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ABC's 'What Would You Do?' Attacks Michael Savage on...Autism?
News Busters ^ | 4-14-12 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 04/16/2012 3:16:08 PM PDT by dynachrome

ABC's Primetime:What Would You Do? strangely attacked conservative talk radio host Michael Savage on Friday for autism views he expressed almost four years ago.

The following was injected into an eight minute segment dealing with how people respond in a public setting when an autistic child acts up (video follows with transcript and commentary):OFF-SCREEN ANNOUNCER: Now if you're finding it hard to believe that anyone would mistake autistic behavior for misbehavior, listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MICHAEL SAVAGE: I'll tell you what autism is in 99 percent of the cases: it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abc; autism; health; savage
Savage is attacked for questioning the current thinking on autism.
1 posted on 04/16/2012 3:16:23 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: 09Patriot; abigail2; Avoiding_Sulla; BellStar; b4its2late; BootsOfEscaping; Brad's Gramma; ...

Thanks to WilliamofCarmichael for the heads up.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 3:17:36 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

Doc S.’s comments were from 4 years ago.

“and planned to give over his entire show on Monday — broadcast live from Northern California from 3 to 6 p.m., Pacific time — to parents and other callers who wished to disagree with him and to educate him.

And that’s exactly what Savage did, with some callers - including a school psychologist - agreeing with him that autism like so many childhood behavior disorders is overdiagnosed oftentimes for financial reasons”


3 posted on 04/16/2012 3:19:09 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

I was at the Tennessee Aquarium a few years back and there was a family there where a young boy was acting up. At one point he physically attacked his slightly older sister, who just backed up and kind of cowered away from him. I could not help staring and I know I looked shocked. The mom looked at me and screamed that he was autistic (a couple of times). I quit watching, but I felt sorry for the whole group, but especially the girl. It must really stink to have to live with that all the time. Is that kind of aggression common with autistic kids? I think the little boy was around five or so, but he was strong and his blows must have hurt his sister.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 3:23:06 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: dynachrome

One of the worst shows on Tv. ever.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 3:24:35 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: aberaussie

“that kind of aggression common with autistic kids?”

That I don’t know, but it seems like this is one of those disablilty diagnoseses that you can get SSI for, and there is a lot of fraud, IMHO.


6 posted on 04/16/2012 3:27:03 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: aberaussie

Yes, that would definitely stink for the sibling.

There was a grocery store once that I worked at that employed a er.. mentally handicapped young man who would sort of get... familiar with customers, even asking if they’d take him home with them... argh...


7 posted on 04/16/2012 3:29:04 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dynachrome

What a shame Michael Weiner burnt so many bridges among his conservative talk radio peers just to get the liberal audience. Not sure “the golfer”, “Sean Vannity” or “the ‘fake’ lawyer” will have anything special to say on the issue. Maybe the governor of California will run to Weiner’s side, you know - as a payback.


8 posted on 04/16/2012 3:29:43 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

I think he was always more of a pretender. There have been a few fake conservatives on talk radio.


9 posted on 04/16/2012 3:31:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dynachrome
I don't pretend to be any kind of expert. But I have watched a lot of allegedly autistic kids while volunteering at a special school for autistic children. Some kids obviously had something very wrong with them, while others appeared completely normal!

So while I mostly agree with Michael Savage on this, I think he's probably overstating the case. I'd guess around about 50-70% (not 99% as per Savage) of kids claimed to be autistic have been misdiagnosed, or that the word "autistic" is being used as a catch-all term for "we don't know what's wrong with him."

10 posted on 04/16/2012 3:34:46 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: dynachrome
I don't pretend to be any kind of expert. But I have watched a lot of allegedly autistic kids while volunteering at a special school for autistic children. Some kids obviously had something very wrong with them, while others appeared completely normal!

So while I mostly agree with Michael Savage on this, I think he's probably overstating the case. I'd guess around about 50-70% (not 99% as per Savage) of kids claimed to be autistic have been misdiagnosed, or that the word "autistic" is being used as a catch-all term for "we don't know what's wrong with him."

11 posted on 04/16/2012 3:34:46 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: dynachrome

Savage is an absolute DISGRACE when it comes to his knowledge of this subject.

The man is a first class ahole and an idiot.

Signed,
the parent of a boy with Aspergers.

screw that clown.


12 posted on 04/16/2012 3:39:43 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: dynachrome
Is this the beginning of the Obama Administration attacks on talk radio, the Michael Savage Front, that Dr. Savage talked about last week?

So let ABC argue with Dr. Stephen Camarata of Vanderbilt University an expert on autism. His studies support what Savage says.

