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Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.
Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.
I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.
The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.
I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.
I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.
Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.
That statement has more truth than the birth certificate...
Make statement. Get confronted for proof. Offer no proof and instead post flippant comeback.. i.e. "Go find it yourself". I saw one of them living under the culvert in the back 40. Near as we could figure she lived on possum and cow dung. We called her a ditch troll. Did I mention that the water in the ditch was truly blue? Pictures are out there. You find them...
This! Especially the part about the harpies! This is the FR I joined eleven years ago.
And a very immature, bitter weenie posted it here as truth with no documentation.
Bet we can guess where she found it (assuming that her regurgitation of the text is accurate.)
Emerald is my birth stone. I like!
Emerald is my birth stone. I like!
Emerald is my birth stone. I like!
That's really great Windflier.
Now what are you going to do about keeping 0 from getting a second term this November which is personally my bigger concern?
And on an ancillary matter what are you going to do about solving FR's revenue issues -- other than invoking the Founders I mean? If you mortgage your house and send the cash in that would probably cover the nut for this quarter but how about next?
This is exactly what I’m talking about.
You accuse me of cowardice. The other day I was told by a charming freeper to “eat shit and die.”
I’ve explained my position several times. I stand by it.
Perhaps if I use the term The Republican Nominee instead of the Romney word, I could escape the abuse.
How are we going to discuss the upcoming election if we become a 3rd party site? There is no 3rd party. If you want one, start now for 2016 but in the meantime, get rid of Obama.
I read posts by otherwise sane seeming people who say ‘there are worse things than losing elections.’
What would that be? A pointless stand that nobody will remember and that won’t even be a ripple in history while a known tyrant who’s already announced he will be more free in a second term to ruin this country gets another term?
Nobody here has been able to convince me that this is a good policy.
And, yes, a majority of people here agree with me but, sadly, they are afraid to post their opinions for fear of receiving ugly comments or being banned.
Poor unappreciated liberal. How nobly you shoulder the evil conservative abuse while you just give and give.
At some point you have to decide that you love and respect yourself enough to find the support you need among people sympathetic to your plight. Good luck.
As a proud Dollar-a-Day club member, I vote to go with your preference. I can live with ads.
Since you seem to think such matters should be public, let’s see you post yours, from start to finish. (I’m appalled that anyone would ask for such information—big brother, anyone?)
Thank you very much.
Jim, this is as clear a statement as I can imagine. God bless you.
You have outlined perfectly some of the reasons the freepathons have not been as successful lately--and within those reasons there exists an obvious solution, but apparently that is out of the question.
At some point, sensible people decide that it's not in their best interest to pay (or donate) to visit a place to endure insults and threats--and watch as others of long-standing membership and patriotism are picked off one by one. And for what? Simply saying that although they do NOT like Romney, they may well cast a vote to avoid living under a wannabe dictator? Something that simple can result in a zot. And has!
Going to ads is not going to solve THAT problem. People will just use ad-block, and if the insults and threats (from mods, no less!) continue, there will be less hits from that. Charging a fee at the door will probably not raise as much money as the freepathons of old did, back before these latest purges. And, again, the threats and insults to that smaller group will cause it to dwindle even more.
Fortunately, it's not my decision to make. This is, as we've often said, Jim's creation, and I wish him well. With so many other similar boards--most entirely free--on the internet and on FaceBook, people have more choices. No one board is "the only game in town" these days.
Outlaw Woman, you are so right! Not voting at all, or starting a third party, is exactly what is going to plunge this country (as we know it) into its last days. Obama has everything in place to turn this into his dictatorship, and don't think for a minute that the spineless Republicans will ever step in to stop it. They sure haven't so far. Our only hope is to vote for the Republican, no matter how much the clothespin on our nose hurts, so that we can buy enough time to set our nation back on track.
I'm appalled at the apparent patriots on this board who are so willing to throw their country under the bus to teach a lesson--to who? Republicans? The country? Not sure, but I've seen it posted in that way. Well, there's a saying about cutting off a nose to spite a face...and I respectfully decline to participate in that activity.
If saying this gets me banned, so be it, I guess. I would prefer that not happen. I've been here since 1998, and have been a dollar-a-day donor for most of those years, but such is life. As I said in another post, everything changes.
That is more than unkind.
I stand with our Team, proudly and completely. We stand solidly together. The internet is full of vicious posters and sore losers.
