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Cruz Brings Tea Party Flavor to Texas Senate Race
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 16, 2012 | Chris Tomlinson

Posted on 04/16/2012 4:24:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Many Republicans view Ted Cruz as the Texas version of Marco Rubio, the Hispanic U.S. senator from Florida whose conservative philosophy and strong oratory skills helped make him a national tea party force seemingly overnight.

But unlike Rubio, who served several years in the Florida Statehouse before winning his Senate seat, Cruz has never appeared on a ballot. The son of a Cuban immigrant got most of his seasoning for next month's Senate primary by arguing in front of the state Supreme Court as the longest-serving Texas solicitor general.

Cruz systematically argues his case to voters as if standing in front of a jury. He jokes about politicians being "blood-sucking parasites" and proof that "invertebrates can walk upright."

"I confess, I'm a TV yeller," Cruz says, laughing about how he reacts to television news. But the joke reinforces his self-image as a conservative fighter, which happens to be what polls say Texas Republicans want.

To tea party leaders, and he has been endorsed by several in his race against Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, Cruz has the conservative background to match the rhetoric. The self-professed child of the Reagan revolution made college money in the 1980s by reciting the Constitution from memory to Houston-area Rotary Clubs and giving speeches advocating free-market economics.

Cruz brags about how his Cuban father fought with rebels supporting Fidel Castro against dictator Fulgencio Batista in the 1950s, before Castro announced that he was a communist. Rafael Cruz fled the country and graduated from the University of Texas at Austin, then moved to Canada to work in the oil fields near Alberta, where Ted Cruz was born. The family eventually moved to Houston, and his father became a U.S. citizen in 2005.

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1 posted on 04/16/2012 4:24:48 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: SwinneySwitch; ExTexasRedhead; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

Ted Cruz would be a great addition to the U.S. Senate caucus. I hope that Texas conservatives are making him a top priority.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 4:27:11 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The thing about Dewhurst is that no one really believes he actually wants to cut government “to the bone”.


3 posted on 04/16/2012 4:36:22 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Cruz will be an infinite improvement over Kay Barely Republican. His main competition, Dewhurst, is an execrable RINO.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 4:37:55 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Romney's judicial appointments were more radical than Obama's)
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To: Clintonfatigued

My husband and I are backing him. We have his signs in our front yard.

I think he is very conservative from all I’ve read and heard about him.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 4:39:45 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Clintonfatigued
For What It's Worth


6 posted on 04/16/2012 4:43:18 PM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Cruz gets my vote.


7 posted on 04/16/2012 4:43:44 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: deport

If Freedom Works likes him he is a good guy.


8 posted on 04/16/2012 4:55:29 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Clintonfatigued

our household is voting Cruz, for the win!


9 posted on 04/16/2012 5:13:21 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: jpsb

He has some name recognition for his capacity as Solicitor General [2003 - 2008]. However they had a debate last Friday in Dallas and a couple of the reviews I’ve seen indicated he didn’t do as well as could be expected. But then keep in mind this is the news media doing the writing.


10 posted on 04/16/2012 5:23:52 PM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I’m working hard to get Dr. Donna Campbell elected for my State Senator in District 25 — to replace that RINO, Jeff Wentworth.

Cruz is not like Campbell. And David Dewhurst is a good, conservative leader who is in large part responsible for the very laws that Cruz takes credit for defending.

Donna has won the endorsement of conservative after conservative, organization after orgaization, because we can tell that, although she’s never held elected office, she’s will be the the ideal citizen legislator.

Why is Cruz defending a Chinese conglomerate after they stole a US citizen’s hard work and technology?

Why did he come out so early with the negative ads attacking David Dewhurst with half truths?

Cruz is rude (even to people who have supported him), inconsistent in some answers, and his own campaign consists of nothing but bashing a man who has served Texas well.

David Dewhurst has the endorsement of Texas Alliance for Life and Texas Right to Life because has proven - over and over- that he’s pro-life.

He’s also a fiscal conservative. here’s the facts
http://www.daviddewhurst.com/fact-check


11 posted on 04/16/2012 5:29:23 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Ted Cruz supports the degenerate cultist coward from Kolob MYTH SLICK WILLARD ROMNEY for POTUS.

