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Coroner: Breitbart Died of Heart Failure
breitbart ^ | 4/20/12 | Breitbart News

Posted on 04/20/2012 5:48:42 PM PDT by Nachum

The office of the Los Angeles County coroner has completed its investigation into the death of Andrew Breitbart on March 1, and has confirmed that he died of natural causes, namely heart failure.

Chief Coroner Investigator Craig Harvey told Breitbart News that the final autopsy report would be released next week.

A press release issued by the Department of Coroner (below) notes: "No prescription or illicit drugs were detected. The blood alcohol was .04%," a negligible amount.

The press release concludes: "No significant trauma was present and foul play is not suspected."

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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To: Cincinna

With all due respect, this is not a memorial thread, but a thread discussing what killed him.

BTW, my opinion on medication is not intended to be considered medical advice. Sorry I didn’t add a disclaimer to my original post. Good day to you.


101 posted on 04/21/2012 4:28:50 AM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Well I would hope that we could trust the coroner’s final results. At least I hope we could trust it”

Uh-hu. Whenever a man with the type of enemies the Progressivist/Communists in our government are, one has to at least consider murder.


102 posted on 04/21/2012 5:25:17 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks, and Bless You for bringing this to our attention.

Will send a check.

BTW, I am not “bickering”. I am trying to educate my fellow Freepers on what I learned serving the fedgov.

Hits, professional hits, almost always look like illness or accidents. The hitmen study the Mark to see what vulnerabilities he might have. Heart problems? Overweight? The pros can MAKE that coronary event happen.

Such hits are carried out for organized crime, various governments, and even major corporations. In the 1980s I saw two hits, one on a friend, made by a major corporation listed on the stock exchange. My friend was suing them for wrongful termination.

I’m not paranoid; I am experienced.


103 posted on 04/21/2012 5:28:56 AM PDT by darth
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To: grey_whiskers

Saved. Thanks.


104 posted on 04/21/2012 7:33:00 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Nachum

If only I could believe the cornoner’s office was above being corrupted. I don’t. So, I don’t really know whether or not this coroner’s finding is true.


105 posted on 04/21/2012 7:38:48 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

I never believed in conspiracies until this administration came along. These days my tin foil hat is getting a workout.

But at this point I don’t believe Mr. Breitbart’s death was caused by anything more than heart disease.


106 posted on 04/21/2012 8:01:01 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: _Jim
Ummm ... just what is ‘heart failure’ anyway?

Can they be more specific?

And then, what causes heart failure?

It just means pump failure, but there are many causes, e.g. one or more myocardial infarctions, aka heart attacks, various types of valvular heart disease, various types of conduction abnormalities, congenital or aquired cardiomyopathies, etc. The bottom line is that it can't pump enough blood.

107 posted on 04/21/2012 11:01:05 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Heart failure doesnt say anything.

Heart failure secondary to what?


108 posted on 04/21/2012 4:08:51 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: okie01; netmilsmom; Sarah Barracuda

Briebhart died soon after he said he was going to make a big announcement. That big announcement was not about the merging of Briebart’s websites.

See here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2875177/posts


109 posted on 04/22/2012 2:11:09 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Thank you!


110 posted on 04/22/2012 2:48:04 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Nachum

Sometimes God calls good men home early. RIP.


111 posted on 04/22/2012 2:52:49 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: ntnychik

Two weeks ago in my town, there was a teen age boy who got up one morning and dropped over dead. He was pitcher on the baseball team. They discovered that he had a heart defect.


112 posted on 04/22/2012 6:12:31 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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To: null and void

Yes. We do.


113 posted on 04/24/2012 9:53:04 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun

We certainly know what they want us to know.


114 posted on 04/24/2012 9:59:12 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

They? Oh no. Not the dreaded “they”!! You are making my hair hurt.


115 posted on 04/24/2012 10:27:37 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun

Yes. That they.

At least you still have hair...


116 posted on 04/24/2012 10:35:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1190 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

LOL


117 posted on 04/24/2012 10:53:56 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Moonman62

Actually, his father-in-law told reporters initially that he didn’t know of any heart problems that Andrew had. In the same article, the spokesman for the coroner’s office said he hadn’t seen a doctor for over a year. Then when people started wondering if he had been a victim of a heart attack dart - which leaves no signs in toxicology reports and the only sign it DOES leave is the small prick-hole where the dart went in (looks like a bug bite) - his friends started claiming that he had been suffering heart problems. First off it was a claim that he had moved his office closer to home because he was having heart problems, then it was that he had been taking medication, then it was that he had been hospitalized for 2 weeks after a heart attack.

