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Posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by Williams

Well it's been about 13 years forgot my initial sign in name, so pretty much from the beginning.

Never wanted to write a Free Republic Opus, love reading news stories here and commenting every day.

Would rather not go out in anger seems pointless.

Then today the owner of the site called me a RINO (I'm not), surrender monkey (not) and told me to write my opus and get out.

My sin was fighting with someone who suggested Obama losing in the latest poll is "bad news".

I could list all the insanity of what is going on here. I've tried to approach Jim Robinson in email to gently suggest the problems we are facing. It's clear from that he is not interested in discussing and resolving anything, which is a shame.

But what kind of man, American, conservative will I be if I worry more about losing my 12 year old screen name versus standing up to people who are espousing the advisability of reelecting Barack Hussein Obama, and yes if I fail to stand up to the owner of a site for calling me a liberal when I am a proud conservative?

What Jim Robinson is doing cannot work because first of all he is NOT attacking the posters who say it is best to reelect Obama. He's offended by anyone who says he is thereby supporting Obama. But he doesn't mind calling us names when we attack the pro Obamas.

OK folks, it's not going to work. You can't really oppose Obama's reelection if you may also oppose the republican's election.

Free Republic has become a house divided against itself and it cannot stand.

I'm a conservative I love my country, I have to wish away to the cornfield anyone who would assist in the reelection of Obama, from whatever misguided motivations.

I stand with Dick Cheney. The other day I had to fight with someone disparaging Cheney here. They were not criticized by the owner.

Jim Robinson owes me an apology. Not planning on getting one. The sad fact is I am not writing this because I'm offended. It's because I want to no longer assist here in the destruction of my country by those who will, to varying degrees, assist in Obama's reelection.

Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court? Maybe atomic destruction down the pike after our disarmament. Israel destroyed. 2nd Amendment neutered. Obamacare used to deny people medical care based on age and political beliefs. Racial strife. A welfare socialist state. US attorneys going after republicans.

My wife is a cancer survivor who reasonably fears that in the future they will deny her care because she is a registered republican. And she's no RINO, she hates Obama and she won't read Free Republic stories anymore because of what is going on here.

We have a real country and real lives out here that go beyond Jim Robinson's ill advised name calling against sincere conservatives who dare to disagree with him.

So F anyone who calls me a RINO for standing with Dick Cheney and against Barack Obama. I hate RINO's and I despise misguided so called conservatives who do anything to reelect Obama.

13 years, but it's nothing when put to the wall on my beliefs against the left wing democrat party. I have too many mirrors to look in. The people here who are every day posting that it will be best to reelect Obama, should be thrown off. Instead, well...

It's over.


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To: fish hawk; Jim Robinson

NOTE: This is directed at not only at fish hawk but a lot of other potential Romney voters. (You all know who you are)

You see folks, THIS is what is making us angry:

“...don’t go bitching here in “13” about how bad Obama is ruining our country because you helped put him there. “

The very idea, the INSULTING accusation that because we refuse to vote for Romney because YOU say so, WE are going to be responsible for Obama. WE are going to be responsible for the downfall of the country.

Well guess what pal? That’s BULL!

And of course the ever popular “Well, you go ahead and vote for Obama” insult.

And the also popular “you must want Obama to win” insult.

Or even “You must be a socialist” insult.

It is all insulting and THAT is the problem!

I have not seen anyone booted for admitting they are afraid of Obama and that they will vote Romney if he is the Republican candidate. I do recall more than one freeper directly insulting JR in one or more of the ways I just described. (Jim can correct me if I am wrong.....courtesy ping included above)

If you are convinced the world will end if Obama gets in again, then fine, do what you will.

But stop insulting the rest of us because we refuse to go along with YOU.


251 posted on 04/17/2012 8:41:30 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Velveeta

You ducked, now ducked again and explained nothing.

Nothing is on my head. I have a conscience, principles and the ability to one day stand before my maker and say “I did not support the man who sent you all those vaccu-sucked babies in little bitty pieces.

You, having free will, are free to make that choice. And your vote for Romney means that the big guy will continue to get returns in the stork hangar.

So tell me how knowingly voting for that is conservative.

This is truly pathetic. How many excuses can you ABO types come up with? Just admit it. Abortion is OK. Gay rights, Global Warming laws, eco mandates to stop drilling at all are ok. Admit it. Because even if you cannot bring yourself to do so, your vote SAYS you are OK with all that when you votw for the man who promotes it. If you were not, then you simply would not cast it that way. Period.


252 posted on 04/17/2012 8:41:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Velveeta
A conservative will be running. I will vote for him/her. Regardless of party.

