Skip to comments.Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.
|Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America||y||y||n|
|Defended Roe v Wade as settled law||y||y||n|
|Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok||y||y||n|
|Supported planned parenthood||y||y||n|
|Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion||y||y||n|
|Supports homosexual agenda||y||y||n|
|Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in Scouts||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in military||y||y||n|
|Supported and still supports global warming hoax||y||y||n|
|Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban)||y||y||n|
|Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty)||y||y||n|
|Is undeniable father of RomneyCare||n||y||n|
|Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare||n||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is great!||y||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution"||n||y||n|
|Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional||y||y||n|
|Still believes individual mandate ok at state level||y||y||n|
|Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights)||?||y||n|
|Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there||y||y||n|
|Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary||y||y||n|
|Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax)||n||n||y|
|Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate)||n||n||y|
|Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year||n||n||y|
|Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits||n||n||y|
|Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment||n||n||y|
|Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people||n||n||y|
|Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry||n||n||y|
|Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights||n||n||y|
|Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges||y||y||n|
|Will challenge activist judiciary||n||n||y|
|Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up||n||n||y|
I do believe it's third party time. The GOP has been serving us up RINO presidential nominees since 1988. And as much as I liked Reagan, he did not do us any favors by choosing RINO George Bush as his running mate in 1980. (The VP slot on the ticket matters!)
Sarah Palin/Allen West is my dream 3rd Party ticket - that I would crawl through broken glass for - but there are other combinations that can get the job done in 2012 and it's not too late. At this juncture in 1992, nobody knew who Ross Perot was but by June, he was leading both Bush and Clinton in most polls. If not for the Perot campaign imploding and some rather odd behavior on the part of Perot that has still not been explained, I think he could have pulled it out. As it was, he still ended up with 20% of the vote which tells you even back then how hungry the American people were for a legitimate third party candidate.
Whether or not a legitimate third party option arises, I am going to take your advice on the downticket races as our best shot to minimize or even neutralize the damage of Romney presidency or a second Obama term is to INCREASE GOP majority in the House and GAIN GOP majority in the Senate by electing as many Tea Party candidates as we can.
Friday, December 28, 2007 - Boston Herald
"Former Gov. Mitt Romneys administration failed to act on disciplinary recommendations
that would have kept ex-con killer Daniel Tavares locked up another year -
and behind bars at the time he was accused of killing a newlywed couple in Washington state."
"Despite Tavares long history of violence, the Romney-led Department of Correction
took no action on recommendations that he be stripped of good time because
of assaults on prison guards in 2003 and 2005, said sources familiar with a state probe into the case."
"Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans,
has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced,
instead tapping registered Democrats or independents -- including two gay lawyers who
have supported expanded same-sex rights, a Globe review of the nominations has found.
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats
or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians
or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show.
In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters,
and 14 registered Democrats."
- Boston Globe 7/25/2005
Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge
Romney told the U.S. Senate on June 22, 2004, that the "real threat to the States is not the
constitutional amendment process, in which the states participate,
but activist judges who disregard the law and redefine marriage . . ."
Romney sounds tough but yet he had no qualms advancing the legal career of one
of the leading anti-marriage attorneys. He nominated Stephen Abany to a District Court.
Abany has been a key player in the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association which,
in its own words, is "dedicated to ensuring that the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision
on marriage equality is upheld, and that any anti-gay amendment or legislation is defeated."
- U.S. Senate testimony by Gov. Mitt Romney, 6/22/2004 P>
"Romney announces he won't fill judicial vacancies before term ends
Despite his rhetoric about judicial activism, Romney announced that
he won't fill all the remaining vacancies during his term - but instead
leave them for his liberal Democrat successor!
Governor Mitt Romney pledged yesterday not to make a flurry of lame-duck
judicial appointments in the final days of his administration . . . David Yas,
editor of Lawyers Weekly, said Romney is "bucking tradition" by resisting the urge to
fill all remaining judgeships. "It is a tradition for governors to use that power to appoint judges
aggressively in the waning moments of their administration," Yas said.
He added that Romney has been criticized for failing to make judicial appointments.
"The legal community has consistently criticized him for not filling open seats quickly enough
and being a little too painstaking in the process and being dismissive of the input of the
Judicial Nominating Commission," Yas said.
- Boston Globe 11/2/2006
"We fool them all, over and over."
Fair enough. Wondering why everyone was trying so hard to win the nomination if it doesn't mean anything.
That sort of intellectual dishonesty is unbecoming on you. You know full well that many of us are rallying around the only conservative left in the race.
The nomination means everything. If Romney gets it, America loses, no matter who wins in the Fall. If Newt gets it, the whole ugly picture shifts 180 degrees over the next four years, because he'll beat the ever-lovin' snot out of Obama and go on to enact a true reform agenda.
I’ll vote for Obama, just to make a statement.
and what would that statement be?
So..... now FR is becoming a pro-Obama site? If that happens, it will be the end of FR. Not supporting Romney yet supporting obama are NOT THE SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Palin/West run as a third party.
