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There Is Still Time (or Don't Let Newt Down)
Vanity | April 15, 2012 | True Believer Forever

Posted on 04/15/2012 8:39:45 PM PDT by true believer forever

While everyone is in the weeds counting delegates and wondering who Santorum will endorse (it will be Romney), few people are talking about the degree to which the GOP will be emboldened if Romney gets the nomination. It will be a sign to them they can get the evangelical, social and fiscal conservatives to fall in line, all they have to do is wait them out.

A few days ago, Mark Levin said he was disgusted with the Republican establishment, right after he said, 'we conservatives have to work together to pull out a victory for Mitt Romney’, just one of the presumed conservatives who have fallen in line with the GOP this past week. Establishment Republicans now know without a doubt that the base, its leaders and luminaries, can get to the point of total disgust with the GOP, and they will still fall in line.

Last cycle, Huckabee helped split the conservative vote, and make a path for the squishy one. This time it's Romney in the it’s my turn circle… Next year it will be Santorum. And Santorum will be sufficiently and properly neutered if he gets his turn next, count on it.

And where is last cycle’s Santorum, Mike Huckabee, who played the evangelicals big time in 2008, right now? Hosting a radio show competing with Rush.

We are at the breach, and there is still time, though barely. If people like Levin, DeMint, Sarah, etc., would jump in now – and they won’t – grab this moment, secure it and swing it back full bore at the GOP, the King Georgers would get a message loud and clear, they can't take the base for granted. And maybe the next time they think about trying their Karl Rove Gambit, they won't.

We can't look for help or expect anyone with power to give us a hand. We can either stand up and get in the battle, or hand the GOP another reward, a compliant conservative base, whom the GOP already despises and take for granted.

"The only thing holding us back right now is intimidation over the giants we face. They are not bigger than we are if we stand together." ~ butterdezillion

TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: georgia; gop; newt; newtgingrich; primary
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To: JediJones

You have serious problems if you think this was a good batch of candidates. They weren’t.

61 posted on 04/15/2012 11:04:50 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: true believer forever
Cain, one of Newt's endorsers has said he would support Romney...

That was overhyped by another false "Politicrap" headline. He didn't say anything different than Palin or Newt himself has said about supporting the eventual nominee.

62 posted on 04/15/2012 11:24:22 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: true believer forever

With Rick Santorum’s recent departure from the 2012 presidential sweepstakes, the Republican establishment — aided and abetted by self-identified “conservative” voters — has just ensured the re-election of Barack Obama.

That’s a view widely held by real conservatives, not just my own view.

The GOP now fields one of the most disliked, ruthlessly ambitious, untruthful, problematic candidates for president in recent memory. Never before in modern history has a Republican presidential candidate been so overtly manipulative of the political process, or of the public mind, than Mitt Romney. (You’d have to revisit Obama’s media-driven, illusion-based 2008 Democratic candidacy to see something comparable). As a result, rarely has the Republican base been left with so unpopular a choice.

63 posted on 04/16/2012 12:12:41 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro- FOR LIFE!.)
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To: true believer forever
I wonder if Perry and Newt will be together today in Texas.

Newt Gingrich to hold forum in Richardson [Texas this Monday] “Former House Speaker and Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich is scheduled to hold a public forum Monday in Richardson.

The meeting is set for 4 p.m. at Pappasito's Cantina, 723 Central Expressway. Space is limited and the audience will be part of a 30-mintue question and answer period.”……..

Three Years After Tea Party Rallies, Perry Presses On [skinning the budget monster - again] .........."The rallies have subsided, and the ideas of the Taxed Enough Already folks have been subsumed into the mainstream Republican Party. Perry is still working it, though. On Monday, he will unveil a financial pledge and challenge candidates in Texas to sign on, agreeing to oppose new taxes and tax increases, to cut "duplicative" programs and agencies in state government, and to push budget ideas that he has been touting for years, like requiring lawmakers to spend state revenue collected for specific programs on those programs, instead of diverting the money to other uses...........magine how it might work for someone with the power of public office. Perry can support or oppose Republicans in elections — a strong card to play with just six weeks left before the primaries. After the general election, lawmakers will walk into a legislative session where the guy with the pledges has veto power over their bills.".....

64 posted on 04/16/2012 12:39:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: true believer forever

Great post!

