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Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model?
Click here if you wish to continue the donor based business model and free participation for all ^ | April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.

Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.

I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.

The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.

I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.

I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.

Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.


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To: Windflier; Jim Robinson
Windy, I disagree.

Working the FReepathon you hear stories. People out of work, one lost their house and was living with relatives. She sent $3. Dear one, she WAS a "premium member". And she's not the only one.

201 posted on 04/19/2012 6:12:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Can you take me off the quarterly donations ping list Jim...


202 posted on 04/19/2012 6:14:23 PM PDT by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: fml
As a free rider I find it incredible long time donors are purged every year or so for speaking their minds. What did paying get them?

What an asinine comment for a 'free rider' to make. If people disagree with the Mission Statement of this website, then they shouldn't be financially supporting it in the first place.

And, if you think a person's donations ought to buy them the luxury of spitting in the owner's eye, then you're no better than the average Obot.

203 posted on 04/19/2012 6:20:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Windflier; Jim Robinson; All

Yep. Welcome to Obamaville. That is probably part of the Marxist’s plan. Break the economy to the point that we have no voice.

What would you do if you wanted to completely break the free market economy and replace it with something else?

How would you do that?

What is it that one thing that you could do to raise the price of everything and blame it all on the free market economy
and the “rich”?

Simple. Raise the price of energy.

How would you do that?

Increase the regulations on the energy companies regarding producing energy via the EPA or the UN.

What did Obama say about energy prices? “They will necessarily sky rocket”.

When energy prices “necessarily sky rocket” what happens?

The cost of delivering seed for crops and feed for live stock increases.

The cost of delivering the resulting products to grocery stores increases.

The cost of delivering the raw materials to manufactures increases.

The cost of delivering the resulting products to retail increases.

The cost to the consumer increases. The sales taxes are percentages and take a bigger bite out of every-ones budget.

When most of the population needs help who steps in to help?

The slave master, the government is like an abusive parent. The more that we give, the more that we give in.

Replacing our current economic and governmental system is ON PURPOSE and has been in the works for a long time.

Throw all of the use-full idiot so called ruling-class lifelong politicians out on their butts!

TEA Party On!


204 posted on 04/19/2012 6:24:21 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Jim Robinson
Merchandise.

I'd definitely spend too much on Freeper stuff!

;^)


205 posted on 04/19/2012 6:25:17 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: All
New Monthly Donors Needed

Free Republic needs monthly donors

Every time a Freeper or Lurker signs up to be a New Monthly Donor

A generous Freeper donates $10!!

Please sign up now!

206 posted on 04/19/2012 6:27:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: onyx
I would want a Premium Membership that blocked all ads.

That's the funding model that I'm leaning toward. It works great on the Delphi Forums network (I've been a member there for nearly a decade).

207 posted on 04/19/2012 6:29:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; fml
And posters like that aren't even ashamed when someone can only afford $5...and they send nothing.

It's like a welfare recipient eating at posh restaurants while those footing the bill can't even afford McDonalds.

And saying that donations should equal "pay to play" is pathetic. Sounds like a liberal to me.

208 posted on 04/19/2012 6:31:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: RedMDer

Exactly right!!


209 posted on 04/19/2012 6:31:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Tribune7; Jim Robinson
It's not your refusal to support Romney that's the problem. It's your zotting everyone who says they are going to vote for Romney over Obama that's the problem especially since many of them are long-time residents here and have been loyal and generous donors.

Agreed. People aren't donating because they've seen fellow posters banned for offenses they deem minor or not offenses at all. The bannings seem arbitrary to them and thus they will not freely part with their money because one relatively innocuous comment could result in their banning. If you want to increase donations, either allow a true free-for-all dialogue like the kind that existed 10 years ago, or segment the forum into multiple common interest "rooms".

210 posted on 04/19/2012 6:31:48 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: cripplecreek
dog pawprint with a flag design.

Cute idea!

211 posted on 04/19/2012 6:35:30 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (Newt's not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn't running this year. - shoff)
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To: Longdriver
"Anyone who complains about ads should use FF or Chrome and Ad-block."