Freep em. Theyre nothing to us.
Amen, onyx. I stand with our wonderful, generous and supportive team as well.
I never use the term noobie to demean another freeper.
However, I will use it now.
Excuse me, noobie. I am not a poor unappreciated liberal.
I’ve been on Free Republic since the day it was founded in its current identity and long before that when it was the Whitewater forum.
You joined a few months ago and seem to regard yourself as really special.
Before you insult me, look at my posting history. I have never been a liberal and am very much appreciated by most of the members here and in my personal life as well.
As for poor, well, I’m not rich but I’m not on food stamps either.
I’d advise you to think before you post.
On the off chance that you are capable of it.
1) Vote for Newt Gingrich in the primary.
2) Continue to urge others to vote for Gingrich.
3) Continue to make the case that a vote for Romney is a vote for everything we conservatives oppose, and that supporting him will signal the death of conservatism in America.
4 Continue to remind people that preserving ones honor and integrity is more important than losing this election.
5) Continue to encourage others to look to the Founders for guidance and answers.
MizSterious, I seriously considered having your screen name. Other ideas were Miztaken and Mizbegotten.:)
I totally agree with you and, by the way, I love your tag line.
Where were people on this forum who are bemoaning The Presumptive Nominee when Rick Perry was running.
I’m still ticked about that. So many of those holier than me people either viciously abused Perry or refused to defend him.
He was the ultimate small government candidate. He wanted to do away with several agencies, that do nothing but make our lives miserable. He would probably add the GSA to that list now. Government could be pared down to half with fantastic savings and great benefit to our country.
Not only did members here crucify Perry but they attacked every other candidate. From the misbegotten infatuation with Herman Cain, they moved (and I guess I did too) to Newt.
It became obvious pretty early that Newt wouldn’t make it, but that didn’t stop the vicious attacks on Santorum.
And now we want to blame others? Forget it. It was us.
Actually, a lot of people here supported Perry, but most were afraid to admit it, lest it invite the most vicious of attacks. If complaints were filed, the mods seldom ever intervened (I know of no such instances, in fact, but I’ll say seldom because there might be some I didn’t see).
So now it seems the trend here is to suppress even Romney votes, even if he is the Republican candidate. Sounds like someone wants Obama to win pretty badly. I can’t tell you how upsetting that is, coming from a site that once was a great conservative place.
Back in 1998, I debated about whether to use MizSterious or MizEllaneous—flipped a coin, and that’s what I use. ;)
Romney is a liberal and NOT a good candidate. He also is NOT the nominee. The primaries are NOT over.
What would that be? A pointless stand that nobody will remember and that wont even be a ripple in history while a known tyrant whos already announced he will be more free in a second term to ruin this country gets another term?
I would rather win this election and eject Obama from our White House in January, but not at the cost of replacing him with a fellow traveler who will do nothing to slow or alter the ruling class agenda.
There's still a slim chance that we can somehow get the real conservative over the finish line, but the pressure, inertia, and momentum of the ruling class' intent to push the liberal candidate forward may be unstoppable.
Therein lies the predicament for people of good character and conscience. We're being presented with a choice between two candidates that, underneath the hood, bear a striking resemblance to one another. What real choice is that?
Every one of us will react to this predicament in some way. How one reacts says everything about their character.
Some will insist that candidate R is better than candidate O, while refusing to honestly examine his record (which strongly indicates otherwise). That's like a girl who pretends she doesn't see her boyfriend's hand on her girlfriend's leg. In other words, they're too afraid to look, for fear of what they'll find. It's just easier to pretend that he's got a decent bone somewhere in his body, and that you'll be able to 'change' his ways.
Some will look at our choices and conclude that the ruling class is going to push their agenda through, no matter what we do through the civil mechanisms of politics. Those folks correctly see that Romney and Obama work for the same masters, and understand that we're being played like pawns in a very large and evil game.
I'm in the former group.
I'm one of those who recognize that we are now realistically at the point where the solemn compacts that have bound us together as a people, have been crushed under the boot heel of a small, yet incredibly determined leftist movement that has been slowly overthrowing our constitutional form of government for nearly a century.
The 'system' is broken. If people look at this election and don't see that we're being manipulated like herd animals, then they're more blinkered than I thought.
We're being led to the slaughter. Some will go willingly under the illusion that they're making a survival choice. Others who can see what's happening, will refuse to be culled, and will defiantly stand their ground.