Romney becomes a Conservative. ....Nah, there are some things even God can't do, like make a square a circle. (James MacDonald)
I’m starting to think that everyone who replies to one of these threads with this “Well then who are you going to vote for?” nonsense is just a soft Romneybot.
There was a time not too many months ago when you referred to Newt as something like "marginally preferable.....barely acceptable as a conservative"
Glad to see you've come round.
The only viable conservative action is to not vote for President. Only when Socialist Republicans get <30% of the vote will the party understand Conservatism matters.
For the “list”.
So, you're simply here to disrupt these discussions, is that correct?
I wonder how Mr. Robinson feels about that?
great comment, thanks
Mind if I borrow this? I can add some color for Pos/Neg for easier reading..
(and then change to pic so it’s easy to spread the info to many outlets)
This is my last election, said Obama.
I wonder what he means. Assuming he means he’s gone one way or the other in 2012 or 2016, but hoping he didn’t mean he is there to stay, but there won’t be anymore elections.
If you’re urging people to vote for Romney, you’re a RINO pusher. Worse, you give your consent to the GOP in supporting abortion, tax payer funded abortion, teaching sodomy to school children (the homosexual agenda), homos leading scouts astray, homos in the military, hate crimes, liberal activist judges, compulsory socialized healthcare, government forcing people to enter into private contracts against their will in violation of their inalienable rights, statism, fascism, socialism, etc.
Our founders recognized that our inalienable rights come from God. Our nation was founded on the principle that these rights are sacred and not to be violated and that government derives its “just” powers at the consent of the governed.
I hereby withhold my consent for the government (including uber statists such as Romney or Obama) to trample on my God-given inalienable rights!!
I vote NAY on statism!!
Yeah, well there seem to be more "teach the GOP a lesson" than there are rallyers for Newt.
I think the true disaster is that our choices from the beginning have disappointed one after the other.
And based on Newt's recent comments that he could be "ver, very enthusiastic" for Romney if he wins the nom, I've already got a gut-shot from him. Is he just going to accrue as much conservative campaign contributions as he can and then turn around and stab us in the back with a Willard endorsement?
I would pay lots of money just to see Newt rip him to shreds.
That's not the problem, Jim -- that's the SOLUTION. :^)
I'm with you. Voting for Romney is as nuts as voting for Obama.
The only way to halt the GOP's veering to the left is to vote such at liberal socialist Republicans LOSE. It's the only way. I'm voting ABOOR and wish ALL conservatives who reject Romney would do the same, so that whichever socialist wins, wins with the slimmest plurality possible. When Clinton won with only 43 percent of the vote, he got CREAMED in the mid-terms.
Who are you voting for? Socialist A or Socialist B?
If conservatives are the largest political ideology in the United States, why don’t we have any representation in our government?
A few other categories should be added:
Supports unilateral US nuclear disarmament: y-n-n
Supports totalitarian Marxist/socialist/Islamic states over US interests in ALL instances: y-n-n
Believes the US is responsible for world unrest: y-n-n
Believes that the US must be rendered incapable of militarily influencing world politics: y-n-n
Apologizes world-wide for US role in world affairs: y-n-n
Believes that rulings from UN/multinational organizations supersede US Constitutional authority: y-n-n
Believes that war is ‘illegal’ without UN approval;: y-n-n
Obama has already given us New START which reduced deployed warheads by 70% from 5600 to 1600.
Obama has stated intention to reduce another 80% prior to reelection.
Obama reneged on US missile defense pledges to Europe.
Obama has prevented Israeli intervention in Iranian nuclear development.
Obama thinks Soviets are his friends, US voters are his enemies.
ANYONE is still better than Obama. Even though other candidates may be remarkably poor.
And at this point, even Ron Paul starts looking good.
Agreed. And I for one am getting sick of so many Sheeple asking Jim;
“Who should I vote for?”
I mean Really! You should know by now what JR’s position is. And If you need to have JR tell you who to vote for, then do you also need him to hold your hand as you enter the booth?
Sounds great to me! Thanks!
I can wholeheartedly agree with that, but I will say that once I really examined Newt's record of accomplishment, I came around to his side pretty quickly.
...based on Newt's recent comments that he could be "ver, very enthusiastic" for Romney if he wins the nom, I've already got a gut-shot from him.
The man does have a penchant for shooting himself in the foot with off-the-cuff statements, but as I said above, his record of conservative accomplishment proves that he will do the right thing if put into a position of great responsibility.
Foot bullets I can live with. What I can't live with, is more crushing Socialism coming from the very top.
Here’s a third choice to consider:
3. Write in your choice for POTUS or leave it blank and vote straight Republican down-ticket.
If we control the House and Senate, we can shut Obama down. We can hold all of his judicial appointments. We can withhold all money. We can even impeach and convict Obama and Holder for the crimes we know they’ve committed.
If we control both houses of Congress by a large majority, we can reverse much of what Obama’s done and he can’t do a damn thing to stop it. We could even pass a constitutional amendment or two and send them to the states for ratification. That’s the best case scenario we face, IMO.
