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Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
April 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.

Issue Obama Romney Newt
Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America y y n
Defended Roe v Wade as settled law y y n
Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok y y n
Supported planned parenthood y y n
Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion y y n
Supports homosexual agenda y y n
Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy y y n
Ok with homosexuals in Scouts y y n
Ok with homosexuals in military y y n
Supported and still supports global warming hoax y y n
Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban) y y n
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty) y y n
Is undeniable father of RomneyCare n y n
Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare n y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is great! y y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution" n y n
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional y y n
Still believes individual mandate ok at state level y y n
Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights) ? y n
Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there y y n
Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary y y n
Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax) n n y
Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate) n n y
Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year n n y
Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated n n y
Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated n n y
Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits n n y
Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment n n y
Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people n n y
Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry n n y
Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights n n y
Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges y y n
Will challenge activist judiciary n n y
Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up n n y


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To: MI

He dropped out and endorsed Newt;^)


151 posted on 04/16/2012 12:36:28 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: Diogenesis
"Seamus (in hiding)”Is it safe to come out?

Did the GOP dump Myth yet?”

LOL!!

152 posted on 04/16/2012 12:37:18 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Jim Robinson

Whoa!!

How to get this to the masses?? Will tweet it myself. People should all tweet and facebook this list.

If only all the people I know who think mitt would be great for the economy could see this! It’s amazing.

(with newt foaming over the abuelitas, I still see him as pro amnesty — only quibble I have with it)


153 posted on 04/16/2012 12:39:29 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: sam_paine
"If you're urging people to boycott Republicans downticket then you're an Obama agenda enabler!"

Where the hell have you been? I've been urging people to turnout as never before to vote straight conservative DOWN TICKET!! Long live the tea party rebellion!!

154 posted on 04/16/2012 12:40:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Sola Veritas

Unfortunately, too many have convinced themselves that Romney is better than Obama and are still going to vote for him.


JimRob’s list is brilliant for anyone who dares think Romney is CONSERVSTIVE or even REPUBLICAN. Romney is a Democrat. However, Romney is American and is not working for foreign enemies. So he is better than Obama in that respect.


155 posted on 04/16/2012 12:43:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jim Robinson

Now we will see who the fakers are.


156 posted on 04/16/2012 12:43:29 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (If you quit you don't get your miracle.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nobody ever said Mitsy was conservative, just more conservative than Obama


157 posted on 04/16/2012 12:43:55 PM PDT by 12chachacha
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t see how anybody would not vote for Newt if they had seen Newt at ORU. He’s the only candidate with a reasonable plan to reverse America’s decline into communism and rebuild free market capitalism. Some FReepers would throw America’s future away because he sat on a sofa with Nancy the Nazi, incredible!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UenFM3skhew


158 posted on 04/16/2012 12:44:00 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: Phlap; Jim Robinson; DJ MacWoW
Get over it already. Mitt is the nominee and undermining him will only help Barry. Remember Regans rule.

FReepers like you are growing very tedious, and tiresome.

This ugly primary that Romney's trying to buy is not yet over, despite the rhetoric the lamestream and pundity are trying to sell to you surrender monkeys and "go-along-Grand Old Party-Firster's," citing Reagan's Rule, that Reagan didn't write!

I'll cite Sarah Palin to you: "Buck-up or get out of the truck!"

Newt Gingrich remains in this primary fight to the convention and for all the right reasons, --- he 's offering real solutions to our real problems and he's the anti-obama! Newt said he was all in to the convention from the day he entered the race, and whadda ya know? He's the final conservative standing! Our best warrior!

The liar, liberal abortionist from Massachusetts doesn't have his 1144 delegates and he can still be stopped, but not with a bunch of shameful whiners already conceding to Romney.

Put your trust in Him. Support Newt Gingrich. Pray and support your fellow TEA Party conservatives and FReepers in our fight FOR Life, Liberty, Constitution, Family, God and Country.




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159 posted on 04/16/2012 12:44:31 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: MI
Where’s Ron Paul’s column?

The same place as his campaign.

160 posted on 04/16/2012 12:44:44 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: MI

Ron Paul

Is that a candy bar?


161 posted on 04/16/2012 12:44:48 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: FReepers

Click The Pic To Donate

In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams

162 posted on 04/16/2012 12:44:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

You have said what I began thinking right after Palin announced she wouldn’t run. I did get behind Santorum, but he didn’t make it. In the primary I will vote for Newt, just because he’s the only conservative left, but if Romney gets the nom. I will not vote for him. I will down-ballot conservative and write in some name at the president place.