He can go straight to hell, dodging whatever planets on the way as necessary.


12 posted on 04/16/2012 5:34:48 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum -Mission Accomplished)
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To: hocndoc

I wonder why it took 11 posts to get to one with anything but baseless attacks on a proven, experienced conservative, David Dewhurst.

Go figure.


13 posted on 04/16/2012 5:39:18 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Rome2000

I had not heard that Cruz is a Romney supporter. There are some other things I had heard that may or may not be true. One, that Cruz, like Romney is a fantastic debater and graduate of Harvard Law School. That Mrs. Cruz holds the position of Goldman Sachs VP. And that the law firm Cruz is currently associated with numbers George Soros as one of its clients.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.


14 posted on 04/16/2012 5:47:42 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Clintonfatigued

I’ll be voting for him when ever they let us vote here in Texas


15 posted on 04/16/2012 6:25:52 PM PDT by WilliamRobert
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To: ngat
You know what the saddest thing in the world is?

A bus full of lawyers driving off a 1000 foot cliff, with one empty seat.

16 posted on 04/16/2012 6:41:53 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum -Mission Accomplished)
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To: basil
I think he is very conservative from all I’ve read and heard about him.

Well isn't that just peachy keen!

He's been in bed with the coward from Kolob since day one.

How do you square that?

17 posted on 04/16/2012 6:46:50 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum -Mission Accomplished)
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To: hocndoc
I’m working hard to get Dr. Donna Campbell elected for my State Senator in District 25 — to replace that RINO, Jeff Wentworth.

I wish you luck. I'm hoping Lamar Smith is booted out as well. Smith is pretty entrenched, and he's a big backer of Romney and Hollywood, so he'll get the money he needs though.
18 posted on 04/16/2012 9:36:59 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

af, you’re wrong about Lamar Smith - and some of that money he’s got is mine (community property).

While I’ve fussed at him for backing Romney (Jim Demint and Marco Rubio back Romney now and Governor Perry evidently wasn’t ready to run the race) and his internet bills, he is a strong, working conservative.

He knows why he’s a conservative and can articulate the issues well. He’s held the media’s feet to the fire by opposing their bias.

His staff have repeatedly gone out of their way to address my concerns. I believe they heard me on HR 1981.

He met with a group of us in New Braunfels last week. Not “the elite,” just regular folks who bought our own lunch in a buffet restaurant. Just wait ‘till he brings Holder back to the House Justice Committee as planned in a week or so.


19 posted on 04/16/2012 10:15:41 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc; ngat; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

Your opinion is in the minority fellas. Texas GOP can and should do better than establishment hack Dewhurst.


20 posted on 04/17/2012 2:14:49 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
then moved to Canada to work in the oil fields near Alberta, where Ted Cruz was born. The family eventually moved to Houston, and his father became a U.S. citizen in 2005.

So what nationality is Cruz?

21 posted on 04/17/2012 5:41:16 AM PDT by TexasSecede79366
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To: TexasSecede79366

This is a good question: What nationality is Ted Cruz?

Another: Why didn’t he support Gov. Perry? Is he brave enough to declare his choice for President?


22 posted on 04/17/2012 7:41:13 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: TexasSecede79366

So what nationality is Cruz?


Cruz was born and spend the first four years of his life in Calgary, Alberta, Canada before his parents returned to Houston, Texas. His father, after fighting for Fidel Castro in the Cuban Revolution and being jailed and tortured by the Batista regime,[25] moved to Austin in 1957 to study at the University of Texas. He spoke no English and had $100 sewn into his underwear.[26] The elder Cruz worked his way through school as a dishwasher making 50 cents an hour. Cruz’s mother, who was from Houston, was the first person in her family ever to go to college. She earned a math degree at Rice University in the 1950s, working summers at Foley’s and Shell. “I’m Cuban, Irish, and Italian, and yet somehow I ended up Southern Baptist.”[2] Cruz is married to Heidi Suzanne Cruz. They have two daughters, Caroline Camille and Catherine Christiane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz


23 posted on 04/17/2012 7:48:11 AM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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To: deport; Impy; ngat; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; af_vet_rr

$100 was a month’s salary in 1957 - maybe more. How did Cruz, Sr. manage to get into and afford UT Austin? Why did he leave Cuba in the middle of the revolution?

