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Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
April 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.

Issue Obama Romney Newt
Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America y y n
Defended Roe v Wade as settled law y y n
Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok y y n
Supported planned parenthood y y n
Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion y y n
Supports homosexual agenda y y n
Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy y y n
Ok with homosexuals in Scouts y y n
Ok with homosexuals in military y y n
Supported and still supports global warming hoax y y n
Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban) y y n
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty) y y n
Is undeniable father of RomneyCare n y n
Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare n y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is great! y y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution" n y n
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional y y n
Still believes individual mandate ok at state level y y n
Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights) ? y n
Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there y y n
Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary y y n
Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax) n n y
Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate) n n y
Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year n n y
Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated n n y
Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated n n y
Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits n n y
Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment n n y
Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people n n y
Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry n n y
Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights n n y
Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges y y n
Will challenge activist judiciary n n y
Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up n n y


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KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; election2012; elections; jimrobinson; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newt; obama; obamatruthfile; romney; romneychart; romneyobamachart; romneytruthfile
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To: caww; Windflier; true believer forever; onyx
"So we wind up with a milquetoast duffus, like McCain who handed the election to Obama, who played by the Marquess of Queensberry rules while Obam was pulling out the brass knuckles!... And you somehow imagine Romneyboy or Paulnut might have a chance of taking on the Obama Machine? Oh yea, right...."

I'm not voting for Romney, but I sure won't pull the lever for Newt, and I've said that since before Iowa.

"I honestly don’t care about what happened in Newt’s marriage..... God certainly gave King David a green light so I'd certainly have no problem believing Newt too was forgiven.....further he spoke openly about his repentance"

Let me know when God speaks up for Newt and I'll consider him saved. Until then, I have only Newt's record to consider, and he's only as repentant as a john caught in a cathouse.

"I've never once heard Romney do so...the most you hear from him,on all the childrens blood he has on his hands, is.."I made a mistake"...and even then it certainly wasn't and isn't believable."

Preach to the choir, reverend! I'm not voting for him, either.

"Newt has gone through three marriages. Big deal. At least he married them."

Would it be okay if he married them all at once, so that he could get the FLDS vote, too? A pretty low bar you have for your candidates, that they can be moral degenerates AND flip floppers as long as you like how they talk--this week. John Huntsman is probably kicking himself for not being more of a smartass to the media, since maybe you and other suckers would be shilling for him now instead of crapweasel Newt.

"But I don’t want to marry him...

No, you just want conservatives to jump in bed with him and get as screwed as Newt's ex-wives.

I want to vote for a candidate that will go after Obama with rhetorical claws and fangs,.. brass knuckles and switchblades.... I want a candidate that will eviscerate him and stuff his guts down his lying throat...... I want to elect a president who will save my country for my children and their children — and for me, for however long I have left on this Earth."

Great! Let me know which Newt that is, because next week he'll be sucking up to Pelosi and pimpin' for global warming.

"Additionally....Newt Gingrich was the single most effective Speaker of the House we have had in our lifetime and we lost BIG when they hounded him out of office..... I cannot think of a single individual in this country more suited to be the kind of president we need to move this country away from where it's headed......not one. (Borwrd)"

Pshaw. The most effective speaker we've had in my lifetime was Tom DeLay and you'd know it if you had a clue about the power of local politics and building a deep bench. Newt forgot about that after he got that nice comfy office--the only thing Newt did after he got the Speaker's chair was ride coattails, piss off voters and candidates with his lecturing, and screw around with Callista. Newt's assuming the speakership set the GOP backm and his leaving brought it a resurgence, at least where political wherewithal was concerned (the GOP has never gotten back to conservative governance, and won't until conservatives run the party apparatus instead of the current crop of RNC hacks).

541 posted on 04/16/2012 9:53:01 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (If Newt is a conservative, then a dingleberry is a diamond.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

From your response I can see why I’ve never engaged with you before....must be I forgot....no thanks...not interested...take your spewing to someone else.


