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Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
April 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.

Issue Obama Romney Newt
Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America y y n
Defended Roe v Wade as settled law y y n
Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok y y n
Supported planned parenthood y y n
Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion y y n
Supports homosexual agenda y y n
Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy y y n
Ok with homosexuals in Scouts y y n
Ok with homosexuals in military y y n
Supported and still supports global warming hoax y y n
Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban) y y n
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty) y y n
Is undeniable father of RomneyCare n y n
Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare n y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is great! y y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution" n y n
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional y y n
Still believes individual mandate ok at state level y y n
Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights) ? y n
Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there y y n
Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary y y n
Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax) n n y
Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate) n n y
Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year n n y
Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated n n y
Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated n n y
Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits n n y
Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment n n y
Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people n n y
Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry n n y
Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights n n y
Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges y y n
Will challenge activist judiciary n n y
Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up n n y


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To: flintsilver7
Romney has big plans for you and me. For starters, even with all the damage he has done to our nation and our freedom with RomneyCare (ObamaCare) he still loves the little piece of statist/fascism bearing his name and is now setting up a national health care task force to impose it on all 50 states. He still insists that it is a “conservative free-market” program and he refuses to recognize the truth. Well, that’s probably because “truth” is a foreign concept to him, but that’s another story. If RomneyCare is free-market then why does it require government force, mandates and penalties for non-compliance to impose it on us? There is nothing conservative or free-market about RomneyCare or its author.

Romney must think the “con” in conservative stands for conman. He certainly is a flim-flam man. There’s nothing conservative about Romney despite the rhetoric spewing from his big lying mouth. As they say in Texas, he’s all hat and no cattle.


Aren't you going to tell Jim how wrong he is and we must vote for Romney or we are voting for Obama by default?
401 posted on 04/16/2012 4:32:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Defiant

My previous reply hopefully can also serve as a reply to you as well, here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2872793/posts?page=400#400


402 posted on 04/16/2012 4:33:13 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Bikkuri

Perfect! Thanks, FRiend!!


403 posted on 04/16/2012 4:34:07 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: nascarnation

Karl Rove is Axlegrease’s secret weapon. He (Rove) has put up the weakest GOP candidate possible. Romney’s a complete fraud with zero conservative or even Republican credentials and every voter will know it. And way too much baggage. They’ll never get him through the bible belt. Romney’s toast if he’s the one.


404 posted on 04/16/2012 4:34:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Albion Wilde
Thanks for the ping!

I already voted for Newt!

405 posted on 04/16/2012 4:35:54 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Yaelle
Romney is American and is not working for foreign enemies. So he is better than Obama in that respect.

If you consider Soros and the rest of the OneWorld crew neither foreign nor enemies, that is.

406 posted on 04/16/2012 4:37:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: FatherofFive
“Then you are voting for the communist who will work to destroy America.”

“ABO. Anybody But Obama”
_________________________________________________

Many of these same folks who are bi*ching about Romney being our potential nominee, actively joined the likes of Politico and other Left-leaning rags in trashing our guys. Now they have the onions to sit here and cast condemnation on those of us who will support Romney if he becomes the nominee. Sorry guys, but when you joined Politco in their trashing of Bachmann and Cain, you helped bring this on.

Hmmm, now what was the famous FReeper line with regards to our earlier nominees? Oh yes, here it is: “They just aren't presidential...they just aren't ready for prime time!”

407 posted on 04/16/2012 4:42:50 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: D-fendr; EGPWS; itsahoot
That has to be one of the biggest crocks that I've seen in a loooooong time!

The press and party elites picked Romney last year. It's his "turn". Just like it was McCains.

408 posted on 04/16/2012 4:44:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional

I'm late to this thread (traveling today) so maybe someone has already asked on what basis you believe RomneyCare is not Constitutional. (I am referring to RomneyCare as something Massachusetts did to itself, as opposed to Federal legislation.) If so, would you please point me to the reply you gave some time ago, or else briefly state why you think the Constitution prohibits a State from imposing this upon its citizens.

ML/NJ

409 posted on 04/16/2012 4:44:36 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Artcore
Many of these same folks who are bi*ching about Romney being our potential nominee, actively joined the likes of Politico and other Left-leaning rags in trashing our guys. Now they have the onions to sit here and cast condemnation on those of us who will support Romney if he becomes the nominee. Sorry guys, but when you joined Politco in their trashing of Bachmann and Cain, you helped bring this on.