Dewhurst,a classic “citizen legislator,” has only been in politics for about dozen years. He ran for office for the first time when he was in his 50’s, winning his race for Land Commissioner in 1998 before he was elected Lieutenant Governor in 2002. Because he’s 65 years old, he will naturally be “term limited.”

Compare these two men:
— Dewhurst was born in Houston, Texas; Cruz in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. (Dual or triple citizenship?)
— Dewhurst’s father fought the Nazis for the US; Cruz’ father fought Batista with Castro.
— Both grew up in the Houston area, but Dewhurst, whose father was killed by a drunk driver when David was only 3, worked while attending Lamar High School, while Cruz attended private schools.
— Both joined the debate teams at their high schools, but Dewhurst did it in an attempt to overcome his stuttering.
— Dewhurst played basketball for Arizona to put himself through college; Cruz went to Princeton and Harvard.
— Dewhurst proved himself in the Air Force and then the CIA.
— Dewhurst is a private businessman who built his company from scratch, surviving the slump in the ‘80’s, and has succeeded outside of politics. Cruz has never run a company and worked in government jobs until the last couple of years.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 11:07:30 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc

Leave it to you to back another damn RINO phony. What is your major malfunction, lady ? Wasn’t pimping La Raza Rick enough for you ?


25 posted on 04/17/2012 11:50:18 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: hocndoc; deport; Impy; ngat; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; af_vet_rr

Obviously, Ted Cruz’s dad must have had his studies funded by Communists. Or maybe Canadians.

And, let’s see, he was a young Cuban who fought against Batista’s dictatorship . . . why would he prefer to move to America in 1957 and go to college at UT-Austin instead of staying behind and facing a government crackdown? He must have been a Soviet mole, I tell ya.

Ted Cruz is a brilliant guy (should he have turned down Princeton University and Harvard Law?), a phenomenal appellate lawyer with ample experience (including arguing cases before SCOTUS) and a principled conservative. So what if he isn’t a private businessman—he was too busy making sure that Texas laws were executed and that Texas’s rights were respected by the judiciary.

David Dewhurst is a go-along-to-get-along, moderate-to-conservative establishment Republican in the Kay Bailey Hutchison mode; certainly less conservative than Rick Perry or John Cornyn (neither of whom is the all-around conservative that Ted Cruz is). And, true, Dewhurst is 25 years older than Ted Cruz (66 versus 41), but why on Earth would we prefer an old moderate instead of a young conservative?

As for Dewhurst’s age providing “natural term limits,” I would posit that Ted Cruz’s talents would provide “natural term limits” as well, since I have no doubt that Cruz will be a candidate for SCOTUS after one or two terms in the Senate (and perhaps even earlier).

I get it, Dewhurst is worth $200 million and thinks that he can buy whichever office on which he lays his eyes. But I’m not impressed. I’ll go with the young, principled conservative whose odds of winning the general are the same 99.99% as for Dewhurst.


26 posted on 04/17/2012 11:55:17 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: hocndoc; deport; Impy; ngat; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; af_vet_rr

Oh, and I forgot to mention, Ted Cruz’s maternal grandfather must have been the drunk driver who killed Dewhurst’s father. I mean, he was Irish-American and raised a daughter who studied math at Rice University, married a Cuban and moved to Canada for a few years while she and her husband were working in the oil industry, so we know he must have been a drinker (and since he married an Italian-American, he probably fought *for* the Nazis). I tell you, that Ted Cruz is bad news, while David Dewhurst could be the next Lamar! Alexander.


27 posted on 04/17/2012 12:10:29 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Cruz is adamant that he doesn’t want to be on any Court. He says he wants to be “a policy maker, not a policy interpreter.” Which is just as well, he hasn’t demonstrated principles in his tactics during this race.

With all his brilliance, surely he could spend his time telling the truth about himself and his plans, but evidently decided that would win his race as well as lying and tearing down the Lt. Governor without a single concrete example.

Wait, you did give us one example, didn’t you? You tell us that Dewhurst has @200 million, reverting to reverse-class warfare.

You’re knocking a man who has his time to serve Texas and the US after serving in the Air Force and the CIA and founding a successful business that survived in the energy business in the ‘80’s.


