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Frenzied hours for US on fate of a China insider (Obama rejected Bo Xilai aide defection attempt)
NDTV ^ | April 18, 2012 | Steven Lee Myers and Mark Landler

Posted on 04/19/2012 3:04:18 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

Washington: On the evening of February 6, a vice mayor of a major Chinese city who had a reputation as a crime fighter turned up at the American Consulate in Chengdu in an agitated state, telling a tale of corruption and murder that has ensnared the Obama administration in a scandal it wants nothing to do with.

Wang Lijun was taken past police officers loyal to a powerful former patron, Bo Xilai.

The official, Wang Lijun, sought asylum, fearing for his life even as Chinese security forces quickly surrounded the building and asked the American diplomats inside to turn him over.

Instead, after a frantic debate that reached the White House, Mr. Wang stayed until he could arrange for an official from a Beijing ministry to come 36 hours later and escort him past the local security cordon.

The authorities from Beijing took him into custody, and he is now under investigation for divulging internal Chinese affairs to the Americans. If charged with and convicted of treason, he could face a death sentence.

*Snip*

According to the officials' version, the American diplomats who oversaw his brief, bizarre stay pre-empted any formal application for asylum because of the difficulties of spiriting him out of the country and questions about his eligibility.

(Excerpt) Read more at ndtv.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; presclusterfluck
This transpired pretty much as I suspected. The guy tried to defect, Obama rejected his request and Obama's State Department flunkeys came up with a plan B that would defer the guy's execution until after Nov 2012. A high level defector like this comes once every few decades, so it's predictable that Obama would have declined to accept the valuable insights into the Chinese regime that the guy would have provided. And every potential defector or intelligence asset in China now knows of this betrayal. I'll be glad when Hope and Change finally exits the White House.
1 posted on 04/19/2012 3:04:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

I agree Brother, the sooner we rid ourselves of this manipulative, anti-constitutional , bandy legged, one eyed, touch hole, POS of a so called president, THE BETTER!


2 posted on 04/19/2012 3:16:56 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Zhang Fei

Disgraceful. We always knew that Obama was a Marxist tool - but his cruelty and contempt for everybody else is breathtaking. I think he’s going to win in November, but I hope a few months later he gets marched off in handcuffs. He’s disgusting.


3 posted on 04/19/2012 3:19:42 PM PDT by livius
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To: Zhang Fei
This comes as such a big surprise.

Imagine: Zero sides with an enemy regime against the interests of the United States.

I think he does that every other day, and it has a name: The 0bama Doctrine.

4 posted on 04/19/2012 3:33:33 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Zhang Fei

Reading this is bad for my blood pressure. My tagline pretty much sums it up.


5 posted on 04/19/2012 3:37:37 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Comrade Obama is in solidarity with his Communist overlords.


6 posted on 04/19/2012 3:42:14 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Zhang Fei

Couple years back some poor desperate Nork families hiding out in Beijing jumped over the fence of the Japanese Embassy, only to be handed back to the Chinese, to be deported to almost certain execution in NK.

Now we see that OUR government is JUST AS cowardly.

WOW..!!!


7 posted on 04/19/2012 3:43:12 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Zhang Fei

This shows how Obama is a traitor and worse than any mere liberal.


8 posted on 04/19/2012 3:59:39 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Zhang Fei.
On the evening of February 6, a vice mayor of a major Chinese city who had a reputation as a crime fighter turned up at the American Consulate in Chengdu in an agitated state, telling a tale of corruption and murder... a powerful former patron, Bo Xilai... Chinese security forces quickly surrounded the building and asked the American diplomats inside to turn him over... Wang stayed until he could arrange for an official from a Beijing ministry to come 36 hours later and escort him past the local security cordon... he is now under investigation for divulging internal Chinese affairs to the Americans... he could face a death sentence... the American diplomats who oversaw his brief, bizarre stay pre-empted any formal application for asylum because of the difficulties of spiriting him out of the country and questions about his eligibility.
Didja see it? -- "questions about his eligibility".


9 posted on 04/19/2012 4:03:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: WPaCon

[ This shows how Obama is a traitor and worse than any mere liberal. ]

Yup, he could have easily lifted a finger and gave him sanctuary or at the very least work with Canada or the UK or some other nation to do so, but nope, delay execution till next year....

We need to hammer this onto Obama during the 2012 election.


10 posted on 04/19/2012 4:07:21 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Zhang Fei

So the Obama admin wants to send defectors back to their deaths?


11 posted on 04/19/2012 4:16:08 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

This is racism!


12 posted on 04/19/2012 4:39:42 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Zhang Fei; Jim Robinson
... and questions about his eligibility.

Of all the unholy, flaming GALL!

Did you see this one, Sir??

Here's an ebattled POTUS who has NEVER made the most remote EFFORT to settle any of the swirling questions about his own eligibility, and his administration has -- effectively -- condemned this Chinese guy to death over -- ta-daaaa -- questions about his eligibility!!

The abject hypocrisy is palpable, and disgusting on every conceivable level.

On January 20th, as his hand leaves the Holy Bible, I want Newt on the phone to Beijing arranging a trade. I'll give you three guesses who we should offer, and the first two don't count.