65 posted on 04/16/2012 2:47:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: chris37

The “base” isn’t determining this, and in fact, voter turn out in the primaries has been very poor. In some states, as we recall, Newt wasn’t even on the ballot. This was thanks to Romney’s money, which he had been busy spending lavishly since 2008, pretty much salting the earth for other candidates: look at all the endorsements he reaped from people to whom he had earlier given the odd $30,000 or so for their campaigns (I’m thinking of Marco Rubio).

Then of course, there was the press, which ridiculed him virtually from the start (and there’s nothing worse than ridicule).

Finally, don’t overlook the massive opposition to Newt among the pundits and opinion-makers of the base, people such as Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, etc. It’s puzzling, and I honestly don’t understand their opposition to him, but that’s how it was.

So what’s remarkable is actually that he’s still standing and that he’s doing as well as he is.

66 posted on 04/16/2012 3:02:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: butterdezillion

“But he can’t threaten us little people. We will always be the fish bone that has the last laugh by getting stuck in his craw. He can’t threaten or bribe us all, and we are the ones who vote.”

Right. Soros will never be able to get to us. And his time on earth will soon come to an end.

67 posted on 04/16/2012 4:04:35 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: Ingtar

Santorum is a politician. He will do whatever he feels is best for his future career as a talking head/2016 candidate.

68 posted on 04/16/2012 4:14:49 AM PDT by visualops (
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To: true believer forever

I really didn’t want any of the GOP’s current candidates, but I listened to Newt’s NRA speech over the weekend and I think I might actually vote for him. I’m not thrilled with Newt, but there’s no way I’m voting for Romney.

69 posted on 04/16/2012 4:48:38 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: hosepipe

Apparently to have a new conservative party, we need to destroy the GOP, unless Newt pulls off the political turnaround of the Century.

70 posted on 04/16/2012 5:13:06 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....
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To: true believer forever

Wow. That was really well-stated. And the very heart and center of where we’re at right now.

People NEED to know that Soros’ threats have been running the show since the run on the bank in Sept of 2008. That’s why both John Boehner and Mark Levin are spineless right now. It explains everything we see. I believe that run on the bank was a communist-Islamist alliance headed by George Soros, which deliberately made that run in order to get Obama elected - made necessary because Palin as VP had energized the conservative base and brought McCain into the lead. Having shown that alliance’s ability to commit profound economic terrorism on even an economy as large as ours, Soros had the weapon he needed in order to get the media companies to fear another run on the bank and thus tell their on-air personalities they would be fired and possibly killed if they allowed Obama’s eligibility problem to be exposed - rather than simply reporting to Bush’s DOJ Soros’ direct threats against them. (I have good reasons to believe this happened but won’t go into it now because it’s too much).

From that point on, Soros has been running the show. The only reason Fox or any of the talk radio shows have any conservative stuff at all is to hide that Soros took control. Just like Saddam needed the supposed integrity of CNN in order to make his own propaganda (parrotted by CNN) seem more credible - Soros needed the on-air entities to appear to not be hostage. To say, “My non-captors are treating me well...”

That the media companies were threatened has been verified by Mike Zullo, lead investigator of Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse. And the threat was serious - since staffers who had been threatened by their own company quit their jobs and/or left the country to try to stay safe. The producer of “We Will Not Be Silenced” has said Hillary supporters faced death threats, that Bill and Hillary were silenced on the eligibility issue by the strategically-timed assassination of a close friend, and the Hillary supporters were kept from presenting a petition at the DNC convention by the death of the person who had just days earlier agreed to present the petition. So we’re talking serious criminal activity. And I don’t for one moment believe it to be “coincidence” that Andrew Breitbart hit the ground dead just 4-5 hours after hearing Arpaio’s evidence and saying it was good AND Rush Limbaugh received a bomb scare - both on the very day that Arpaio presented probable cause for forgery and fraud involving Obama’s BC and draft registration.

So there is no question that Soros is dictating what these people say. And it is no secret that the communists have been engaging in demoralization techniques for decades. Yuri Bezmenov, former KGB agent, has revealed how that is done and it’s exactly what we have here with the “conservatives” betraying us and leaving us feeling isolated, dejected, and hopeless right when we VERY MUCH CAN turn this thing around if we suck it up and charge forward.

