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Polygamy, Too (If marriage can evolve in terms of gender, why not in terms of number?)
National Review ^ | 04/20/2012 | By David J. Rusin

Posted on 04/21/2012 6:41:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Presidential candidate Rick Santorum got jeered for comparing the legalization of same-sex marriage to that of polygamy, but, whether or not the comparison is rationally sound, thoughts of the former’s facilitating the latter bring a smile to many Islamists. If the definition of marriage can evolve in terms of gender, some Muslims ask, why not in terms of number?

Islam sanctions polygamy — more specifically, polygyny — allowing Muslim men to keep up to four wives at once. Though marrying a second woman while remaining married to the first is prohibited across the Western world, including all 50 U.S. states, a Muslim can circumvent the law by wedding one woman in a government-recognized marriage and joining with others in unlicensed religious unions devoid of legal standing.

As Muslims have grown more numerous in the West, so too have Muslim polygamists. France, home to the largest Islamic population in Western Europe, was estimated in 2006 to host 16,000 to 20,000 polygamous families — almost all Muslim — containing 180,000 total people, including children. In the United States, such Muslims may have already reached numerical parity with their fundamentalist-Mormon counterparts; as many as 100,000 Muslims reside in multi-wife families, and the phenomenon has gained particular traction among black Muslims.

The increasingly prominent profile of Islamic polygamy in the West has inspired a range of accommodations. Several governments now recognize plural marriages contracted lawfully in immigrants’ countries of origin. In the United Kingdom, these polygamous men are eligible to receive extra welfare benefits — an arrangement that some government ministers hope to kill — and a Scottish court once permitted a Muslim who had been cited for speeding to retain his driver’s license because he had to commute between his wives.

The ultimate accommodation would involve placing polygamous and monogamous marriages on the same legal footing, but Islamists have been relatively quiet on this front, a silence that some attribute to satisfaction with the status quo or a desire to avoid drawing negative publicity. There have, of course, been exceptions. The Muslim Parliament of Great Britain made waves in 2000 about challenging the U.K.’s ban on polygamy, but little came of it. In addition, two of Australia’s most influential Islamic figures called for recognition of polygamous unions several years ago.

With the legal definition of marriage expanding in various U.S. states, as it has in other nations, should we anticipate rising demands that we recognize polygamous marriages? Debra Majeed, an academic apologist for Islamic polygamy, has tried to downplay such concerns, claiming that “opponents of same-sex unions, rather than proponents of polygyny as practiced by Muslims, are the usual sources of arguments that a door open to one would encourage a more visible practice of the other.” Yet some American Muslims apparently did not get the memo.

Because off-the-cuff remarks can be the most revealing, consider a tweet by Moein Khawaja, executive director of the Philadelphia branch of the radical Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). After New York legalized same-sex marriage last June, Khawaja expressed what many Islamists must have been thinking: “Easy to support gay marriage today bc it’s mainstream. Lets see same people go to bat for polygamy, its the same argument. *crickets*”

The “same argument” theme is fleshed out in an October 2011 piece titled “Polygamy: Tis the Season?” in the Muslim Link, a newspaper serving the Washington and Baltimore areas. “There are murmurs among the polygamist community as the country moves toward the legalization of gay marriage,” it explains. “As citizens of the United States, they argue, they should have the right to legally marry whoever they please, or however many they please.” The story quotes several Muslim advocates of polygamy. “As far as legalization, I think they should,” says Hassan Amin, a Baltimore imam who performs polygamous religious unions. “We should strive to have it legalized because Allah has already legalized it.”

Again and again the article connects the normalization of same-sex marriage and Islamic polygamy. “As states move toward legalizing gay marriage, the criminalization of polygamy is a seemingly striking inconsistency in constitutional law,” it asserts. “Be it gay marriage or polygamous marriage, the rights of the people should not be based on their popularity but rather on the constitutional laws that are meant to protect them.”

According to a survey carried out by the Link, polygamy suffers from no lack of popularity among American Muslims. Thirty-nine percent reported their intention to enter polygamous marriages if it becomes legal to do so, and “nearly 70 percent said they believe that the U.S. should legalize polygamy now that it is beginning to legalize gay marriage.” Unfortunately, no details about the methodology or sample size are provided, and in general quality data on Western Muslims’ views of polygamy are scarce and often contradictory. Results from a recent poll of SingleMuslim.com users, many of whom live in the West, show significant support for the religious institution of polygamy, while findings from a more professional-looking survey of French Muslims indicate little desire for legalization.

Nevertheless, the number of polygamous Muslims and the opportunity presented by the redefining of marriage make it very likely that direct appeals for official recognition will ramp up over the next decade, as more Muslims join vocal non-Muslims already laying out the case that polygamists deserve no fewer rights than gays. In the meantime, watch for Islamists and their allies to prepare for ideological battle.