A paradigm shift in reality is in order here for many of my fellow conservatives. That's going to require that they squarely face what's really happening here, and realize what their real choices are.
I’m sorry that you’re so upset. Have a bowl of ice cream and a good cry, you’ll be right as rain. :)
Romney is not yet the nominee.
I refuse to vote for a liberal. Not going to happen. There is no difference between Romney and Obama except that Romney is more affable about being a destructive liberal.
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You’re right on the subject and right on the target!!
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Hmmmm...is this your SECOND opus, Miz? You left once before over the FLDS battle when FR didn't go your way and then came back. I truly am surprised to see your support of Romney.
It appears that FR doesn't meet your standards, so one of the other boards may be more to your taste. Remember the old song, "got along without ya before I metcha, gonna get along without you nowww..."
And...that goes for every one of the "I'm not gonna donate if JR doesn't fold" posters.
In my opinion the posters predicting/wishing for doom for FR are not in numbers high enough to cause their hoped for effect. There will be new sign-ups coming in, as there are every day.
Perhaps they won't all be free riders.
That is the saddest damn thing I have ever read regarding this site! You can't even get a candy bar at the store for a buck anymore.
"No one board is "the only game in town" these days."
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Resistance to tyranny is obedience to GOD!!
We ARE the resistance!! Always have been, always will be!!
I’m not upset .. not with you. You’re not worth it.
I feel sorry for you, but that doesn’t excuse your poor manners and your lack of knowledge.
Windflier, I can see you’re sincere and you’ve never been nasty. I appreciate that.
But I cannot agree with you.
Put yourself in the shoes of an American colonist in the late 1700s. Events are coming to a head. Do you support the Loyalists, or the Revolution? Or, do you choose the third way, and refuse to stand for anything? Those are your only choices.
A vote for Romney or Obama is a vote to continue under the reign of King George III. The only candidate who represents the Revolution is Newt Gingrich. If he doesn't make it, will you then decide that those chains really do "rest lightly upon you"?
Think about it. It's where we truly are today.
I want three pockets tees, Men's - L and three baseball caps please.
But Ma’am, I don’t wish to be excused. This is a conservative site and I support conservative candidates. You have pontificated on your soapbox supporting your liberal choice on a conservative forum, to little acclaim.
I would be more than happy to yield to the opinions of the owner of this site, as to whether a n00b conservative, or a veteran member stumping for liberal candidates, should be the first to be excused.
You see? Now your blood pressure is up and you could be relaxing with a bowl of rocky road right now watching Gilligan’s Island, but No-o-o
Stay away from ads.
Charge a membership fee to be able to post. But let the public view what is going on.
I would support any option that you choose to keep FR healthy and alive.
Personally, I don’t care for the outside ad route, because I believe that you could lose control and the libs could easily do as they have done to Rush.
Of course, the ‘naughty word’ filter could keep me from using my most favorite word—”bastard”. ;>)
Wow!! I have seen gays, come out, perverts all, but never quite like that.
pissant, was that you???????
If all that changed at FR was that a current contributor's name in a post was changed from black to green and indirectly got just another 10% of regular posters to contribute a dollar a month saving FR from bankruptcy could you deal with that?
Alternatively, why not acknowledge FReepers who keep the lights on and the site up for all the freeloaders?
My miserable but automatic, monthly contribution is small but with others it adds up to ~ $35,000 quarterly - 1000 people supporting 200,000 users for 1/3 of the costs? Check with Jim for actual numbers ... one thing I am certain - its a small number of FReepers paying a big percentage of the budget.
One other thing, aside from just keeping the lights on, apparently from reports we need some server upgrades to avoid downtimes - especially during FReepathons - kind of embarrassing. ;-)
I made up an example for Onyx here.
Consider just the first one. Unobtrusive, acknowledges the poster's level of support and as seems to make you uncomfortable, distinguishes the FReeper from the free riders.
I think it might even have been Onyx that noted that it takes $2 to process a contribution so a $5 per quarter would likely need to be the minimum to be acknowledged graphically as a contributor.
Given the VERY minor contributions necessary from a larger minority of FReepers to keep us up and running I'm not really worried about the freeloaders feelings.
For my part, if these miniscule changes could shame frequent FReepers into contributing, save FReeRepublic, unnecessary then I think its worth a try. FWIW. ;-)
Joe Pro Bono started it and I eagerly followed, so thanks to JB.
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