And the ones responsible for an Obama win will be the fake conservatives that enable the GOP in their cheating ways to push a liberal that many won't vote for.

Blame them. And yourself, since you enable the liberal wing of the GOP with your vote.

I'll bet you voted for Dole, too.

/johnny

253 posted on 04/17/2012 8:42:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye
Who wins is irrelevant to me. Both are evil.

A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.

254 posted on 04/17/2012 8:44:52 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: Ramius
"Romney is a pathological compulsive liar. Lie after lie papered over with more lies. Doesn’t even flinch when caught in bald faced lies, simply tells another big whopper to cover up or dodge the issue.

He cannot lie his way out of his decades long record of support for abortion, Roe v Wade, planned parenthood, gay rights, gun control, global warming, amnesty, liberal judges, big government, compulsory or socialized health care (RomneyCommieCare), mandates, Keynesian economics, support and approval of TARP, bailouts, stimulus packages, i.e, every damn liberal progressive issue that comes down the pike."

Reagan was nothing like that.

255 posted on 04/17/2012 8:45:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: DB

God has a whole book explaining that you fight “All” evil. Not greater or lesser to various extent.

One cannot vote for a lesser evil without having forwarded the goals of evil. But one can choose willingly to not promote any evil via their vote. And there are about 50 million eligible people in this country to vote for that do not harbor Mitt Romney’s brand of evil.

Choose wisely.


256 posted on 04/17/2012 8:46:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TonyInOhio
How is voting third party on the Presidential line going to identify us as conservatives angry enough at the GOP to vote for someone else?

It won't.

What will is voting the presidential line and voting for conservatives down-ticket. Change is grass-roots, bottom-up.

We have to teach people to distinguish between turf and astroturf.

-PJ

257 posted on 04/17/2012 8:46:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: SCalGal

Exactly.


258 posted on 04/17/2012 8:47:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

“An anti-Romney thread is a pro-Obama thread. “

More horse hockey.

Stop insulting us.


259 posted on 04/17/2012 8:48:16 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’m not pushing for Romney. I really don’t care for him much. I won’t be voting for him, so much as I’m terrified of a second, lame-duck term for Obama. If Obama is re-elected we’re done. We are already crossing the threshold of 51% voting themselves the largess of the public treasury. It may already be too late. But if we have another Obama term, I seriously think we won’t be able to recover.

I think that’s something worth considering.


260 posted on 04/17/2012 8:48:40 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Nik Naym
Well said. Those that pound the table have no facts. The same lame straw-man arguments keep being brought up by the pro Liberal Romney vote.
261 posted on 04/17/2012 8:50:18 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: what's up

Why resort to childish tactics like those used on the left?

Mitt Romney is, by his own definition, a moderate left of center so-called Republican.

Just because political figures in the party get behind the nominee doesn’t mean they’ve thrown their beliefs out the window. Everyone with a brain knows Cheney is a very rock solid conservative. He’s also high up enough he’s backing his party. Fine. I’m sure if he’d like to be frank he’d also admit Mitt isn’t his #1 choice.

But to confuse the issue by trying to defend Romney as “not a RINO” because true conservatives are now rallying behind the nominee is sophomoric.

Or worse, doing a “nana nana boo boo” saying “well Cheney and Ryan and Pawlenty and blah blah blah” are supporting Romeny so they must be RINO’s too! And what bounces of me sticks to you!

Grow up and debate like an adult.


262 posted on 04/17/2012 8:52:27 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Velveeta; Norm Lenhart; Jim Robinson
It’ll be on your head and those who choose to not vote Anti-O.

Hysterical straw man mule muffins.

I live in Utah. I'm voting for Sarah Palin. If Romney is the republican nominee, he'll take MoTown handily. And don't be calling me a RINO. I'm not a republican. Never have been.

263 posted on 04/17/2012 8:52:55 PM PDT by glock rocks (optimist , pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: DB
Take abortion. If your choice is between two abortionists where one wants to kill the baby after it is born if unwanted and the other does not there is a difference. Yes, they are both evil. That's the reality of life.

That is a perfect analogy of the choice between 0bama and Romney. Both are pro-abortion and have voted for pro-abortion measures.

264 posted on 04/17/2012 8:54:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Ramius

no one is demanding perfection.

Romney is not even moderate but a leftist.


265 posted on 04/17/2012 8:54:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SCalGal

Well some people better start growing up around here.

Humans are not capable of not doing evil at one level or another. We are imperfect and sinners all. If the requirement is not being involved with evil the only way to comply is be dead.


