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Twinkies maker Hostess gives unions 'final' offer
AP ^ | April 14, 2012 | By DAVID KOENIG

Posted on 04/14/2012 6:35:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

The company that makes Twinkies, Wonder bread and Ding Dongs says it's making a final offer to workers to accept cost-cutting before it asks a bankruptcy court to impose the cuts.

Hostess Brands Inc. wants the Teamsters and bakers' unions to accept reduced pension benefits and changes in work rules to lower costs. It wants to outsource some delivery work.

The company said Saturday that if the unions reject the offer, it will push ahead with efforts in bankruptcy court to throw out the unions' collective bargaining agreements. A union official warned that could lead to a strike.

Hostess Brands filed for Chapter 11 protection in January, its second trip through bankruptcy court in less than a decade. A trial to decide the fate of the union contracts is scheduled to start Tuesday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; dingdongs; hostess; hostessbrands; pensions; teamsters; twinkies; unions; wonderbread
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1 posted on 04/14/2012 6:36:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

So unions are killing the twinkie. Makes me think of the movie Zombieland.


2 posted on 04/14/2012 6:39:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Oh goody. The company is severely in the red and the Union wants to strike.

Maybe Obama will bail them out?

3 posted on 04/14/2012 6:41:01 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Jet Jaguar

More union extortion brings down another company.
When will this country ever learn?

Another reason THIS administration needs to be replaced in total.....the union army of purchased voters needs to be scattered.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 6:41:01 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Jet Jaguar

Hey Hostess..

move to Texas.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: driftdiver

Yea,well the guy in Zombieland won’t be the only one who’s seriously pissed when twinkies go off the market.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 6:44:47 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: dhs12345

A Twinkie Summit???


7 posted on 04/14/2012 6:45:49 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Jet Jaguar

There are a couple of national brands pastry companies that can easily fill the void after Hostess liquidates it’s brand

Clover hill and Freshleys bakery are just two that have national presence and the ability to fill market voids ....

Tasty Kakes is another regional brand that can fill the void

The teamsters are throwing away jobs and they know it...morons all


8 posted on 04/14/2012 6:49:19 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: irishtenor
A Twinkie Summit


9 posted on 04/14/2012 6:51:32 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: GeronL

The cost to produce in Texas and transport to the Northeast is cost prohitive and pastry is date sensitive and would drive the cost up ....


10 posted on 04/14/2012 6:52:27 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: GeronL

The headquarters moved to Irving, Texas in 2009.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 6:53:37 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into!")
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To: Jet Jaguar

A great Twinkie recipe:

http://leitesculinaria.com/71100/recipes-homemade-twinkies.html


12 posted on 04/14/2012 6:54:02 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: ThomasThomas

I live in Irving, and I hadn’t heard. lol


13 posted on 04/14/2012 7:01:01 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Does anybody care? If there were ever anything that should be allowed to just disintegrate - this is it. Twinkies and all that oher junk. Ewwwwwwwww!!!


14 posted on 04/14/2012 7:01:45 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: smalltownslick

Those using the Twinkie Defense do!


15 posted on 04/14/2012 7:05:27 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Maybe GM should give away a free carton of Twinkies™ with every Volt it sells.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 7:06:22 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: smalltownslick

It’s time for Twinkie Power to die. Unions can take the credit for the death. Harvey Milk and the Twinkie Murder are witnesses. They served us well. We need now someone with whole grain, low carbs, hi fiber, eco friendly, green Earth Alfalfa Chips to make us all have more GAS than cows.


17 posted on 04/14/2012 7:06:55 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Jet Jaguar

If my brother and I don’t get our occasional Hostess cupcakes, we might go postal!


18 posted on 04/14/2012 7:07:47 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Jet Jaguar

We do not currently buy their products but if they throw the union out we will do our best to support them.


19 posted on 04/14/2012 7:10:38 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Jet Jaguar

If my brother and I don’t get our occasional Hostess cupcakes, we might go postal!


20 posted on 04/14/2012 7:11:43 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Jet Jaguar

Old Twinkies never die, they just fade away...


21 posted on 04/14/2012 7:19:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Little Debbie is smiling.....


22 posted on 04/14/2012 7:20:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Popman

23 posted on 04/14/2012 7:25:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Fade away?....heck they last forever!.....even without refrigeration!.....


24 posted on 04/14/2012 7:28:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: central_va

The Twinkies will last longer than the car.......


25 posted on 04/14/2012 7:30:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Lysandru
These will satisfy your addiction quite nicely!.......
26 posted on 04/14/2012 7:35:25 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Red Badger
At Twinkie the Kid?


