Skip to comments.Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.
|Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America||y||y||n|
|Defended Roe v Wade as settled law||y||y||n|
|Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok||y||y||n|
|Supported planned parenthood||y||y||n|
|Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion||y||y||n|
|Supports homosexual agenda||y||y||n|
|Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in Scouts||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in military||y||y||n|
|Supported and still supports global warming hoax||y||y||n|
|Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban)||y||y||n|
|Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty)||y||y||n|
|Is undeniable father of RomneyCare||n||y||n|
|Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare||n||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is great!||y||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution"||n||y||n|
|Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional||y||y||n|
|Still believes individual mandate ok at state level||y||y||n|
|Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights)||?||y||n|
|Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there||y||y||n|
|Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary||y||y||n|
|Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax)||n||n||y|
|Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate)||n||n||y|
|Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year||n||n||y|
|Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits||n||n||y|
|Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment||n||n||y|
|Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people||n||n||y|
|Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry||n||n||y|
|Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights||n||n||y|
|Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges||y||y||n|
|Will challenge activist judiciary||n||n||y|
|Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up||n||n||y|
You have already spent your allowance for exclamation marks today. That’s how your post is read:
Mitt Romney, Liar and Hypocrite!
“Romney on Campaign Finance Reform”
Romney campaigning in Burlington, MA, 10/11/94
Commenting on his health care reform law in Massachusetts, Romney told voters in Ohio, Early on, we were asked if what you did in Massachusetts should be something youd have the federal government do? I said no from the very beginning. No. This is designed for our state and our circumstance.
But, as Andrew Kaczynski of BuzzFeed reported,
’ Mitt Romney has taken heat from his rival for a 2009 USA today op-ed touting RomneyCare, including the individual mandate as model for national health reform. But the former Massachusetts Governors op-ed wasnt the only time he thought the President could learn from Massachusetts.’
Mike Huckabee, 2008: Romney Is Not Conservative
Yes, I can see why you need to stop posting on this subject ... you’re obviously running out of exclamation points.
Iwonder how the Cain revolution is doing on the Hill? Has anyone heard?
Where are our other Churchills and Pattons today? Those who speak in Truth are reviled, while those you deny it thrive. Come soon, Lord Jesus.
I fully understand the sentiment. It’s a great short-term solution to vote ABO but a terrible one in the LONG-TERM.
I’m focused on taking back my party. I’m not going to choose between Bad and Worse. At some point we need to take a stand and show our party a little bit of TOUGH LOVE.
Yep, it's pretty clear that Romney feels entitled to 'his turn' at the presidency. It comes through strongly enough that I think a lot of voters are turned off by it. I know that I sure am.
I mean, the man hasn't done or said a single thing in his career to earn my honest support, so why should I vote for him? Because he's got the better marketing team? Because he claims to support the things I do (even though his record indicates otherwise)? Because the alternative (Obama) is "worse"? I don't necessarily buy into any of that.
Romney: "Vote for me because I suck less, and dammit, it's my turn!"
The "Zot Heathers have no sense of humor.
Thank you for posting this document. It makes it lucidly clear as to what would be our moral responsibility before God and country in a situation where we have a clear-cut choice.
Just wondering, are you considering adding any widgets to make it easy to “share” or “like” posts on Facebook so that family and friends would instantly see this and be able to share it with their contacts.
I would think it would potentially grow membership.
Could be true, but he may be who we are stuck with.
So I'd like to encourage you and the others to vote for Gingrich
Our state's primary has already been held. I voted for Santorum, who ended up taking the state pretty handily. Sadly, he has dropped out.
I can certainly pray that Gingrich takes the remainder of the states, but I'm not expecting that to happen. And unless he does that, I don't see any hope for him at the convention.
All else aside, if Romney were to win over Obama, Romney would at least have to posture to set himself up for re-election. Obama doesn't have that restraint if he wins in November.
Romney is bad, but not as bad as Obama, and DEFINITELY not as bad as an Obama second term.
Come to think of it what does the man have any need of...he's laid his claim on the most Powerful Leadership position in the World without the consent of the voters.....now he can declare himself “God” of this Planet. At least the “White-Horse” Savior.
If he does get this...no matter what means used...the people are in for a rude, rude, awakening. The Mormon church will be ecstatic.....the leadership will move their political agenda...and the LDS will claim from the top that their counterfeit Christianity now must be accepted as legitimate Christianity......and the push for acceptance and inclusion of ALL world religions under one governing rule will pick up momentum as never seen before. .
How could anybody possibly say Romney's not as bad as Obama...IMO he is equally so and in certain areas far worse. You think Obama doesn't play by the rules....you've just begun to see that the "Anointed" Romney declared himself the Republican Primary winner which he'll announce this week....without the delegates to support him.
If he'll by pass the good voter of this country...what the heck do you think he'll do with congress or anything else which stands in his way.
The problem is Romneys real political agenda is hidden from view...but I promise people will see it soon enough and it' will be cloaked with the same deceptive mask Romney now wears.
'Fools' follow a Piped Piper....and Romney's baited, bought and hooked those who support him.
Great chart, Jim!
No, he wouldn't. As conservatives have proven time and time again, they'll eventually 'come home' if the establishment holds out long enough.
Romney has a governing record that would make any liberal Democrat proud, and even though there's still a race in progress, AND there's a conservative still running, here we sit, debating over the relative merits of giving the liberal Republican our votes.