But this toxicology report makes all of those sound suspicious - especially when taken with the 2 conflicting claims from the coroner’s office - that he hadn’t seen a doctor in over a year and that he had no prescription medicines in his system.

A person who’d had a heart attack within the last year and wanted to be around to take care of his little kids - AND to come out with damaging information on Obama before the next election - would take heart meds to keep from having another heart attack.

Add to that what we know now: that the technician in the coroner’s office who apparently did photography for special cases died of arsenic poisoning the day before this report came out.

Nothing in this report contradicts a heart attack dart. It does contradict chronic heart problems or a heart attack within the last year. And the person who may have photographed the body - one of the only people who would definitely know whether the photos of the dart entry hole were subsequently manipulated or deleted - was killed by arsenic poisoning the day before this report came out.

Also keep in mind that Breitbart fell to the ground dead less than 5 hours after telling Joe Arpaio that Joe’s evidence regarding Obama’s fraud and forgeries was good and that he was glad Joe would be reporting it to the public the next day. The day Breitbart died was the day that Joe’s posse reported probable cause for fraud and forgery on Obama’s BC and draft registration, and the same day that Rush Limbaugh received a bomb scare. For some strange reason, the press refused to report the evidence that was shown at that presser... They were too busy reporting on Breitbart’s death. (And they haven’t reported on the evidence TO THIS DAY).


118 posted on 04/28/2012 1:20:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: webheart

Would an infusion of potassium cause him to be bright red? Do you know an explanation for the bright red color of his skin, as reported by a witness?


119 posted on 04/28/2012 1:25:36 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: digger48

The people close to him made a lot of claims about his health but his father-in-law initially said that he knew of no heart problems, and the coroner’s office has said that he hadn’t seen a doctor in over a year and there were no prescription drugs in his body - which contradict the claims by his “close friends”.

Someone who is not allowed to be sourced here (because he apparently believes some of the 911 truther stuff) interviewed Jerry Corsi, and in that interview this guy said he had spoken to several people who were close to Breitbart who said the people close to him know it was an assassination.

Which would explain why they would put out disinformation (even though it would be contradicted by the coroner’s report) and why they refuse to report on Sheriff Joe’s findings - which Andrew had affirmed personally to Sheriff Joe less than 5 hours before he died.


120 posted on 04/28/2012 1:31:59 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: darth

Did you see hits that were intended to threaten the survivors? If so, was the timing the way to get the threatening message across while still having plausible deniability because it could be explained as a “natural death”?

See, it’s a delicate situation to have the death be an obvious assassination to those who are supposed to shut up as a result of the assassination, and yet not be obvious to anybody else because the general public isn’t supposed to know that the US government does assassinations. To my way of thinking, the timing would be the critical element.

And in Breitbart’s case, he died less than 5 hours after telling Sheriff Joe that his evidence of Obama’s BC and draft registration forgery and fraud was good. The same day as Arpaio’s presser announcing probable cause for those crimes. And the same day as Rush Limbaugh received a bomb scare.

It just occurred to me now that the bomb scare for Rush may have been in the works as the big story for the press to cover instead of Arpaio’s presser, but the people listening in on Breitbart may have heard his comments to Arpaio and feared that he would report on Arpaio’s findings if they didn’t get rid of him, so they did away with him and that ended up being the big story. The Rush thing still happened as scheduled but even it was overshadowed by the emergency assassination they had to do as a result of Breitbart’s phone conversation with Arpaio.

In any event, it worked. The press didn’t report Arpaio’s evidence - that day or any day since. Breitbart’s company says it’s still going to vet Obama but they won’t touch Obama’s BC and draft forgery and fraud - claiming those federal felonies aren’t important enough to report. (Somebody who spoke to Andrew’s close friends said they were aware that it was an assassination, and their censorship of just that one issue, Obama’s eligibility, says they know that was what the assassination was about) Sean Hannity had responded to Breitbart’s death by saying he would fully vet Obama no matter what the cost (indicating he knew there would be a cost) - and scheduled to have Mike Zullo of Arpaio’s posse on his show. But then at the last minute Fox cancelled.

The ducks all line up in a row.