Would blocking ads still help FR? If everyone blocked the ads, there'd be no sense having the ads in the first place, would there be?

I would block the ads because they are such a pain on dial up.

212 posted on 04/19/2012 6:35:50 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Ron C.
...download and install Ghostery (hope you're using Firefox) - that is the best way to stop anyone from tracking your browser use.

I can't agree more. It's simple to install, and hovers up in the corner of your screen, almost unnoticed. Simple to use, too. Once you've killed a tracker, it won't work on any site that uses it. After about a week of killing trackers, there are hardly any new ones that show up.

213 posted on 04/19/2012 6:36:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tunehead54

Arby’s? C’mon. We do Chevy’s. W/lots of hot sauce. LOL! Thanks!!


214 posted on 04/19/2012 6:39:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: NittanyLion; Tribune7; Jim Robinson; onyx; RedMDer
The bannings that I've seen have been because the poster challenged the right of the owner to say "No Romney on FR".

Free Republic is not just a forum. It is a grassroots activist site. And Jim will not allow it to be used to push an anti-conservative. That's his right.

As to not donating because you can't say what you want, hogwash. But it really does sound like a good excuse, doesn't it. Do they also eat in restaurants and get repeated free meals after complaining about the food?

215 posted on 04/19/2012 6:40:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Tunehead54

Emerald is my birth stone. I like!


216 posted on 04/19/2012 6:40:26 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: tubebender

Got it. Thanks


217 posted on 04/19/2012 6:41:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Drew68; Jim Robinson

You sound like you want to leave, so why don’t you?

Jim has explained his position on Mitt Romney til he’s blue in the face, yet there you sit, still encouraging him to roll over for the Socialists and their enablers.

Tell you what, Drew. If Jim actually did that, I think he’d lose a helluva lot more Freepers than those he’s been forced to zot. This place would be without honor or a soul if he backed down to the threats of RINOs, cowards, and other assorted traitors.


218 posted on 04/19/2012 6:42:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NittanyLion

Please see my reply to that particular post.


219 posted on 04/19/2012 6:43:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Free Republic is not just a forum. It is a grassroots activist site. And Jim will not allow it to be used to push an anti-conservative. That's his right.

Of course it's his right. But the market is speaking, isn't it? From a "business" perspective, these actions are chasing away paying customers. Jim can do whatever he wants - but remember how that worked out for the Dixie Chicks...

220 posted on 04/19/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

I took the time to read the whole thread. For once not proudly posting without having read the article!

Whichever way it turns out, I'm cool with. My favorite suggestion right now is banners with donors ($5/mon or $60/yr) not  seeing the ads.

Regarding having a symbol next to your posting name for donors, I'm 50/50 on that. It would make filtering freeloaders easier (kinda like filtering out anonymous cowards on slashdot), But I'm concerned that it would adversely affect discussion. ("You don't even contribute, why should I care what you think.") I definitely do NOT like the idea of having it show more if you donate more. I kinda doubt you would either.

I trust your and John's ability to keep ads as unobnoxious as possible, to keep the site clean and uncluttered.

I think the stat you mentioned earlier of $1/year for all visitors is astounding.

 Regarding all the bitching about your stance on MR, I for one, am absolutely cool with it. I don't see this particular primary season as being that much more contentious than previous ones. It always gets really hot around here during election season. This, after all, is a site for conservative folks who think politics is important. It is natural that we have strong disagreements.

 

FR is still the best political news site on the net. I like it's clean look and feel, even though I'd like to be able tag a post with a "{+1 insightful" or "-1000000 DUfus" sometimes.

221 posted on 04/19/2012 6:45:54 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Please see my reply to that particular post.

I read it. All I can say is, the perception of a significant number of posters differs from yours. Does reality lie someone in between? Probably. But ultimately it's irrelevant, as what is indisputable is the funding has dried up.

Just one man's opinion...

222 posted on 04/19/2012 6:47:21 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: DJ MacWoW
FR has always been volatile. There were flame wars since I joined. This has never been Miss Manners class.

