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Many Conservatives Were Shocked By Ann Coulter
RightWingNews.com ^ | 7 Feb 2012 | Steve Baldwin

Posted on 04/16/2012 8:50:09 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

I was going to blog about Romney’s recent flip-flops on the minimum wage issue and bilingual education – flip-flop #36 and #37, but when I saw Ann Coulter’s recent column praising RomneyCare, I have to admit, I just lost it. She called RomneyCare “free-market” and claims it’s a “conservative” approach to health care. Apparently, the individual mandate is something we conservatives should all run out into the streets and start celebrating. I was shocked.

One of her arguments seems to be that a number of conservative politicians and the Heritage Foundation originally supported RomneyCare and therefore, that makes it conservative. While that be true, that doesn’t make it conservative. A few years back I surveyed all the conservative think tanks and free market groups that work on health care and aside from Heritage, every one of them condemned RomneyCare, including the Beacon Hill Institute, Massachusett’s leading free market think tank.

I was in attendance when the Heritage Foundation sent a representative to Grover’s Norquist’s weekly Wednesday meeting downtown D.C. and addressed over 60 free market leaders about the virtues of Romneycare. Let me assure everyone, the presentation was not well received. Contrary to what Coulter implies, the vast majority of free market thinkers and groups have opposed RomneyCare from the beginning.

Moreover, RomneyCare has been a disaster. Premiums have skyrocketed, many insurance providers have left the state, and health care choices have become increasingly limited. Everything we conservatives have predicted would happen with ObamaCare is now happening in Massachusetts.

Coulter’s other argument is that because the individual mandate is being carried out at the state and not the Federal level, as with ObamaCare, it’s ok for conservatives to support it. What? So, in other words, if a state quadrupled tax rates or banned all guns, then conservatives should support that

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But as any New Jersey conservative activist will attest, Christie isn’t a conservative and never has been. He ran his gubernatorial race as a moderate and won by defeating two conservatives. On the issue of gun control, global warming, immigration, gay rights, taxes, and many other issues, he’s a RINO. But apparently, Coulter thinks he’s a conservative because he talks tough to the media during press conferences. What a standard.

Coulter loves to rip liberals up for not having their facts straight but when it comes to certain male politicians, she allows her crushes to get in the way of reality.
And the Un-Masking of Mitt Romney, the left-wing, Progressive Liberal, continues . . .
"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton

1 posted on 04/16/2012 8:50:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Please, Ann. Set the cup down and slowly step away from the koolaid.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 8:54:12 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: SoConPubbie

I think her greatest moment was the Coulter Doctrine for the War on Terror:

Invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.

If we’d followed this, things would have probably turned out better (for us...).


3 posted on 04/16/2012 8:56:51 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The problem with Coulter as well as with people like Neal Bortz is that they look at anyone who has an “R” next to their name is good and anyone with a “D” next to their name is bad. The problem is that many republicans who have positions on issues that are no better that those of democrats. We call them RINO’s but Coulter, Bortz, et al. see no difference.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 8:57:44 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wonder who will win MA in the general? Mitt or Barack? Barack of course.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 8:58:13 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (If Romney needs my vote to win Mississippi, he is in a heck of a lot trouble more than me.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why would I (a conservative) be surprised that Coulter would support RomneyCare. I never considered Coulter to be conservative, just someone who was riding a wave. Hence, I never considered her opinion to be worthwhile, nor have I have I ever purchased any of her books due to that same reason.


6 posted on 04/16/2012 8:58:34 AM PDT by voicereason (Dems, Pubbies...too often a one-sided coin.)
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To: SoConPubbie

SISTER WIVES: Coulter wants to know more.

Pro-Abortion Basturd (sic) Rmoney 2002 YouTube video

Willard McBush WANTS polygamy in the afterlife. It makes him no different from practicing it NOW.

7 posted on 04/16/2012 9:01:01 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Little Ray
“Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached”.

I was unaware that Christian doctrine included conversion at the ‘point of a sword’. In fact I am certain that it does not. Neither is enforced religious conversion an American ideology consistent with freedom of conscience.

8 posted on 04/16/2012 9:02:04 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SoConPubbie

ann is a socialist and that is all that there is to it.

LLS


9 posted on 04/16/2012 9:02:37 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: SoConPubbie

SISTER WIVES: Coulter wants to know more.

Pro-Abortion Basturd (sic) Rmoney 2002 YouTube video

Willard McBush WANTS polygamy in the afterlife. It makes him no different from practicing it NOW.