Why are the willingly-ignorant so confident that they have so much "knowledge" of Savage -- especially if that "knowledge" comes from his enemies and the enemies of America?

Why would parents with autistic children be upset with Savage, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Professor Stephen Camarata of Vanderbilt University all of whom are pointing out the problem of misdiagnosed cases?

ABC can check with Dr. Sowell starting here

Don't any of those MSM pukes know how to do the google?

13 posted on 04/16/2012 3:40:51 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: shhrubbery!

Ever hear of Asperger’s Syndrome?

Didn’t think so.

My son has it. Hang around my house for a day or two and you’ll understand that what appears to be a normal kid - ain’t.


14 posted on 04/16/2012 3:42:54 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The number of fraudulent claims of autism pales in comparison to the ADD/HD scam.


15 posted on 04/16/2012 3:44:47 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: dynachrome
For years mild autism was seen as just a behavioral issue, medium autism as a learning disability, and severe autism as a physical disability.

Now, even the mildest of autism is a diagnosed disease, and all levels of autism are considered disabling.

The same thing happened with ADD. It used to be mild ADD was called "daydreaming", medium ADD while being male was called "being a boy", and severe ADD was called a learning disability.

Now, even the mildest ADD is a diagnosed disease, complete with prescription psychotropic drugs to treat it.

The first question is, how did we make it all these years with undiagnosed mild autism in our midst? Perhaps their parents kept them under control, and later as adults they did not conform, got into trouble, and ended up in the criminal just system.

Others with mild autism, such as Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Edison just went on about their lives.

The second question is, how will we make it with diagnosed mild autism in our midst? The economic impacts of the medical and disability costs will be large.

The third question is, what will be the impact of multiple generations of people who have spent their childhood years on psychotropic drugs on society?

16 posted on 04/16/2012 3:47:34 PM PDT by magellan
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Why would parents with autistic children be upset with Savage, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Professor Stephen Camarata of Vanderbilt University all of whom are pointing out the problem of misdiagnosed cases?

Probably because Thomas Sowell did not approach the issue with the intentions of shocking the audience for headlines to promote his show. A bit of diplomacy goes a long way.

17 posted on 04/16/2012 3:47:59 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: dynachrome
Doc S.’s comments were from 4 years ago.

And he was correct.
18 posted on 04/16/2012 3:48:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I posted your article and is drawing some angry comments.


19 posted on 04/16/2012 3:50:20 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: tsowellfan
What a shame Michael Weiner burnt so many bridges among his conservative talk radio peers just to get the liberal audience.

Huh? He is a legit conservative, and my 2nd favorite radio host. Mark Levin is #1 - ironic considering they can't stand each other. But they both mention illegal immigration frequently, while RINO Hannity rarely does and Rush never does. Savage also raised a ton of $$$ for the defense of the Haditha Marines. Savage was an early basher of G.W. Bush after he tried to push amnesty, and for his pathetic rules of engagement in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many on FR hit him on it, but we later saw he was right.

20 posted on 04/16/2012 3:50:35 PM PDT by montag813
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To: dynachrome
For years mild autism was seen as just a behavioral issue, medium autism as a learning disability, and severe autism as a physical disability.

Now, even the mildest of autism is a diagnosed disease, and all levels of autism are considered disabling.

The same thing happened with ADD. It used to be mild ADD was called "daydreaming", medium ADD while being male was called "being a boy", and severe ADD was called a learning disability.

Now, even the mildest ADD is a diagnosed disease, complete with prescription psychotropic drugs to treat it.

The first question is, how did we make it all these years with undiagnosed mild autism in our midst? Perhaps their parents kept them under control, and later as adults they did not conform, got into trouble, and ended up in the criminal just system.

Others with mild autism, such as Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Edison just went on about their lives.

The second question is, how will we make it with diagnosed mild autism in our midst? The economic impacts of the medical and disability costs will be large.

The third question is, what will be the impact of multiple generations of people who have spent their childhood years on psychotropic drugs on society?

One more thing. This was told to me by a pediatrician who was an expert in ADD. ADD is always hereditary. No child has ADD unless one or both parents has ADD. If neither parent ever experienced ADD symptoms or compensating behavior, and their child is diagnosed with ADD, it is a misdiagnosis.

21 posted on 04/16/2012 3:51:27 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Hammerhead

Just because your child has a legitimate disorder doesn’t mean that there isn’t an issue with other children being misdiagnosed. For example, there are plenty of kids out there with legitimate cases of AD/HD, but there are also a large number who got misdiagnosed with that disorder and medicated. The two things aren’t mutually exclusive, so maybe you shouldn’t get so defensive if people question the current Autism/Aspergers diagnosis explosion.


