to stop watching FOX News.

Just DON'T turn it on and you won't have to watch it.

48 posted on 04/14/2012 11:38:37 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: onyx; Mozilla

FNC seems to be getting more like the LSM. There are only 4 shows that we sometimes watch and we used to watch almost constantly when home.


49 posted on 04/14/2012 1:57:14 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: onyx

For anyone needing a refresher course, THE UNDEFEATED is now free-streaming for Netflix viewers.

Good, good stuff.


50 posted on 04/14/2012 2:38:59 PM PDT by b9 (Newt is substance. The others are talking points.)
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