28 posted on 04/17/2012 12:17:03 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
As a 2nd Amendment supporter, I hope Cruz wins. Cruz did a great job for us with the McDonald and Heller amicus brief, and getting most of the state AG's on board.
29 posted on 04/17/2012 12:18:14 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: Darren McCarty

Aren’t you giving Cruz credit for the work that Attorney General Abbott actually did?


30 posted on 04/17/2012 12:35:08 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Rome2000
A bus full of lawyers driving off a 1000 foot cliff, with one empty seat.

You can't have trial lawyers without plaintiffs hiring them. :)

31 posted on 04/17/2012 12:45:24 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: hocndoc
I read the briefs. They both deserve credit. Abbot green lighted it in his office. Cruz actually argued the case and author the brief. If Cruz did a bad job, it could have impacted the case. 31 states signed on, including mine. GOA endorsed Cruz as well. That tells me a lot right there.

I don't know much about Dewhurst so I'm not going to comment on him one way or the other. I doubt any Texas senator would vote anti-gun, but I wouldn't expect senators to be gun grabbers in Indiana (Lugar) either.

32 posted on 04/17/2012 12:59:02 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: hocndoc

I don’t think that having $200 million is bad at all; I just don’t think it’s enough of a reason to send someone to the U.S. Senate. You, on the other hand, seem to think that being smart enough to be admitted to Princeton University and Harvard Law School is somehow a bad thing, presumably because a lot of liberals attend those schools; but once we establish that Ted Cruz is a conservative (and there is no doubt about that fact), all that Cruz’s schooling says about him is that he is smart and didn’t let any of that Ivy League liberalism rub off on him.

As for Dewhurst’s milqutoast moderate-to-conservative ideology, I don’t think that it is truly necessary to go into detail, but since you insist, here are a few links that prove where Dewhurst stands in the ideologica spectrum:

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/texas-legislature/guest-column-how-conservative-david-dewhurst/

http://madisonproject.com/2012/02/tx-senate-david-dewhurst-is-paling-around-with-democrats/

http://www.timothy-bladel.com/2012/03/us-senate-race-ted-cruz-v-david.html


33 posted on 04/17/2012 1:01:29 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: deport; TexasSecede79366

In other words, Ted Cruz is American.


34 posted on 04/17/2012 1:04:08 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I’m gonna respond to your funny posts attacking Lt. Governor Dewhurst because I like your screen name.

Why do you feel it necessary to attack Dewhurst when you are supporting Cruz? Are you taking your cues from the Romney attack campaign? That is no way to behave when someone tells you why they support one conservative over another.

David Dewhurst is not a RINO. I trust him to represent the interests of the State of Texas more than I do Cruz at this time, one reason is, being told Cruz is a Romney supporter during the primaries is, I think, justifiably concerning. Is it not true?

As regards Cruz, I do like him very much, I just think the jump from where he is right now to Senator is just too big a leap. I just want more proof of his conservative elective office behavior before entrusting him at age 41 with one of Texas two US senate seats. And the senate is not the route to the Supreme Court anyway. That is projecting way too far ahead.

With his brilliant background and education he should be able to write some law that would be bulletproof while representing the Texas congressional district in which he makes his home first. We even have several open house seats due to redistricting this year.

People recognize it’s just not right to attack your own party opponents in the party primaries that way. Why do you think the GOP-e is having to resort to saying essentially VOTE ABO, YOU MUST VOTE ROMNEY to the conservative electorate or the country will fall? It’s a result of the scorched-earth tactics taken in the primaries!


35 posted on 04/17/2012 2:08:21 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat

For the past several years, my preferred replacement for Senator KBH was Commissioner Michael Williams, who declared for the Senate seat in 2009 (since KBH had pledged to resign by the end of that year to concentrate on her gubernatorial candidacy); I supported Ted Cruz for Attorney General, for which he was running because AG Abbott said that he would run for governor (if Gov. Perry didn’t run for reelection) or senator in 2010. Then KBH went back on her word and her seat did not open up in 2010, and Perry ran for reelection, causing Abbott to seek reelection as AG instead, Cruz to defer to Abbott and withdraw from the AG race, and Michael Williams to have to wait until 2012. When the 2012 Senate candidacies began to pop up, I still supported Michael Williams, but was disappointed that either he or Cruz would have to lose; I didn’t have a problem with both being in the race, though, since I figured that it would increase the odds of establishment choice David Dewhurst getting below 50% in the first round and go into a run-off against whichever conservative finished second (either Williams or Cruz), with the run-off’s low turnout favoring the movement conservative over Dewhurst. But Ted Cruz quickly garnered most of the big conservative endorsements, and Michael Williams was not getting any traction, so Williams switched to a House race and I, in turn, switched my support to Ted Cruz in the Senate race.