266 posted on 04/17/2012 8:56:06 PM PDT by DB
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To: Ramius

He was pro-abortion, a former democrat, a union president... Not to mention a mere Hollywood actor. Clearly a RINO.

Careful there, Sparky.

Without context you risk insulting one of America’s finest ever presidents and a hero to a lot of good people here.


267 posted on 04/17/2012 8:57:17 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Ramius

It is worth considering. But a vote based on fear is a recipe for disaster. If we are so far gone as a country that we ‘have’ to elect a rabid liberal or a rabid marxist, I would suggest that America, as in the America you and I knew and loved, is already over.

My America, If I am honest, died a long time ago. Is what remains, the country we live in today going to be returned to constitutional governance by electing a man who refuses to follow it or the other man who refuses to follow it?

It’s time to stop ‘hoping for change’ and accept the fact that we will only change it for the better if we stop lending our vote, and thus the power, to the people who do NOT want to change it.

It’s going to hurt, it’s going to suck. But you do not get positive results when you run the same flawed experiment 100 times. And Ben Franklin addressed the ‘security’ of ‘buying time’ issue 200+ years ago.


268 posted on 04/17/2012 8:57:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jim Robinson
Frankly, if you ask me, those who complain and practically demand you run YOUR site the way THEY see fit are showing their true self - statist.

They can go post anonymously anywhere they choose or find some other blog site to espouse. And eventually I'm sure they'll whine about the rules there also.

269 posted on 04/17/2012 8:58:00 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Fledermaus
And what bounces of me sticks to you!

And that sounds really adult................

270 posted on 04/17/2012 8:58:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
This is truly pathetic. How many excuses can you ABO types come up with? Just admit it. Abortion is OK. Gay rights, Global Warming laws, eco mandates to stop drilling at all are ok. Admit it. Because even if you cannot bring yourself to do so, your vote SAYS you are OK with all that when you votw for the man who promotes it. If you were not, then you simply would not cast it that way. Period.

You just don't get it. You think there will be a snowball's chance in hell of ever overturning Roe v Wade with a majority liberal Supreme Court? You think gay rights won't be the law of the land with a liberal majority Supreme Court? You think Global warming LAWS, eco MANDATES banning drilling won't be the law of the land with your flexibility president?

Go ahead and stand by your principles. If CommieO is elected again, let's touch base in a few years and see how it'll all be working out for ya.

271 posted on 04/17/2012 8:58:25 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: Nik Naym
An anti-Romney thread is a pro-Obama thread. “

That is exactly it. and from there it will progress to any anti-individual mandate thread being a pro-Obama thread and any anti-abortion thread is a pro-Obama thread and any critical comments about AWB is a pro-Obama comment and so on and so forth.

These posters are no longer conservative. They want to avoid the truth and suppress facts about their own preferred candidate. That is exactly what happens when you abandon your principles.

272 posted on 04/17/2012 8:59:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
no one is demanding perfection

Heh. You're high. :-)

273 posted on 04/17/2012 9:01:37 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

It is worth considering. But a vote based on fear is a recipe for disaster. If we are so far gone as a country that we ‘have’ to elect a rabid liberal or a rabid marxist, I would suggest that America, as in the America you and I knew and loved, is already over.

My America, If I am honest, died a long time ago. Is what remains, the country we live in today going to be returned to constitutional governance by electing a man who refuses to follow it or the other man who refuses to follow it?

It’s time to stop ‘hoping for change’ and accept the fact that we will only change it for the better if we stop lending our vote, and thus the power, to the people who do NOT want to change it.

It’s going to hurt, it’s going to suck. But you do not get positive results when you run the same flawed experiment 100 times. And Ben Franklin addressed the ‘security’ of ‘buying time’ issue 200+ years ago.


274 posted on 04/17/2012 9:01:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: fish hawk

Not voting for Romney being a vote for Obama is as stupid as believing not wanting Hitler to win WWII is support for Stalin.

FDR believed that so I guess you are like him. See how stupid analogies can easily be made?


275 posted on 04/17/2012 9:02:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Fledermaus; norwaypinesavage
An anti-Romney thread is a pro-Obama thread. “

There it is.

The next step.

Any and all comments that shed a bad light on leftwing Romney must be stopped! Wow.

That is where it is headed.

Pretty soon they will be descending on posts and articles that shed bad light on the individual mandate, abortion, gay agenda and whatever else to condemn it as helping Obama in some way.

It's coming. Wait for it. (or not)

They want Free Republic to abandon its conservative principles to schill for the leftwing Romney.

