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A Right to be hostile: Why Trayvon Martin's Family shouldn't have to play nice
Ebony ^ | 4/13/12 | Jamilah Lemieux

Posted on 04/14/2012 4:51:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

I became sick to my stomach upon hearing that Sybrina Fulton, mother to murdered Trayvon, had stated this week that she felt that her son’s shooting death was “an accident.” I understand that Trayvon is her baby, not mine, and that a grieving mother should not only be given the space to mourn and emote as she sees fit…but that her emotions during this time can lead her to say things that the rest of the world can’t quite understand or co-sign. I get that. I also appreciate that Fulton had the opportunity to recant her statement later on HLN’s Nancy Grace, stating that she believes George Zimmerman had an “intent” in mind when he approached her son and “carried out that intent.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; hypocrisy; race; travyonmartin; trayvon; zimmerman
Also from this article, which would be laughable if it weren't so ignorant of the facts:

" We---Black folks---are so quick to forgive, so afraid of being perceived as unreasonable or uncivilized, that we tend to deny ourselves the very human right to be enraged."

1 posted on 04/14/2012 4:51:13 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
mother to murdered Trayvon

That's Libel, right there.

Zimmerman is going to be sueing people for decades.

2 posted on 04/14/2012 4:58:32 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: SoFloFreeper
I'm sorry, but that article is worst than the racist tripe normally spewed out by Cynthia Tucker.

The sentence just before your quote was (with emphasis added):

"It’s still worth noting how Martin’s initial suggestion that Zimmerman had shot her son in what was simply a bad encounter that got “out of hand,” speaks to a classic response to racist crimes. "

If Zimmerman is "white" because one parent is white, then our beloved Dear Reader is also white.

3 posted on 04/14/2012 5:02:15 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

As long as this decrepit subculture dominates 15% or more of our body politic, it will be very difficult if not impossible to restore our republic.

BTW, my white guilt bank account balance: $0.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 5:04:54 AM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

stating that she believes George Zimmerman had an “intent” in mind when he approached her son and “carried out that intent.”

And she knows this how? From the neighbor who witnessed her son, on top of and, beating the crap out of Zimmerman? Blinded by rage or the prospects of a cash settlement?
Sorry about your son and i’m sorry the race baiters probably got to you but the evidence I have read is against him.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 5:06:44 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Get hostile, Get dead. Easy.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 5:14:08 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: All

Says the magazine... “Ebony”.

Null and VOID. Moving along..


7 posted on 04/14/2012 5:26:13 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: SoFloFreeper
so afraid of being perceived as unreasonable or uncivilized
Perceived? So Detroit, Chicago, St Louis, Newark, etc., are just perceptions?
Gheeze, talk about delusional.
8 posted on 04/14/2012 5:27:24 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Jacquerie

BTW, my white guilt bank account balance: $0.

Ditto! I got tired of hearing ‘It’s a black thing, you wouldn’t understand.’ and that I was just too stupid to realize that I WAS a racist. ENOUGH!
Equal protection under the law or
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”.


9 posted on 04/14/2012 5:28:22 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
From the article:

Evidence suggests that a 26-year-old man with a well-documented history of bias against young Black men took it upon himself to patrol his gated community with a gun and hunted down a significantly smaller teen boy even after her was instructed by a 911-dispatcher to retreat.

From what I heard, Zimmerman was a registered democrat and a civil rights/social justice activist who helped organize a campaign to prosecute the police captain's son for the assault of a homeless black man. That doesn't quite fit in with the democrat mainstream media narrative.

10 posted on 04/14/2012 5:33:57 AM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Godebert

You are letting facts get in your way.Zimmerman has been portrayed as a raving manic waving a gun by the media and self hating Whites. no amount of facts will ever change that.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 5:38:54 AM PDT by sport
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To: griswold3
"BTW, my white guilt bank account balance: $0."

I believe that qualifies you for the white guilt EBT card.

12 posted on 04/14/2012 5:40:06 AM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m certainly glad the Black youths that ran amok and were beating people at the states fairs last year were just being friendly. It would have been hell if that was rage.