I have never attacked David Dewhurst; in fact, prior to today, I rarely mentioned his name, except to point out that he is an establishment candidate with a moderate-to-conservative record, as compared to conservative rock star Ted Cruz. I wouldn’t have even posted anything about Dewhurst on this thread had I not felt the need to respond to unwarranted attacks against Ted Cruz, in which he was accused of being a foreigner (while he was born and lived until the age of 4 in n oiltown in Alberta, Canada and his father is a native of Cuba, Cruz is a U.S. citizen from birth and has only had allegiance to one nation, the United States of America), criticized for having a Cuban father who didn’t fight for the U.S. during WWII (which would have been a neat trick, given the fact that he was a child in Cuba at the time), implying that his father was a Communist just because he fought against Batista’s dictatorship (Communists were a tiny minority among those who opposed Batista in the mid-1950s), ridiculing Cruz for having attended Baptist schools instead of public schools and Princeton and Harvard instead of a state school (in another state), dismissing Cruz’s debating ability (he was a national champion) because, unlike Dewhurst, he didn’t overcome a stutter, belittling Cruz’s remarkable success as an appellate lawyer (both for Texas and in private practice) because apparently only people who start oil companies are worthy of admiration, and claiming that Cruz’s relatively young age (he’s 41) made him a dangerous choice because he wouldn’t have to retire due to old age after two terms like Dewhurst. Given that outrageous post about Cruz (particularly the revolting insinuations that his father was loyal to Castro), I decided to reply with a post that was sarcastic at first but then turned serious, and pointed out why so many conservatives across the nation prefer Cruz to Dewhurst. If calling Dewhurst a moderate-to-conservative, go-along-to-get-along establishment Republican is an “atrack,” then I don’t know what to call what has been said about Cruz on this thread.

As for whether or when Ted Cruz endorsed Mitt Romney for president, I can’t answer that; I’ve lost count of the upstanding conservatives (Jim DeMint, Paul Ryan and Rob Portman are but three of them) who have endorsed the establishment moderate Romney because they thought it would help us beat Obama, and I don’t think that such an endorsement means that their conservative record is a façade. Similarly, I wouldn’t say that if a Texas conservative endorsed the moderate-to-conservative establishment choice in the Senate race, David Dewhurst, that it would make such person less conservative.

So that’s the story behind my support for Ted Cruz over David Dewhurst. I have a feeling that the primary will be close and, given other candidates being on the ballot, no one will get 50%+1 and Dewhurst and Cruz will go on to a run-off a few weeks later. May the best (and most conservative) man win.


36 posted on 04/17/2012 3:09:37 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Your links are more of the lies.

The first is a classic example of “lies, damn lies, and statistics.” Jones, a complete liberal quack published in a liberal Soros-funded rag, decided to make a wild guess about Dewhurst.

Note that he doesn’t call Dewhurst a moderate — he says he’s more moderate than the top 3 that Jones deems to be Conservatives.

Jones *guesses* that Dewhurst must be moderate — only in comparison to the top 3 Conservative Senate Republicans -— because of who casts votes that agree with the winning side on “Final Votes to Passage.

But get this: The way that your source measures “Liberal/Conservative” for the Senate is so skewed that Wentworth comes out in the top half/ middle third on Conservative Republicans. http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/texas-legislature/guest-columnist-how-partisan-are-texas-state-senat/

If the man can’t tell that Wentworth is a RINO in spite of actual votes on the floor, he certainly can’t tell anything about Dewhurst who doesn’t cast votes.

