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Dozens under arrest in China in connection with Bo Xilai scandal
Telegraph ^ | 04/18/12 | Malcolm Moore

Posted on 04/19/2012 7:30:12 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Dozens under arrest in China in connection with Bo Xilai scandal

China has detained dozens people with connections to Bo Xilai, it was claimed as the Communist party pledged to "thoroughly investigate" the politician and his wife's alleged role in the death of British businessman Neil Heywood.

By Malcolm Moore, Chongqing

5:40PM BST 18 Apr 2012

At least 39 people are thought to be being held, alongside Mr Bo, in the seaside town of Beidaihe, a favourite retreat for Communist party leaders.

"The detainees include Xu Ming, who had a very special relationship with Mr Bo, and some of the people who worked with him," said Wang Kang, a well-connected independent scholar and public figure in Chongqing who is the only person with inside information on Mr Bo's removal from power to go on the record.

"The detainees are mainly people from Dalian and other places, not from Chongqing," he added. Mr Xu is one of China's richest men, a billionaire who heads the Dalian Shide industrial conglomerate. The 41-year-old has not been seen at the company since mid-March.

One of the people in custody is Xia Deling, the former party chief of Nan'an district in Chongqing, the area in which Mr Heywood's body was discovered, on November 15, in the Nanshan Lijing Holiday Hotel.

Mr Xia has been rumoured to have supplied the cyanide that killed Mr Heywood. However, Mr Wang suggested that this is unlikely. "Xia Deling was promoted from the countryside to his post in Nan'an, skipping up two ranks, so he was very loyal. But I do not think he would have personally obtained the poison," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boxilai; china; purge
As for Neil Heywood, it is very stupid of him to demand bigger cut from stashed fund in return for moving it offshore and manage it, making threat that he will expose it if he does not have his way.

Bo's are not people you can jerk around. I suspect there are many people like Neil Heywood, foreigners with great connection to powerful Chinese figures. It is good for their health that they should not jerk their Chinese patrons around. I am surprised at Heywood's sheer lapse of judgement.

1 posted on 04/19/2012 7:30:19 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigersEye

Pei-Ping.


2 posted on 04/19/2012 7:33:35 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; a fool in paradise

The dog leader’s name in this affair is, please note, Bo! (there’s also a Mrs Bo.)


3 posted on 04/19/2012 7:36:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...
Gu Kailai is said to have had a hard life in her early life. Her family were all purged and sent countryside during Cultural Revolution. She was just an elementary school kid when it happened. She was left alone in Beijing. She had to survive on her own. She dropped out of middle school, and started working. As a hairdresser, and then a cook. She was said to be great with her hand, especially when it comes to chopping meat. It was so good that people used to gather around her and marvel at her skill. This continued until Mao's era ended and his family were finally reinstated.

You can push around a person like this. She is a tough survivor.

4 posted on 04/19/2012 7:37:04 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Correction: You cancan't push around a person like this.
5 posted on 04/19/2012 7:39:45 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Everyone is worried about the Bo in the White House becoming dinner, but this guy might be ending that way too.


6 posted on 04/19/2012 7:51:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This will expand beyond a “criminal investigation” into a purge and revenge. Divving up the loot (and there is a lot of loot) will encourage even more betrayals and revenge. Is there a leader who can manage to contain/control all this?


7 posted on 04/19/2012 7:53:40 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

hand.

singular?


8 posted on 04/19/2012 7:55:27 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

LOL. My bad. Sorry.


9 posted on 04/19/2012 8:00:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I was thinking they might have cut off her hand when she was a kid or something and she overcame it! :p


10 posted on 04/19/2012 8:03:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 1010RD
Is there a leader who can manage to contain/control all this?

The words out of Beijing is that they started to realize that this thing can get out of control, threatening the communist regime itself. They are reportedly trying to reach a deal, between anti-Bo faction and the rest, to contain the fallout. I think they should for their own good. I think nobody in top leadership has enough power to single-handedly carry this purge to the end and prevail.

11 posted on 04/19/2012 8:04:56 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; Avenger; ...

P!


12 posted on 04/19/2012 8:06:54 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks again TLR for another great report. You are my best source.


13 posted on 04/19/2012 8:24:40 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I think it should be remembered, Bo Xilai was/is a very strict and devoted Maoist.

Temper our thoughts and words with this fact.
14 posted on 04/19/2012 9:34:59 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Agreed.

I’m pretty much astonished, if even a quarter of what is being alleged, actually was happening.

I mean, one simply does not do such things. I’ll not get too specific, but what in the world, was he thinking??

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape.

You don’t spit, into the wind.