121 posted on 04/28/2012 1:51:41 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: WashingtonSource

Well.... we now know that the day before this report came out, one of the technicians in the coroner’s office was killed by arsenic poisoning... Seems like he was the person who sometimes did the photographing for special cases. May have been the one who photographed Andrew’s body.

The only indicator of a heart attack dart assassination is the prick-hole where the dart entered the body. If the photos of the body were either manipulated or replaced, the guy who took the photos would be one of the few people to know. And he may be the guy who was killed the day before this report came out.

Does that help convince you that the coroner’s office is above being corrupted?

Keep in mind that we already know of 2 issues related to Obama’s eligibility where threats were made. The media was threatened if they reported the eligibility issue, and the Clintons gave up their plans to reveal Obama’s ineligibility after Bill’s good friend (the chairman of the Arkansas Democratic Party, Bill Gwatney) was killed shortly after he agreed to present a petition to the DNC Convention. The person who agreed to do it in his place, Stephanie Tubbs, died of a supposed anyeurism within days of agreeing to do so. This all happened within about a week, and the Clintons gave up on pursuing Obama’s eligibility problem.

Andrew Breitbart had spoken with Joe Arpaio less than 5 hours before his death, and told Joe that his evidence of Obama’s fraud and forgery were good and that he was glad it would be reported.

The coroner’s office has now issued two different statements which contradict Andrew’s close friends’ claims that he was being treated for heart problems: the statement that he had not seen a doctor in over a year, and the toxicology finding that there were no prescription drugs in his body. Somebody who has spoken to Breitbart’s close friends said in an interview with Jerry Corsi that those friends know it was an assassination. Which explains why they are so adamant about their claims which are contradicted by the coroner’s statements.


122 posted on 04/28/2012 2:03:49 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; melancholy

Melancholy, butterdezillion makes a series of excellent comments.


123 posted on 04/28/2012 2:27:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: webheart

If potassium poisoning was done through a drink would there be any way of knowing it was potassium poisoning?

How fast would death come from potassium in a drink? How fast would it come from poison in a heart attack dart? Is it an instant thing?

How fast does arsenic poisoning kill somebody? Does it have to be ingested, or can it also be supplied through a dart? The guy who may have photographed Breitbart’s body is believed to have died from arsenic poisoning at 10:30pm on the day the toxicology results were reported. (I had earlier said the day before the results were reported but I’ve seen more detailed/accurate reports now.)

Are either potassium or arsenic able to tasted if they are ingested?


124 posted on 04/28/2012 2:51:02 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Texas Songwriter

Do you know much about how a coroner’s office works?

Also, do you know if a death certificate is on hold until the final cause of death is determined when there is an autopsy?

The two things the coroner’s office has said which relate to the questions you asked are these: the coroner’s office said right away that Breitbart hadn’t seen a doctor for over a year, and now the toxicology report says there were no prescription or illicit drugs in his body. What does that suggest to you regarding his heart history?

In a previous post I asked heartweb some questions about potassium and arsenic poisoning; since you’re a medical person, any insight you might have about those things would be greatly appreciated as well. =)


125 posted on 04/28/2012 3:05:43 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: EEGator
My husband's uncle died suddenly of a heart attack at a fairly young age. We saw him at Christmas and he was very gray in his face, not red. 1 month later he dropped dead.

RIP Breitbart, we miss you.

126 posted on 04/28/2012 3:12:15 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: butterdezillion
Nothing in this report contradicts a heart attack dart. It does contradict chronic heart problems or a heart attack within the last year.

I don't know how to verify all your claims, but heart failure, barring recent ischemia or an acute valve problem, is a chronic condition.

127 posted on 04/28/2012 5:45:17 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

By “chronic condition” I meant a known health problem that he was being treated for. His father-in-law initially said that he knew of no heart problems for Andrew and then the stories started changing, getting progressively worse as there was more talk about whether he could have been assassinated with a heart attack gun. I think the latest version had him in the hospital for a couple weeks with a massive heart attack sometime within the last year.

The same news report that had the father-in-law saying he knew of no heart problems for Andrew also said the spokesman for the coroner’s office said that Andrew hadn’t seen a doctor for over a year. Neither that, nor the toxicology result finding no prescription drugs in his system fits the stories that his friends were saying.

Someone who had spoken to several of Breitbart’s close friends said in an interview with Jerome Corsi that contrary to what was being said in public, his friends know that it was an assassination. The public stories are disinformation because they are scared.