People keep talking about being afraid of Obama if he gets re-elected. How his people must LOVE to read those posts!

I am not afraid of Obama. He is like the punk with his gang of follower thugs. Take away the followers and watch the punk shrivel.

Fill the House and Senate to take away the follower thugs and enjoy the show! That is what I say!

By the way, I have never bought the line that Romney is the only electable candidate. Romney has never had a prayer against Obama. If Obama was seen as a white man and had the exact same record, Romney might have a chance against him, but “historic black” can’t be beaten by “rich-guy white” when all their other policies are exactly the same.

Just my opinion.


163 posted on 04/16/2012 12:47:21 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Albion Wilde; jimrob

Thank you BUMP!


164 posted on 04/16/2012 12:47:48 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Marcella

Thanks, copied, printed, will give to party official.

Just for kicks send a copy to Fox News (or Weasel News as I now call it).


165 posted on 04/16/2012 12:49:09 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: 12chachacha

Where?


166 posted on 04/16/2012 12:50:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Phlap; Jim Robinson; onyx
Remember Regans rule.

Some information for you.

"Reagans" 11th Commandment was thought up by California Republican Party Chairman Gaylord Parkinson.

Reagan DROPPED it when he was getting creamed by Ford in 1976 and NEVER used it again!

167 posted on 04/16/2012 12:50:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Windflier; JLAGRAYFOX; Jim Robinson; All
I get the greatest kick out of getting you folks wound up!!! And.....you fall for it every single time!!!

So, you're simply here to disrupt these discussions, is that correct?
I wonder how Mr. Robinson feels about that?


I've seen more intelligent trolls zotted for less than that.
168 posted on 04/16/2012 12:51:18 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Bikkuri; IM2MAD; Jim Robinson
Mind if I borrow this? I can add some color for Pos/Neg for easier reading.. (and then change to pic so it’s easy to spread the info to many outlets)...and distribute in states that haven't held their primaries, yet...at libraries, grocery stores, etc.

A colorized pdf of this chart would be great. Please ping me if you do this. Thanks!

Go Newt!


169 posted on 04/16/2012 12:52:45 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Supports unilateral US nuclear disarmament: y-n-n

Supports totalitarian Marxist/socialist/Islamic states over US interests in ALL instances: y-n-n

Believes the US is responsible for world unrest: y-n-n

Believes that the US must be rendered incapable of militarily influencing world politics: y-n-n

Apologizes world-wide for US role in world affairs: y-n-n

Believes that rulings from UN/multinational organizations supersede US Constitutional authority: y-n-n

Believes that war is ‘illegal’ without UN approval;: y-n-n
___________________________________________________________

Just give Willard 1 minute to change his mind.
Wait! Wait! Wait for it!


170 posted on 04/16/2012 12:54:21 PM PDT by billys kid (saying that there are too many children, is like saying that there are too many flowers Mother Tresa)
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To: Lazamataz

We need a revolution at the convention.


171 posted on 04/16/2012 12:54:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Why do you believe Republicans can “shut Obama down” if they control the House and Senate?

The House controls the purse strings, but we still run $1 Trillion deficits. His appointments get through the Senate with little effort, as do his treaties (New START 2011), but Obama has evaded Senate ‘advice and consent’ authority without consequence for three and a half years through the use of czars, unofficial appointments, administrative regulations and Executive Orders. Friday, April 13, he created a new agency vis-s-vis Executive Order to regulate the US Domestic Natural Gas industry - not a peep from Congress. The EPA creates a bureaucratic ‘cap and trade’ since Congress won’t, and 535 church mice respond with submission. We have 40? phantom departments now run by czars and no one says a word.

I don’t believe Obama is acting as an American President. I believe his is preparing the way as an insurgent revolutionary. 2016 elections will not occur unless we stop him here and now, IMHO.


172 posted on 04/16/2012 12:55:00 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: mkjessup

Yes, I will take Mussolini instead of Hitler! Its a no brainer.


173 posted on 04/16/2012 12:55:09 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Phlap
Get over it already. Mitt is the nominee and undermining him will only help Barry. Remember Regans rule.

OMG. It is REAGAN not 'REGAN' you idiot!
174 posted on 04/16/2012 12:57:19 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: TheGunny
Yes, I will take Mussolini instead of Hitler! Its a no brainer.

