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Posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by Williams

Well it's been about 13 years forgot my initial sign in name, so pretty much from the beginning.

Never wanted to write a Free Republic Opus, love reading news stories here and commenting every day.

Would rather not go out in anger seems pointless.

Then today the owner of the site called me a RINO (I'm not), surrender monkey (not) and told me to write my opus and get out.

My sin was fighting with someone who suggested Obama losing in the latest poll is "bad news".

I could list all the insanity of what is going on here. I've tried to approach Jim Robinson in email to gently suggest the problems we are facing. It's clear from that he is not interested in discussing and resolving anything, which is a shame.

But what kind of man, American, conservative will I be if I worry more about losing my 12 year old screen name versus standing up to people who are espousing the advisability of reelecting Barack Hussein Obama, and yes if I fail to stand up to the owner of a site for calling me a liberal when I am a proud conservative?

What Jim Robinson is doing cannot work because first of all he is NOT attacking the posters who say it is best to reelect Obama. He's offended by anyone who says he is thereby supporting Obama. But he doesn't mind calling us names when we attack the pro Obamas.

OK folks, it's not going to work. You can't really oppose Obama's reelection if you may also oppose the republican's election.

Free Republic has become a house divided against itself and it cannot stand.

I'm a conservative I love my country, I have to wish away to the cornfield anyone who would assist in the reelection of Obama, from whatever misguided motivations.

I stand with Dick Cheney. The other day I had to fight with someone disparaging Cheney here. They were not criticized by the owner.

Jim Robinson owes me an apology. Not planning on getting one. The sad fact is I am not writing this because I'm offended. It's because I want to no longer assist here in the destruction of my country by those who will, to varying degrees, assist in Obama's reelection.

Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court? Maybe atomic destruction down the pike after our disarmament. Israel destroyed. 2nd Amendment neutered. Obamacare used to deny people medical care based on age and political beliefs. Racial strife. A welfare socialist state. US attorneys going after republicans.

My wife is a cancer survivor who reasonably fears that in the future they will deny her care because she is a registered republican. And she's no RINO, she hates Obama and she won't read Free Republic stories anymore because of what is going on here.

We have a real country and real lives out here that go beyond Jim Robinson's ill advised name calling against sincere conservatives who dare to disagree with him.

So F anyone who calls me a RINO for standing with Dick Cheney and against Barack Obama. I hate RINO's and I despise misguided so called conservatives who do anything to reelect Obama.

13 years, but it's nothing when put to the wall on my beliefs against the left wing democrat party. I have too many mirrors to look in. The people here who are every day posting that it will be best to reelect Obama, should be thrown off. Instead, well...

It's over.

TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aobtd; defeatobama; fourmoreyears; goodfreepergone; jimrobinson; nooooooo; opus; suicidepill
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The best answer I can give you is this. Each of us has to do what they feel is right. I personally would have gone it without Russia, had I been in charge and added a few historical nuke drops to the war time roster. Prior to that, I’d have fought to the best of my ability.

Back to today, I see an evil man. One who has made baby parts a $50 menu choice on the healthcare menu. I see an evil man that has pushed ‘gay rights’ on a people that do not believe such exist. His laws have resulted in evil being done to straight people, legally, financially and morally. I see an evil man that has pushed an eco agenda that has led to financial catastrophe, suicide by people pushed over the financial brink, people frozen to death unable to afford his green heat and people baked to death unable to afford green air conditioning.

And I see an evil man that dispite all that and more, so called Free Republic Conservatives are tripping over themselves to vote for, should Newt fail.

I see no logical, moral or rational way one can vote for such a person and claim with a straight face that they are trye blue conservatives doing some ‘better’ thing for the country.

I would note that history is littered with examples of a people in fear of the current wolf running like sheep toward the protection of the new wolf in leader’s clothing. And again, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

Best answer I have.

361 posted on 04/17/2012 10:21:33 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thanks, I’m catching on. LOL

362 posted on 04/17/2012 10:22:28 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: TigersEye
You’ve done it now. Now that I know you’re a statistician with HTML skills I’ll be recruiting you for projects regularly. LOL

It's done with a Greasemonkey script written by a freeper.Click one button on any FR page, and you get the report you saw. Sometimes it is kind of interesting. I thought the average freeper age on this particular thread was pretty high.

cynwoody - Free Republic

It rocks.

363 posted on 04/17/2012 10:23:46 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: TigersEye
would have been great

Never said it would have been great.

But I do believe we would not have had the disgusting sexual scandals in the Oval Office or 9/11.

364 posted on 04/17/2012 10:24:43 PM PDT by what's up
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To: All
Ann Barnhardt at Liberty First
365 posted on 04/17/2012 10:25:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: what's up

That is assuming you could read the future and know who would follow a second Bush I term.

366 posted on 04/17/2012 10:27:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Don't forget what happened in the Virginia Republican primary, the Mitt vs. Paul only primary!
367 posted on 04/17/2012 10:27:37 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Charles, I will say what I say every time we get into it. People are -—encouraged-— to go read my questions and your follow up to them and make their own decision on which of us made their point. I am confident in my position. I am also confident that the very same people verbally on my side of the argument and on yours will not be swayed. And as always, it’s the lurkers who can decide for themselves.

368 posted on 04/17/2012 10:28:34 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: The Cajun
I didn't want to get carpal tunnel trying to list all the dirty tricks and BS that has gone on in this primary. A man can only type so much. ;)


369 posted on 04/17/2012 10:30:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Williams; All

I myself will not vote for the lesser evil. I am still hoping Newt pulls a Tampa surprise. When I ponder what will happen if the current pRes is re-elected, I do not worry that the world will end.