For starters, one hears a lot about the alleged social necessity of recognizing Islamic polygamy. The hardships encountered by second, third, and fourth wives who lack legal protections are regularly highlighted, while polygamy is promoted as a solution to the loss of marriageable black men in America to drugs, violence, and prison. Because polygamists who are not legally married are known to abuse welfare systems — for instance, Muslim women in polygamous marriages often claim benefits as single mothers — it would not be shocking to see legalization pushed even as a means of curbing fraud.

These practical arguments are supplemented with heavy-handed attempts to extol the supposed virtues of Islamic polygamy, as in a Georgia middle-school assignment featuring a sharia-lauding Muslim who tells students that “if our marriage has problems, my husband can take another wife rather than divorce me, and I would still be cared for.” Leftist academics such as Miriam Cooke, who has peddled the fiction that polygamy frees married Muslim women to pursue lovers, will have a role to play as well.

The good news for opponents of polygamy is that eventual legalization remains far from certain in the U.S. or elsewhere. State representatives will not be rushing to introduce pro-polygamy bills when, according to a Gallup survey from last year, almost nine in ten Americans still see the practice as morally wrong. Opinions can change, of course, as they have regarding same-sex marriage. Unfortunately for polygamy’s backers, however, the equality arguments employed to great effect by gay-marriage advocates may ring hollow, in that recognizing polygamy — which almost always takes the form of polygyny — would essentially endorse inequality between the genders.

Convincing American judges to overturn restrictions will be an uphill battle as well — and not just because of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1879 rejection of the “religious duty” defense of marrying multiple partners in Reynolds v. United States. More recently, state supreme courts have explicitly held the line against polygamy in their rulings to extend marriage rights to same-sex pairs. See Goodridge v. Department of Public Health (Massachusetts, 2003) and In re Marriage Cases (California, 2008); the latter decision describes both polygamous and incestuous unions as “inimical to the mutually supportive and healthy family relationships promoted by the constitutional right to marry.”

Judicial criticism of polygamy is not unique to the U.S. In a case concerning self-proclaimed Mormon fundamentalists, the supreme court of British Columbia upheld Canada’s ban on plural marriage last November after the chief justice, in the words of the New York Times, “found that women in polygamous relationships faced higher rates of domestic, physical and sexual abuse, died younger and were more prone to mental illnesses. Children from those marriages, he said, were more likely to be abused and neglected, less likely to perform well at school and often suffered from emotional and behavioral problems.”

Focusing on polygamy in the Islamic world does not yield a happier image. Based on her experiences in Afghanistan, feminist university professor Phyllis Chesler has called the practice “humiliating, cruel, [and] unfair to the wives,” and noted that it “sets up fearful rivalries among the half-brothers of different mothers who have lifelong quarrels over their inheritances.” Likewise, Egyptian-born human-rights activist Nonie Darwish has elucidated polygamy’s “devastating impact on the healthy function and the structure of loyalties” within Muslim families.

Recent studies have bolstered these accounts. According to new research, Israeli Arab women in polygamous marriages are worse off than those in monogamous ones. A separate investigation uncovered similar negative effects on Malaysian Muslims. In addition, an academic paper released this year concludes that polygamous societies in general lag behind their monogamous counterparts and explores the reasons for this, including the increased tension and criminal activity that result from creating a surplus of single, low-status men.

There are many other arguments against polygamy that supporters of legalization will have to defeat, such as that expanding marriage to three or more people would require massive alterations of Western family law. However, neither bureaucratic obstacles nor public exposure of the social ills accompanying polygamy will deter polygamous Muslims from seeking what they desire.

Recognition of polygamous marriages would be a major win for stealth jihadists — and the time is nearly optimal for them to make their move. How ironic that laws benefiting gay couples may aid Islamists — followers of an ideology that despises homosexuals — in their campaign to establish sharia in the Western world.

— David J. Rusin is a research fellow at Islamist Watch, a project of the Middle East Forum. This article initially appeared in the April 16, 2012, issue of National Review.


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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; marriage; polygamy; polygyny
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To: Joe 6-pack

I realized my post at 37 could be interpreted as a soft stance on the issues on this thread. That is not the case. Just my thoughts on main priorities so we would not reach the moral nadir. Water under the bridge I fear.


41 posted on 04/21/2012 8:48:35 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“Legislatively, I think a lot can be done, not by passing new “morality” laws, but by repealing a lot of immoral ones.”

Emphatic agreement! I would love to see a push for restoration in the form of stripping out such legislation.


42 posted on 04/21/2012 8:51:09 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Psalm 144
"I realized my post at 37 could be interpreted as a soft stance on the issues on this thread."

I didn't interpret it that way...and you do have very good points. There are very proper limits on what an executive or legislature can (try to) do in terms of personal morality.

43 posted on 04/21/2012 8:56:15 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I remember years ago, when the first mumblings of homosexuality being considered normal behaviour started. Everyone my age thought there was no way on this earth that anyone would actually buy into it. How wrong I was. The acceptance of this unnatural and immoral behaviour has been a real eye-opener. I now believe that anything is possible.

Political correctness is the adult version of peer pressure.


44 posted on 04/21/2012 9:00:49 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

“I am waiting for the day that some men start claiming (using the same argument as the homosexuals) that their attraction to children is their “sexual orientation”, that they are born that way.”