And there is no question that they are scared. When Mark Gillar interviewed Ben Shapiro, Ben said that the Breitbart “bigs” weren’t going to address Arpaio’s findings - probable cause for forgery and fraud on Obama’s BC and draft registration - because those federal felonies just aren’t important enough to talk about. That’s not what Andrew Breitbart told Joe Arpaio over the phone less than 5 hours before he was killed. Breitbart said Joe’s evidence was good and that he was glad Arpaio was going public with it.

Sean Hannity, in response to Breitbart’s death, said he would thoroughly vet Obama no matter what it cost. He scheduled Mike Zullo, head of Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse, to be on his show. But at the last minute Fox canceled.

Now the guy who may have photographed Breitbart’s body - revealing the only sign of an assassination by heart attack gun (a small red entry hole) - seems to have been killed by arsenic poisoning, during the phase after the finding the public would take at face value (the toxicology report, which would not show anything fishy if a heart attack gun was used) but before the full autopsy was finished (which would include the photos of the body).

Definitely suspicious stuff going on.


128 posted on 04/28/2012 6:24:49 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
This looks exactly like the case of Carlos Ghigliotti, the FLIR analyst who was retained by the House of Representatives, who reviewed the infrared camera footage of the Waco incident under Clinton.

Ghigliotti died suddenly of a heart attack shortly before the Waco trial.

It seems like people who work in the labs that investigate Democrats end up like the Red Shirts on Star Trek. They never make it to the final scene.

-PJ

129 posted on 04/28/2012 6:33:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: butterdezillion
By “chronic condition” I meant a known health problem that he was being treated for.

By "chronic condition" I mean it in the medical sense. Due to compensation many people don't know they have heart failure and many times the first symptom is sudden death. Here's an example at this link.

130 posted on 04/28/2012 6:59:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: butterdezillion
I have never worked in the coroners office. I, like all physicians spent time in the pathology lab. The filling out of the death certificate if not contested or involved in a legal process is fairly straight forward. If it is a fact he has not seen a physician for over 1 year mitigates against an unstable coronary process or it may indicate that Mr. Breitbart was not a compliant patient. I cannot say or speculate. With no cardiac drugs in his system, again this might indicate noncompliance or lack of disease. I have not heard his serum K+ level. Arsenic poisoning is usually a slow incidious process from ingesting small quantities of arsenic and is unlikely, it seems to me. I believe I read where the coroner said the cause of death was "heart failure". This term, as I have stated earlier is very nonspecific.

I am afraid I am of no help to you, and your looking into this matter. Some things do not add up.

I might also add that the coroner might be sensitive to much of the commentary on various blogs about concerns of someone sympathetic to obama, and might hold off the release. This is just speculation on my part. Or the family might have made a request to hold off as long as possible.

131 posted on 04/28/2012 7:11:29 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: Moonman62

Right. It can happen. But that wouldn’t explain why his close friends would lie about him having a heart attack within the past year. The discrepancies between the initial claims and the later claims is what caught my attention. And now it conflicts with what’s in the toxicology results also.


132 posted on 04/28/2012 9:02:20 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Yes, hits were designed to intimidate people who understood that they were hits. In the specific case I mentioned, attorneys would not fail to notice that everyone who sued the corporation died a violent accidental death at a critical moment.

The MSM and Sheeple are totally numb. However, the message is not lost on those who are tuned in.


133 posted on 04/28/2012 9:08:58 PM PDT by darth
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To: Texas Songwriter

Arsenic is suspected in the death of the coroner’s tech. The one who does photography. There are some threads about it. I’ll fetch a link after I post this.

Would you think that the coroner’s office would have a person who specialized in photographing the bodies - somebody who knew what the coroner would be looking for, what kind of detail was necessary, how to get the required shots/angles, how to label the views, etc? Sort of like a sonographer knows how to take pictures in the womb (for instance)?

The guy who died of what they believe is arsenic poisoning was a photographer for the coroner’s office. Would I be out of line in thinking that he may have photographed Breitbart’s body? He died the night of the day the toxicology results were announced.

If Breitbart hadn’t seen a doctor for over a year, that would necessarily mean that he hadn’t been hospitalized for 2 weeks after a massive heart attack within the last year, as claimed by his “close friends”. Right?

I’ll fetch that link.