“So don’t worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring its own worries.
Today’s trouble is enough for today.”
Matthew 6:34 (NLT)

As my Pappa (mechanic by trade) used to say, “Son sometimes you just haveta let it break before ya can fix it”.

370 posted on 04/17/2012 10:30:00 PM PDT by ssschev
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To: zeugma

Wow! That’s cool. I’ll throw in a two-bit analysis and say that it was mostly longtime FReepers here because noobier ones were afraid to get into a minefield thread like this.

371 posted on 04/17/2012 10:31:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TonyInOhio
We've seen this before - the Taft/Roosevelt split gave us Wilson, and look at how well that turned out.

That's so good I have to bump it.

(and spoken by a Perot voter who learned my lesson)

372 posted on 04/17/2012 10:32:56 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: JRandomFreeper
>”Especially this early in the process”<

Do you know any FReepers who Voted for Romney in a 2012 Republican Primary Election?

I have not seen one Freeper currently “supporting” Romney, or have I seen anyone here even suggesting that they have Voted for Romney in the past.

I agree that a whole lot can happen in six months. I will bet a dollar to a donut that most FReepers are pulling for Newt or a Brokered Convention rather than endorsing a Romney Candidacy.

The only moment that will count is when a FReeper is faced with an Obama versus Romney choice in the General and they are standing in the Voting Booth committing to one Presidential Candidate, or no Candidate at all. My fear is people will just refuse to go the Polls and the House, Senate, State and Local Republican Candidates will suffer for it.

I have been Posting on FR a long time and I have never seen such infighting amongst our membership. No good will come of this when accusations and yes, hateful rhetoric, rule the day. It is very sad indeed...

373 posted on 04/17/2012 10:34:12 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: TigersEye
It's not an assumption to know that Clinton was sickeningly weak on defense and had a sexual addiction before taking office.

Bush was the far better candidate on both counts. It was quite easy to see that Clinton/Hillary leadership was going to lead to big trouble.

374 posted on 04/17/2012 10:35:05 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Williams

I’ve been trying to post on various threads that dumping the Republican Estsblishment Party and voting against Obama ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

If it’s Romney vs. Obama, they are the same in policy but not in heart. Romney may be phony and liberal, but he’s not a communist actively supporting if not working for America’s enemies. Voting for Romney is voting for a typical Democrat over a freaking Commie.

And doing the above does NOT DETER from fighting the Republicans. They will always just use and abuse us and force Rinos down out throats. Therefore we must begin to start a new party, a conservative, Tea Party style party. This takes years. It is too late for 2012. We need to vote against Romney in all the primaries,fight him at the convention, but then we should band together to vote to keep Obama out of office.

Re-electing Obama does not “teach” the Rinos a lesson. Otherwise they would have gotten that lesson a Long time ago. For statists, as long as there is a statist in office, who cares what party’s? The protest no-vote only means that instead of the Rinos taking us for granted, Obama will. Ad he will be LAUGHING, LAUGHING. And that is something I cannot abide.

We can be open and protest the Repubs. We can leave them behind. We can be ACTIVE AND BOLD about it. But we can’t do much about 2012.

Stick around. There is a way to make this work out. I understand JR’s anger. But we can throw the bath water out without killing the baby. We can. We must.

375 posted on 04/17/2012 10:35:21 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TigersEye
Minefield? LOL! This is fairly mild (and much more polite), compared with the Dole, McCain, Echoir, and ASH ALERT! days.

Can't run with the big boys, stay on the porch. ;)


376 posted on 04/17/2012 10:35:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Williams

I’m kind of new here, but I think I understand how things work.

The site’s name is Free Republic and the focus of it is to return America back to a time when the country wasn’t run lik a dictatorship, but the site itself seems to be run like one with an absolute lack of free expression. And why? You people pay into it! You should be able to freely discuss why you want Romney to win...or why you refuse to vote for him. You can’t have a frank and open discussion if you’re always worried that Jim Robinson might not care for your opinion (see Lazamataz’s current freak out when he thought Jim didn’t like his comment).

Feel free to attack me as a n00b...or a Romneybot... I don’t even like the guy, but I’ll be damned if I’ll sit home on election day.

377 posted on 04/17/2012 10:36:46 PM PDT by Nobama_ever (Newt/Santorum or Santorum/Newt...NO Rombama and NO 0bama!!!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

There shouldn’t be any rhetoric at all. Jim set the rules and a bunch of people feel obligated to tell him and everyone else that they don’t agree. Every bit of this could have been avoided by people simply doing as instructed.

But they asked for a fight and this is the result.

378 posted on 04/17/2012 10:37:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up
It's not an assumption to know that Clinton was sickeningly weak on defense and had a sexual addiction before taking office.

Really? I never heard a word about that until he was in office for some time. How he could even have a record on defense from being Gov of AR I don't know.

379 posted on 04/17/2012 10:37:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Oh good grief. One more time.

I am and always have been conservative.

I think abortion is 100 percent wrong 100 percent of the time.

I believe we need a strong domestic energy policy. Drill here drill now and let the Saudi’s drink their oil for breakfast.

I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman.

I am a fiscal conservative.

If I vote for NOBODY or Ocommie, I believe I would be abandoning my conservative principles by allowing all that I believe in to be tossed in the junk heap by the socialist, marxist, commie, Islamist, moslem.

I will vote for ALL conservatives on the ticket.

IF MITT is the last GOP candidate standing, I will vote for him in order to oust Zero and his top to bottom commie administration.

A Mitt administration, albeit historically flawed, with a hopefully conservative majority in the house and senate will serve to restore the damage that this current thug has created.

I will vote to deny this thug the flexibility to continue to sell out my country.

Has THAT answered your question?

380 posted on 04/17/2012 10:38:34 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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