22 posted on 04/16/2012 3:56:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: aberaussie

My 3 1/2 year old daughter is autistic and she has good days and bad. She has attacked both parents and her 6 year old brother as well as our pets, sometimes very violently. We never know what might trigger her behavior and sometimes there are triggers which lead to seizures. We select when and where to go into public depending on her habits that day but my husband and I have a pretty good routine if things turn while we are out...one of us exits with her while the other stays with our son to pay the bill at a restaurant, finish watching his little league game, etc. Living with the trials of a special needs child eventually becomes your life, you begin to accept the challenges, but I won’t lie it can be very frustrating. She is our angel and we love her and her brother loves her tremendously, but is vocal at his frustrations sometimes which we tell him he has every right to feel and we make sure he is given special attention so he doesn’t fall through the cracks. It is hard for the child, for the parents and siblings. But we know that God gives you what He knows you can handle.


23 posted on 04/16/2012 3:58:13 PM PDT by lilyramone (The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary)
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To: All
RE: my reply above

Here is a discussion that though not by any means presented as "the final word" but I was impressed with the young author's work.. Professor Stephen Camarata of Vanderbilt University is cited in the article. (W/o double checking I will say that it is obvious that Pope John Paul II High School is NOT a public high school) Redefining Autism

BTW, I prefer contumely rather than curse words from those who do not agree with what I have provided. But of course the option is yours.

24 posted on 04/16/2012 4:02:52 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: montag813
Savage was an early basher of G.W. Bush

In the early 2000s Michael Savage took credit for Bush's term "Compassionate Conservatism" and claimed that Bush stole it from him but brushed off the "theft" and was just happy that the President was using it.

I had been listening to Michael Savage before Bush was even President. I know how the chronology goes.

I stopped listening ti him when I noticed him using Keith Obermann's tactic of bashing talk show hosts with much bigger audiences only for the purposes of them mentioning him on their show and perhaps giving Savage a boost in his own ratings. Another thing that turned me off from Savage was his obvious triangulation on issues to get liberals listening. One day he's against gay marriage and the next he looks for and supposedly finds an issue where he can say "I can't blame the gays for not liking the republican party". Monday it's candy for conservatives and tuesday it's candy for the liberals.

25 posted on 04/16/2012 4:06:48 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan
Not sure “the golfer”, “Sean Vannity” or “the ‘fake’ lawyer” will have anything special to say on the issue.

Yeah, I doubt it too. I bet "The Leprechaun" and "The Professor with a Chalkboard" won't have anything to say either.

26 posted on 04/16/2012 4:10:31 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I’m not sure if it was from the same researcher, but I heard about a recent study done in California, where they found that one of the major factors in autism diagnoses turned out to be the proximity to other families with ASD children. Since autism isn’t contagious, and they haven’t found an environmental cause, the conclusion was that this was due to social factors. So, either knowing other children diagnosed with it made parents start recognizing (or thinking that they recognized) symptoms in their own children, or doctors in that area were giving out diagnoses more liberally.


27 posted on 04/16/2012 4:18:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: dynachrome

I’m sure that there are some people that scam the system by claiming that their son/daughter is autistic but it is far too simplistic to assume that the majority of these kids are normal but pretending to be autistic or are being forced into the category just so some lazy teacher can have him/her drugged up so that they are nice little zombies in school. It is not just some social/bad parenting thing that is causing this, these kids ARE damaged as they’ve examined the brains of these kids (that have died in an accident) and they are not normal. Also they have a lot of other things wrong with them physically (usually their digestive track is a mess and their immune system is way out of whack). Like a lot of diseases autism effects these kids differently and so some of them seem almost normal where others will never be able to even go to the bathroom by themselves and couldn’t form a word to save their lives.

Every time this subject comes up there’s a lot of ignorance displayed on this board about this problem and I do wish that those spouting off would go educate themselves but they seem to think they know it all and have no reason to actually look into whats going on with these kids. This is a growing problem with one out of 100 kids now effected, fortunately there are treatments that work for some of these kids and about 50% of them can be made well enough that you either wouldn’t know that they had been diagnosed at one time or you may just think they’re slightly odd. However, the other 50% are never going to be able to function on their own and will need help or be institutionalized when their parents can no longer take care of them.

It may be asking a bit much but try to at least have some compassion for the parents of these kids and stop with the utterly foolish comments as you have no idea how much this disease impacts the lives of those parents with an autistic kid.


28 posted on 04/16/2012 5:05:29 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA
What you say is well spoken and right on.

I cannot imagine anyone rejecting compassion for autistic kids and the families.

The ignorance that you describe and your wish that those spouting off would make an effort to learn however seems a bit puzzling.