There's nothing wrong with healthy flame wars when the participants have equal footing but now it has become one-sided. And ganging up on people and browbeating them into submission is not a "flame war". And you're one of the worst offenders. You and that clique you all ping each other to have chased more good conservatives off this forum than Jim himself has zotted. It's the truth.

223 posted on 04/19/2012 6:48:42 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

How about limited advertising (strictly from conservatives we want to buy from) and only during fundraising events.

I for one would pay to advertise my new Obama satire on FR. Freeper to Freeper advertising. Four times a year.

I haven’t seen anybody else doing anything like this but I think it could work.


224 posted on 04/19/2012 6:48:56 PM PDT by Amadeo
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225 posted on 04/19/2012 6:50:58 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Drew68

Well, they (the ones who are leaving) have got to do what they’ve got to do. I’m not going to try to persuade them otherwise if it means I have to allow campaigning for or supporting a man who is 100% opposed to every conservative principle I hold dear. I do not put up yard signs for abortionist/homosexualist/statists! Not at my home and not on my pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty website!!

Thank you very much!!


226 posted on 04/19/2012 6:51:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: NittanyLion; Jim Robinson; onyx
But the market is speaking, isn't it?

You people with an axe to grind are a freepin' hoot!

Do you know how many FReepers are out of work? Some talk to us on the FReepathon thread. Some even try to send money. They are distraught because it's not as much as it used to be but they send it.

Is the economy booming? No? Keep your fantasy problems. Apparently you enjoy them more than the truth.

227 posted on 04/19/2012 6:51:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: rightly_dividing
Well Mr FreeRider, maybe instead of complaining on this thread, perhaps you should be thanking the posters here that are carrying your load for you. This is a privately owned conservative forumn and socialist and socialist sympathizers are not welcome here. If you fit in then you are welcome here, if you do not fit in here, your stay will be short.

Do your research kiddo, I've been here a long time. Until the checks clear seems anyone fits in.

228 posted on 04/19/2012 6:51:45 PM PDT by fml
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To: Jim Robinson

I was a regular poster on Lucianne.com for ten years. Perhaps I can give some perspective on their model. They have a combination ad revenue/donation setup. The ads present little problem except for three minor issues:

1) The ads seem at times to be chosen/computer-generated based upon certain key words in the article posted. Therefore, an article about how Mitt Romney supported the homosexual agenda in Massachusetts might be accompanied by an ad promoting gay cruises in the Caribbean. To some extent they were able to limit those anomalies, but not entirely.

2) On rare occasion, the site went down. On at least one occasion, I think that the site failure was tied to a rogue script in one of the ads. That was a rare event, however.

3) Some users, especially those on dialup, will probably have a much slower computer experience because of the ads.

Otherwise, the ads seemed relatively innocuous.

In the distant past, Lucianne.com sold LDot merchandise through a third party, but I don’t think that it was a major success.

With regard to the $2 processing fee: facepalm!! I’ll try to keep that in mind in the future.

I think that making FreeRepublic a members only site would be a mistake. It would lessen its influence in the country at large. Having special perks for members might work, however.

I can appreciate the financial difficulty in trying to keep a site like this up and running. As a long-time social conservative, I have noticed the trend in which the conservative wing of the Party is supported by many people of limited means who are only able to give small donations; but they are overwhelmed by the liberal wing of the Party, whose fewer but wealthier contributors are able to give more. I would imagine that you have lost quite a few contributors in recent weeks. Nevertheless, I appreciate your conservative voice and your effort to continue to give those of us on the right a prominent voice as well. Thanks.


229 posted on 04/19/2012 6:53:17 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Keep your fantasy problems. Apparently you enjoy them more than the truth.

*shrug* Think whatever you want, but it isn't the economy that's extending what used to be a 10 day process to ~80 days. There's a much more fundamental issue than that, and it's the one I've described.

230 posted on 04/19/2012 6:53:53 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Drew68; onyx
but now it has become one-sided.

C'mon Drew! They've always been one sided. Were you ever on a Schiavo RTL thread? I was. And there was a pack of posters that pounded the RTL's.

And you're one of the worst offenders.

Thank you Sweetie! Glad to know that I drive liberals into a frenzy.

