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Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Last night, I didn’t understand what was going on in the forum because I haven’t been here in a while.
However, I now understand a bit just from reading one reply to you.
I will post my name in agreement with your excellent post.
Thank you for being so daring.
Bump in agreement, knowing I’ll possibly be banned.
I would hate that because I love FR. :o(
I know the feeling. :(
Thank you, dixiechick. My ‘daring’ days may be coming to an end.
I can’t reach anyone here and am getting black and blue from the abuse.
I’m going to just post on doggie threads and so on for a while.
Isn’t it possible to both have donations and advertising?
Yes, but then we have to live with the restrictions and drawbacks that will be put on us by the fact that we’d be a for profit commercial venture and that we would have to comply with our advertisers wishes or lose the revenue. I believe going commercial would alter the nature of Free Republic.
FR book that is a good idea.
Can we send checks? (I didn’t see the option on the link)
I am supporting the constitution party for president. Wee need to bash both Obama and Romney and tie then together. and have someone with guts to taken on the GOP-E. The two party system has failed. I am voting for Virgil Goode the nominee.
Apparently, no one gives a hoot about your idea.
My point was to NittanyLion...as she appears/appeared to be calling Jim out.
If that's a problem with you.....take it up with Nittanylion.
When Jim Robinson asks, it’s a good time for a topic FReep. My apologies for the off-list topic ping.
Let Your FReep Flag Fly
I’d love to see a single banner by Ruger or Smith * Wesson.
You can ask that question? In this economy, seriously?
I know some people that five dollars will buy a months supply of medicine.
If sixty cents a day is going to deprive you of medicine, dump internet access.
On the bright side, we may not have to go through the anguish of voting for Romney.
Or anyone, ever again...
Robust, healthy organizations can handle diversity (in a good sense) AND EVEN NEGATIVE FEEDBACK
Others . . .
I think that is an excellent idea.
I deplore change . . . and more so the older I get, it seems.
These times are challenging enough and likely to get more so.
IF . . . IF . . . IF . . .
Ads for lurkers say or for lurkers and non-donors . . . helped decrease the hassles and just the time and energy spent on fund raising . . . time and energy that could be better used on FR’s otherwise higher priorities—that might be a good change.
ATS made the transition to ad functioning fairly painlessly. They already had a strict excerpt policy.
I WOULD want there to be a bit looser policy here—that where we had written permissions filed with a mod etc. for whole posts, it would be OK.
It would be a hard and painful judgment call if I had to make such a decision. Part of me thinks that the hassles are going to increase such that the extra cash for more robust hardware and less time and energy spent on fund raising—might be a bigger blessing down the road than we can anticipate at present.
Sometimes at election time and even fundraising time . . . FR can take on far too much of the spirit of a cult.
I know you don’t like rear kissers/ing.
However, sometimes it doesn’t seem like anyone with less than a glowing supplicant attitude is tolerated much at all or long at all.
FR 10-12 years ago was much more robust with a wider diversity of ideas freely—even vigorously exchanged—often with great fiestiness—and we all survived and FR was a great almost free-for-all that was great fun for most of us, IIRC.
Some churches also transition from early years into being a clique of mostly old biddies gossiping about the “OUT-GROUP HAGS OVER THERE” and losing the healthy reasons for being a group.
To whatever degree FR gives into such an attitude or spirit, we shoot ourselves in the foot.
Any Organizational Development PhD can tell you that the healthiest organizations that are the most productive and the most successful—all handle negative feedback constructively, robustly and without punitive retaliation.
IF . . . IF . . . we go to some variation of a business model, I think it might be very needful to return to our more robust and resilient years on such scores.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to hold up even fairly narrow Conservative Constitutional and even Christian ideals as our standard and to not tolerate those who tear them down.
But I’m reminded about the two men who meet on the bridge . . . the check each other out—oh, both are Christian . . . ahhh . . . Trinitarian? Yes. . . . Wonderful . . . Evangelical? Yes. Great! . . . Baptist . . . Super! then finally after winnowing it down several more layers to a very minor splinter issue, one man realizes the other fellow is not IDENTICAL and so pushes him off the bridge.
FR shoots itself in the foot and decreases donations and pleasure in being here when it behaves in that fashion.
