Posted on 04/17/2012 8:20:13 AM PDT by maddog55
Ted Nugent is hitting the pavement for GOP president hopeful Mitt Romney. The rocker called for attendees of the National Rifle Associations convention to go out and recruit thousands of people to vote for Romney in the coming election. Nugent said, Our government is wiping its a with the Constitution. During an on-site interview, he also told the crowd, Weve got four Supreme Court justices who dont believe in the Constitution. Does everybody here know that four of the Supreme Court justices not only determined you dont have the right to keep and bear arms, four Supreme Court justices signed their name to a declaration that Americans have no fundamental right to self-defense? That sounds like a stoned hippie. That doesnt sound like a Supreme Court anything. The musician went on to say: If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year. A representative for Nugent didnt immediately respond to a request for comment.
I’m with you Ted!...If this disaster gets re-elected it’s over for America as we know it!
... says knee-jerk panicked "conventional wisdom." And "conventional wisdom" is usually an oxymoron.
Set fear aside, muster courage, and think clearly. If Obama is re-elected with a ridiculously low plurality -- it could even be 34%, or 66% of votes cast IN OPPOSITION TO HIM, then four more years would be more difficult for Obama than for America because limited government conservatism will have won a major battle in the Republican party, ALL opposition to Obama in BOTH parties would be empowered, and Congress would go HARD RIGHT in the mid-terms.
On the other hand, if Romney won, Congress would go left, we'd still get nationalized health care, abortion on demand funded by WE the taxpayers, cap-and-trade global warming eco-tyranny, the homosexual agenda shoved down our throat, and a 75% probability of activist liberal judges on the SC. But that's the LEAST of what would happen under Romney: Because he was a Republican elected by Republicans, moderates and liberals in the Republican party AND Democrats would become more powerful, and the only source of opposition to big government statism, GOP conservatives, would be squelched.
STOP panicking and START THINKING.
I wish we were getting somebody besides Romney; and if the Republican establishment succeeds in cramming him down our throats and, like John McCain, he limps to defeat, it’ll be too late to revolt against the RNC. Maybe already is.
NO YOU don't get it. According to many here at FR, four more years of obama, is less important than NOT voting for Romney, because his a lying CINO.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Vote principles in the primaries, and practicality in the general. It not like your personal salvation; it's ok to pick the lesser of two evils in the general election
Personally, I think much of the anti-Romney ado on FR, at this point, is due to the fact that some people made comments thinking Mitt had no way of winning (oh, if only it would have been...sigh)and now they are stuck either voting against obama (by voting for Romney), or looking like hypocrites.
” Depends on if we can hold the House and re-take the Senate. That’d go a long way toward reigning the POTUS in.”
They have done next to nothing so far.
Excuse me. It's the people who have allowed themselves to become frightened into blind panic by attributing Godlike powers to Obama who are being irrational and who need to calm down.
Unless they do, they'll be voting TO make the Republican party adopt liberal positions on all the major issues. Now THAT, my FRiend, is the opposite of rational.
Voting for Romney in the general is the antithesis of practical, unless you are thinking of practical suicide.
In this part of the world, it eventually would lead to you being roommates with George Zimmerman.
Put ‘em in charge of the DEC. Seriously.
CSM: Youre right. You DONT get it.
I get it: CSM, like many conservative Republicans, has allowed himself to be manipulated by fear into voting FOR all the things he is against. I think GJMY and I get it pretty well.
How is it that I don’t get it, but am in agreement with you.
I have one issue and one issue only that concerns me this election and it IS OBAMACARE. If the USSC does not overturn the legislation, then we MUST get BO out of office. If they do overturn it, then I won’t be so apt to fight with my fellow FReepers.
Obamacare is a liberty stealer in the range of the Income Tax, SSIP and th WOsD all rolled into one! If we do not get rid of it now, then we will never get rid of it and we might as well just outlaw elections anyway.
I was teasing...sarcasm, don't ya know :-)
Not a chance. Romney has made some awful mistakes, and has some awful positions, but there's simply no way that he is as bad as Fauxobama. I'm am seething mad at the lack of choice that we have (and will still vote for Gingrich in the TX primary next month, regardless of whether he's in the race or not), but Fauxbama is the enemy. Just like the US allied with the Soviet Union in WW2 to get rid of Hitler, so must conservatives ally with Mittbots to get rid of Fauxbama. Just like we got rid of the Soviets over the ensuing years, so we will get rid of the Mittbots and restore our Republic - but we must first survive as a modestly free nation before we can do that.
Yeah, Romney rots - but he's not Fauxbama. Besides, if we have a reasonably solid conservative majority in Congress, we can stop the worst aspects of Mitt's liberal tendencies. He, unlike Fauxbama, has some respect for the law and won't be issuing Executive Orders all the time in order to undercut the Congress and all of us. He's at least somewhat persuadable - unlike the Manchurian Candidate in the WH.
If you could go back and get rid of the politicians that brought us the Income Tax, or the administrations that brought us SSIP, Medicare, Medicaid and the WOsD programs, would you do it?