At any time Soros could have told Levin he had to support Romney. The fact that he has done it now says that Soros knows we can do this. Like I said before, we are receiving flak because we are over the target. We are so over the target that Soros has taken ALL the conservatives hostage in order to shut us up.

Levin’s comments should galvanize us. Soros knows he’s in a serious fight.

71 posted on 04/16/2012 5:39:51 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: chris37

I don’t think Obama can control our military, if things get as bad as you are suggesting.

72 posted on 04/16/2012 5:44:46 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: chris37

The base was split between him and Santorum. This is the first point at which it’s actually conservative v LIBERAL rather than conservative v conservative.

As a case in point, I have been agnostic between the two until now. I hadn’t even entered the fray between those 2. Don’t count out people like me who were WAITING to see who to support most effectively.

73 posted on 04/16/2012 5:45:58 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: chris37

Something else to think about. Communism has taken hold in countries, many times in the past.

But it has never done what it’s trying to do in our country. Everything is new ground for them, in this attempt to destroy us. They have never successfully overthrown a nation like the United States.

I believe that in the end, they won’t be able to overcome the people or the military.

74 posted on 04/16/2012 5:50:19 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: true believer forever

I know that what I said probably sounds crazy to somebody who hasn’t followed the particular claims I’ve made. Hitler’s propaganda minister, Josef Goebbels, said that people will believe a big lie before a little one, and I now know part of that is because people can’t wrap their minds around something so big. There’s so much documentation that would have to prove something big, and people don’t have the attention span for it. Soros knows that too, which is why he shells this country with one mega-bomb after another. By the time the truth gets its shoes tied on one big coup attempt, the lie has already traveled around the world and been heard by the people who let the media do all their thinking, and Soros has already done another coup that’s even worse. This is a deliberate shelling to keep the general public from accurately processing anything - because you simply can’t do that in 30-second sound bytes each hour during the work day, which may be the max that most people get.


Regarding Soros and a communist-Islamist alliance working together to make the Sept 2008 run on the bank - I’ve got a bunch of reasons I suspected this, and it turns out I’ve got good company. Read the thread at

Regarding Soros’ threats on the media, a starting place (with lots more links) is at

Regarding Soros’ threats on the Hillary supporters: Also see thread and source at

75 posted on 04/16/2012 8:00:45 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: livius

Listen, if the base wanted to turn out, then it could have turned out. No one is forcing anyone to stay home.

If he wasn’t on the ballot, it’s because he failed to get on the ballot. If you want to win the nomination for president, you have to win primaries and in order to do that, you have to be on the ballot. He is smart enough to know that.

Had Newt, Perry, Santorum et al been on the ballot, I do no think they would have been removed from the ballot, so they all need to look at themselves on that one.

The press is going to ridicule anyone that isn’t a communist and that is all there is to it.

I’ve never heard Rush say anything particualry harsh against Newt or anyone else for that matter. He isn’t supporting anyone in this primary and he has stated so numerous times. Ann Coulter is a babbling idiot, and personally I don’t think anyone should listen to her.

I will agree that it is remarkable that he hasn’t dropped yet, but it’s kinda pointless now, and a lot of people are saying that he appears arrogant in not dropping out, but I don’t know.

I voted for Newt, but I am also a realist. He failed in convincing enough people that he should be a leader, and as a result, he is not likely to be a leader. There is no point in making excuses for him, he failed to connect thus he was passed over, and that is the history of this.

76 posted on 04/16/2012 8:49:08 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: butterdezillion

Yep it was split, and that was done on purpose I believe. Split the conservative vote 4 ways, then there is the nut Ron Paul who will hopefully run again when he is 82 /s, and he never gets anything. The rest goes to Romney, and he gets the nod.

I don’t have any doubt this was done on purpose by the GOP, because the only thing the GOP can engineer a defeat on is itself, and it has done exactly that.

77 posted on 04/16/2012 8:55:40 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I really hope you are right.

Because they will never stop trying.

And almost no one on our side is even aware of what’s going on.

Either that or they do not care.

78 posted on 04/16/2012 8:57:05 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Candor7

Then you are no conservative.

79 posted on 04/16/2012 8:59:33 AM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: Candor7

Then you are no conservative.

80 posted on 04/16/2012 8:59:43 AM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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