27 posted on 04/14/2012 7:35:51 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Red Badger

There is a teacher who has a 30 year old Twinkie.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-08-13-twinkie_x.htm

Speckled with bits of mold, the bright yellow cake still adorns his lab, but Bennatti only vaguely remembers why he kept the Twinkie so long.

“We wanted to see what the shelf life of a Twinkie was,” said Bennatti. “The idea was to see how long it would take to go bad.”

The Twinkie stayed on top of the board through his career — joined in later years by a Fig Newton — and occasionally inspired new food experiments. Bennatti estimates the ever-yellow Twinkie is about 30-years-old.

“It’s rather brittle, but if you dusted it off, it’s probably still edible,” Bennatti said. “It never spoiled.”


28 posted on 04/14/2012 7:37:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I found a pkg of Twinkies that had fallen down behind some canned goods in the pantry, that were well over a year out of date. I opened them and they were still soft and mushy and sticky. I did not eat them but threw them away. I theorized that the sugar content is so high that they will stay preserved for a very long time since sugar is a preservative........


29 posted on 04/14/2012 7:40:19 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: smalltownslick

Michelle Obama, is that you?


30 posted on 04/14/2012 7:40:26 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: mountn man

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31 posted on 04/14/2012 7:40:34 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Jet Jaguar

It’s hard to believe that with jobs as tight as they are now,that someone would rather put a company out of business than take a pay cut.

I have a problem paying guys who do this unemployment.


32 posted on 04/14/2012 7:46:26 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jet Jaguar
Long live Moon Pies the origional Moon Pie from Chattanooga, TN :>}

Hostess Union rememinds me of the Union at a local Boeing plant near by. The Union went out on strike I think nearly a year and finally won. Yep they won. Within two years the plant was shut down and the building sold. The local Union showed them who was running that company. /sarcasm

33 posted on 04/14/2012 7:54:29 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Many non-union workers have lost jobs, lost benefits, and experienced salary reductions over the last 20 years as this nation has exported jobs. One of the consequences of the choice our nation made during the early 1990’s to open its markets to “free” competition with third world countries, while those third world countries continued to pursue mercantilist trade policies, was to ensure the standard of living of the average worker in America would decline. When even $7.50 per hour US minimum wage labor competes with 10 cent per hour Chinese labor, the lower cost labor will ultimately win or the higher cost labor will lower its “price” to compete.

The US middle class has paid dearly for our 20 year infatuation with globalism and theories of free trade while other nations pursue policies that promote their own self interests. By any measure, the US standard of living has declined for the first time in our history. We can blame unions, but non union workers have experienced the same decline or worse. Ask any textile or furniture worker in a southern right to work state about lost pennons, jobs and income. Ask the few that are left if they don’t go to work every morning wondering if the company will be announcing another downsizing or offshoring of another segment of business. Unions can’t be blamed for the shuttered factories in the southeastern US.

For those convinced that union greed is the source of this nation’s economic ills, consider that in 1965 the average CEO earned 24 times the pay of the average worker. By 2005 the average CEO earned 262 times the pay of the average worker. By 2010 it was 343 times the average worker salary. It seems those at the top may be even more greedy than the union workers and much more successful in securing disproportionate increases in compensation.

Per the US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2011 only 6.9% of private sector US workers were represented by a union while 37% of public sector workers belonged to unions. It is difficult to conceive unions are having a significant impact on either pay or job loss in the private sector given the low rate of union membership.

If one wants to truly look at greed it would likely be illuminating to examine the severance payments of American companies declaring bankruptcy over the past decade. How much more generous were the severance benefits given to the top 5% most highly compensated executives versus the rank and file workers?

We conservatives can dismiss Obama’s class warfare speeches. Unfortunately, there is enough underlying truth to what he says about the upper 1% that his message is resonating with large segments of the public. I know many middle age hourly workers and middle managers who have been kicked to the curb in their mid 50’s due to downsizings and offshoring of jobs. Some have taken new jobs at 30-40% lower pay than before, not to mention loss of benefits. Others are still looking and consuming their retirement savings to put food on the table. When these terminated workers see their former companies report record earnings and management bonus payouts, they blame a corrupt system and not Obama’s economic policies. From their perspective it is not fair for a company to pay out millions in bonuses to its CEO and executives when it is cutting workers and worker benefits.

We can talk all of the free market theories we want but people are going to vote on what they see and experience in their own lives. The reality in this country is the people at the top are taking a larger share of a shrinking pie. Many working people or unemployed middle class workers are beginning to listen and believe Obama’s class warfare rhetoric. I hope Mr. Romney has an better answer than union bashing when Obama starts talking about the jobs cut at companies owned by Bain Capital and the multimillions in bonuses he earned while at Bain.


34 posted on 04/14/2012 7:56:43 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: driftdiver
The Twinkie has made enormous contributions to science. It must be saved!