231 posted on 04/19/2012 6:55:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: NittanyLion
But ultimately it's irrelevant, as what is indisputable is the funding has dried up.

Indisputable?

At this point this quarter, donations are averaging just over a thousand dollars a day. I think that's actually slightly better than was the case the same number of days into the first quarter.

232 posted on 04/19/2012 6:56:45 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: NittanyLion
but it isn't the economy that's extending what used to be a 10 day process to ~80 days.

yeah the economy's just BOOMING!! /s

233 posted on 04/19/2012 6:57:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Windflier

Whats the mission statement have to do with elitists who pay for the “privilege” to belong?


234 posted on 04/19/2012 6:57:37 PM PDT by fml
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To: NittanyLion
If you don't mind my asking....

Have you ever given money to FR?

If so...how much?

You've been here for as long as I have....pretty much.

How much have you given?

235 posted on 04/19/2012 6:57:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Windflier
You sound like you want to leave, so why don’t you?

Who says I want to leave?

This is a thread about alternative methods of funding that might be needed to keep the site running. Obviously, freepathons aren't cutting it anymore. I was just opining as to why this might be.

236 posted on 04/19/2012 6:59:26 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Wissa
Indisputable? At this point this quarter, donations are averaging just over a thousand dollars a day. I think that's actually slightly better than was the case the same number of days into the first quarter.

If funding is just as solid as ever, why would this thread be posted? Clearly there's a business issue.

237 posted on 04/19/2012 6:59:44 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion; DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson
*shrug* Think whatever you want, but it isn't the economy that's extending what used to be a 10 day process to ~80 days. There's a much more fundamental issue than that, and it's the one I've described.

Our longest FReepathon is 55 days, thankyouverymuch, and as a matter of fact, in the old days, our financial goals were $40K, then $60K and now we're at $94K which includes the cost of new servers to handle our heavy traffic!

FWIW, we have almost $40K in Monthly donations, so you have NO idea what you're spewing!


238 posted on 04/19/2012 7:00:30 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Drew68
Civility is expected only from those who don't toe the line. Outright unhinged hostility is what they face.

Still don't get it, do you? Here's a brief excerpt of a statement by the founder of Free Republic that may help:

Statement by the founder of Free Republic

"I posted the following statement to our front page in response to the criticism I'm receiving lately as to not being fair and balanced and perceived mistreatment of trolls and assorted malcontents. Got news for all, I'm NOT fair and balanced. I'm biased toward God, country, family, liberty and freedom and against liberalism, socialism, anarchism, wackoism, global balonyism and any other form of tyranny.

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

We aggressively defend our God-given and first amendment guaranteed rights to free speech, free press, free religion, and freedom of association, as well as our constitutional right to control the use and content of our own personal private property. Despite the wailing of the liberal trolls and other doom & gloom naysayers, we feel no compelling need to allow them a platform to promote their repugnant and obnoxious propaganda from our forum. Free Republic is not a liberal debating society. We are conservative activists dedicated to defending our rights, defending our constitution, defending our republic and defending our traditional American way of life.

Our God-given liberty and freedoms are not negotiable."

239 posted on 04/19/2012 7:00:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Drew68; All
Jim there is one thing you should be aware of. Sometimes, all is not what it seems.

The following is from a long time FReeper 'out there' on other boards as an alternative to the atmosphere on FR:

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"I'm seriously re-thinking if I will honor my monthly donations pledge the rest of this year. FR is turning into a Mormon hating, Romney hating, Obama loving forum If Obama can beat Romney, WOOT WOOT! I think Jim hates Romney more than Obama. He has a few ass kissers that feel the same way, we all know who they are, but most of the others are trolls that pretend to go along because they voted for Obama and will again.

One of his very best friends that helps on the Freepathons, spews anti Romney crap all day on FR but in emails tells other Freepers that she will vote for Romney if he is the candidate in November because she hates Obama much more. So the bottom line, it's all BS all the time on FR lately.".

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Jim, many of us, both zotted and yet to be zotted love this site. We've tried to post quality material and make the site even better with those posts which in turn reflects highly and favorably on you.