276 posted on 04/17/2012 9:04:17 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Osage Orange

Google “sarcasm” or “pointing out absurdity by being absurd”. Geez.


277 posted on 04/17/2012 9:06:29 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Velveeta
You just don't get it. You think there will be a snowball's chance in hell of ever overturning Roe v Wade with a majority liberal Supreme Court? You think gay rights won't be the law of the land with a liberal majority Supreme Court?

Where in Romneys' illustrious and leftwing record do you see any evidence he will appoint non-liberal justices to SCOTUS???

What possible reason would he have to change?

Let me guess.... you will "pressure him"?? The same people who voted for him and would vote for Stalin with an R next to his name, NO MATTER WHAT, is going to somehow "threaten" or "pressure" to move to the right??

lol. They got your number. They already got your vote no matter what they do, what kind of pressure will they ever feel from you?


You hae abandoned your conservative principles and for some reason you want Free Republic to do the same. Will that somehow make that emptiness in your soul feel better?
278 posted on 04/17/2012 9:09:08 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Velveeta

I totally get it. You think that conservatism is situational and to advance it, you must abandon it.

I totally get that you ducked and did not answer some uncomfortable questions that would have, had you chose to answer them honestly, destroyed your entire argument.

Bottom like. Ronald Reagan did not abandon his principles. Nor did every other icon of conservatism. Each of those men achieved greatness for the country. The men who abandoned conservative principles, the Nixons/Fords/GW1/and even !!’s of the party did not.

Levin and Hannity and whatever other ‘conservative’ are likewise abandoning conservatism, taking it off like soxks until after the election. I get that too.

Go ahead and join them. I sleep well at night. And if Obama goes full Marxist and trucks me off to a camp, I’ll sleep well while I live there too. Because I did not leave the REPUBLICAN party. It left me.

Ron was no dummy.


279 posted on 04/17/2012 9:10:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Then have the moral courage to actually vote for Obama, and not just let it happen by acquiescence. I can’t do that.

It may be that we’re already too far gone. I’ll keep stockpiling ammo no matter who is elected, as long as I can.


280 posted on 04/17/2012 9:13:47 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

Well, we did get the perfect LIBERAL


281 posted on 04/17/2012 9:14:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ramius

If we don’t vote for the socialist we must be for Obama??

That is retarded.

Then again, the schills for Romney would have to be.


282 posted on 04/17/2012 9:16:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ramius

“Then have the moral courage to actually vote for Obama, and not just let it happen by acquiescence. “

And ANOTHER one throws us an insult.


283 posted on 04/17/2012 9:16:45 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Ramius
Nope. I'll vote for a conservative.

/johnny

284 posted on 04/17/2012 9:17:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Ramius

No, I have the moral courage to vote for a person I believe in, not cower in fear of Barry. Nor cower to n\the mechinations of the GOP.

I cannot believe we are at the point where someone on FR can say with a straight face what you Just did.

“Then have the moral courage to actually vote for Obama, and not just let it happen by acquiescence.”

The only people ‘acquiescing’ to anything are the Romney voters. The rest of us are fighting against both.


285 posted on 04/17/2012 9:17:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GeronL

Sorry pal, I’m still here working for Newt as I have been since he announced.

As I’ve said before, I’ll vote for a ham sandwich to ensure my anti-O vote.

There are freepers here stating that they’ll vote for O to teach the GOP a lesson. And I get reamed. LOL What a world.


286 posted on 04/17/2012 9:21:07 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: GeronL

There will be two choices. Unless you get to vote in some election I don’t know about... To not vote for one is to grant a vote to the other. It’s pretty simple math.


287 posted on 04/17/2012 9:21:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Velveeta

What idiot said that?


288 posted on 04/17/2012 9:22:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Ramius
Then have the moral courage to actually vote for Obama, and not just let it happen by acquiescence.

"Vote for a RINO, push a RINO on FR, post insults, accusations, lies and use fear mongering tactics on those who resist going along with RINO tyranny, you are a RINO." - Jim Robinson

Hmm, I think he got it right.

289 posted on 04/17/2012 9:22:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Fledermaus
But to confuse the issue by trying to defend Romney as “not a RINO”

I didn't defend Romney as "not a RINO". On the contrary, on some issues he likely is.

What I'm addressing is the belief that not voting at all is somehow righteous because Obama and Romney are the same. Cheney, Cantor, DeMint, Rubio, Backmann, Nugent, Ryan, etc. are thankfully not of this mindset...they know that Obama is the far greater danger and so will take appropriate action to ensure that he and First Wookie don't get power again to control our lives.

290 posted on 04/17/2012 9:23:05 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Ramius

50 million will stay home.... who gets those votes?

