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Retired DPS trooper fatally shoots drugstore robber
chron.com ^ | 16 April 2012 | Mike Glenn and Erin Mulvaney

Posted on 04/17/2012 5:54:34 AM PDT by smokingfrog

An armed robber who took a drugstore guard hostage Monday was shot and killed when he confronted a retired Texas Department of Public Safety trooper, now a security official for the north Harris County business, authorities said.

The masked robber jumped the unarmed security guard about 2:15 p.m. inside the QVL Pharmacy at 850 FM 1960 near the North Freeway.

"At gunpoint, he forced (the guard) to open the security door going to the back of the pharmacy," said Sgt. Ben Beall with the Harris County Sheriff's Department's homicide squad.

The robber passed several customers in the front of the store. He also pointed his pistol at the pharmacist and told him to open the safe where the drugs were being stored, authorities said.

"He ordered them to load the narcotics into his backpack," Beall said.

The robber demanded hydrocodone and other pain medication, detectives said.

"It looked like he was prepared to take a pretty good haul out of the business," Beall said.

Also inside the store, however, was a plainclothes retired DPS trooper, now working for the Dallas-based company's corporate security department. He was making a check at the store when the robbery happened.

"He wasn't even aware that there was a robbery going on until they were already in the back," Beall said.

The robber pointed his gun at the retired trooper, who pulled out his own weapon and began shooting.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; houston; pharmacyrobbery
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1 posted on 04/17/2012 5:54:45 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog
"The masked robber..."

Body armor might have been a better choice.

2 posted on 04/17/2012 5:59:54 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: smokingfrog
The robber pointed his gun at the retired trooper, who pulled out his own weapon and began shooting.

Whoa. It can take one to three seconds to draw and fire your weapon. And to do that when your opponent already has their weapon pointed at you is either suicidal or really gutsy.

3 posted on 04/17/2012 6:00:32 AM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: smokingfrog

With the record numbers of gun sales and CCW permit applications, being a criminal is likely to become an increasingly hazardous activity.


4 posted on 04/17/2012 6:01:49 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: John123

Unless you’re a *really f-a-s-t* draw -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqABkG1JpHM


5 posted on 04/17/2012 6:12:57 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: John123

Maybe the bad guy, a drug addict possibly, thought that he had all the power in the situation. I’m guessing he was too messed up to think clearly or react to things well enough to survive. Obviously the retired cop made that guess too and acted on it.

I would not advise playing cards with this guy for money.


6 posted on 04/17/2012 6:18:59 AM PDT by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: John123
Whoa. It can take one to three seconds to draw and fire your weapon. And to do that when your opponent already has their weapon pointed at you is either suicidal or really gutsy.

Depends on how far away the bad guy is.

Keep in mind that most bad guys don't spend much time at the range. If the bad guy is more than 10 feet away, it's unlikely he'll actually be able to hit his target, while somebody who practices can hit HIM from across the store.

Also keep in mind the element of surprise. The bad guy was probably frozen in shock that somebody drew on him.

7 posted on 04/17/2012 6:20:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: John123
Whoa. It can take one to three seconds to draw and fire your weapon. And to do that when your opponent already has their weapon pointed at you is either suicidal or really gutsy.

Actually there are plenty of people who can draw and fire under a second. It was proved by demonstration back in the 1960s that some people could draw and fire, while facing an armed perp with hammer cocked and gun pointed, before the perp could fire his/her weapon. Saw it done more than once back in the day.

8 posted on 04/17/2012 6:31:01 AM PDT by calex59
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To: smokingfrog

Good job, troop.


9 posted on 04/17/2012 6:31:44 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: smokingfrog

Notice in the story that “the robber” is not identified in any way. No name, age, race, etc. I wonder why? Was “the robber” really just trying to obtain some Skittles?


10 posted on 04/17/2012 6:44:34 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: John123
Just because that is the way it was described doesn't mean the retired trooper didn't move to cover first, then draw his weapon, then engage the suspect.

You are correct. Attempting to pull a gun on somebody holding a gun on you is usually suicidal.

11 posted on 04/17/2012 6:44:38 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: smokingfrog

The masked robber jumped the unarmed security guard about 2:15 p.m. inside the QVL Pharmacy at 850 FM 1960 near the North Freeway

Unarmed security is about as useful as tits on a boar.


