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Mitt Romney: Supports Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants (Sep 6, 2011)
YouTube.com ^ | Sep 6, 2011 | Mitt Romney

Posted on 04/15/2012 4:11:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

MITT ROMNEY: "But my view is that those 12 million who have come here illegally should be given the opportunity to sign up to stay here..."

So much for another lie by Romney that he is the toughest on Illegals


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; elections; illegaimmigration; illegalimmigration; romney
And the Un-Masking of Mitt Romney, the left-wing, Progressive Liberal, continues . . .
"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton

1 posted on 04/15/2012 4:11:29 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
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2 posted on 04/15/2012 4:13:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SoConPubbie
Oh, but that was months ago! You're not going to try to hold a feller to what he said months ago, are you?

I hope no sarcasm tag is needed...Bump this sucker to The Top.

3 posted on 04/15/2012 4:23:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SoConPubbie

I can’t not find one single issue on which he is an actual conservative.


4 posted on 04/15/2012 4:32:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SoConPubbie

Sept 6 2011? Really?? Amazing!!!

Tim Russert died June 13, 2008.


5 posted on 04/15/2012 4:36:21 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: GeronL

Yep. Compromising on one or two minor ideological issues is one thing but a vote for Romney means tossing them all overboard.


6 posted on 04/15/2012 4:36:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, Mitt’s Grandfather got into the USA on some kind of Amnesty program, and nine of his wives. The Mormon Population in Casas Grande Chichuahua thought it safe to move back to Utah.


7 posted on 04/15/2012 4:38:40 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: SoConPubbie

***
ROMNEY'S GAY AGENDA
State sponsored push of the homosexual agenda onto children:

*****

"My views are progressive." - Mitt Romney

MORE OF LIBERAL MITT'S RECORD:
See Romney's Press Release After Signing A Permanent Ban On Assault Weapons


8 posted on 04/15/2012 4:38:50 PM PDT by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: Hugin

shhhhh.


9 posted on 04/15/2012 4:38:50 PM PDT by KSanders (Hope and Change is now Class and Gender warfare)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly.

We’re not asking for conservative “purity”, but Romney is pure... LIBERAL


10 posted on 04/15/2012 4:44:58 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Hugin

The video was posted to youtube in 2011. The interview was conducted in 2007 while Romney was still flop-flopping and searching for the proper lie to cover up his pro-amnesty record. The man lies over and over and parses all his past lies trying to paper over his past positions and lies.


11 posted on 04/15/2012 4:47:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Lady4Liberty

BUMP


12 posted on 04/15/2012 4:49:15 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: KSanders; Hugin; SoConPubbie

The video was posted to youtube in 2011. The interview was conducted in 2007 while Romney was still flop-flopping, evolving and searching for the proper lie to cover up his pro-amnesty record. The man lies over and over and parses all his past lies trying to paper over his past positions and lies.


13 posted on 04/15/2012 4:49:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: SoConPubbie
No doubt Romney is trying to split the baby in this interview. He has changed his stance since then. Newt supports amnesty overtly today.

The position should be no amnesty, which should be defined as not allowing those who entered illegally to stay and work here. No registration or getting to the back of the line on an earned path to citizenship. The line begins back in their home country.

This interview was took place on December 16, 2007.

14 posted on 04/15/2012 4:56:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SoConPubbie
Say, why don't you post a thread like this for a change, you win hearts and minds by advancing, giving optimism, something to root FOR, not demonizing:

http://www.newt.org/2012/04/13/newt-right-to-bear-arms-is-a-human-right/

15 posted on 04/15/2012 5:03:26 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: SoConPubbie

At least by the time some people get tired of ranting and decide to work on making the best of a somewhat repulsive situation; there will be no way Obama can go to the left of Romney and still have an election.

The left didn’t get here in one election. We have helped for years by neglecting our representatives. Start at your local elections and continue to change the environment. It took the left over 1000 years to own the media and the schools, but now our backs are against the wall and one election won’t fix it.


16 posted on 04/15/2012 5:03:33 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: SoConPubbie
One and two and three..barf

17 posted on 04/15/2012 5:29:37 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: kabar

“Newt supports amnesty overtly today.”