Nice strawman you have there. Who exactly on FreeRepublic are these dastardly cowards? Can you name names? Of course not. Unlike you, we form our opinions from conservative principles, not the flavor of the week. Go back to your RomneyBot echo chamber.

410 posted on 04/16/2012 4:51:52 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Tzimisce
Why isn’t there any conservative representation in Washington? :(:(:(:(:(

I don't know, but what I do know is that Boehner can work with the democrats, but hates the Tea Party. As soon as those people (who gave him his office) got to town, he set to work marginalizing or coopting them. In between crying spells. McConnell is worse than Boehner, and if our efforts lead to him being the Senate Majority Leader, then we will have wasted our time.

411 posted on 04/16/2012 4:52:11 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: caww

AMEN! historical grasp and historical achievements as Speaker of the House.


412 posted on 04/16/2012 4:55:54 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: caww

AMEN! historical grasp and historical achievements as Speaker of the House.


413 posted on 04/16/2012 4:55:54 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: COBOL2Java

“Can you name names?”
___________________

Can you tell me the basis of referring to me as a “Romneybot” considering my posting history? Of course not. ;-)


414 posted on 04/16/2012 4:56:47 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore
Can you tell me the basis of referring to me as a “Romneybot” considering my posting history? Of course not. ;-)

When did I call you a RomneyBot?

415 posted on 04/16/2012 4:58:08 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java

“When did I call you a RomneyBot?”
_________________________________

COBOL2Java said:

“Go back to your RomneyBot echo chamber.”


416 posted on 04/16/2012 5:01:30 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: DJ MacWoW
The press and party elites picked Romney last year.

Didn't pick him for me, did they pick them for you? Or are you saying the voters are to stupid? How are you going to educate them? Or do you just give up?

Do you expect to ever win an election if you can't overcome the elites and press? How? By re-electing Obama?

417 posted on 04/16/2012 5:02:13 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
If you read my reply, and still think your post 400 is persuasive, then you missed a point or two. Conservatives are locked out of the Republican Party, purposely and permanently. You can't take control of an organization that is that stacked against you. If a conservative can't win this year, then it can't be done, and won't be done any time before the communists have finished their take over.

The way to gain control of the GOP is to leave it, and have the Republicans who still love their country come join a new conservative party.

418 posted on 04/16/2012 5:02:56 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Artcore

A lot of good people are stuck in the RomneyBot echo chamber. We are trying mightily to get them out so they can see the light. But, if you enjoy being in there and absorbing the lies, well...


419 posted on 04/16/2012 5:03:18 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: mnehring

“None of the above” is quite appropriate for a Republican primary filled with candidates that could not keep their feet out of their mouths. There are a whole lot more reasons why Newt is not an acceptable candidate, not the least of which is his lack of personal integrity. Personally, I would have preferred a brokered convention with a new candidate to any of the candidates I was offered. Sounds like you’ll be voting for Willard this fall.


420 posted on 04/16/2012 5:03:32 PM PDT by klute
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To: Jim Robinson

I know every minute detail of the reality of this list... but it chills the blood to see it in a spreadsheet.

LLS


421 posted on 04/16/2012 5:03:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: Brad's Gramma

Forget it, dear, it’s a waste of time!!! You are only fooling yourself while making a fool out of your self which is totally unecessary if you live in the real world. I cannot believe the filthy verbage and hate spasms I have noted on this site posted by so called conservative Freepers. Leftie nutcase/Righty nutcase, what’s the difference??? Obama must be defeated!!! End of story!!! I want Freedom, Liberty, Opportunity to succeed and progress with individual effort. Obama rules with hate, racism and communism, and the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!!! If only some of these Freeper posters could objectively read what they pen!!! Sad!!!


422 posted on 04/16/2012 5:05:23 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy t, cast Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Artcore; Jim Robinson; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Salvation; NYer; narses; Pyro7480; xzins; ...
Many of these same folks who are bi*ching about Romney being our potential nominee, actively joined the likes of Politico and other Left-leaning rags in trashing our guys. Now they have the onions to sit here and cast condemnation on those of us who will support Romney if he becomes the nominee. Sorry guys, but when you joined Politco in their trashing of Bachmann and Cain, you helped bring this on.

This is the same crap that you trolls were trying to sell us four years ago when we rejected Rooty.

