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Confederate Memorial Day in Dixie
Huntington News ^ | April 17, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 04/19/2012 3:34:29 PM PDT by BigReb555

The South still remembers the men and women of the Confederate States of America who came from all races and religions that include: Cuban born Confederate Colonel Ambrosio Jose Gonzales, Irish-born General Patrick R. Cleburne and Black Confederate drummer Bill Yopp.

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Did you know that the first Memorial Day in America was held in the South in honor of both the soldiers of Union Blue and Confederate Gray?

Some folks call the War Between the States, 1861-1865, a lost cause but stories of the heroic- brave men and women who stood for Southern Independence are still cherished in the hearts and souls of many people throughout the South.

Why do people remember?

Tennessee Senator Edward Ward Carmack may have said it best in 1903; quote “The Confederate Soldiers were our kinfolk and our heroes. We testify to the country our enduring fidelity to their memory. We commemorate their valor and devotion. There were some things that were not surrendered at Appomattox. We did not surrender our rights and history; nor was it one of the conditions of surrender that unfriendly lips should be suffered to tell the story of that war or that unfriendly hands should write the epitaphs of the Confederate dead. We have the right to teach our children the true history of the war, the causes that led up to it and the principles involved.” unquote

That may be why….

The South still remembers the men and women of the Confederate States of America who came from all races and religions that include: Cuban born Confederate Colonel Ambrosio Jose Gonzales, Irish-born General Patrick R. Cleburne, Black Confederate drummer Bill Yopp, Mexican born Colonel Santos Benavides, Cherokee Born General Stand Watie and Jewish born Confederate Nurse Phoebe Pember who was the first female administrator of Chimboraza Hospital in Richmond, Virginia where she served until the end of the war.

In Richmond, Virginia there is a final resting place for Southern war dead. It is called the only Jewish military cemetery in the world outside the State of Israel. Here are the remains of Jewish soldiers who fought for the Confederacy.

A plaque was erected here by the Hebrew Ladies Memorial Association, organized in 1866, and lists the names of the soldiers buried here. The inscription reads: "To the glory of God and in memory of The Hebrew Confederate Soldiers resting in this hallowed spot." The State of Georgia has officially recognized April 26th as Confederate Memorial Day since 1874....And proclamations have been signed by Southern governors, commemorating April as Confederate History and Heritage Month since 1995.

Efforts to mark Confederate graves, erect monuments and hold memorial services were the idea of Mrs. Charles J. Williams. She was an educated and kind lady. Her husband served as Colonel of the 1st Georgia Regiment during the War Between the States. He died of disease in 1862, and was buried in his home town of Columbus, Georgia.

Mrs. Williams and her daughter visited his grave often and cleared the weeds, leaves and twigs from it, then placed flowers on it. Her daughter also pulled the weeds from other Confederate graves near her Father.

It saddened the little girl that their graves were unmarked. With tears of pride she said to her Mother, "These are my soldiers' graves." The daughter soon became ill and passed away in her childhood.

On a visit to the graves of her husband and daughter, Mrs. Williams looked at the unkept soldiers' graves and remembered her daughter as she cleaned the graves and what the little girl had said. She knew what she had to do.

Mrs. Williams wrote a letter that was published in Southern newspapers asking the women of the South for their help. She asked that memorial organizations be established to take care of the thousands of Confederate graves from the Potomac River to the Rio Grande. She also asked the state legislatures to set aside a day in April to remember the men who wore the gray. With her leadership April 26 was officially adopted in many states. She died in 1874, but not before her native state of Georgia adopted it as a legal holiday.

The Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans joins the nation in commemorating the Sesquicentennial--150th Anniversary of the War Between the States now through 2015. Read more at: http://www.150wbts.org/

1 posted on 04/19/2012 3:34:36 PM PDT by BigReb555
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To: BigReb555

The most devastating war we ever fought on so many levels. The casualties on both sides were just staggering.


2 posted on 04/19/2012 4:04:20 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: nnn0jeh

Ping


3 posted on 04/19/2012 4:09:28 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: KoRn

In the South, the toll was proportionally higher than for France in WWI 1914-1918.


4 posted on 04/19/2012 4:56:53 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: BigReb555
Sure they were brave, but they still lost.

The lesson, be evermore careful of who you pick as an enemy.

5 posted on 04/19/2012 5:29:21 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: BigReb555

Wikipedia on Answers.com:
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Confederate Memorial Day, also known as Confederate Decoration Day (Tennessee) and Confederate Heroes Day (Texas), is an official holiday and/or observance day in parts of the U.S. South as a day to honor those who died fighting for the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War. Nine states officially observe Confederate Memorial Day: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.[1]

States and dates observedState Date Remarks

Alabama Fourth Monday in April[2] The surrender of Confederate General Joseph E. Johnston to Union General William Sherman on April 26, 1865.