Were it to go to a business model and behave that way, it would hurt the viability of the business model significantly, imho.
you’re assuming that the ones I’m speaking of actually have internet access, and aren’t using free wifi.
I pay for mine, I also contribute to FR, but not everyone is as lucky right now.
What would it take . . .
to remind non-donors that they have not contributed in XX months or whatever before they can post a post successfully say once a day or once a week they’d get that reminder.
Maybe that they’d have to click one of the following before the post would post:
( ) Still not able/willing to donate; ( )Will donate $____ within 24 hours. etc.
Another thought may be to only allow posting to those members that pay at least $? (whatever is the minimum) for how many actual members there are here. I remember reading that FR has about 300,000 members. If you need $400,000 per year to operate, that is less than $1.50 PER YEAR per member. Obviously, not everyone sends in money, but I don't think a measly $5 or $10 fee per month is too much to ask and, that way, you may not need to do quarterly fundraisers and sweat it out each time. I'll continue to send in my automatic monthly payment either way. I can't live without my Free Republic!
I think you left out that
Mitt is also
a Marxist globalist . . . and probably a closet satanist.
. . . if it meant Id have to give up even one iota of my belief in God or support for our Judeo-Christian founding principles and inalienable rights.
THAT’S the SUPER critical issue, right there.
While I PREFER things as they are . . .
there are probably at least several ways to PRESERVE, PROTECT, HOLD INVIOLATE the above priority in any number of different business models. Emphasizing such at the beginning of any negotiations toward a changed model would be a high priority, for me.
And, personally, I think you DESERVE to be as wealthy as possible for what you’ve helped us establish here over these dozen years. And, personally, I’d like to see you have more than usual to spend in whatever ways while you can still enjoy it.
And I’d SURE like to see no more stress and hassle about the hardware, hosting sites or whatever the mechanical problems are from time to time. If money would solve that—imho, go for it.
Put me down as “yes” on the $5 vanity fee. Also be sure to bill my account 50 cents for this completely useless post (crap, now I have to change my tag line).
An idea that Ive been working on (in the back of my head for several years) is a sister site completely separate from FR where we can have an all of the above approach. I signed up a year ago on two different cloud providers and have even built a prototype conservative social networking system using some AJAX programming techniques and some user defined page set up techniques of my own design. Each user can sign up at the membership level he or she desires and can control his/her own page(s) or forums and control who may or may not post to them or even access them, ie, each paying member is his own site owner/administrator/moderator and can even recruit others to assist. And it could be a for profit site where we could sell merchandise or advertising or whatever. The only basic restrictions are they would have to be pro-life, pro-family conservative pages.
I THINK THAT’S A FANTASTIC IDEA.
CONGRATS. I hope you can and will make it happen.
I can hang my hat on the fact that I spent some time and considerable money in 1999/2000 with the Libertarian party. My take home from that experience is that it is ridiculously easy to sabotage a third party and I don't know how to prevent that.
It'll cost you $2.50 to change your tag line.
I doesn’t matter to me either way. I am already a monthly subscriber, so obviously a membership based model would not bother me. The downside to that is that we would lose some good people on fixed or on shrinking incomes. The upside to that is it would serve to reduce the infiltration of creepy cultists, party peons and other severe-conservative con-artists, as well as presenting an obstacle to their resubscription. Of course, they would then bleat about the ‘right’ to post whatever since they have paid for it.
I am good with however you decide to roll.
“Are there any like me who donate plenty but still the freepathons make us feel somehow bad? I dont like that they are so long I dont like that some dont even feel guilty because I feel guilty during them even though I contribute enough.”
I feel guilty that I can’t contribute more. But right now, I just can’t.
You may be glad to be reminded of Romney’s faults, failures and shortcomings, but I am not on a forum of conservatives.
Obama and his minions will be reminding us of those things daily and include a lot of lies as well.
We should be focusing on Romney’s virtues... and that he will turn the economy around. That’s the most important thing in a lot of people’s minds.
If you truly want to get rid of Obama, don’t join him in bashing our candidate.
Point taken. I refrained from bashing all other candidates, but it’s a lot harder with Romney. The one good thing I can say about him is that he really wants to be President not Organizer in Chief. I didn’t see that desire in McCain.