Obamacare is all of that rolled into one giant liberty stealing program. Yes, Mitt MIGHT do something, but we all know that Obama WILL do something. He already has. If the USSC does not overturn it, then we MUST repeal it now or it will never be repealed.
I prefer to play russian roulette with one bullet in the chamber instead of filling all of the chambers.
Exactly right. I
It's funny the Nuge said he's be dead or in jail if Obama is re-elected; Ann Barnhardt said pretty much the same thing over the weekend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vwLvDVdJXnE#!
She said, "I don't expect to survive the Obama regime."
Well said! I agree completely with your whole post! The success of the next four years still falls on the shoulders of the tea party movement and that job will be easier without Romney in the White House.
Doh, my apologies. Your post was to accurat!
You say Mitt might do something? THIS IS THE MAN WHO DESIGNED AND IMPLEMENTED THE MODEL FOR OBAMACARE! Hello???? Observation indicates that it's probable that his vanity and pride are as wrapped up in seeing it pass as Obama's. Romney's registration as a Republican is a beard that, sadly, few are willing to allow themselves to see through becasue they are so blindly fearful of Obama, and they are paralyzed with fear because they have fallen for all the hype attributing omnipotent powers to Obama. But because Romney is a Republican, HE would have the greater power (and would very likely use it) in destroying limited government conservatism, which is the ONLY political defender of our freedom.
The most substantial thing better about Obama than Romney, is that Obama is a Democrat.
Romney has a long, documented record of PROMOTING liberal policies on the five major issues -- cap-and-trade, nationalized health care, subsidized abortion on demand, activist liberal judges, and the homosexual agenda.
And it's just SAD to see folks here hanging on to the ridiculous hope that "If we can just maintain a conservative majority in Congress, we can hold Romney's feet to the fire." Yeah -- and if we can just talk enough sense into cats, we can get them to love going to NASCAR races.
Fear makes people do stupid things -- like vote to surrender everything the Republican party needs to DEFEND.
AMEN! And thanks for your moral support, Brother FReeper!
I truly believe he is an instrument of God's judgement on this nation, in the same way He allowed evil kings to rule in OT Israel and Judah.
That is NOT an unreasonable hope, it is a distinct possibility. However, it is also a guarantee that anything passed out of that conservative congress would be vetoed by Obama.
Obama has committed, oh 50-100 atrocities since he was elected. Name ONE that the Republicans in the House & Senate have stopped or really fought?
2 SCOTUS communists?.....on down the line.
Fast& Furious?....100 times bigger than Watergate....snooze.ZZZZZZZZZZZ
Good point, may even be accurate..
The point is... America has the givernment they deserve.. NOW..
ELSE; they would elect another one.. i.e. Occams RAzor..
Unless the voting process and mechanism has been thoroughly corrupted..
Then its the same thing only different for allowing it to happen..
The Unions are drinking Americas blood like a VAmpire..
The debacle in Wisconsin is pitiful.. tragic really.. even the police and firefighters are corrupt..
Simple solution -
if you’re in a state considered to be up for grabs,
vote for the GOP candidate against 0bama.
If you’re not, vote your conscience.
Voting for Romney is bending over for the fascism of the government establishment choosing the president, instead of “government of the people, by the people, and for the people”.
God could have also made Hitler drop dead like Ananias and Sapphira if he did not fit His plans.
See Romney elected, and make the same post replacing Obama's name with "Romney." It's irrelevant.
In the event that the general is O vs R, the SANE thing to do is to vote third party so that whichever socialist statist wins, has the most debilitating plurality possible, which would weaken him politically and empower his opposition -- a good thing whether it was Obama or Romney.
If your answer to "Who can take down Obama in November" starts with the name "Willard"... You aren't changing sh*t...
I respectfully disagree. In the primaries you do your damnedest to get your man at the top of the ticket. My guy didn't win.
Now, if you are saying that given the two presumptive choices, that obama is a better selection, then I am going to say that you are wrong. America can survive 4 years of Romney (despite his liberal foibles), especially if Congress is nominally conservative in nature in both houses; a very real possibility. In fact, he's such a wind sock, politically, that I think he can be nudged to the right a bit. He may even be conservative-lite for four years, just to sick his thumb in people's eyes.
Even if Congress goes red, an obama victory will result in more irreparable damage to the very core of America's character. I am not certain the country can weather that; as a whole our nation lacks the character and morals to prevail such challenges.
You want to show conviction this fall? Take up arms and rebel against the tyranny of the Federal Government. Put your life and liberty on the line, and really fight. Go all in.
Otherwise, not voting for obama in a way that defeats him is not conviction, it's vanity. It's putting personal dislike of Romney's CINO tendencies above the future of the country. Opting out of the voting process, at this juncture is abdicating the field to the enemy when un-neccessary, as far as I am concerned.
Vote how you want; honestly at this point it doesn't rally matter to me. America is going to get exactly the type of governance it deserves. My personal convictions are such that I can weather what ever comes my way, and I won't have to do it alone..
Sad but true.
>Give me Romney...or Give me death! ?
Ouch! / LOL
Bingo!
“Otherwise, not voting for obama in a way that defeats him is not conviction, it’s vanity.”
Well said.