Arkansas Third Monday in January[3] Robert E. Lee’s birthday (state holiday combined with Martin Luther King, Jr. Day).

Florida April 26[4][5] See remarks at Alabama.

Georgia April 26[6] See remarks at Alabama.

Kentucky June 3[7] Jefferson Davis’s birthday.

Louisiana June 3[6][8] Jefferson Davis’s birthday. Set by state law, Louisiana Revised Statues 1:55

Maryland First Saturday of June

Mississippi Last Monday in April[9] See remarks at Alabama.

North Carolina May 10[6] The death of Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson in 1863 and the capture of Confederate president Jefferson Davis in 1865.

Pennsylvania Second Saturday in May Observed by the Pennsylvania Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

South Carolina May 10[10] See remarks at North Carolina.

Tennessee June 3[6] Jefferson Davis’s birthday.

Texas January 19[6] Confederate Heroes Day. In 1973, the Texas legislature combined the previously official state holidays of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis’ birthdays into a single “Confederate Heroes Day” to honor all who had served the Southern Cause. In some years, this date may coincide with Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. State offices are partially staffed in recognition of this day.

Texas April 26[6] Confederate Memorial Day. Texas’ official holiday is named Confederate Heroes Day and is celebrated on January 19. However, many local communities and Southern historical organizations within the state also observe a separate “Confederate Memorial Day” on April 26.

Virginia Last Monday in May[6] Same as Memorial Day.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/confederate-memorial-day#ixzz1pUoHIOzW


6 posted on 04/19/2012 5:53:09 PM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: BigReb555
The South still remembers the men and women of the Confederate States of America who came from all races and religions...

Yeah, but they had one big thing in common...they were all democRATs.

7 posted on 04/19/2012 6:02:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Many of my ancestors fought for the South and I am as proud of their service as the ones who fought in WWI up to Iraq. Comparing democrats 145+ years apart only denigrates their memory. The South aint democrat anymore and may be the last outpost of freedom against the leftist scum on both coasts and in the medis.


8 posted on 04/19/2012 6:31:00 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Many of my ancestors fought for the South and I am as proud of their service as the ones who fought in WWI up to Iraq. Comparing democrats 145+ years apart only denigrates their memory. The South aint democrat anymore and may be the last outpost of freedom against the leftist scum on both coasts and in the media.


9 posted on 04/19/2012 6:32:34 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Funny how so called conservatives from Yankee-Land are so stupid about the war of Southern Independence. You live in a sewer so your out look is crappy. We are actually proud of our heritage down here and are unapologetic about it. Go suck on a lobster.


10 posted on 04/19/2012 6:41:13 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
We are actually proud of our heritage down here

Yeah, well the Klan (the terrorist wing of the democRAT party) was founded by Confederate veterans (democrats)...continued and expanded by segregationist democRATs, to keep black people from voting for Republicans.

It worked! Now it's called the NAACP (more RATs).

By the way, I ain't no kind of "Yankee"...

11 posted on 04/19/2012 7:56:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Psalm 144

Blame it on bad medical care.


12 posted on 04/19/2012 9:59:42 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: central_va

There you have it folks, straight from the sewer itself to all you other sewer-dwellers, North and South. Boy, irony is lost on you ,ain’t it Johnny Reb?


13 posted on 04/19/2012 10:04:21 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: central_va
Funny how so called conservatives from Yankee-Land are so stupid about the war of Southern Independence. You live in a sewer so your out look is crappy

Known as optic-rectal-itis
:)-
14 posted on 04/20/2012 3:58:44 AM PDT by D1X1E
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You sound like some kind of Yankee to me. BTW name one conservative legislator from New England, or from the north east for that matter.


15 posted on 04/20/2012 4:12:26 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: jmacusa

Why don’t you take your insults of my confederate ancestors down the hall bubba.......


16 posted on 04/20/2012 4:13:56 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

I should think identifying oneself as a Confederate insult enough. I’m an American ‘’bubba’’, what are you?


17 posted on 04/20/2012 10:46:51 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: All

Grab my shootin arn, ma. There’s Yankees at the door.

Slavery was the cancer that finally killed the Confederacy. The South got in bed with Satan and paid the price for it. My ancestors fought for the South. My GGGrandfather was killed at Appomattox.


18 posted on 04/20/2012 10:51:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: AppyPappy
One thing that often gets lost in the bluff, bluster and bullspit of these WBTS threads is the acknowledgment of the honor of the soldiers - on both sides. I say disagree however you will with the actions of the politicians and even the generals but leave the soldiers be.