10 posted on 04/16/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Sybeck1

I thought I saw that it was a 10 point race up there between Milt and Obummer. That seem remarkably close considering Obummer won MA in ‘08 62% to 36% for McLame.


11 posted on 04/16/2012 9:06:56 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Sopater
Ann is probably another David Brock.

At the very least she is heading down that road...

12 posted on 04/16/2012 9:07:32 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Lately, I’ve been reading Ann whenever I feel my blood pressure getting dangerously low. She cures it immediately.


13 posted on 04/16/2012 9:08:25 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: SoConPubbie
I think we know about as much as we need to know about how Conservative GOProud Ann really is.


14 posted on 04/16/2012 9:10:50 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Little Ray
I liked the Gen. Curtis LeMay doctrine better.....

“Bomb ‘em back to the stone-age”

15 posted on 04/16/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: SoConPubbie

Annie’s march through menopause must have really scrambled her mental whore moans. /sarc


16 posted on 04/16/2012 9:19:30 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’ll bet Bill Maher was surprised too when he and ann were playing a round of “find the sausage” in his bedroom.


17 posted on 04/16/2012 9:19:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SoConPubbie

What has happened to her?


18 posted on 04/16/2012 9:23:28 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty
What has happened to her?

I think she exposed herself by being pro-gay, and now selects her candidates on that basis.

19 posted on 04/16/2012 9:32:44 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: M-cubed

Unfortunately, for many Muslim countries, that is a really short trip and accomplishes little.


20 posted on 04/16/2012 9:35:45 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Bump


21 posted on 04/16/2012 9:36:19 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Sopater

This isn’t a slam on Romney, but Coulter jumped the shark for me a while ago. She just lobs verbal grenades now and sounds crazy. She is actually hurting the conservative movement because he nutty behavior is fodder for the liberals chattering away on TV. Ann should take her millions and quietly retire until she has something useful to say again.


22 posted on 04/16/2012 9:40:58 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: allmendream

We don’t have to use the “point of the sword” to convert them (though there were a few of those in Europe during the dark ages that worked out okay...).

Kill their leaders (and I mean the Imams, too) and disrupt the organizations that prevent conversion and threaten the missionaries and the converts, then let events take their natural course.

We have a better message than the Moslems, if we can protect those who preach it and those who convert.

We preach in advance of the Army,
We skirmish ahead of the Church,
With never a gunboat to help us
When we’re scuppered and left in the lurch.


23 posted on 04/16/2012 9:44:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Astronaut

ANY “woman” who let’s Bill Maher put his d*** in her...is and never has been a Conservative.


24 posted on 04/16/2012 9:52:56 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: Astronaut

ANY “woman” who let’s Bill Maher put his d*** in her...is not and never has been a Conservative.


25 posted on 04/16/2012 9:53:32 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: allmendream
I was unaware that Christian doctrine included conversion at the ‘point of a sword’.

Pope Benedict begins his book Introduction to Christianity with just this subject. Central to it is credo or I believe. This he contrasts to Judaism and adherence to the Law or pre-christian Rome making ritual central to their religion. But Ann is not a Catholic.

26 posted on 04/16/2012 9:55:41 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: SoConPubbie

A “side note” on how a conservative could support an individual mandate.

Step 1 - Congress repeals the 1980’s laws that requires Hospitals/Emergency Rooms that they must treat everyone, regardless of their ability to pay. If someone shows up in the ER - the ER must stabilize...and assess the ability of the person to pay for treatment. (If the individual has no coverage and there is no charitable organization willing to cover treatment, the ER can turn the individual out with not further treatment.)

Step 2 - Congress passes a “mandate” that people need to buy an insurance policy that covers low risk/high cost procedures, emergency medical treatment due to accidents, etc. No coverage - no treatment. There would be no efforts to track down to see if people have coverage - if they don’t have coverage and need treatment and they can’t pay for it (and no family or church or ?? will guarantee the coverage) - then - too bad - no treatment.

Step 3 - Congress mandates that hospitals/doctors not engage in cost-shifting. Everyone should be charged the same, regardless of payment out of pocket or payment by 3rd party insurance. Perhaps some minor discounts for prompt pay, volume discounts, etc. - but the goal should be to stop charging individuals 2 to 3 times what an insurance company is billed for the same procedure.

Imagine if gas stations had the same policy - you pump first, and when you pay, you are charged based on information available about you ....some might pay $10/gallon, while others pay $3/gallon, while Juan goes in and pumps gas and drives away, not having to pay anything! It is blatantly wrong to do this!

Now - am I for an individual mandate - YES - if described above.