You don’t pull, the mask off of the Lone Ranger.

And you most certainly do not. Even. Consider ...

That.

Good grief.


15 posted on 04/19/2012 9:40:53 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Don't eat dogs)
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To: Tainan
I don't doubt that he made his political platform around Maoism. The trouble is that it sells in China, because of the mess ruling elites created. He reminds me of Thailand's Thaksin. He bought rural votes with his populist program, while he was reviled by city elites and educated classes, while he is corrupt to the core and amassed lots of fortune. In Bo's case, he is also a ruthless communist politician, who can unleash his own brand of repression.

China won't be getting far in political development. Either you have corrupt incestuous cabals of powerful political figures, bureaucrats, and associated businessmen, or retro red cabals like Bo, though they are equally corrupt and greedy. I am not saying that Bo is a nice guy. But, I am saying that the view that Bo is the bad guy and his opponents are good guys is not true.

People say about rosy scenario of China smoothly progressing politically. It won't be happening. Chinese drew lessons from Soviet Union's fall. So they won't be bowing out peacefully. Tension and conflict will rise among ruling elites.

The Chinese official facade that Bo is a bad guy and China will be moving forward after disposing of Bo is not the case. What awaits Chinese is QE to the n-th power to hold off eventual reckoning, which only opens the door for somebody worse than Bo.

Even without Bo, somebody with Bo's general idea will come forward. In current Chinese context, reform means "stick it to corrupt fat cats." That is how little people think and the idea of "reform" will be accordingly shaped. The reform movement will be like another reincarnated peasant uprising, which leads to Mao-like political system.

I don't root for anybody in this fight, but it is following exactly the path I projected. The accuser is no better than the accused, and ordinary Chinese appear to agree. Therein the cause for great concern by current ruling camp.

16 posted on 04/19/2012 9:56:29 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Things are going to get out of control.”

Seems like real danger to me. Maybe our President can exert his masterful influence and calm things down a bit.


17 posted on 04/19/2012 9:58:18 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: TigerLikesRooster
TLR -
Good points all and I, for the most part, agree with you.
Bo was actually 'doing something' tha the 'people' could relate to in their everyday life. He was making a visible difference tha was interpreted as being for the better.
And since his area has a population of 30,000,000 + people, it was showing up on the Beijing radar screens.
This, coupled with the fact that his wife was skimming lots of $$$$s off of this, has created something the Chinese hate...attention.
Its a historical fact that the worst thing a "rich" Chinese can do is "look rich." This is an unforgivable sin in the eyes of the traditional Chinese. They might know the person is rich, they will envy this persons' wealth, but damn them to hell if they act "rich." It looks like Gu violated this.
Intrigues and drama are a staple of Chinese history. The locals eat this up with their morning soup.

I Love it !
18 posted on 04/19/2012 10:05:18 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
a billionaire who heads the Dalian Shide industrial conglomerate. The 41-year-old has not been seen at the company since mid-March.

I just think this is funny. Billionaires just disappear all the time! Nothing to see here!

If anyone wants to understand Chinese politics, just think of the Clintons in charge, and imagine that the USA was controlled by the Democrat party for the last 60 years

19 posted on 04/19/2012 10:32:54 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Excellent analysis!


20 posted on 04/20/2012 12:04:41 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Tainan; TigerLikesRooster

-—I think it should be remembered, Bo Xilai was/is a very strict and devoted Maoist.——

How do they reconcile Maoist communism with their fascist state? Is State-capitalism a strategic retreat until the final revolution? Or is the leadership simply paying lip service to communism, for lack of a better idea?


21 posted on 04/20/2012 4:25:50 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; TigerLikesRooster
My take on it is this. Maoism is fundamentally a cult of personality. This changed after the death of Mao and the trials, and subsequent tribulations, of Madame Mao and the "Gang of Four." Deng Xiaoping emerged as the leader and then began the switch to party loyalty rather than loyalty to Chairman Mao.
This is a very abbreviated over view.

IMO, Bo was seen as a new 'personality' figure in his district and this was deemed to be a threat to the central PRC in Beijing.
Remember, his area was a long way from Beijing party central and his area is home to 30 million + people. A very sizable constituency.

Thats my quick take on why this happened.
Also, his wife was found out to be a large scale crook. That makes for 'bad face.'
22 posted on 04/20/2012 4:46:23 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan

Thank you.


23 posted on 04/20/2012 5:49:46 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In current Chinese context, reform means “stick it to corrupt fat cats.” That is how little people think and the idea of “reform” will be accordingly shaped.


Wow, souunds kind of like BO’s platform. You know the one presently occupying our WH.


24 posted on 04/20/2012 7:44:48 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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