13 posted on 04/19/2012 4:48:14 PM PDT by HKMk23 (GOPe 2012 MITT HAPPENS)
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To: Zhang Fei
"This is not the Dalai Lama who walked in the door."

Given a reasonable application of perfectly legitimate debriefing techniques you could learn a hell of a lot more from the devil than you would from a saint.

14 posted on 04/19/2012 5:27:05 PM PDT by norton (I will transmit this information to Vladimir.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Given ALL the facts in the case - the guy was one of the ‘enforcers’ in the corrupt local government of the former boss he was running from - I think GW Bush would have made the same decision, and so would I.

He was no political dissident and he did not seek asylum - he wanted what he got; protection in the U.S. embassy until we could safely get him into bational government hands, and away from the hands of police controlled by his old boss.

He was no dissident nor a really nice guy. He did not want out of the Chicom system, he wanted to be the whistle blower who would end the rising-star carreer of his former corrupt boss. So far, he helped to achieve that much.

He was no dissident and in spite of all he could tell us, if we could pretend he was a dissident and try to hang on to him, the difficulty would not provide equal benefit for the effort. Most of the ‘intelligence’ he knows is about the many ways in which his former boss and the bosses wife were corrupt and corruptly feathered their own nests - circumstances he helped them with.

He is no dissident. It is a truly internal affair in China and one with which our better role is in NOT pretending he’s a dissident who sought asylum in the U.S.


15 posted on 04/19/2012 5:33:33 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
He is no dissident. It is a truly internal affair in China and one with which our better role is in NOT pretending he’s a dissident who sought asylum in the U.S.

We have a lot of foreign intelligence assets operating on a purely commercial basis, i.e. for money. If these assets were required to have clean hands, we wouldn't have very many of them at all. And one of the requirements of risking life and limb in Uncle Sam's behalf is an asylum package. A walk-in like this guy is like manna from heaven. We get to discover everything we don't know but would like to find out about the relationship between provincial governments and central government - how money gets disbursed, what kinds of administrative mechanisms aid or prevent charismatic individuals like Bo Xilai and Lin Biao from launching coup attempts. The possibilities are vast for a would-defector like this guy. Intelligence-wise, the most useful defectors are not political dissidents like Fang Lizhi or Andrei Sakharov - they're disgruntled nomenklatura who have gotten their hands dirty.

16 posted on 04/19/2012 6:40:29 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Wuli

What’s more, I suspect there’s a lot of blackmail material on senior Chinese leaders we could have gotten from this guy. Material we could have followed up on and used perhaps to extract concessions from some of these people or recruit them as intelligence assets.


17 posted on 04/19/2012 6:43:50 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

with this deliberate betrayal of American vital interests, Obama takes it to a new level

when Gouzenko defected in Ottawa, Kim Philby downplayed his significance and got someone also suspected of being a spy to interview him

http://www.canada.com/Notorious+turncoat+Philby+interference+Gouzenko+sensation+author+finds/3605638/story.html


18 posted on 04/19/2012 7:05:35 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (you voted for Obama to prove you're not racist, now vote against him to prove you're not stupid...)
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To: Wuli; Zhang Fei; Ponderthis; AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster
I don't know the facts here, and the separate posts by Wuli and Zhang Fei show there are at least two and possibly more than two sides to this story.

What I do know is that this sounds really, really bad.

Do those on the ground have better information than what little we're seeing in the American news media?

19 posted on 04/19/2012 7:26:22 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
What I do know is that this sounds really, really bad.

The guy wasn't an asylee - he was a defector. Big difference.

20 posted on 04/19/2012 7:45:55 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

He will take no action to the benefit of America. ABO.


21 posted on 04/19/2012 7:58:52 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GraceG

Giving BHO the benefit of the doubt, his rolling up so much debt certainly was playing into China’s hands and tying ours. Perhaps, despite wanting to do what’s best for the country, he simply couldn’t play it hard...


22 posted on 04/19/2012 8:04:54 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Reverend Wright

I wonder whom would be tinker tailer sailor, poor man and beggarman in the current administration. Perhaps they all are spies or collaborators so on that point we have equality in the executive branch.


23 posted on 04/20/2012 4:31:52 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Zhang Fei
Frenzied hours for US on fate of a China insider (Obama rejected Bo Xilai aide defection attempt)

In case anyone forgot, the Secretary of State is Hillary Clinton. What was her role in this? And why is she sitting on related documents that have been requested by the Congressional House Committee on Foreign Affairs?

Gee, Hillary obstructing justice. How unusual.

24 posted on 04/20/2012 6:25:03 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Zhang Fei

That’s a nice theoretical case - commercial intelligence assets - but we, all of us here, have no knowledge that the individual in question represents such an asset and thereby no basis for a case that we are ‘giving up’ such an asset.

Though it is important that we not limit our choices of commercial intelligence assets to Saints, the fact that the individual in question is not a Saint is not evidence that he was an intelligence asset or wanted to be.


25 posted on 05/23/2012 3:29:32 PM PDT by Wuli
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