That has already started, and is gathering steam.


45 posted on 04/21/2012 9:04:03 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: SeekAndFind
But I luuuuuv her!


46 posted on 04/21/2012 9:21:10 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

Polygyny was very much allowed in the OT. I know that in the Christian era it was considered a terrible sin, but I have to say that never made much sense to me from a Biblical perspective. Abraham had more than one wife, as did King David. Abraham is “our father in faith” and David is the Prophet of the Messiah. How did we get from David “gatting heat” by looking at the pulchritudinous Abishag from polygyny being a moral outrage> Just askin’?


47 posted on 04/21/2012 9:27:05 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Fee

Indeed. I fail to understand why anyone who wants to eliminate the gender requirements for marriage would have any trouble with eliminating the numerical requirements. For all its faults and shortcomings, at least polygyny results in a child’s mother being married to his father.


48 posted on 04/21/2012 9:30:16 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: MuttTheHoople
Why would anyone want more than one wife?

Why?

One trim, athletic built blonde.
One medium figured brunette.
One lush, full figured red head.

I could live with that.

49 posted on 04/21/2012 9:34:25 AM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Polygamy is more natural than Gay marriage—at least its found in the Bible and not listed as an Abomination.
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Polygamy is

Found in the Bible - yes check

listed as an Abomination - yes check

right along with homosexuality..

gay marriage is

Found in the Bible - No

listed as an Abomination - yes check

Both polygamy and homosexuality are regarded by God to be equally forbidden and an abomination..

While polygamy/adultery (same sin by another name) is listed in the Ten Commandments, homosexuality or gay marriage is not..

There is never an excuse for adultery...

God has never sanctioned adultery or if you like “polygamy” and there are no cases of God inspired cheatin in the Bible...

Abraham wasnt told by God to cheat on Sarah

and Jacob wasnt told by God to cheat on Leah...

The closing of Rachels womb by God was not because He was pleased with Jacob..

BTW Joey Smith wsnt told by God to cheat on Emma..

His corrupt lusting flesh told him that..


50 posted on 04/21/2012 10:03:58 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: ReformationFan

at least polygyny results in a child’s mother being married to his father.
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Not in this country..

Bigamy is illegal...


51 posted on 04/21/2012 10:05:39 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: bgill

Actually, I misspoke. In the OT, polygyny was not only permitted, it was even required in the case of leverite marriage, was it now? I try to be a biblical kind of guy, so why is polygyny condemned in Christianity? I think it’s probably more of a cultural accretion from the Roman world.


52 posted on 04/21/2012 10:05:39 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Scripture please...

From the Christian Bible..


53 posted on 04/21/2012 10:07:00 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Where is polygamy listed as an abomination? I’m sure you’re right, I’m just asking for a Bible verse.


54 posted on 04/21/2012 10:08:42 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: SeekAndFind

As my friend (who’s divorced) would say... “Why have polygamy?? One wife is too many”. I do disagree on that...one wife is just right!!!


55 posted on 04/21/2012 10:37:15 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

But it is as stated in the first GOP platform (1856)
“..”It is the duty of Congress to prohibit in the territories those twin relics of barbarism, polygamy and slavery.”...”!


56 posted on 04/21/2012 11:04:16 AM PDT by Reily
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To: sjmjax

If you can afford it. Also, don’t forget this old adage- no matter how hot some woman is, somewhere somehow some guy is tired of her $hit.


57 posted on 04/21/2012 11:08:27 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Here's a link to a whole bunch of versus that are about polygamy. Great page. There's a lot more there than I'd ever imagined.

http://www.openbible.info/topics/polygamy

Moses was a polygamist, so was David, the Patriachs, etc. Check it out. Leverite marriage, where it's actually required, is listed there in Dueteronomy. Very interesting. I have to say that I see nowhere in that list where polygamy is an "abomination", unless it involves the marriage of a mother and daughter to the same man under passages in Leviticus. The clear implication is that it's just fine otherwise. Please tell me where the Bible says that polygamy is an "abomination."

A legitimate argument that polygamy should at least be tolerated based on biblical standards emerges from all that, no? I used to be a Catholic, non-deomonimational now. I recall that Augustine believed that polygamy was permissible in biblical terms, but that Christians shouldn't practice it as there was no need for it in his late-Roman-period world and its practice violated Roman customary law. So, the rejection of polygamy seems to me to be one of those cases where RCC doctrine strayed from the teachings of the Bible to accommodate the secular world.

Where do I err?

58 posted on 04/21/2012 11:46:02 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: SeekAndFind

One Islamic man + 4 wives = 4+ little bomb carriers per year for 20+ years.

Americans better start having kids again. God Bless the Duggars and those like them.


59 posted on 04/21/2012 12:28:34 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: bgill
http://boards.brownpride.com/showthread.php/sudan-man-forced-36021.html?s=698c29e922ae94cdd1043b581baa6be0&
60 posted on 04/21/2012 2:06:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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