Remember them for their courage, their dedication , and their sacrifice.

19 posted on 04/20/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit is it? Where in the post did I call myself a confederate dumbass!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 04/20/2012 4:34:56 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

12 hours and counting. Still waiting for that example of a NE U.S. conservative.


21 posted on 04/20/2012 4:36:47 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

“Confederate ancestors’’. Modern day Confederate, dumbass, now run along Reb.


22 posted on 04/21/2012 6:28:27 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

F off newbie, with the rest of your liberal friends.


23 posted on 04/21/2012 6:50:02 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957
You sound like some kind of Yankee to me.

No, I just live here, I'm "from away"...a "flatlander" so to speak.

Some of the folks from here are insulted by the term Yankee, that's for liberal city folks from Boston and New York. The hardcore northern coastal types call themselves Downeastahs.

BTW name one conservative legislator from New England, or from the north east for that matter.

Well, I don't know about any Congresscritters, ours are all pretty liberal, but our Governor LePage is a fairly crusty rock-ribbed conservative.

24 posted on 04/21/2012 5:29:34 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: catfish1957

Sorry, I have to work, and work, and work. Last night I got home, went to bed, got up, went to work.

As far as I know, I had no ancestors on either side of the Civil War.


25 posted on 04/21/2012 5:38:19 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Some folks get their panties in a twist over monikers like "yankee' and "reb"...it must gall them that to significant numbers of Australians, South Americans, Brits, and Europeans we are all referred to as yanks ;-)
26 posted on 04/21/2012 7:48:18 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: catfish1957

Right back at you a-hole. Liberal? Hah! You’re the liberal stupid. Coming to a conservative web-site venerating a bunch a Dixiecrats. Boy, irony is sure lost on you.


27 posted on 04/21/2012 8:24:51 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Leftist Yankee punks like you are a dime a dozen. Why don’t you take your silly ass back to du where you belong?


28 posted on 04/22/2012 1:39:29 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

Sorry Reb, I’m a conservative, not a Leftie. It’s you who should be a DU. You’re the one venerating Dixiecrats.


29 posted on 04/22/2012 7:04:26 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Liberal Troll..... I have been here extolling conservative causes over over a 11 years. You less than 2. Take your liberal, reading comprehensive limited ass back to du where it belongs. I bet you are from the NE. Lot of RINO pseudo-conservatives there. Mittens your hero?


30 posted on 04/23/2012 3:46:37 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

My hero is Duncan Hunter. And Sarah Palin. And yes I’m from the Northeast. So what? You think we’re all liberals here, is that it? You’ve got a lot to learn boy.


31 posted on 04/23/2012 7:00:18 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: BigReb555

All races and religions? Asians? East Asians? Muslims? Shintos? Hindus? Polynesians? Australian Aborigines?


32 posted on 04/23/2012 7:08:11 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: jmacusa
Sonny, my hero is Ronald Reagan. I figured you were a kid.

You think we're all liberals here?

uh..... yes., or pseudo conservatives.

33 posted on 04/24/2012 2:32:23 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: AppyPappy
"Slavery was the cancer that finally killed the Confederacy. The South got in bed with Satan and paid the price for it."

We should remember that slavery existed in the North, too. It just ended sooner.

34 posted on 04/24/2012 5:57:52 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: jmacusa

Your comment to a fellow Freeper is rude.

As a Freeper you owe it to yourself to learn more about the War Between the States.

There were many many brave Confederate soldiers who fought to retain the rights of their states over the rights of the federal government.

As originally intended the federal government has no right to intervene in states’ issues. I personally do not want the federal government forcing states to allow voting with no ID or forcing states to stop arresting illegals.

The war that you call the Civil War was actually a War for the Rights of States to determine their own laws in certain areas.

You would find it interesting and perhaps have a better appreciation for those who gave their lives if you learned more about that war.


35 posted on 04/24/2012 6:11:14 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
As a Freeper you owe it to yourself to learn more about the War Between the States. There were many many brave Confederate soldiers who fought to retain the rights of their states over the rights of the federal government.

Since you have learned so much about the War Between the States, exactly what rights was the Federal Government attempting to take away from the states in 1860 that lead to secession?

What violations had the Federal Government done to any of those states?

Since you know so much, please be specific on how the Federal Government violated the Constituitional Compact with the States?

36 posted on 04/24/2012 6:18:50 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: ohioman
The South aint democrat anymore and may be the last outpost of freedom against the leftist scum on both coasts and in the media.