Myth Romney is THE MOST SUCCESSFUL LEFTIST POLITICIAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY. NOTHING that Zero has done could have been accomplished without Myth paving the way for socialized medicine and militant homosexualism.

Read Jim's chart on this thread. Myth doesn't have a chance in hell of winning, but even if he did his agenda would be just as destructive. Myth needs to be stopped and it needs to happen right now.

423 posted on 04/16/2012 5:08:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: JediJones

Ronald Reagan, “The USA is only one election away from tyranny!!!”!!! You think it can’t happen here. Just study world history and you will get a concrete answer!!!


424 posted on 04/16/2012 5:09:13 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy t, cast Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX; Brad's Gramma
Forget it, dear, it’s a waste of time!!! You are only fooling yourself while making a fool out of your self which is totally unecessary if you live in the real world. I cannot believe the filthy verbage and hate spasms I have noted on this site posted by so called conservative Freepers. Leftie nutcase/Righty nutcase, what’s the difference??? Obama must be defeated!!! End of story!!! I want Freedom, Liberty, Opportunity to succeed and progress with individual effort. Obama rules with hate, racism and communism, and the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!!! If only some of these Freeper posters could objectively read what they pen!!! Sad!!!

Yesss! Listen to JLGRAYFOX, Brad's Gramma! It's hopelesssss to want anyone but Romney! You must support Romney! If you don't vote for Romney, Obama will be re-elected, and it will be ALL...YOUR...FAULT!


425 posted on 04/16/2012 5:10:55 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: D-fendr; EGPWS; itsahoot
Most voters are stupid. They still read newspapers and watch TV news. And buy every word of it.

And the party doesn't pick people that we would. They pick their own stooges.

Florida broke the rules for Romney. Has the party said anything? No? Why is that? Hm?

426 posted on 04/16/2012 5:11:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!!!

Oh my! That is quite an accusation. And still using the 3 exclamation marks, so I guess we better listen.

I don't think you are fooling anyone any more.

427 posted on 04/16/2012 5:11:57 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Great chart

I would like to see a chart with Rick Perry on these issues.

To see what we lost.


428 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:33 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Defiant
Conservatives are locked out of the Republican Party, purposely and permanently.

How, precisely, is this implemented?

429 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:33 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: wagglebee

“This is the same crap that you trolls were trying to sell us four years ago when we rejected Rooty.”
_____________________________________________

I was (still am) actually a huge Palin supporter...the only reason I voted McLame.


430 posted on 04/16/2012 5:15:50 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore
I was (still am) actually a huge Palin supporter...the only reason I voted McLame.

Riiight [rolls eyes]

431 posted on 04/16/2012 5:18:14 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Most voters are stupid.

I think that is a doomed worldview. The idea of liberty is that you can trust free and informed individuals. I think this is a conservative worldview.

And the party doesn't pick people that we would.

The party doesn't prevent any qualified candidate from running and doesn't prevent any conservative from voting for them.

The "party" is not the same one day to the other. It's not this unchanging monolithic abstract. It is comprised of individuals. Those in positions of power can be changed and have been.

Any thing you can do with a third party you can do easier and quicker within the GOP. Anything you can't do within the GOP, you can't do with a third party.

432 posted on 04/16/2012 5:18:58 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jim Robinson; JLAGRAYFOX; Brad's Gramma

>> “Obama rules with hate, racism and communism, and the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!” <<

.
Is the lightning machine down for service today?
.


433 posted on 04/16/2012 5:19:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Florida broke the rules for Romney.

If I remember correctly, Virginia did a little rule rewrite and interpretation also to favor Mittens.

434 posted on 04/16/2012 5:19:42 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: Drew68
"Good for you.

When my children are suffering under the draconian policies of the second Obama Administration, no way no how will I look them in the eyes and say, "Don't blame me! I wrote in Sarah Palin!"

Is that really what we conservatives have come to? Ready to dismiss a Christian's loyalty to God and His expectations of His children? It's really easy to spew talk about the Lord, but this is one of those HARD times when, if you know Him, you have to search your heart, pray, and really ask yourself if aligning yourself with abortion and homosexuality is permissible in His eyes. And then act accordingly, as hard as it is.

Country is important, but nothing comes before God. Trust in His blessings and loving care. But, the choice is up to you, of course. Just don't be so dismissive of moral and spiritual priorities.

435 posted on 04/16/2012 5:19:48 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: editor-surveyor
Is the lightning machine down for service today?

I think we're letting the RomneyBots and conservative quislings play around a little...