Oh, yeah? Where on Newt.org does it say he supports “overt amnesty”?


18 posted on 04/15/2012 5:45:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: cripplecreek
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19 posted on 04/15/2012 6:18:41 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: SoConPubbie

If a second Republican administration brings about another amnesty for illegal immigrants, then the Republicans deserve their fate: being out-voted into oblivion by a population used to getting government handouts and who have no history of being concerned about our laws.


20 posted on 04/15/2012 6:38:11 PM PDT by Rybashka
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To: SoConPubbie

Of course he does.

It’s a great day to be a liberal. :)


21 posted on 04/15/2012 6:47:20 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Say, why don't you post a thread like this for a change, you win hearts and minds by advancing, giving optimism, something to root FOR, not demonizing:

Because that's not what is needed with all the weak-kneed and compromising conservatives around here.

The only thing that is going to work is the could bucket of cold water in the face called the truth.

So I'm posting the unvarnished record of Mitt Romney, because that evil little man continually lies about his record and his issue positions.

Those that are asleep, ignorant (where Romney is concerned), but sincere conservatives are going to come roaring back to life.

Those that were knowledgeable about Romney but wavering because of the hyperbole and exaggerations of the Romney pimps where Obama is concerned may be shamed into coming back to the light(conservatism) and realizing that Romney is a compulsive liar who cannot be trusted in anything he says and therefore his record is the only thing he can be judged by.

And then there are those who will be badgered by the left-wing MittBots into voting for Romney by excessive hyperbole (the world will end tomorrow) and exaggeration (Obama is the anti-christ). These nobody can save.

There is a purpose here, it is not to annoy people, but to wake them up or get them to hold the line where conservatism is concerned.

I was for Sarah steadfastly, I then chose Cain, then I chose Newt, somewhat reluctantly, but I became firm in that support as I listened more and more. I could have voted for Santorum, and as a last resort, Paul.

But mark this down: NO SINCERE CONSERVATIVE SHOULD EVER BE VOTING FOR LYING, LEFT-WING, PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL AND THAT IS WHAT MITT ROMNEY IS.
22 posted on 04/15/2012 7:18:41 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Why exactly is he winning primaries?


23 posted on 04/15/2012 9:04:26 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Why exactly is he winning primaries?

If he is the clear favorite of the GOP, why is he only averaging 41% of the total vote, why does 59% of the GOP want nothing to do with him?

Furthermore, he uses false advertising about his false positions on the issues.

ANd he uses character assasination, bearing false witness against the actual conservatives in the race with millions of dollars of false adds.

Add in the unstated SuperPac of FauxNews who have been in the tank for Romney and also took place in the false attacks against both Newt and Rick and it's a wonder he isn't pulling more than 41%.

But his problem is, the base detests him and they're more educated than he hoped they'd be about his Lying, Left-wing, Progressive Liberal record.
24 posted on 04/15/2012 9:12:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SatinDoll
Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay and work here is amnesty. We must not only prevent the Democrats and some moderate Republicans from hijacking the meaning of the word amnesty, but the public must be made aware about the true impact of an amnesty.

The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

Newt supports amnesty no matter how Orwellian his use of language is. He is rewarding people who broke our laws by not only entering illegally, but working illegally, committing ID theft, evading taxes, etc. These are not the people who should have their status legalized and allowed to remain in this country. It is not about citizenship, but giving criminals the object of their crime, i.e., to stay and work here.

We had a "one time" amnesty 26 years ago. It doesn't work. And we have something called the Rule of Law. There are billions of people who would love to come here and pay $5,000 to stay and work here. When you reward something, you get more of it.

10 Steps to a Legal Nation

6. Create a path to earned legality for some of the millions of people who are here outside the law.

There are currently anywhere from 8 to 12 million people living in the United States who entered illegally.

These people range from day laborers who arrived recently, to grandparents who have been paying taxes, supporting their families and obeying the law for decades.

We need a system that enforces the rule of law, ensures that those who broke the law pay a stiff penalty, but also acknowledges that it is neither optimal nor feasible nor humane to deport every single illegal immigrant.

We need a path to legality, but not citizenship, for some of these individuals who have deep ties to America, including family, church and community ties. We also need a path to swift but dignified repatriation for those who are transient and have no roots in America.