Just in my memory they voted for LBJ and Jimmy Carter (won every Southern State except Virginia) and lots of them for Bill Clinton, and even in Virginia and North Carolina for Barak Obama. Go back before my memory, and FDR and his Socialist Big Government agenda won every southern state by large majorities FOUR freaking times!

It wasn't until northern Republican transplants like Gingrich, Paul, Barr, McCllumun etc. gained a foothold that the 'Solid South' Democrat machine was broken.

Thank the transplanted Yankee Republicans for that blessing. Other than those kind of guys, the 'good ol' boy machines would still be operating.

Spare me the crap about the last output of freedom. Maybe Wyoming or Alaska can take that title, but every Southern state is just as tied the the Federal tit today as the rest of the Nation. Since FDR, we're all scrambling for 'free federal dollars.' That's our problem.

We send people to Washington to try to get back some of our money that Washington shouldn't have in the first place.

37 posted on 04/24/2012 6:45:33 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: ladyjane
There were many many brave Confederate soldiers who fought to retain the rights of their states over the rights of the federal government.

And there were many many brave Union soldiers who fought to retain the rights of their nation against the violent and illegal acts of insurrectionists. That works, too.

Or how about, "There were many many brave soldiers who fought a cause that they believed in". I can go for that...;-)

38 posted on 04/24/2012 8:24:00 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: catfish1957

Actually sonny boy I was 24 in 1980 and voted for Ronald Reagan.


39 posted on 04/24/2012 8:34:05 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: ladyjane

Madame, spare me your revisionist history. As I’ve stated it strikes me odd to see people coming to conservative web-site venerating a bunch of Dixiecrats like Jeff Davis and the CSA. The South fought to preserve the institution of slavery. They certainly weren’t fighting to free the slaves. My ancestors fought to preserve the Union. Learn the history yourself before lecturing me. And as to being rude, I’ve been cursed at here and even threatened so again,as much as a gentleman as I am, spare me your faux indignation.


40 posted on 04/24/2012 8:41:53 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ditto

The South is the most conservative part of the country. I can see that all the from Ohio dumbass! Why don’t you take your liberal trype to DU. They’ll love you for it there.


41 posted on 04/26/2012 10:37:32 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Ditto
The South is the most conservative part of the country. I can see that all the WAY from OHIO dumbass! Why don't you take your liberal tripe to DU. They'll love you for it there. I (Like most on FR) honor those who fought on both sides of the war. They were ALL Americans.
42 posted on 04/26/2012 10:39:21 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Wow. That was such a cleaver comment you figured it was worth posting twice. < /s >


43 posted on 04/27/2012 6:51:17 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Ditto

Well, you can bet that most on FR agree with me.


44 posted on 04/30/2012 5:48:23 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: CatherineofAragon
We should remember that slavery existed in the North, too. It just ended sooner.

That to is a myth!

Mr. Lincoln's emancipation only freed slave in areas he had no control over.

45 posted on 04/30/2012 5:56:59 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: BigReb555

BTTT


46 posted on 04/30/2012 6:03:06 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ladyjane
There were many many brave Confederate soldiers who fought to retain the rights of their states over the rights of the federal government.

Yes, the completely bogus "right" to own another human being as chattel.

What a noble, noble cause.

47 posted on 04/30/2012 6:10:41 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: jmacusa
You want to talk about revisionist history? OK! Let do that!

St. George Tucker. Ever heard of him? Well since I know the answer to that question I'll just tell you who he was, what he did , and what he had to say about a few things.

St. George Tucker was a noted legal scholar and Jurist who published (1803) a 5 volume work that was THE law book in every school of law in the country for 50 years and NO ONE is on record disputing anything in it for all of that period of time.

Here are a couple of things he had to say about states and their rights in that great work!

Although the federal government can, in no possible view, be considered as a party to a compact made anterior to its existence, and by which it was, in fact, created; yet as the creature of that compact, it must be bound by it, to its creators, the several states in the union, and the citizens thereof. Having no existence but under the constitution, nor any rights, but such as that instrument confers; and those very rights being in fact duties; it can possess no legitimate power, but such, as is absolutely necessary for the performance of a duty, prescribed and enjoined by the constitution. Its duties, then, become the exact measure of its powers; and wherever it exerts a power for any other purpose, than the performance of a duty prescribed by the constitution, it transgresses its proper limits, and violates the public trust. Its duties, being moreover imposed for the general benefit and security of the several states, in their politic character; and of the people, both in their sovereign, and individual capacity, if these objects be not obtained, the government will not answer the end of its creation: it is therefore bound to the several states, respectively, and to every citizen thereof, for the due execution of those duties. And the observance of this obligation is enforced, by the solemn sanction of an oath, from all who administer the government.