542 posted on 04/16/2012 10:04:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: billys kid

Thanks for the heads up...looks like Romney’s trying to jump the gun with this move....not sure he can lay claim without the delegates though. But am going to find out.


543 posted on 04/16/2012 10:07:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“From your response I can see why I’ve never engaged with you before....must be I forgot....no thanks...not interested...take your spewing to someone else.”

ROFLMAO! You’re the one who posted at me, so you’ve no more than shown that you can dish it out but can’t take it. Expect no sobs of sorrow on this end regarding any silent treatment from you.


544 posted on 04/16/2012 10:10:26 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (If Newt is a conservative, then a dingleberry is a diamond.)
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To: billys kid; onyx; STARWISE; Windflier; Jim Robinson

Romney still has to win an additional 483 delegates before he can ‘technically claim the title of the 2012 Republican Presidential candidate.’ So how can he lay claim without them?????

The next slate of primaries are scheduled for April 24th, ....when a total of 231 delegates will be up for grabs across five states. ......After that, the primary schedule picks up again,... with Indiana,... North Carolina and West Virginia ...holding their primaries on May 8th, followed by ..Oregon and.. Nebraska on the 15th, and ..Arkansas and.. Kentucky on the 22nd.

A total of 507 delegates will be at stake in those 12 contests.

With Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul still in the race, it’s possible- even likely- that Romney will not win 100 percent of those 507 delegates.

So how can he go ahead and lay claim to being the Republican Candidate at the NCR meeting?????


545 posted on 04/16/2012 10:13:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

You’re wekcome.

I was reding the newest posts and thought you would be interested. Newt supporters are not happy.

Thanks for the Bible Versrs.


546 posted on 04/16/2012 10:15:33 PM PDT by billys kid (saying that there are too many children, is like saying that there are too many flowers Mother Tresa)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Let me know when God speaks up for Newt and I'll consider him saved. Until then, I have only Newt's record to consider, and he's only as repentant as a john caught in a cathouse.

Wow, interesting take you have on the Cross of Jesus Christ. Tell me something, has God spoken up for you lately? How about Santorum?

You are a cynical and ugly piece of work..

547 posted on 04/16/2012 10:20:11 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: billys kid

Now we’re not...this Romney’s making a chess move now..but I don’t see how he can “officially” claim the winner without the candidates??? This is simply a move to stop this from going to convention...or Santorums’s giving him his delegates..and perhaps even Newt.

I will be truly done with this race if they’re giving it up now. Oh I’ll chat about it now and then...but I’m done if they’re all swinging for Romney.

For now will wait and see what’s REALLY up......


548 posted on 04/16/2012 10:20:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: billys kid

oops! welcome verses


549 posted on 04/16/2012 10:20:32 PM PDT by billys kid (saying that there are too many children, is like saying that there are too many flowers Mother Tresa)
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To: billys kid

No we’re not...this Romney’s making a chess move now..but I don’t see how he can “officially” claim the winner without the candidates??? This is simply a move to stop this from going to convention...or Santorums’s giving him his delegates..and perhaps even Newt.

I will be truly done with this race if they’re giving it up now. Oh I’ll chat about it now and then...but I’m done if they’re all swinging for Romney.

For now will wait and see what’s REALLY up......


550 posted on 04/16/2012 10:21:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: true believer forever

Hold off ....can Romney announce his claim for the win to the NRC without the delegates, which he’s now announced he’s doing this week? Unless Santorum stepped in and gave him his?