13 posted on 04/14/2012 5:40:14 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Some people just like feeling sorry for themselves and hating on Whitey. Especially if Whitey is Jewish. Zimmerman sure sounds Jewish to me.


14 posted on 04/14/2012 5:41:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
" We---Black folks---are so quick to forgive, so afraid of being perceived as unreasonable or uncivilized, that we tend to deny ourselves the very human right to be enraged."

Gee, maybe the reason young males in your race are viewed as uncivilized is that such a large percentage actually ARE.

Which is why pinheads like you are viewed as unreasonable - because you are clueless why Americans - including the likes of Jesse Jackson - are fearful about the concept of a black male approaching them.

15 posted on 04/14/2012 5:46:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SoFloFreeper
Evidence suggests that a 26-year-old man with a well-documented history of bias against young Black men took it upon himself to patrol his gated community with a gun and hunted down a significantly smaller teen boy even after her was instructed by a 911-dispatcher to retreat.

One sentence, multiple problems with even basic facts.

Zimmermann is 28, not 26.

Zimmermann doesn't have a "well-documented history of bias against young black men." In fact, he actually helped to organise an activist group to get the son of a Sanford police officer prosecuted after the boy beat up a homeless black man and it was swept under the rug by the cops.

He didn't "take it upon himself" to patrol his community - that was his role as a neighbourhood watch coordinator. One which he was fulfilling because said gated community had experienced several break-ins in the previous few weeks.

Martin was not "significantly smaller" than Martin. Martin was 6'2", 160 lbs (and that weight is just an estimate which is probably on the low side), while Zimmermann is 5'9", 200 lbs (and, judging from his pictures, it isn't the "really muscular and in shape" type of short but heavy, either).

Zimmermann DID back off after instructed by the dispatcher. However, by that time, he was being pursued by Trayvon Martin, who apparently had the intention of provoking a confrontation, so retreating did not guarantee a lack of contact.

16 posted on 04/14/2012 5:48:02 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Zimmerman sure sounds Jewish to me.

And HUSSEIN sounds MUSLIM to me.

17 posted on 04/14/2012 5:49:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
The lynch Zimmerman posse does not want or need facts, My FRiend. They have their own scenario that was given to them by their idols, the main stream media and the rev.[s] Sharpton and Jackson.

Attempting to get them to look at the facts is an exercise in futility.

18 posted on 04/14/2012 5:53:20 AM PDT by sport
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To: Yo-Yo
You have struck the nail on the head!

If Zimmerman is "white" because one parent is white, then our beloved Dear Reader is also white.

19 posted on 04/14/2012 5:53:27 AM PDT by Tomato lover
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To: Jacquerie

> BTW, my white guilt bank account balance: $0.

So is mine.

My parents were very poor Italian immigrants. Nobody in my blood line was every wealthy enough to have slaves of any ancestry.

In fact, it is very likely that my ancestors were enslaved by North African Mohametans who dominated the region for hundreds of years.

If anything, my “white guilt” balance is negative.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 6:06:03 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What right does a prosecutor have, without proper evidence, to cause the arrest and detention of an innocent man? When a judge throws out this charge the prosecutor should be forced to spend the same amount of time in lock-up then FIRED.


21 posted on 04/14/2012 6:12:24 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: SoFloFreeper
We---Black folks---are so quick to forgive, so afraid of being perceived as unreasonable or uncivilized, that we tend to deny ourselves the very human right to be enraged. We’ve been told so often that angry Negroes are bad that we have come to police our own emotions just as quickly as others have policed them for us.

Writer is so detached from reality. How do people get that way? The flash mobs that targeted whites this past summer were very concerned with being civilized.

22 posted on 04/14/2012 6:16:57 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Actually, a friend of Zimmerman says he weighs around 170, which seems reasonable from the pictures I’ve seen.

Martin: 6’3”, 160 lbs.
Zimmerman: 5’8”, 170 lbs.


23 posted on 04/14/2012 6:19:08 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I note no posts to comments at article’s source.