We need a process that can distinguish at the human level.

Congress must charge the Department of Justice to establish a “citizens’ review” process for those here outside the law. It would establish committees to process these cases in individual communities and determine who will continue on this path to legality, and who will be sent home. Congress must define understandable, clear, objective legal standards that will be applied equally during this process. While this process is ongoing, those here outside the law will be granted Temporary Legal Status for a certain, limited period of time until all have had the opportunity to apply and appear in front of committees.

Applicants must first pass a criminal background check, and then the local committees will assess applications based on family and community ties, and ability to support oneself via employment without the assistance of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other entitlement programs.

The government will rigorously enforce a requirement that all individuals seeking this path to legality must be able to prove that they can independently pay for private health insurance. If an individual cannot prove this, they will lose the ability to stay in the United States.

Furthermore, proficiency in English within a certain number of years, similar to the requirement for naturalization, will be required for anyone who seeks continued legal status in the United States.

Once an applicant has been granted the right to obtain legal status, he or she will have to pay a penalty of at least $5,000.

Moving forward, those who receive this status will have to prove on a regular basis that they can support themselves without entitlement programs and pay for health insurance or else risk the ability to stay in the United States.

25 posted on 04/15/2012 10:22:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Thank you.

Here is the problem: there already exists laws which legally prevent ALL illegal aliens from being thrown back over the border:

“We need a path to legality, but not citizenship, for some of these individuals who have deep ties to America, including family, church and community ties...”

There exist illegal aliens who have been here decades and married U.S. citizens, produced children and grandchildren who are U.S. citizens, and because of already existing laws given preferential treatment by INS. These illegal aliens may be deported but only temporarily before being allowed to return. That’s the law when an alien has close family relatives who are citizens.

He’s not pro amnesty; he is stating legal reality that for some illegal aliens permanent deportation just isn’t going to happen.

However: “...We also need a path to swift but dignified repatriation for those who are transient and have no roots in America.”

If a person is an illegal alien married to another illegal alien they will be deported. Children, even if born in the U.S. will go with parents BECAUSE the Clinton Administration set the precedent when they sent Elian Gonzalez back to Cuba with his father - the U.S. keeps families together.

These laws already exist, kabar. Newt Gingrich will have them enforced once again, something the last four Presidents did not do at all.

To change these laws, Congress must act.


26 posted on 04/15/2012 10:53:12 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SoConPubbie

With Rick Santorum’s recent departure from the 2012 presidential sweepstakes, the Republican establishment — aided and abetted by self-identified “conservative” voters — has just ensured the re-election of Barack Obama.


That’s a view widely held by real conservatives, not just my own view.

The GOP now fields one of the most disliked, ruthlessly ambitious, untruthful, problematic candidates for president in recent memory. Never before in modern history has a Republican presidential candidate been so overtly manipulative of the political process, or of the public mind, than Mitt Romney. (You’d have to revisit Obama’s media-driven, illusion-based 2008 Democratic candidacy to see something comparable). As a result, rarely has the Republican base been left with so unpopular a choice.


http://www.renewamerica.com/romney_mccain.htm

This is a great article.


27 posted on 04/15/2012 11:43:40 PM PDT by matthew fuller (The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Is the idea here to suppress turnout so that Obama is re-elected, then dance around in self-congratulatory glee, reveling in your own brilliance?

I was for Palin, then Bachmann, then Perry, then Cain, then Santorum. So we end up with Romney. Please don’t tell me there is no difference in who Romney & Obama would nominate for SCOTUS.


28 posted on 04/16/2012 12:08:55 AM PDT by Da Mav
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To: SatinDoll
There exist illegal aliens who have been here decades and married U.S. citizens, produced children and grandchildren who are U.S. citizens, and because of already existing laws given preferential treatment by INS. These illegal aliens may be deported but only temporarily before being allowed to return. That’s the law when an alien has close family relatives who are citizens.

I am very aware of the law. Yes, if an illegal alien is married to an American, that person can eventually reenter the country once his spouse applies for sponsorship. But this will involve investigating the individual with a background check and physical. There are over 2 million "criminal" aliens in this country. And the vast majority of illegals, 12 to 20 million of them, are not married to amcits. So let's adhere to the rule of law and process people according to it.