You= MORON


291 posted on 04/17/2012 9:23:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Norm Lenhart

No you’re not.


292 posted on 04/17/2012 9:23:52 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

“There will be two choices. Unless you get to vote in some election I don’t know about... To not vote for one is to grant a vote to the other. It’s pretty simple math.”

Have you actually ever voted in an election before?

I am beginning to think you have never seen an actual Presidential Election ballot.

Because this is clearly NOT how it Works.


293 posted on 04/17/2012 9:24:16 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Ramius

“There will be two choices. Unless you get to vote in some election I don’t know about... To not vote for one is to grant a vote to the other. It’s pretty simple math.”

It’s no math I ever saw. No logic either. Nor is it an either or proposition. How does my vote for Newt, not Mitt,

lease explain.


294 posted on 04/17/2012 9:25:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Randy Larsen

Hey! Watch yer language there sonny- this has been a family site until people with foul potty mouths showed up !

Wretch!


295 posted on 04/17/2012 9:25:17 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I have repeatedly answered your questions.

You go ahead and sleep well. In the meantime, I’ll go back to working for Newt in the morning. The rest of you keyboard conservatives can chat amongst yourselves.


296 posted on 04/17/2012 9:25:17 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: what's up

Care to name one issue that Romney hasn’t been a complete liberal on?


297 posted on 04/17/2012 9:26:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Velveeta

You keep repeating that lie. It does not make it true.

Very liberal of you.


298 posted on 04/17/2012 9:26:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TigersEye
Here is your quote I was responding to:

I won't support Romney but I don't know that he will not still win. And it doesn't matter. The result is irrelevant when I don't want either choice. The only principle I stand on is that I won't support evil and I have not been reticent to voice that and defend it.

You made that statement, so you must have wanted to convey some meaning to the readers.

Your first sentence says "I won't support Romney but I don't know that he will not still win". That is clearly true -- but do you WANT him to not win? If your argument is "I won't support Romney, but he will still win, therefore I am not helping Obama", then you would be claiming to act on principle because it doesn't matter. If you are saying that you don't care if he wins, then your principle about your personal choice, and not about whether Romney is good or bad for the country (because if you are arguing Romney is bad, then you should care whether he wins or loses).

If your statement is simply to claim that you don't know the future, we agree about that, but it is a non-sequitor, since your "not supporting Romney" either has meaning or doesn't, and if your "not support" isn't meant to effect an outcome, it isn't much of a position.

"The result is irrelevant if I don't support either choice" -- If it is irrelevant to you, then in fact you don't "not support" Romney, you are instead "indifferent" to Romney. OK, you don't personally "support" Romney, but you don't actively oppose him either. I shouldn't be so rude -- maybe that's all you really meant, that you could care less whether Romney wins or loses, that you don't really oppose him, you simply don't support him.

But it seems your statement meant more than simply "I don't care who wins". Still, your "indifference" clearly means you don't care if Obama wins. Which isn't really different from not opposing Obama, just as if you don't care if Romney wins suggests you don't actively oppose him.

Your last sentence -- "The only principle I stand on is that I won't support evil" -- sounds sincere, but seems to lack application. Thus my analogy, to see if you could give a practical application. In WW2, the USA supported evil, in the form of Stalin and Russia, in order to fight what the USA thought was the greater evil, Hitler and Germany and the Holocaust.

If your principle is that you won't support evil, then would you have opposed our alliance with Russia? Or would you support an alliance with one evil in order to halt a greater evil? I would note that someone else already used the Hitler/Stalin analogy, so I'm not introducing it, just seeing how you would apply your "principle" about not supporting evil when there are two evils and supporting one can stop another.

It would be principled to say that you wouldn't have supported Stalin. It would also be principled to say you would support Stalin to stop Hitler. Maybe you have a 3rd way that lets you avoid moral dilemnas.

Or, you could just resort to childish name-calling so nobody understands what you really believe. Although why anybody would do that in a forum designed to espouse their opinions is beyond me.

299 posted on 04/17/2012 9:26:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Please stop trying to turn Free Republican into a Republican cheerleader site.

Free Republic is a conservative site.
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Romney is a liberal.
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Pretty simple math


Just because many of you are willing to abandon your principles doesn’t mean you should ask the rest of us to do it. Let Free Republic be that ONE place on the internet where conservative principles REIGN over schilling for a party or a candidate.

Thank you.

Like I said, vote how you like. Stop trying to accuse us of supporting Obama because we disagree. That just makes you a stupid jerk.


300 posted on 04/17/2012 9:27:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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