Thirty Year Old Twinkie Points Way to Preserving Bodies

35 posted on 04/14/2012 8:09:18 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I could go for a pink Snowball right now.


36 posted on 04/14/2012 8:16:19 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Soul of the South
We conservatives...

LOL! You are about as conservative as Andy Stern or any other union hack.

37 posted on 04/14/2012 8:16:33 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Islander7

38 posted on 04/14/2012 8:19:43 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1180 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: dhs12345

Eventually cancer kills the host.


39 posted on 04/14/2012 8:28:22 PM PDT by motor_racer (Pete, do you ever get tired, of the driving?)
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To: neocon1984

What did I say that is not true?


40 posted on 04/14/2012 8:37:08 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Soul of the South

There are Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics... and you seem to be unable to figure out which is which


41 posted on 04/14/2012 8:46:43 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: Soul of the South

“Per the US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2011 only 6.9% of private sector US workers were represented by a union while 37% of public sector workers belonged to unions.”

Yeah....but how many of the 6.9% actually could be exported due to union influence? Labor has been as much of the downfall of the economy as the crooked politicians. I”d slit my grandmother’s throat before I’d join a union or vote for a democRAT!
.


42 posted on 04/14/2012 8:47:08 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: Jet Jaguar
These are tough times for twinkies.

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43 posted on 04/14/2012 8:52:20 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Jet Jaguar

We’ve always got Little Debby. By they way, I heard from a reliable source that the owner of Little Debby is/was a health nut and would eat his own product.


44 posted on 04/14/2012 9:46:06 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Popman

They will contract with regional bakeries to make their
products


45 posted on 04/14/2012 10:20:54 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: smalltownslick
If there were ever anything that should be allowed to just disintegrate - this is it. and all that other junk...

So was GM and O got together a stimulus to buy GM. Think of all the union jobs that could be saved.

Either that our he could just do it with an EO. Then he saves two dem base groups... a union and.. well.. twinkies!
46 posted on 04/14/2012 11:16:23 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

One day, archaeologists will reconstruct our civilization from Twinkies.


47 posted on 04/14/2012 11:57:42 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Soul of the South
Do a little math.

Look up how much the CEO of Walmart makes, then look up how many employees Walmart has. Divide employees into CEO pay and see what you get.

The CEOs pay is negligible on making a dent in the average Walmart employees life.

Next, look up the Forbes top 500 CEOs pay, then divide it by WALMARTS employees (its too hard to figure how many employees the top 500 have.)

Next, look up the Forbes top 400 richest Americans and add up all their estimated wealth. How does it compare with this years deficit?

The point being, that for ALL the focus on the evil rich people, They don't have or make enough to truly influence everybody elses life, if all their money were simply given to everybody else.

48 posted on 04/15/2012 1:15:23 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Soul of the South
I agree with a lot of what you've posted there, but there's another angle to this whole issue that doesn't get a lot of attention. I've long contended that the biggest factor in the loss of American jobs to foreign competition isn't "free trade," and it isn't "corporate greed." It's actually the spending habits of the U.S. consumer, who exerts tremendous downward pressure on prices of all kinds of products and services.

This became very clear to me a few years ago during a strike by workers at one of the major grocery store chains in California. I read an article about the strike in one of the national financial magazines, and was surprised at how candid the workers on the picket line were. The vast majority of them admitted that they do their grocery shopping at Wal-Mart ... a major retail chain that has taken a big chunk out of the market share of traditional retail chains and employs non-union labor to keep their costs low.

This goes back to a statement that I've made for a long time about most issues related to U.S. labor. The heart of the problem, as I see it, is that there is a huge gap between what a typical American charges for his labor and what he's willing to pay someone else to do the same job. Is there any less "greed" in that than you see in corporate boardrooms all across this country? I don't think so.

I don't know what the solution is, but it is critical for us to keep in mind that the problem isn't a simple one.

49 posted on 04/15/2012 4:39:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Soul of the South
For those convinced that union greed is the source of this nation’s economic ills, consider that in 1965 the average CEO earned 24 times the pay of the average worker. By 2005 the average CEO earned 262 times the pay of the average worker. By 2010 it was 343 times the average worker salary. It seems those at the top may be even more greedy than the union workers and much more successful in securing disproportionate increases in compensation.

I wonder what comparison could be made from two different angles: (1) the comparison of CEO pay to total company compensation (rather than comparing a single CEO with enormous responsibilities with a single employee with much more limited responsibilities); and (2) the ratio of CEO pay to business volume.

Item (2) is an interesting point because it goes to one of the things that is often overlooked in these comparisons from one generation to the next -- namely, the fact that today's companies are much bigger and do far more business than their predecessors.

50 posted on 04/15/2012 4:43:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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