Remember that we had an amnesty 26 years ago. The supporters of that amnesty said it would be one time and there would never be another one. The USG estimated that 1 million would apply, but the real number turned out to be 2.7 million. We now have 12 to 20 million illegals not counting the 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year.

He’s not pro amnesty; he is stating legal reality that for some illegal aliens permanent deportation just isn’t going to happen.

The logic of that is nonsense. We are not going to catch every murderer, but that doesn't mean we accept the fact that some murderers will escape justice. The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Arizona proving that it does.

If a person is an illegal alien married to another illegal alien they will be deported. Children, even if born in the U.S. will go with parents BECAUSE the Clinton Administration set the precedent when they sent Elian Gonzalez back to Cuba with his father - the U.S. keeps families together.

Wrong. Parents can allow their children 18 and under to remain in the US if they find an appropriate guardian to be responsibile for the children. Once the children reach 21, they can sponsor their parents to enter the US legally under chain migration, i.e., family reunification. Failing to find a guardian will mean that the children will be deported with the family, but they remain US citizens.

These laws already exist, kabar. Newt Gingrich will have them enforced once again, something the last four Presidents did not do at all. To change these laws, Congress must act.

We just need to enforce our existing laws and illegal immigration will decrease significantly and many will self-deport. Conferring rights and privileges upon illegal aliens has a corrosive effect on the Rule of Law, the very foundation of our Republic. It is also a slap in the face to legal immigrants who have followed the rules and obeyed the laws. There are millions of immigrants waiting their turn overseas to enter the U.S. legally. They have completed all of the paperwork including background investigations and physicals. Many have been waiting for years to enter depending on which immigration category they are in. Allowing those who entered illegally and have placed down "deep roots" to have their status legalized is just not fair and it sends the wrong signal to the hundreds of millions of people wishing to come here.

29 posted on 04/16/2012 7:23:28 AM PDT by kabar
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30 posted on 04/16/2012 8:17:25 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Da Mav
Is the idea here to suppress turnout so that Obama is re-elected, then dance around in self-congratulatory glee, reveling in your own brilliance?

What's wrong, does the truth about your boy bother you?

You support him, you own him AND his record.


What part of the following statement by Jim Robinson don't you understand?


A reminder for those who are not receiving the message:

Romney is a pathological compulsive liar. Lie after lie papered over with more lies. Doesn’t even flinch when caught in bald faced lies, simply tells another big whopper to cover up or dodge the issue. Funny thing, the man actually seems to believe his own latest lies and simply ignores the glaring record of his past actions/lies. And you have true blue establishment elite RINO Republicans like Karl Rove enabling and backing up his lies. Their motivation is simply to hang on to power (and riches) any way they can.

I’ve stated many times since Romney started running for the presidency way back when that I’d never vote for him and I will not. He cannot lie his way out of his decades long record of support for abortion, Roe v Wade, planned parenthood, gay rights, gun control, global warming, amnesty, liberal judges, big government, compulsory or socialized health care (RomneyCommieCare), mandates, Keynesian economics, support and approval of TARP, bailouts, stimulus packages, i.e, every damn liberal progressive issue that comes down the pike.

C’mon. These are the reasons the tea party sprang up and the reasons he and Rove loathe the tea party and our tea party conservative candidates. Romney famously expressed his loathing for Reagan-Bush conservatism several years ago when he was trying to run to the left of Ted Kennedy and now he’s cloaking himself in Reagan conservatism, knowing full well that it’s a lie, but he knows it’s the only way he can possibly win, er buy the Republican nomination.

Screw Romney!! I absolutely will not support or vote for a proven compulsive liar with a known record of abortion and big government socialism, liberal appointments, etc. He still lies about RomneyCommieCare today. Calls it a “conservative solution.” Get real!!

Listen to what Ronald Reagan had to say about the elites pushing socialism on America via compulsory health insurance:

Ronald Reagan speaks out against RomneyCommieCare

There will be no campaign for this Massachusetts liberal liar on FR!!
31 posted on 04/16/2012 9:10:13 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: kabar

I know one thing about our situation: there is no way in Hell you’re going to get what you want except through laws passed by Congress.