The constitution of the United States, then being that instrument by which the federal government hath been created; its powers defined, and limited; and the duties, and functions of its several departments prescribed; the government, thus established, may be pronounced to be a confederate republic, composed of several independent, and sovereign democratic states, united for their common defence, and security against foreign nations, and for the purposes of harmony, and mutual intercourse between each other; each state retaining an entire liberty of exercising, as it thinks proper, all those parts of its sovereignty, which are not mentioned in the constitution, or act of union, as parts that ought to be exercised in common. It is the supreme law of the land, and as such binding upon the federal government; the several states; and finally upon all the citizens of the United States.... It can not be controlled, or altered without the express consent of the body politic of three fourths of the states in the union, or, of the people, of an equal number of the states. To prevent the necessity of an immediate appeal to the latter, a method is pointed out, by which amendments may be proposed and ratified by the concurrent act of two thirds of both houses of congress, and three fourths of the state legislatures: but if congress should neglect to propose amendments in this way, when they may be deemed necessary, the concurrent sense of two thirds of the state legislatures may enforce congress to call a convention, the amendments proposed by which, when ratified by the conventions of three fourths of the states, become valid, as a part of the constitution. In either mode, the assent of the body politic of the states, is necessary, either to complete, or to originate the measure.

Their submission to it’s operation is voluntary: it’s councils, it’s engagements, it’s authority are theirs, modified, and united. It’s sovereignty is an emanation from theirs, not a flame by which they have been consumed, nor a vortex in which they are swallowed up. Each is still a perfect state, still sovereign, still independent, and still capable, should the occasion require, to resume the exercise of it’s functions, as such, in the most unlimited extent.

excerpted from:

BLACKSTONE'S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE, TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS, OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES; AND OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. IN FIVE VOLUMES. WITH AN APPENDIX TO EACH VOLUME, CONTAINING SHORT TRACTS UPON SUCH SUBJECTS AS APPEARED NECESSARY TO FORM A CONNECTED VIEW OF THE LAWS OF VIRGINIA, AS A MEMBER OF THE FEDERAL UNION. BY ST. GEORGE TUCKER, PROFESSOR OF LAW, IN THE UNIVERSITY OF WILLIAM AND MARY, AND ONE OF THE JUDGES OF THE GENERAL COURT IN VIRGINIA. PHILADELPHIA: PUBLISHED BY WILLIAM YOUNG BIRCH, AND ABRAHAM SMALL, NO. 17, SOUTH SECOND-STREET. ROBERT CARR, PRINTER. 1803.

You don't know anything about it because it has conveniently been ERASED from public school history texts!

48 posted on 04/30/2012 6:28:37 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: catfish1957
-BTW name one conservative legislator from New England, or from the north east for that matter.

Gov. Paul LePage and Sen. Kelly Ayotte are two elected conservatives that come to mind. Carl Palidino and Rick Santorum are two conservative candidates who have recently run for office. One might argue that the election of Scott Brown for the seat held by Ted Kennedy was a victory for conservatives also.

Not sure what the point of this exercise is, but there are plenty of conservatives in the Northeast and I'm quite sure more than those I've named serving in office at the state and county levels.

49 posted on 04/30/2012 6:38:36 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: jmacusa
One more small contribution to enhance your apparent severely limited education.

"The Federal Government is the creature of the States. It is not a party to the Constitution, but the result of it the creation of that agreement which was made by the States as parties. It is a mere agent, entrusted with limited powers for certain specific objects; which powers and objects are enumerated in the Constitution. Shall the agent be permitted to judge the extent of its own powers, without reference to his constituent? To a certain extent, he is compelled to do this, in the very act of exercising them, but always in subordination to the authority by whom his powers were conferred. If this were not so, the result would be, that the agent would possess every power which the agent could confer, notwithstanding the plainest and most express terms of the grant. This would be against all principle and all reason. If such a rule would prevail in regard to government, a written constitution would be the idlest thing imaginable. It would afford no barrier against the usurpations of the government, and no security for the rights and liberties of the people. If then the Federal Government has no authority to judge, in the last resort, of the extent of its own powers, with what propriety can it be said that a single department of that government may do so? Nay. It is said that this department may not only judge for itself, but for the other departments also. This is an absurdity as pernicious as it is gross and palpable. If the judiciary may determine the powers of the Federal Government, it may pronounce them either less or more than they really are. "

Abel Upshur, The Federal government: Its true nature and character (Abel Upshur served as Secretary of the Navy from 1841-43 and was the United States Secretary of State in 1845)

50 posted on 04/30/2012 6:41:14 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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