12 posted on 04/17/2012 7:07:28 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: John123

Watch their eyes, they’ll tell you what they’ll do next.


13 posted on 04/17/2012 7:39:44 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: John123

Watch their eyes, they’ll tell you what they’ll do next.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 7:40:05 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: A. Patriot
Notice in the story that “the robber” is not identified in any way. No name, age, race, etc. I wonder why?

Perhaps it's no longer necessary just like they discontinued reporting that a victim was dead upon his death. I mean, some things are a given ;-)

15 posted on 04/17/2012 7:51:22 AM PDT by varon (The patriots stand watch!)
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To: varon

Good shooting, Citizen. Civilization thanks you.


16 posted on 04/17/2012 8:05:55 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: calex59

Worlds Fastest Shooter — 8 rounds in 1 second
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DpCellB_UQ


17 posted on 04/17/2012 8:09:53 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: John123

if it takes someone three seconds to draw and get off a round a little range time would be recommended


18 posted on 04/17/2012 8:46:29 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: John123
The robber pointed his gun at the retired trooper, who pulled out his own weapon and began shooting.

Don't believe everything you read.

19 posted on 04/17/2012 9:04:17 AM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: A. Patriot

Could “skittles” be a street name for drugs?


20 posted on 04/17/2012 9:17:19 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: smokingfrog

“The masked robber jumped the unarmed security guard about 2:15 p.m.”

Geez, isn’t wearing a mask like wearing a hoodie? Are we sure the poor “victim” wasn’t profiled? /s


21 posted on 04/17/2012 9:19:15 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: meatloaf

Could “skittles” be a street name for drugs?


Could be since the police didn’t find any at the scene. It was the family lawyer who brought that up.


22 posted on 04/17/2012 9:35:27 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: Paladin2

I’ll bet his mother doesn’t even mourn the ‘loss’...


23 posted on 04/17/2012 9:36:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: smokingfrog; Squantos; humblegunner

One robbery, one Ranger.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 10:08:23 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Economical.
No incarceration costs, no legal costs, minimal investigation.

I like it fine.

Somebody buy that DPS guy a beer.


25 posted on 04/17/2012 10:21:46 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: riverrunner
Unarmed security is about as useful as tits on a boar.

An excellent simile. I wonder if the retired trooper will now re-evaluate the usefulness of unarmed security at his employer's drug stores.

26 posted on 04/17/2012 10:25:41 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: riverrunner
Unarmed security is about as useful as tits on a boar.

I also like to go for the twofer and use alliteration along with the simile: "as worthless as tits on a tomcat".

27 posted on 04/17/2012 10:27:51 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: John123

I never accept the story line. What really happened is probably not what the reporter wrote. Most likely, the retired police officer fired at a time that was safer for him, such as when the robber turned or shifted his eyes somewhere else.


28 posted on 04/17/2012 10:30:03 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: smokingfrog

I wonder if the retired DPS officer had been a Texas Ranger?

Be that as it may, it sounds like this robber was a bit more orderly than most that pull drugstore heists.


29 posted on 04/17/2012 11:45:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: Larry Lucido

If we had a nickle ....


30 posted on 04/17/2012 11:53:21 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: USNBandit; John123
Attempting to pull a gun on somebody holding a gun on you is usually suicidal.

I don't know how proficient State Troopers are in Washington state, but here in Texas you do not jack with Department of Public Safety troopers. DPS officers are the best of the best. I have no doubt even a retired trooper could react faster than some stupid criminal. Where do you think Texas Rangers come from?

As was stated in this thread: One robbery, One Ranger, Adios One dead criminal!
31 posted on 04/17/2012 11:54:19 AM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: lormand

AND if you were carrying and saw a robbery in progress, you would be inclined to retrive your weapon and wait for the right opportunity, which killing the perp without anyone else being harmed proves was the ‘right moment’ to shoot. I practice tat a lot and I find it comforting to know that the reaction time of someone holding a weapon in the open but not in the act of shooting is longer than someone intent to shoot and shoot decisively.


32 posted on 04/17/2012 11:58:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: oneolcop; John123
Hatcher drew his weapon and made himself known. Detectives say the robber pointed his gun at him so he fired three rounds. One went through the front window.
33 posted on 04/17/2012 3:12:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: oneolcop

That’s a more likely version.


34 posted on 04/17/2012 9:19:54 PM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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