As Freepers we are so quick to forgive, so afraid of being perceived as unreasonable or uncivilized, that we tend to deny ourselves the very human right to be enraged.


24 posted on 04/14/2012 6:20:03 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ms. Fulton’s recant was “on advice of counsel” who are using her and her family as pawns in their race-hustling game. No parent should have to bury a child. We can’t imagine, and don’t want to, her anguish. Nonetheless, the family IS being use for the benefit of the race hustlers, attorneys and otherwise, who are looking for their own fame and fortune that will in no way ameliorate the family’s grief.


25 posted on 04/14/2012 6:31:36 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: SoFloFreeper

A perceived right to be hostile is likely why Trayvon is dead.


26 posted on 04/14/2012 6:32:46 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This whole case proves the Democrats will eagerly lynch one of their own to push an agenda.


27 posted on 04/14/2012 6:44:07 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: Jacquerie

My white guilt bank account is at 0% as well. I doubt I am alone at this point. You can only ride the guilt train but so far. Race card games are rapidly becoming nonstarters too. So what happens then?

This case is foolishness, and should serve as a slap in the face to any person of color who has managed to rise above the guilt and racist crap to take advantage of the benefits offered and become a successful memeber of society.


28 posted on 04/14/2012 6:53:57 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: agere_contra
That's Libel, right there.

No, it's not. It's her opinion of what happened. Opinion is (virtually) never Libel, particularly regarding a limited-purpose public figure like Zimmerman.

29 posted on 04/14/2012 7:01:44 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: EDINVA

I saw the sound bite...her main thrust to me was her relief at Zimmerman being arrested. From what I have observed from her statement, and read in various blogs, the arrest was key to permitting her to sue the Home Owner’s Assoc, and the state, and Zimmerman, any anyone else they could add for damages. Not saying she was not grieving her loss, just saying she intends to make lemonade out of it.


30 posted on 04/14/2012 7:12:43 AM PDT by kiltie65 (ui)
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To: Godebert

Wait! My white guilt card used to be full, so now that it is on empty I should have an EBT w/ no cash limit, right?

Yippee!


31 posted on 04/14/2012 7:38:15 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Click

32 posted on 04/14/2012 7:43:45 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: griswold3
“Ditto! I got tired of hearing ‘It’s a black thing, you wouldn’t understand.’ and that I was just too stupid to realize that I WAS a racist.”

Exactly correct!

I'm white and I like fried chicken and watermelon.

Now the PC crowd would call that “racist”. Just think about that. I can't say that “I like fried chicken and watermelon.”?

Instead of being so “into” being “Black”, maybe they should...

Work at staying out of prison.
Stop getting women pregnant and either aborting or abandoning your children.
Stop hangin with drug dealers and pimps.
Pull your pants up. (You're making a statement alright, but it's not a fashion statement)
Learn to speak English. (If you're in school, STAY IN SCHOOL!)
Knock that GIANT chip off your shoulder. (you're not BETTER than everyone else, you're just equal.)
Be American first, Black second, not the other way around.

I'm sure there are more, but there is a good start.

ps, for you uncle Tom, uppity Black, white sellouts, I'm not talking to you. You get it. It's not about being “White” it's about NOT being a Nigga. (with all due respect)

33 posted on 04/14/2012 7:55:47 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: kiltie65

As I understand from various threads/comments posted here, she’d have to have a criminal conviction of Zimmerman in order to sue civilly, successfully, that the arrest alone won’t do it, which of course is why the lawyers was flipping out at her mention of it as an ‘accident.’ You can imagine the attorney seeing a jury respond to that comment, and his big fat fee going right down the toilet. There does seem to be a sense of ‘gee, we DO miss you, Treyvon, but since you ARE dead, we plan to get rich!”


34 posted on 04/14/2012 7:58:03 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Only has to be charged. Remember the OJ case. Not guilty criminally but guilty in civil court. Parents said in press conference in NY with sharpton that they wanted Zimmerman arrested for the murder of their son but they didn’t care about a conviction! You can’t make this stuff up. Do they ever hear what they say?