134 posted on 04/28/2012 9:11:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Texas Songwriter

Here’s a link to a thread about the coroner’s technician who is thought to have died from arsenic poisoning:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2877618/posts


135 posted on 04/28/2012 9:12:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Political Junkie Too

Funny how that happens, considering that the President has control over the CIA which has a handy-dandy heart attack gun...


136 posted on 04/28/2012 9:14:11 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: darth

And would you say that the timing of the deaths was a primary way to make a supposedly “natural death” known as an assassination?

Would you say that the people who were threatened by a suspiciously-timed “natural death” went out of their way to agree that the death was “natural”, or would they typically speak out to show that the death was an assassination?


137 posted on 04/28/2012 9:17:03 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

placemark.


138 posted on 04/28/2012 10:03:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Political Junkie Too

This also explains why Bill and Hillary were scared out of bringing up Obama’s eligibility as they had intended, when Bill Gwatney and Stephanie Tubbs were killed at critical points right before the DNC Convention in 2008 - even though they themselves have Secret Service protection. Bill, having been President (and having used them) was very aware that there are assassination techniques that bodyguards can’t necessarily protect you from. Having had a heart attack once already, Bill would be a prime candidate to use the heart attack gun on, and somebody could easily get within range to use it even with a bodyguard.


139 posted on 04/28/2012 10:07:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

The family fled to another state (Texas) after Ray was murdered! At the time, I was young and naive enough to think it odd. After the government guy (GS14) told me about the other killings by that corporation, I understood.

Most people have a hard time wrapping their minds around this fact: In America there are various actors including organized crime, ruthless wealthy people with plenty of resources, major corporations, unions, and political groups who MURDER those who trouble them.

Of course, such murdering groups are a minority, but they definitely exist in the real world and not just in Hollywood scripts.

I had an acquaintance who committed armed robbery as a young man and got off with a slap on the wrist after hiring the right lawyers and paying off the right people. He also used a thug for collections. The deadbeats owed him money for sure and he was going to get it!

I lived in a small city where a cop confided in me that by paying off the pols anybody could get away with any crime.

Recently, I became aware of a case where a hazardous waste disposal company run by a foreign mobster dumped an incredible amount of pollutants in a bayou here. The EPA finally shut him down after years of evidence. However, he walks the streets a free man today. Who did he pay off? He would have to pay off the state regulators as well as EPA officials.

America is becoming more Third World in a lot of ways. If we don’t clean up the corruption it will get worse.


140 posted on 04/29/2012 6:37:51 AM PDT by darth
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To: butterdezillion
Kennedy is shot. Oswald is fingered and then shot. Ruby is shot.

Obama is fingered by Breitbart. Breitbart has a massive heart attack. The coroner (photographer) dies suddenly.

There was a detective in Little Rock Ark. who alledgedly had the goods on the death of 2 boys found dead near Mena, ARk. related back to Clinton. The detective's home is broken into and those records come up missisng. The detective is killed on the loop in Little Rock. The detectives' son and wife were threatened by some unnamed party. The political problem goes away.

I guess the point, born or a little paranoia, is that there is a killing, then the party with knowledge of the event which prompted the killing goes away.

Nawh. I am just allowing my imagination get away from me.

141 posted on 05/01/2012 3:55:06 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Definitely a pattern.

And like a situation where there is REAL child abuse, what you expect from somebody who has truly been threatened... is denials. Even if they have to lie straight-out. And that’s exactly what we saw from the friends of Breitbart.

They told us that Breitbart had been hospitalized for 2 weeks following a massive heart attack within the last year. But the coroner’s office had access to his medical records and said he hadn’t seen a doctor in over a year. The toxicology test said he had no prescription drugs in his body. In spite of the evidence they knew would eventually come out showing otherwise, Breitbart’s friends desperately tried to get the public to drop the issue of why Breitbart died.

Exactly what we would expect if the threat was real. If they really believed it was a natural heart attack they would not need to make up stories.

And of course, the fact that since Breitbart’s death they have refused to address Obama’s forged birth certificate and draft registration - and have recently said they won’t air any damaging video either...is also what we would expect if the threat was real.

Just like the silence and/or ridicule of the media instead of earnest coverage of Sheriff Joe’s findings is what we’d expect if the threats to the media were real. And people quitting their jobs (which they have) or leaving the country (which they have) or starting their own company to get out of the control of the one that had threatened them (which they have)...


142 posted on 05/01/2012 6:30:01 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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