I can only speak for myself of course and I can see no harm in pointing out that there are problems with the process of diagnosis. I find nothing wrong with supporting people like Dr. Savage, Dr. Sowell, et al. against critics who condemn them for simply pointing out that fact.

29 posted on 04/16/2012 5:52:35 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Boogieman

I got a real problem with idiots like ‘Doc’ Savage claiming 99% of ADHD/Austic/Asperger kids are nothing more than ‘brats’.

screw him.


30 posted on 04/16/2012 5:52:53 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“I find nothing wrong with supporting people like Dr. Savage, Dr. Sowell, et al. against critics who condemn them for simply pointing out that fact.”

What I condemn is the assertion that the majority of these claims is made up (90%) thats like saying to all these people suffering (and I’m one of them) that you’re a liar, there’s nothing wrong with your kid. Or these ignorant “it’s the parents fault, they spoiled they’re kids, that’s why their acting up in public”. It is probably more like 10% that may be scamming the system but no way more than that as most parents (even in the ghetto) don’t want their kid stigmatized with the “mental or retard” label that special education kids get tagged with. And for those that think it’s just bad parenting, you’re nuts, you just don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.


31 posted on 04/16/2012 6:03:36 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA

Thank you for your statement. I too am tired of defending our autistic child.

Only a complete an utter MORON suggests that our Austic children just need firmer parenting.

Those who suggest it show incredible ignorance and prejudice on the topic.

To suggest its a scam, well, I’d love for you to tell that to the rooms full of desparate parents. Contrary to popular belief you really don’t get much in the way of services or HELP. We are desparate for information, for effective treatments etc. ALL OF OUR CHILD’S CARE HAS BEEN OUR OWN MONEY

So go rag on the parents who let their drug addled, sex crazed little babies run amock on society and quit criticizing Autism.


32 posted on 04/16/2012 6:21:12 PM PDT by 1scrappymom
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To: lilyramone
I have to give you parents with kids who struggle with this a hand. Your life is not easy.

I ran across some information recently that I thought was interesting. I have been researching gluten-free eating, and I found that some parents of autistic children are having some success with gluten free diets for improving the symptoms their children experience. Has anyone here tried that?

33 posted on 04/16/2012 7:09:24 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: aberaussie

My daughter is on a gluten-free diet but we found virgin coconut oil and seaweed extract give the best results. It is difficult to know what may or may not work, most parents I know try anything suggested. Several earlier posts by other parents of autistic kids stated many things well....you want a cure not a handout, you want understanding and compassion from people when in public and we want people who are not interested in helping find answers to step away from microphones.


34 posted on 04/16/2012 7:28:01 PM PDT by lilyramone (The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary)
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To: Hammerhead
Ever hear of Asperger’s Syndrome? Didn’t think so.

Do you always answer your own questions to others? Without giving those persons a chance to answer?

If so, you're assuming a lot. And you know what assuming does...

35 posted on 04/16/2012 8:59:13 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: aberaussie

Gluten free may be helpful for some children with autism. They do have eating/allegery problems. For example my son did not eat red meat until 13. He could not stand the texture or the tasts. As a baby he spit it out. Same as toddler, etc.

Autistic children experience the senses quite differently from “normal” people. Some children can’t stand the feel of certain fabrics on their skin. Most can not stand loud noises. They see the world very differently.


36 posted on 04/16/2012 9:37:07 PM PDT by 1scrappymom
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To: achilles2000

Savage was way ahead of the rest on that scam too. This is about the attacks on his comments about his autism of about 4 years ago, but he’s been warning listeners to the ADD/ADHD scam since at least 1997.

Just thought you should know since your comment didn’t seem to acknowledge it.


37 posted on 04/17/2012 12:49:01 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

I’m not surprised that savage was on top of it early. Thanks.


38 posted on 04/17/2012 3:38:33 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: aberaussie

No,autism doesn’t correlate with violence per se. But when they are young, they will have zero impulse control. Plus they will be overstimulated at an aquarium. Adult people with autism won’t be violent.


39 posted on 04/17/2012 3:53:11 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: GeronL
WWYD? strictly bottom feeds. It stages scenarios that would never, ever happen and from that pretends to make a statement about how people react?

Plus the bald guy always plays the jerk.....not that I am feeling single out or anything. ; }

40 posted on 04/17/2012 3:57:14 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Today is my 54th birthday!)
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To: GeronL
WWYD? strictly bottom feeds. It stages scenarios that would never, ever happen and from that pretends to make a statement about how people react.

Plus the bald guy always plays the jerk.....not that I am feeling single out or anything. ; }

41 posted on 04/17/2012 3:58:05 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Today is my 54th birthday!)
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