If that's all the mustard we've got, then the establishment is absolutely right to take us for granted. The center-right base will fall in line behind the masters, and Romney et al will do exactly as they please - with the full and hearty blessings of the Republican dominated Congress.
Romney has violated every known conservative principle while posing as a Republican, and he will go on to do it again. That's precisely why he's the establishment pick.
Soap box - broken
Mail box - broken
Ballot box - broken
Cartridge box - stockpiled and growing, but so what? Doesn't seem to matter.
I think there’s a hitch in your logic.
>>>If Obama is president and faces Republican control of the House and Senate, they are FAR less likely to vote in favor of his policies because they know theyll catch hell from voters.
Legislation originates in congress. A conservative congress will propose conservative legislation. Obama will veto for certain; party unity and catch hell from voters will fall more likely on the side of Romney signing than Obama.
So, as far as getting conservative legislation passed and signed into law: Conservatives in congress for sure; NoBama even better.
They all say that, and they always mean amnesty.
There appears to be absolutely no one that can pass muster on here. And we wonder why Romney leads against the notMitts?
I really don’t care about a non-Republican “leading”. If I am deprived of voting for a conservative candidate, it is impossible for me to vote at all. No Obamney, no Robama.
Well, unfortunately, we all seem to disagree on who is a “conservative candidate” so it’s No anybody else but Obama.
The point of my previous post is the other poster was against Newt.
All that is going to matter with the next President is who will he appoint to SCOTUS. That court will dominate the USA for at least a generation. Obama will appoint the highly progressive justices as he has already done twice. Romney is somewhat more likely to appoint a conservative. I will take that chance with Romney over the sure thing with Obama.
Romney appoints liberal judges. He’s an abortionist, homosexualist, statist. No thanks!
I am aware of the way bills are passed into law. While bills “originate” in the House and Senate, the President can use his “bully pulpit” to pressure Congress.
My point is that a Republican (especially a liberal one like Mitt) is far more likely to sway a Republican majority in Congress with bad policy than Obama could.
I also think 4 more years of Obama will strengthen the Conservative cause. His first term brought about the Tea Party. Think of what the second term would do.
Up until now, Progressives have been very patient. They’ve made very gradual changes to this country to suit their cause. Obama is screwing that all up by introducing this country to Socialism FAR TO QUICKLY.
I think Obama could be the best thing to happen to Conservatism. :D
you are delusional and assume there will be an America in which a conservative movement can exist much less grow.
The Tea Party redux will involve revolution
Anyone who actually belives that leaving Obama in place is no better than a democrat loser.
There are SCOTUS appointments to consider.
Obama will simply bypass Congress as he is doing now.
Your guns will be removed.
You can kiss sites like FR goodbye because Obama will end them.
Conservatives will get the blame for more Obama and conservatives will have marginalized themselves into oblivion.
This kind of talk is delusional and ridiculous.
Think of what the second term would do.
The first was plenty bad enough for me and imagine what it would be like to say that to a soldier.
I think Obama could be the best thing to happen to Conservatism.
Some on here have gone so far as to say they're going to vote for Obama, I assume based on similar logic.
I see it as a 'rule the ruins' fantasy. And a dangerous one.
So we all write in Newt on 11/6/12, "or else", huh?
It's good to know where we stand. But I admit, I'm giving the idea of a write-in a lot of thought. Unfortunately, a write-in would only work if the entire conservative/Republican base agreed on one; but between Gingrich, Perry, Palin and Paul, there would be too much splintering.
That said, it's not over 'til the fat lady sings, and the convention is still months away.
Well, we each have to do what we think is right. I simply cannot vote third party or not vote at all with Obama in office.
I guess we have to agree to disagree. I can’t vote third party or not vote at all with Obama up for re-election.
In that case, you've got two choices: Socialist A, or Socialist B.
Choose wisely. /sarc
This Primary does NOT have Obama running.....he's not in this race...and for the life of me I cannot understand why those who say they are conservative have already determined to "Not vote third party, not vote at all" as you stated...when there is STILL a Conservative candidate running.....Newt is still running..and even Paul.
This is why I do not give those who say they're voting Romney room at all.....they've gone over to the other side way too early and cannot justify why doing so, unless they weren't conservativve Republicans in the first place...there's still Candidates running ! And they are simply ignoring that fact.
The primary in my state is over. Santorum took the state pretty handily.
I wanted Bachman. I thought Cain/Gingrich would be a great ticket.
But I would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of 0bama. ABO. Anybody But 0Bama.
If this were a conservative site, rather than a necon site, Ron Paul would be listed. Free Republic has fallen so far it’s a shame. A real shame. I’m disappointed in ya Jim.
Well, piss on you. Paul too.
Your problem with FR has been solved.
Go Newt! Come on Delaware!
“Ill vote for Newt over Mitt in the primary, but there is no way Im voting for Mitt in Novembereven if he is the nominee.”
I don’t want Mitt either.....but for heaven’s sake we have to vote for whomever runs against Obama. I would vote for a ‘Turkey in the Straw’ as I will be voting against Obama no matter who runs against him.
At least we would get rid of the Czars and Holder, and so forth.
Ron Paul and conservative don't go together.
The guy who bows down to Jew haters suddenly sounds like he's ready to pick up a gun and fight for the IDF!
1998 but barely ever posted. Odd posting history.
That’s the Great Cat escorting the zottee off the site. [cough] Not very politely, but oh well...
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Well, ya coulda left on your own. Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
But, you're just not that smart I guess. Or, you really wanted to go down in flames. Well then, here they are...