551 posted on 04/16/2012 10:24:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: MHGinTN; Dengar01; Impy
>> your candidate, Mitt Romney <<

MHGinTN, I've been posting on FreeRepublic for over a decade. Show me, any time, anywhere, where I EVER announced Mitt Romney was "my candidate" and endorsed him. If you cannot do so, the only liar is you and this conversation is over. Put up or shut up. I will not tolerate having my name smeared as a freeper who "supports Romney" for the Republican nomination when I was one of the FEW posters on here to vocally OPPOSE him over the last five years, including back when it was "popular" to support Romney over McCain & Huckabee in 2008. I have consistently opposed him ever since then, and to this day I would NOT advocate voting for him in the GOP primary. If you persist in purposely lying about who I support for President on this forum, I will have to report you to the mods.

>> I don't believe a word you write now <<

I don't believe a word you write either, and believe your insane incoherent rants might possibly be due to being under the influence of something while you post. Your ranks about the LDS church when I never once mentioned them, and bizarre statements that it's GOOD when Newt flip-flops on global warming (but BAD if anyone else does it!), defy any logic.

552 posted on 04/16/2012 10:42:52 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: LibertarianInExile; Jim Robinson
Anti-Newt, (including fallacious information) pro Ron Paul and RINO, even pro liberal liar Romney. Yep, you're a really good fit here at Free Republic. /s

GOOD that you're in exile. Hope it's far from our shores.
553 posted on 04/16/2012 10:46:17 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

....must be I forgot....


554 posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: billys kid

I’m ready to sign out to call this one a night.

Thanks very much, billys kid!!!


555 posted on 04/16/2012 10:48:28 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

Mw too Good night Onyx.


556 posted on 04/16/2012 10:51:25 PM PDT by billys kid (saying that there are too many children, is like saying that there are too many flowers Mother Tresa)
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To: caww; billys kid; Windflier; The Cajun; DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson; STARWISE; y'all

BUMp and thanks for the pings.

I have read all and I have to sign out.

Literally falling asleep.

Continue on with the good fight.

Romney the Party Leader? Have at it. The sooner the GOP-E goes to He//, the better for us and the TEA Party.

We are the Resistance. Rebellion starts from the bottom up.

We will damn sure vote, you betcha! We will vote TEA Party conservative patriots on all our respective ballots, from the bottom up.

We’ll oust every fossil incumbent RINO and every demonic -rat we can.

Freedom and Liberty are not free, but telling the truth comes natural to us.

We trust in Him, not politicans. Keep praying, and pray for those politicians who also pray and trust in God.

I’m praying for the Catholic convert, Newt Gingrich, who confessed his sins and accepted and worships our Lord and Savior.

Good night, everyone. God bless and Keep you all.


557 posted on 04/16/2012 11:02:28 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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558 posted on 04/16/2012 11:04:28 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Windflier

There are no easy answers’ but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan

I cannot believe Romney’s going to lay claim as the winner to the NRC meeting!! How can he do that without reaching the delegate count?

.......If there’s any question at all in any body’s mind of the utter arrogance and disregard for the voters this man has, and that this is all about what he believes is rightfully due him...then there is no help for those who cannot see this man for what he is!

And His wife is just like him saying.....”It’s his turn”....as if their school children standing in line. She needs to wise up that he lost his turn before and nobody wants him to have another.

This whole Primary might just as well have not taken place....the voters are simply immaterial in “THEIR” election. This is no longer a governance of the people, by the people, and for the people.......we’re just footing the bill for their egos, pockets, and power.

Golly I feel like I live in the Congo!


559 posted on 04/16/2012 11:07:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Hold off ....can Romney announce his claim for the win to the NRC without the delegates, which he’s now announced he’s doing this week? Unless Santorum stepped in and gave him his?

In AZ, there is some sort of RNC meeting of all teh state GOP leaders ON fRIDAY, the ones who really did a lot of the mischief in the primaries. Romney is speaking and the news reports are describing it as the meetin where romney will be given the GOP's cloak of the presumptive nominee... And that cloak is expected to carry much weight..

It's all a shadow dance, but with the establishment it will carry much much weight... it's all settled with the establishment now.. The heroes are just about gone.

STAY STRONG!!

560 posted on 04/16/2012 11:42:04 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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