When states mandate that insurance companies must include all sorts of “boutique” treatments that are unrelated to what insurance is about - I am disgusted that it should be un-Constitutional at the state level. When states mandate that insurance coverage should be offered with no exclusions for pre-existing conditions - again, I am outraged. How about a “super surcharge” that elevates the cost of insurance for 5 years or so to anyone who didn’t have coverage or dropped coverage - so that the insurance company can re-coup costs from the person who tried to game the system.

There are conservative approaches to fix the health care system ...I just don’t see them being discussed.


27 posted on 04/16/2012 10:08:36 AM PDT by Vineyard
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To: sirchtruth
Ann is probably another David Brock. At the very least she is heading down that road...

and David Brock never had to confront menopause...


28 posted on 04/16/2012 10:16:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TMA62
The problem with Coulter as well as with people like Neal Bortz is that they look at anyone who has an “R” next to their name is good and anyone with a “D” next to their name is bad.

Doesn't explain why she trashed every conservative in the 2008 and 2012 primaries, usually by picking stuff out from their records and saying it made them "liberals" while praising Mitt and calling him the truest conservative in the race.

29 posted on 04/16/2012 10:32:40 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: TMA62
“The problem with ... people like Neal Bortz is that they look at anyone who has an “R” next to their name is good ...”

Clearly, you haven't listened very often (or very carefully) to Boortz. He rails against big-government Rs more vehemently than against big-government Ds because the former are hypocrites.

30 posted on 04/16/2012 10:38:07 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: SoConPubbie

All true.

I don’t get Ann and her liberal fetish for Romney/Christie. You could both of them together and they still wouldn’t make a conservative. It’s like everything she said previously was a lie.

And I really like Ann Coulter...or did.


31 posted on 04/16/2012 10:38:38 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Vineyard
There are conservative approaches to fix the health care system ...I just don’t see them being discussed.

None of what you discuss expands the power of government and/or bureaucrats. 

That is why you won't hear democrats or republicans talking about it.

32 posted on 04/16/2012 11:02:39 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: SoConPubbie

My feeling, that explains it all for me, is that Ann has an undetected brain tumor.


33 posted on 04/16/2012 11:08:17 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (chirping birds + basket weavers who sit + smile + twiddle their thumbs + toes They're coming to take)
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To: SoConPubbie
Recall, Ann did the speech at the homo convention a while back.

Face it, Obamacare, Romneycare, isn't about getting grandma a heart bypass operation, it's about (us) paying for the extended care of AIDS and HIV positive patients, and hiding the expenses in with the skinned knees and banged up elbows...

34 posted on 04/16/2012 11:10:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Vineyard
How about a “super surcharge” that elevates the cost of insurance for 5 years or so to anyone who didn’t have coverage or dropped coverage - so that the insurance company can re-coup costs from the person who tried to game the system.

I carry catastrophic care (high per event deductible) and pay out of pocket. You would deny me that choice?

I'm not 'gaming a system' I'm choosing what is the most economical package that covers my needs.

There are conservative approaches to fix the health care system ...I just don’t see them being discussed.

Mandating I buy health insurance is not Conservative. Fining me for not paying for something I don't need is not Conservtive, either. So, I agree, I haven't seen any conservative approaches discussed, either.

35 posted on 04/16/2012 11:24:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Little Ray
Ah contrair!!!...it accomplishes alot for the next generation!!.....are u interested in doing 3-4 at a time???

(think it over..it will take u a second or two.....but you'll get it...;.*G*)

36 posted on 04/16/2012 6:46:06 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Smokin' Joe

Absolutely NOT. Read again what I proposed. You, carrying high catastrophic health care insurance and paying out of your pocket for smaller (and expected) expenses is EXACTLY the idea that should be permitted. YOU HAVE INSURANCE. But - many states won’t allow such programs - very very wrong, IMHO...and ObamaCare would MANDATE you carry boutique health care insurance that covers all sorts of stuff you don’t want or need ...or want to try to afford.

And go back and read what I said ....if you failed to carry insurance - no fine, no harm, no hassle - but if you showed up at the ER without insurance - they could turn you away. (And you might die...but it would be your fault for not getting some sort of insurance.) SO YOU would be faced with consequences of not having insurance, not others who would have gotten “stuck” with paying for your “free-ride” if you wanted treatment but had not gotten insurance!

The “super surcharge” concept is that if there are “mandates” (which I am opposed to) for insurance companies to issue insurance to people who have expensive pre-existing conditions - then the individuals should be stuck with extra fees to recoup the money they tried to save by scamming the system.


37 posted on 04/16/2012 10:11:05 PM PDT by Vineyard
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