Well for you, that makes sense.

Having no brain of course.
175 posted on 04/16/2012 12:58:29 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: mnehring; MI; Dengar01; PhilCollins
Newt is incorrectly listed as "N" for 1) Supported and still supports global warming hoax , 2) Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty), and 3) "believes individual mandate ok".

In reality, Newt Gingrich was very outspoken in promoting the global warming hoax (even agreeing John Kerry in a "debate" that man-made global warming is an urgent crisis and we must take action now), called for setting up a government board to determine which illegal aliens should get amnesty, giving an example as "people who have lived here for 25 years and have families" as one group that would qualify (as JimRob noted, "by any other name it's still amnesty") and Newt was still touting an Individual Mandate for Health Care as Recently as May 2009

There WAS (past tense) a candidate in the race who had a clear record opposing all those things, but freepers refused to vote for him.

I agree Ron Paul should have a column, since he's still one of the "presidential choices as it stands today". You can make the case that Newt Gingrich is "more conservative" than Paul (he certainly is on foriegn policy), but ignoring Paul all together and not listing his positions doesn't sway any freepers who on the fence and considering Paul. (for the record: I am NOT considering Paul)

176 posted on 04/16/2012 12:59:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: FReepers
The Republican Party Says Romney Is Our Best Hope

Here's Their Spokesman Now To Tell Us Why

Click The Pic To Donate To Real Conservatism. Do It Monthly If You Can

177 posted on 04/16/2012 12:59:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

I will be voting for Newt. I will not write in Sarah because she doesn’t want it and has made that clear. Newt can do again what he did in the 90’s.

We can stop Obama & the RINOs and reduce & reverse all at the same time if Newt doesn’t get the nomination and Romney does.


178 posted on 04/16/2012 12:59:47 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: TheGunny

...keeping in mind that I voted for Newt in the MI primary. I will support whom ever the guy with the R next to his name is...less vigorously yes, but WILL support none the less.


179 posted on 04/16/2012 1:00:17 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: onyx

Really, you folks need to get over it...this site is getting to depressing. Romney is the nominee of the Republican party and Newt is NOT!

If you guys don’t like it, start you own party - yeah, didn’t think it was an option. But stop telling us Republicans how bad our nominee is...this is a democracy. You candidate(s) lost in the primaries and that’s life. No point in getting un-hinged.

I have been a FR member/subscriber for many years and will continue to do so no matter how unwelcoming some of it’s other members (and owner) may be - I suspect most FR members are moving on to the general and while Romney might not have been our likely candidate (mine was Perry), I’m a Republican and at the end, I will support the party’s nominee.


180 posted on 04/16/2012 1:04:11 PM PDT by JerseyRepub (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: mkjessup
Nice. As an active duty Marine, I believe the R will be less harmful to our republic. I count myself very conservative, but have enough sense to stay away from “scorched earth” strategies. I am hoping for Newt, but will support R if I have to.
181 posted on 04/16/2012 1:07:02 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: JerseyRepub; onyx
You may be on the wrong site. This is a CONSERVATIVE site. Not Republican. We have principles and we stand by them.

Also, Romney does NOT have the needed 1144. He still can be stopped. And REAL Patriots intend to try.

182 posted on 04/16/2012 1:07:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks. This confirms the candidate test I took that showed Obama represents me better than Romney does. Not that I can stomach the commie Muslim. Just, Romney is even further to the left.

Amazing.


183 posted on 04/16/2012 1:07:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
If we control both houses of Congress by a large majority, we can reverse much of what Obama’s done and he can’t do a damn thing to stop it. We could even pass a constitutional amendment or two and send them to the states for ratification. That’s the best case scenario we face, IMO.

If Romney wins, it’s business as usual, especially if we control both houses. The GOP-e and RINOs will never listen to or consider conservatives again.

But ... if we give them absolutely solid majorities in both houses of Congress but deny them the presidency, guess what? They’ll never ignore us again.

That is some of the clearest, best logic and reasoning I've seen on this issue since these discussions began. Kudos!

184 posted on 04/16/2012 1:07:27 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Salvation; NYer; narses; Pyro7480; xzins; FatherofFive; ..
See tagline. The "I don't really want to, but I'll have to support Willard" crowd epitomize that statement.