You're mistaken in that assessment, and you insult me to boot. Indeed, may I respectfully suggest that your quickness to attribute my motives to "personal dislike" and vanity, rather implicates your own flawed assumptions.
It ain't rocket science to understand that when you vote for liberalism, you get liberalism. It seems to me those who urge voting for Romney are in wholesale denial of that simple truth.
With liberal, moderate Romney a) triumphant and b) the defacto head of the GOP, politicians in the Republican party will have GOOD REASON to figure going left will benefit them more than going right. Romney's history reveals no nudging, but a decided proclivity for bigger, more intrusive government, and should "moderate" prevail AGAIN in a GOP election, you can bet that Republicans will be nudged leftward, In fact, to think the party might move RIGHT with a Romney administration is wishful fantasy.
Chicken Little hyperbole aside, it is totally up in the air as to what four more years of Obama might bring, especially if he was re-elected with such an anti-mandate as a 34% (best case scenario) plurality. It's anybody's guess as to how much damage he could do when a clear majority voted against him and simultaneously conservatives won a major battle in the GOP by defeating Romney.
On the other hand, there's no guessing -- it is logically certain that Romney in the White House would make liberalism more powerful in BOTH parties.
... an obama victory will result in more irreparable damage to the very core of America's character.... yet THINK further: The damage can ONLY be repaired if the country moves right; A Romney victory would amplify Obama's damage by making liberalism and statism's source the Republican party as well as the Democrat party.
Romney would effectively castrate conservatives in their own party, and the moderate wing would CERTAINLY constantly be reminding thee and me and all other conservatives: "Listen up, we moderates are the reason the GOP even has the White House, so you'd better shut up and sit down because WE won."
Again, this isn't rocket science or wishful thinking, it's common sense.
I've made it clear, and will continue to urge, that the SANE thing is to VOTE AGAINST LIBERALISM because when you vote FOR liberalism, you get liberalism. Guaranteed. I want patriots who understand that the real enemy is statism and liberalism, to avoid opting out of voting, and instead to figuratively crawl over broken glass to vote AGAINST liberalism by voting against both Obama and Romney, as they are both liberals. Patriots who vote such will weaken the political viability of whichever statist wins.
You want to show conviction this fall? Take up arms and rebel against the tyranny of the Federal Government. Put your life and liberty on the line, and really fight. Go all in.
Please translate for me. What are you proposing?
Thank you. :^)
You're both wrong. Conviction and vanity are out in left field, and the fast ones are flying right over your head. Voting to weaken and defeat LIBERALISM is the only way we're going to conquer the monster. Obama is a symptom, not a cause. You want to see disaster? Picture the next Democrat president that would follow Romney. As Obama made Clinton and even Hillary seem palatable, the Democrat to follow left-statist Republican Romney would make Obama look like Richard Nixon. Think it through.
” “A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.” — George Bernard Shaw “
4 more years of Obama, and the majority will be Pauls.
Shut up and sing.
If you think leaving Obama IN power, weakens the left then you are mistaken. He will strengthen the left with choking regulations, he will seat more judges, etc.
We must establish a conservative stronghold in both houses of congress to legislate conservatively and we MUST remove Obama from office with the hope that the executive fiats (i.e. regulations) can be mitigated.
It’s a bit suspicious. What is sure, with the Gibson Guitar take over, Obama and his ilk are out to try to get a monopoly on artists by taking down whomever liberal is not compromised by his communist circle of thugs and gangsters.
This is an artistic genocide and is a very grave situation. I hear John Lennon was murdered after considering voting for Reagan...
If Obama is allowed monopoly over art and TV, then anyone attacking an artist or what not, McCarthy style, will be pilloried.
I support Nugent and it might be a cry from the heart. THis is a courageous move, but we have to be careful how or where it leads us.
Obama is self declaring himself as the Sponge Bob messiah, and he is the same psychopath homosexual leftist prostitute who would get jealous at good looking strippers’ wealth. Watch this angry spited muslim leftist f@g. He is up to no good and aims to destroy the “competition” for his little bureau biscuit.
You have clearly skipped any consideration of the logical consequences of Romney versus the logical consequences of a greatly damaged Obama opposed by the majority in a plurality win. It seems you, like so many, are so paralyized with fear that you can only contemplate a supernatural-Obama-centric view of things, which is as unbalanced as a solely Romney-centric view of things. You should consider BOTH long and carefully, and weigh the differing sums.
That you conclude a plurality-elected Obama, openly and definitively opposed by the majority of voters and facing a victorious conservative movement in the GOP after having defeated poisonously liberal Romney, who is essentially IDENTICAL to Obama in his political philosophy AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE RECORD, would do anything BUT weaken liberalism IN BOTH PARTIES, indicates limited appraisal of the whole.
If Romney is the President, you can kiss ANY hopes of having a "conservative stronghold" in Congress goodbye. If you want to know the future, look at the past. The worst loses for conservatives in Congress have been with a liberal, moderate Republican in the White House.
Romney is BAD NEWS from every angle. Voting for him is every bit as nuts as voting for Obama. VOTE ABOOR.
bfl
Sounds to me like he’s right on target.
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