35 posted on 04/14/2012 8:15:59 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Run SARAH run)
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To: Rapunzel

Thanks for the clarification. My mind (or what’s left of it) gets rather overwhelmed with the various and sundry aspects of this case. You can BET those lawyers are going to pound away at the family/girl friend (who you can also bet expects a ‘little something’ for her testimony) until they get their stories down pat. Thing is, I don’t think they’re that bright and may never really get it straight. Ultimately, like OJ, this will all come down to the jury if it gets that far.


36 posted on 04/14/2012 8:20:32 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: SoFloFreeper
"We---Black folks---are so quick to forgive..."

To borrow a phrase from Bachmann, there's no pony in what Jamilah's trying to shovel.

The lies created to push a racially divisive agenda using the Zimmerman case are not only dumbfounding in their temerity and brashness but in their ability to go unchallenged.

I fear for what we've become as a nation. Facts don't matter. Innocent until proven guilty? Doesn't matter. The rush to judgment in this case should scare anyone who lived through the "To Kill A Mockingbird" era of rabble-rigged justice.

Weighing in as he did, Obama showed just how small a man he is and how base in character. He failed as a leader to all Americans but, more sadly, he failed as a leader of what Att. General Holder once called "my people."

37 posted on 04/14/2012 9:03:40 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.

But whites are the evil ones.

38 posted on 04/14/2012 9:37:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

tagline ping


39 posted on 04/14/2012 9:42:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; All

What you all have said.

My white guilt bank account balance: $0, too.

They didn’t realize that Trayvon was missing for 3 days? I have read that on the Internet so maybe it is true, maybe it is not.

Losing a child is tragic, but maybe if he had been raised up not looking and acting like a thug, maybe things would have gone a lot differently.


40 posted on 04/14/2012 10:10:21 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject at hand.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
If this was an accident, it was an accident just waiting to happen.

How can she (or anyone) know Zimmerman's intent?

Intent, intent, intent.

What was Trayvon’s intent?

See, knowing intent goes both ways.

41 posted on 04/14/2012 10:14:29 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject at hand.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Zimmerman sure sounds Jewish to me.”

It could be Jewish but it could also just be German.

Not all “Zimmermans” are Jewish even though this time it could be.

Anybody know for sure?


42 posted on 04/14/2012 10:19:55 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject at hand.)
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To: Tomato lover

“If Zimmerman is “white” because one parent is white, then our beloved Dear Reader is also white.”

I’ve wondered about this, too. Do you get to pick whether you are black or white?

Do you get into college more easily if you are black? Do you get other things more easily if you are white?

How does one pick if one is white or black?

Just askin’......


43 posted on 04/14/2012 10:24:33 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject at hand.)
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To: EDINVA

Bet Rev. Jackass and Rev. Not so Sharp blew a gasket when they heard the Mother use the word “accident”!

She could really blow their race-baiting gig saying things like this.


44 posted on 04/14/2012 10:29:11 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject at hand.)
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To: Godebert

hunted down a significantly smaller teen boy “””

Wrong!

GZ = about 5’9” Trayvon==6’2” + and over 170 #

Anybody 4++ inches taller than me, attacking me, will get a bullet, also!


45 posted on 04/14/2012 11:07:01 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SoFloFreeper

Self defense against an attacker is justified, even if the perp is black.

Travyon was the perp and George was the victim.

We are all Zimmerman. Long live Zimmerman!


46 posted on 04/14/2012 11:43:53 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: agere_contra

One of the CNN commentators referred to it as “murder”. I guess she is the one woman jury.


47 posted on 04/14/2012 4:55:34 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: SoFloFreeper
1) Where is the barf alert?

2) This woman is retarded.

48 posted on 04/14/2012 6:16:05 PM PDT by Houmatt (NObama in 2012!)
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To: hummingbird

I have no idea. Zimmermann is German for Carpenter, and is just about a common, for instance, The Zimmermann Telegram.


49 posted on 04/14/2012 7:08:21 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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