That second story is one of the catalysts for my switch from Cruz to Dewhurst. The Cruz team spread what they knew were falsehoods from the beginning — and Breitbart.com was forced to sheepishly withdrawn the day after it was filed: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/02/24/update-dewhurst-campaign-says-podesta-group-meeting-was-no-fundraiser There was no fundraiser, Republican staffers of a PR firm hosted the meet and greet for Republicans, no Dems, in a building that is often used for similar events — with no Podesta in sight.
This sort of tactic makes me ashamed that I supported Cruz in the first place. That was why I sent money to Dewhurst and blogged on the race: http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/texas-legislature/guest-columnist-how-partisan-are-texas-state-senat/

The third refers to Dick Army’s endorsement. Army is the one who said that Dewhurst relied on “daddy’s money.”


37 posted on 04/17/2012 3:19:24 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I posted whole, careful truths. No implications, except in your mind. I simply said “compare.” can’t help it if you don’t like the comparison.
Cruz is the one who uses his father.

Odd how a man who became a politician at 51, has served well as a conservative, became “establishment.


38 posted on 04/17/2012 3:26:31 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc

Here’s that first post on Dewhurst:
http://wp.me/p1FiCk-yW


39 posted on 04/17/2012 3:55:24 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Unless we can get Gingrich nominated, I bet you’ll be wishing that you only had one “La Raza” disagreement with the nominees and winner on November 6th.

Have you ever followed even one bill through the House and Senate in Austin? Did you go to the Capitol to testify? Have you spent days in the Galleries or watching debates on line?

I’ve had several one on one conversations with Cruz. He would probably have to answer “no” to the above questions. He’s clueless about the process. He has no background except debating and arguing. He has no clue what a Legislator does.


40 posted on 04/17/2012 4:02:38 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc

Yeah, you posted “comparisons,” not “implications.” Right. Let me try to post some “comparisons” as well:

“Ted Cruz fought the Obama Administration before the U.S. Supreme Court, while David Dewhurst did Obama’s bidding by making sure that TSA agents continued to grope passengers at Texas airports.”

“Ted Cruz’s father has been a stalwart opponent of Communism for more than five decades, while David Dewhurst’s father fought on the same side as Soviet Communist troops during the 1940s and never spoke out against the Communist takeover of Cuba.”

“Ted Cruz’s father took an oath renouncing his Cuban citizenship and adopting U.S. citizenship, while David Dewhurst’s father never took an oath renouncing Soviet citizenship.”

“Ted Cruz and his family worked to pay for his education, while David Dewhurst mooched off of taxpayers for his schooling.”

“Ted Cruz’s father supports his son’s Senate campaign, but David Dewhurst’s father has not spoken out in favor of his son’s candidacy.”

Those are just “facts,” with no implications, except in your mind.


41 posted on 04/17/2012 4:17:17 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Impy

I won’t call you red, but I will say you don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to your assessment of who is in the minority, and whether or not Lt. Governor Dewhurst is a “hack”. He most certainly is not that.


42 posted on 04/17/2012 4:26:19 PM PDT by ngat
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Sure, except the first one. The Senate passed the TSA bill in the Special Session. They were very successful with many other laws during the regular and special session - when every lobbyist in Austin kept saying that nothing would happen other than the budget and redistricting.

You don’t have anything to support your attacks - other than the comments about what Dewhurst’s dead father didn’t do?


43 posted on 04/17/2012 4:39:17 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc
af, you’re wrong about Lamar Smith - and some of that money he’s got is mine (community property).

While I’ve fussed at him for backing Romney (Jim Demint and Marco Rubio back Romney now and Governor Perry evidently wasn’t ready to run the race) and his internet bills, he is a strong, working conservative.


He supported Romney in 2008, and he supported him once again in May of 2011, before we knew what the field would be. Smith could have waited a few months, seen how things would shape up, and make his decision, but there was no hesitation on his part to support Romney, and he has said in interviews that he is, and I quote, "comfortable" with supporting Romney.

Furthermore, his "internet bills" as you call them, are about as evil and non-Conservative as you can get, and belong in China, not in the United States of America. The man was paid off by Hollywood - it's right there in his donation listings.

When people spoke out against Lamar Smith on SOPA, his response was that he would just have to wait and push it through at a later date. That is NOT what a Conservative would do.