We've loved FR and has said as much. But there's no room for disagreement any longer it seems. But unlike some of those that continue to put up a 'front' there are some that state their honest feelings and then are viciously attacked, because those attacking, I suppose, believe they are making points with you.

NONE of us have been shilling for Romney. He doesn't represent us but advocating not voting is beyond comprehension for alot of people.

People/members just didn't expect the reaction from some of the others, simply because they are considering Romney if he's the nominee. And Drew made a valid point that was cordially written. Look at the type of responses made back.

Anyway thought you should know, what is being said to your face/open forum is not always what it seems.

240 posted on 04/19/2012 7:02:52 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: onyx; NittanyLion; Jim Robinson

I didn’t know how much the costs had risen since I’ve not been with the team a long time. Don’t count the days either, just work. :-)


241 posted on 04/19/2012 7:04:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: NittanyLion
I get the feeling you want FR to dry up..and blow away.

Of course that's just my perception..and my opinion might differ from yours.

242 posted on 04/19/2012 7:05:08 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: onyx
FWIW, we have almost $40K in Monthly donations, so you have NO idea what you're spewing!

If you say so. I concluded given the presence of this post that the current funding model isn't working or else why would alternatives be tossed out? It appears to me that revenues can't cover expenses. Now in my business, if that happened I would look to change the way I'm serving the market. Perhaps your experience differs.

243 posted on 04/19/2012 7:06:21 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion; onyx; Jim Robinson

I believe this thread is the result of some questions that were asked on FR2 when the main board was down today. If that’s incorrect Jim will correct me.


244 posted on 04/19/2012 7:10:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Thanks, but I don’t know what the $2.00 processing fee is referring to? That sounds like a misunderstanding somewhere to me. It might amount to a $2.00 - $3.00 fee on a hundred dollar donation, but otherwise credit card processing fees are a relatively small percentage, usually in the neighborhood of three percent or so. Maybe a little higher on smaller donations through paypal, because I think they have a fixed fee per transaction element as part of their rate which might drive it up to 4% or more on a small donation. And we have an estimate for the credit card and bank processing fees factored into our budget anyway.

I would like to avoid advertising if at at possible due to its many drawbacks. I’d also like to avoid going commercial at all if possible. I think it would change the nature of our grassroots conservative activist organization.


245 posted on 04/19/2012 7:11:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Good evening guy. I hope you are doing well.

Interesting thread. I hope I can be of some help.

I'm sure you're aware of this: Alexa Traffic Rank: 4,763 Traffic Rank in US: 1,091. That is something advertisers, venture capitalists, foundations, etc. look for. You have many options. Trade off: more money, less control.

May the Lord bless you with wisdom.

5.56mm

246 posted on 04/19/2012 7:12:07 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: DJ MacWoW
And posters like that aren't even ashamed when someone can only afford $5...and they send nothing. It's like a welfare recipient eating at posh restaurants while those footing the bill can't even afford McDonalds. And saying that donations should equal "pay to play" is pathetic. Sounds like a liberal to me.

LOL...you're serious and thats the funny part. People pay to use the site and are not guaranteed use of the site? How about if money for a service is rendered the service is given. Nevermind the censorship that is what all the bannings are. And you think I sound like a liberal?

I have little problem with the rules, but the vacuum you all want to exist in is making a mockery of this site. My way or the high way is not a very conservative trait.

247 posted on 04/19/2012 7:13:58 PM PDT by fml
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To: Jim Robinson

The $2 processing fee was mentioned by someone upthread. If that is not the case, that is helpful to know. Thanks.


248 posted on 04/19/2012 7:16:26 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: fml; Jim Robinson
People pay to use the site and are not guaranteed use of the site?

They are not buying the right to voice contrary opinions. They support the site to keep it up and running.

Nevermind the censorship

Free Republic is private property. No one has the right to post views contrary to the owners. That's just the way it is. It's Jim's house.

And you think I sound like a liberal?

Are you using the site for free and complaining about it? Yup. Just like a liberal. "I want it free and I want it my way!"

249 posted on 04/19/2012 7:22:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Ron C.

BTTT .... thanks for the link!


250 posted on 04/19/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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