436 posted on 04/16/2012 5:20:53 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Artcore; Jim Robinson; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Salvation; NYer; narses; Pyro7480; xzins; ...
I was (still am) actually a huge Palin supporter...the only reason I voted McLame.

A true Palin supporter would NEVER support Myth Romney. And I say that as one of the very earliest Palin supporters, I was supporting her candidacy months before most non-Alaskans even knew who she was (and I can prove it).

437 posted on 04/16/2012 5:21:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ml/nj

I believe it would be unconstitutional for the state to force its citizens to enter into private contracts against their will simply for simply living within a state. I might understand requiring liability insurance if you wish to register and drive a car within a state, but compulsory health insurance just to live in the state? This would be a direct violation of their 4th amendment right to be secure in their homes, papers and private affairs if nothing else.

Definitely a violation of the founding principles and of our inalienable God-given rights to individual liberty and right to self-rule and economic freedom (pursuit of happiness). It’s clear to see that Romney cares no more about individual sovereignty or conservatism or Liberty than does Obama!!

Ronald Reagan on RomneyCare (compulsory health insurance) and the elites (Romney) introducing socialism into America via compulsory health insurance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs


438 posted on 04/16/2012 5:23:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: flintsilver7
"Is Romney an enemy? Socially, absolutely, but he’s not an enemy of the country"

He promotes abortion and homosexuality, which contributes to the downfall of the nation. God is real.

439 posted on 04/16/2012 5:23:59 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: D-fendr

Again, you apparently did not read the post you responded to.


440 posted on 04/16/2012 5:24:54 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: D-fendr; EGPWS; itsahoot
I notice that you totally ignored the RNC machines actions, or lack of them, in Florida. Didn't fit your party propaganda, did it.

Bye.

441 posted on 04/16/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: COBOL2Java
“Riiight [rolls eyes]”
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A review of my posting history confirms what I say is true. My posting history also confirms that when she said she wasn't going to run, I got firmly behind Cain, then Newt, and then Santorum (when I thought Newt might drop out or didn't have a chance). I'm still very hopeful Newt can pull something off. He will destroy the Kenyan in debates.

442 posted on 04/16/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: wagglebee
“A true Palin supporter would NEVER support Myth Romney. And I say that as one of the very earliest Palin supporters, I was supporting her candidacy months before most non-Alaskans even knew who she was (and I can prove it).”
_________________________________________________

Well, we're in good company, I've also been a very loud Palin supporter since she ran with McCain.

You do have one problem, however, in your comment above; Palin has said on numerous occasions “ABO”...even if this meant Romney was the candidate.

Penny for your thoughts?

443 posted on 04/16/2012 5:29:17 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore

Then why in God’s name could you possibly be willing to support Romney? He is 100% antithetical to everything that Sarah Palin stands for. Those of us who will NEVER vote for the faux conservative do so out of strong principles. We can never allow ourselves to fall into the ends-justify-the-means RINO arguments for supporting Romney. If we do, then we have abandoned conservatism, and like the man who boasts that he is the most humble person ever born, has explicitly lost the argument.


444 posted on 04/16/2012 5:29:51 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: SoConPubbie

Jim and I have gone back and forth this thread.

I’ll let you catch up on your own time.


445 posted on 04/16/2012 5:30:29 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Artcore; Jim Robinson; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Salvation; NYer; narses; Pyro7480; xzins; ...
You do have one problem, however, in your comment above; Palin has said on numerous occasions “ABO”...even if this meant Romney was the candidate.

Palin has a position to maintain in the GOP, I don't.

You might notice that Palin is the main Republican who isn't running that hasn't endorsed Romney, that hardly seems like support.

446 posted on 04/16/2012 5:31:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: editor-surveyor
Is the lightning machine down for service today?

Once it kicks in and cleans FR of the Romneyites, it's gonna take down the grid.

448 posted on 04/16/2012 5:33:00 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Romney crowd is stinking up FR. This place needs an enema.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; flintsilver7

And he supports compulsory health insurance in all 50 states which makes him a statist/fascist/socialist and enemy of Liberty just like Obama.

Reagan on compulsory health insurance (RomneyCare):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs


449 posted on 04/16/2012 5:33:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Irish Eyes
"Great chart

I would like to see a chart with Rick Perry on these issues.

To see what we lost.

Oy vey. :::::big sad sigh::::

450 posted on 04/16/2012 5:33:57 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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