We've went around on this a few times, and nothing you can say can erase Lamar Smith's early support of Romney and nothing you can say can erase Lamar Smith's attitude that he and Hollywood know what's best for the internet.
44 posted on 04/17/2012 7:32:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: hocndoc; AuH2ORepublican; ngat; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
. How did Cruz, Sr. manage to get into and afford UT Austin? Why did he leave Cuba in the middle of the revolution?

Who the bleep cares? What is Cruz's father running for? This is like that idiotic argument I heard someone make that Rick Santorum's grandpa was a commie.

This is a good question: What nationality is Ted Cruz?

This a lame question. Cruz was born in Canada to an American mother. I could at least understand you getting your panties in a bunch if was running for President but he's not.

And Ngat, sorry why don't you read the comments on this thread. Freepers are for Cruz and against the Cornyn Clone (at best!) Dewhurst, citizen legislator my hind. You and Hocndoc and maybe one other poster on this thread aren't. That's the dictionary definition of a minority. So you better come up with a different line than "you're mistaken" if you can't bring yourself to accept that obvious assertion. And what the hell are you doing asking Auh2oRepublican why he is "attacking Dewhurst" when you are attacking Cruz (with the Goldman sachs and Soros crap "not that there's anything wrong with that"). It's called politics, Mitt Romney didn't invent it. The difference is that Dewhurst deserves to be attacked like any other weak Republican and not one argument against Cruz made on this thread is anything but a bunch of horsecrap nonsense.

45 posted on 04/17/2012 7:44:36 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Again, you have nothing to back up your attacks on Lt. Governor Dewhurst. Nothing but groundless assertions.

And do see Cruz as a guy with a great future in the conservative movement if he will prove himself. He is just trying for too much, too soon. Just exactly like why Santorum flamed out.

And many times I have seen posters jump on the bandwagon of some unproven, appealing candidate, while just assuming the worst about a guy who has actually walked the conservative walk.

And who are you to call me on “attacking” Cruz, calling it “horsecrap nonsense” when all I did was ask if it is true what I heard that Cruz is a Princeton grad and Harvard Lawyer, if his spouse is a Goldman-Sachs VP, and if his Law Firm numbers George Soros as one of its clients?

I would think some people would be proud of all that. If true, why deny it? If it is not true, why then it surely is “horsecrap nonsense.” Is it true, or isn’t it?


46 posted on 04/17/2012 8:14:31 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat

Uh huh, you and your 1 or 2 buddies have fun. This is a conservative forum. Why don’t you shill for Dewhurst on the Hannity forum or some other such place where you can find less politically intelligent folks who will agree with you.


47 posted on 04/17/2012 8:24:00 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

That’s what I thought.

Your have NO answers to the reality of what was brought up.

No answers to the questioning of why you have made false accusations against Lt. Governor Dewhurst.

As far as your idiotic theory that Dewhurst supporters are in the minority in the Republican primary, you shall see May 29 how wrong you are.


48 posted on 04/17/2012 8:36:40 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat
In not interested in writing an essay for you slick. Read what conservative freepers think about your boy. If you don't know what's wrong with him it's your own damn fault. When I used to quibble with Romneybots before they were banned years ago they would whine in the same way.

As far as your idiotic theory that Dewhurst supporters are in the minority

Republican primary voters AT LARGE are not necessarily politically savvy, they may very well fall for Dewhurst's act. I'm talking people HERE at FR who are for the most part more intelligent than average. You and 1 other guy are the only ones shilling for Dewhurst that I've seen. And don't expect us conservatives to let your bull go unanswered. If you don't like it, tough, you're the small minority.

49 posted on 04/17/2012 8:45:39 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; ngat

Impy, it appears that you care very much. I was just curious, because it seems as though Cruz only tells a bit of the story.

Your comments about Dewhurst are just statements of opinion, nothing but pure emotion.

There is no evidence that Dewhurst is not conservative and the success of the 82nd Legislature is evidence of his leadership. Did you watch him in 2003 when the Dem Senators ran away to New Mexico? He was unyielding.

What is your definition of citizen legislator? Dewhurst served in the Air Force, then the CIA, then started a very successful business. After turning 50, he ran for Land Commissioner, then for Lt. Governor. Now, he’s running for State Senator - and probably won’t serve more than one term.


50 posted on 04/17/2012 9:26:22 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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