If Romney wins, it’s business as usual, especially if we control both houses. The GOP-e and RINOs will never listen to or consider conservatives again. But ... if we give them absolutely solid majorities in both houses of Congress but deny them the presidency, guess what? They’ll never ignore us again.
Maybe we put them on notice with the above scenario and give them 4 years to reverse decades of big government. That’s the only way to stop Obama, RINOs, and big government all at the same time.
Give it some thought. I will be.
I'm urging people to vote.
Unfortunately, we had too much conservative infighting splitting the votes and benefiting Willard the RINO.
If Bachman and Santorum and Perry and Cain had bowed out early and thrown in with Newt, Romney wouldn't even be a consideration now. If youre urging people to vote for Romney, youre a RINO pusher.
If you're urging people to boycott Republicans downticket then you're an Obama agenda enabler!
I am praying you'll get your chance, in the form of donations to Newt's presidental campaign when he faces the Marxist as our nominee!
This ugly primary that the abortionist liar is trying to buy is not yet over. Nothing is set in cement or inevitable, like the corrupt lamestream would have us believe, so do not surrender and don't stop praying.
Put your trust in Him and continue to support Newt Gingrich and Free Republic; our beacons of truth and liberty!
Have you actually checked his record of the judges he backed as Governor?
And you're right! That is QUIT SIGNIFICANT!!!
You know what.
I have been pretty much shunned from other forums for not supporting Romney. Not that I mind that much, of course.
America needs a Statesman, ideally Newt, and the GOP sends us a Snake Oil Salesman..Romney. Pitiful excuse.
Agreed, but there is at least a chance we could bully him into nominating a decent conservative, maybe ala Roberts to the SCOTUS. Don’t expect a Scalia of course. That’s about it though as obviously nothing will be done to overturn Obamacare.
We the People have yet to grasp that the Two Party system is NOT the Dems-GOP.....nor is it Liberals-Conservatives.
It Iis DC-Flyover Country. The Lords and Masters -the peons and peasants. The day that reality dawns is the end of Federalism. They keep trying to literally dilute that understanding in Flyover Country.
I hereby withhold my consent for the government (including uber statists such as Romney or Obama) to trample on my God-given inalienable rights!!
That sums it up for me, too, Jim.
Great list, Jim.
EVERY primary voter should’ve had a copy of it to review BEFORE casting a vote.
Appreciate you compiling this.
I can put to use-—at least, I hope so. I have conservative friends who don’t want to hear the truth about Romney. I’m not telling them not to vote for him; they have to make that decision themselves. But I’d think folks would want to be informed about the person they vote for.
Haha! This is great!
There ya go. Seems a simple decision to me.
Thanks, copied, printed, will give to party official.
JLA, with all due respect, is there a reason you put triple exclamation points behind every sentence? Your posts would carry more weight if you didn’t. Just my opinion.
That’s why I’m not voting GOP this time around. I never had a chance to cast a vote for Gingrich here in VA, and just can’t bring myself to score one for Romney. This, unless some miracle of miracles happens and Romney gets kidnapped by aliens and Newt gets the nomination by default.
Otherwise, it’s the Constitution Party for me.
My initial reaction to Newt was knee jerk like many others due to his so-called baggage. But after our conservatives began dropping out, I took a fresh look at Newt, his record as a Reagan Revolutionary fighter and conservative leader of the house with many great conservative ACCOMPLISHMENTS, then studied his website and his vision for restoring constitutional government and restoring our Liberty and wished I’d done that review earlier.
He’s the only one who recognizes that to save America we must literally GUT the unconstitutional federal behemoth!! And he wants to do exactly that. GUT it!! Return the power to the states and the people!!
The libs and RINOS tremble in fear and so Newt must be destroyed!!
Romney admitted the other day that he has no interest in drastically cutting the government or taming the beast or drastically cutting our taxes. Just wants to cut the borrowing. Says government should only spend what it brings in (and presumably all of that). No mention of cutting it down to size. No mention of cutting spending down to only those items enumerated in the constitution. No mention of defending our rights or the constitution. Romney has a nasty habit of not cutting spending, not cutting government, but raising “revenues” to cover instead. He’s a “read my lips” kind of guy.
“If you’re urging people to boycott Republicans downticket then you’re an Obama agenda enabler!”
I’ve been watching this shouting match between you and Jim. And before you get the zot, can you please post to exactly where Jim (or anyone else) is advocating a boycott of Repubs downticket?
I sense we conservatives have already lost the general. I’m coming to terms with that. And I’m even relishing the idea of a lame duck Obama. Better a lame duck Obama than Romney with his ideas of socialism polluting the Republican Party.
But in any event; Now is the time to begin focusing on House and Senate races and targeting true TEA Party candidates. I am looking forward to having a strong House and Senate presence even if there is no one in the Hite House that is strong on conservative values.
Pretty ironic. Every one of your posts conjures up a vision of someone jumping up and down and screaming like a lunatic, hair standing on end like your stuck your finger in a wall socket.