Okay, you don’t trust Gingrich to enforce the laws as they exist. As President, Newt will not make laws. He know how our government should function while most in Congress do not.

Your choice then is to not vote, OR between Obama, a communist, and Romney, a fascist. Neither gives a damn about the U.S.Constitution, the law, or the rights of citizens. To vote for someone else after the nominating convention is to give the election to the communists.


32 posted on 04/16/2012 12:49:12 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll
I will vote for anybody but Obama. The survival of our nation is at stake.

Congress doesn't have to pass any more immigration laws. Enforcing the existing laws will go a long way to solving the illegal immigration problem. Here is the way our immigration problem, legal and illegal, needs to be addressed:

Republicans need to provide the American people with their own comprehensive immigration reform plan, i.e., give people a reason to vote FOR something rather than just attack the other side’s proposals. Such a plan should contain the following elements:

 Formulate a merit based immigration system that brings in the skills and talents to keep us competitive in the global economy;

 Reduce immigration levels based on need more closely approximating 300,000 a year;

 Eliminate extended chain migration, i.e., family reunification, limiting it to the nuclear family,

 Secure the border;

 Enforce existing immigration laws to reduce the current illegal alien population and limit future illegal immigration, i.e., attrition thru enforcement. Enforcement would include: (1) ending the job magnet; (2) increasing coordination at the federal level by eliminating barriers to information sharing among agencies; (3) leveraging state and local enforcement resources; (4) fully implementing the US-VISIT Program to track and deport visa overstays; and (5) make mandatory and improve such programs as E-Verify and 287 [g] authority to assist employers and law enforcement in identifying illegal aliens;

 Eliminate birthright citizenship and the visa lottery program;

 Ensure that anyone who enters this nation illegally is not rewarded by being permitted to stay and work here; i.e., no amnesty;

 Streamline the processing and adjudication of immigration cases;

 Promote pro-immigrant measures that help newcomers assimilate and embrace the values and principles of our Founders and the Constitution.

33 posted on 04/16/2012 2:13:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I agree you with you 100%.


34 posted on 04/16/2012 2:24:53 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SoConPubbie

If you want to turn FR into a campaign to re-elect Obama by trashing his opposition and working yourself into a tizzy by blasting and insulting anyone who disagrees it’s kind of sad but not my problem. I’m certain that Jim Robinson can speak and act for himself and until he boots me off I intend to participate and support FR as I have in my own modest way for 9+ years or so.

I was never for Romney but given the alternative of four more years (and two-three SCOTUS nominations) I’ll take him over Obama. That’s hardly ‘conducting a campaign’ for Romney.

I will be more than happy to rake Romney over the coals once the threat of a second Obama term is removed.


35 posted on 04/16/2012 10:10:52 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: SoConPubbie

If you want to turn FR into a campaign to re-elect Obama by trashing his opposition and working yourself into a tizzy by blasting and insulting anyone who disagrees it’s kind of sad but not my problem. I’m certain that Jim Robinson can speak and act for himself and until he boots me off I intend to participate and support FR as I have in my own modest way for 9+ years or so.

I was never for Romney but given the alternative of four more years (and two-three SCOTUS nominations) I’ll take him over Obama. That’s hardly ‘conducting a campaign’ for Romney.

I will be more than happy to rake Romney over the coals once the threat of a second Obama term is removed.


36 posted on 04/16/2012 10:11:12 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Da Mav
Is the idea here to suppress turnout so that Obama is re-elected, then dance around in self-congratulatory glee, reveling in your own brilliance?

Listen, that lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal Mitt Romney, is your candidate. He will never be mine.

I don't vote for lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberals even if presented when presented with propaganda that the world is going to end tomorrow if I don't vote for him.

I'll leave that up to you Party-over-Principle types.

"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton


37 posted on 04/27/2012 1:25:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Listen, that lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal Barrack Obama, is your candidate. He will never be mine.

I don’t vote for lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberals even if presented when presented with propaganda that the world is going to end tomorrow if I don’t vote for him.

I’ll leave that up to you trash-anyone-running-against Obama types.


38 posted on 04/28/2012 2:58:38 AM PDT by Da Mav
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