To make it clearer, let me provide the context:

To recoil before an enemy, or to keep silence when from all sides such clamors are raised against truth, is the part of a man either devoid of character or who entertains doubt as to the truth of what he professes to believe. In both cases such mode of behaving is base and is insulting to God, and both are incompatible with the salvation of mankind. This kind of conduct is profitable only to the enemies of the faith, for nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good. Moreover, want of vigor on the part of Christians is so much the more blameworthy, as not seldom little would be needed on their part to bring to naught false charges and refute erroneous opinions, and by always exerting themselves more strenuously they might reckon upon being successful. After all, no one can be prevented from putting forth that strength of soul which is the characteristic of true Christians, and very frequently by such display of courage our enemies lose heart and their designs are thwarted. Christians are, moreover, born for combat, whereof the greater the vehemence, the more assured, God aiding, the triumph: "Have confidence; I have overcome the world." (John 16:33)

From a letter by Pope Leo XIII (1890), On Christians as Citizens

To support a pro-abort, homosexualist chameleon solely because he might not be as bad as Øbama is the height of cowardice and displays conduct unworthy of a Christian.

185 posted on 04/16/2012 1:08:05 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: JerseyRepub; All
I’m a Republican and at the end, I will support the party’s nominee.

Karl Rove and the rest of the GOP establishment thank you for your bleet.

You're no conservative, and when you get sheered with the rest of the GOP sheep, you'll learn the hard way.
186 posted on 04/16/2012 1:09:03 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: mnehring

The cheap ones or the $47 ones?


187 posted on 04/16/2012 1:09:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mnehring
83519.0 Colombian Pesos (COP) is equal to 47 US Dollars (USD)

188 posted on 04/16/2012 1:11:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mkjessup

You don’t get to tell me if I’m a conservative or not as much as I get to tell you. Like I said in my post, get over it!


189 posted on 04/16/2012 1:12:55 PM PDT by JerseyRepub (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: GBA
(America has been infected. Be the cure!)

This nation has a SPIRITUAL problem: political fixes will not help a thing.

190 posted on 04/16/2012 1:13:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

>>I’ll vote for Obama, just to make a statement.<<

Then, after Obama drives the final nail in America’s coffin, you can brag to your great-grandchildren what a frickin genius you were.


191 posted on 04/16/2012 1:15:02 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Anyone who thinks we can sit home, then survive four more years of Obama, is a damned fool.)
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To: Psalm 144

Ouch, bout says it all.


192 posted on 04/16/2012 1:15:27 PM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican SOCIALISTelites, are Big Government socialists,)
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To: McGruff

No; I am NOT related to Bill Mahre.

Why do you ask?


193 posted on 04/16/2012 1:16:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JerseyRepub; mkjessup; onyx

A broken glass Republican is never a conservative. They are party first, even if it means compromising their principles.


194 posted on 04/16/2012 1:16:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Yaelle
Romney is a Democrat. However, Romney is American and is not working for foreign enemies.

How can you tell?

195 posted on 04/16/2012 1:16:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
So, between the two that have a chance of being elected president in 2012, who will you vote for? The Democrat Socialist, or the Republican Socialist?

Sadly, the Republican Socialist because I've already seen how terrible the Democrat Socialist is and could not stomach in any way shape or form for more years of it or understand why any rational person would prefer four more years of it when the Republican Socialist is, at least, pro-business and would cause the markets to begin expanding again, causing more investment and more jobs.

The Democrat Socialist only means four more years or brutal pain and I've already been out of work enough times under his presidency to not want four more years of it. I'd vote for a pet rock before I'd do anything that might put Obama in office another four years.

196 posted on 04/16/2012 1:18:29 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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To: McGruff
Teddy; do NOT bring up that BLACK Inferior thing.

I was just a 30 YO when my god revealed to my Living Prophet® that it was time to change my church's stance on them.

Jeeze!

What was I supposed to do about it?

197 posted on 04/16/2012 1:18:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: 12chachacha
Nobody ever said Mitsy was conservative, just more conservative than Obama

Prove it. Per his record, he's every bit as liberal as Obama is.

198 posted on 04/16/2012 1:20:12 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

So, are you reccomending Mitt Obama, or Hussein Romney?
.


199 posted on 04/16/2012 1:20:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Honestly, with comments like that (>>I’ll vote for Obama, just to make a statement.<<), I really beginning to think that we have DUmmies in our midst instigating this inane division.


200 posted on 04/16/2012 1:20:27 PM PDT by JerseyRepub (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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