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Now WH (staff) is under suspicion -- Questions over whether agents slept with underage girls
ukmail ^ | 4.20.12

Posted on 04/21/2012 7:40:31 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

The prostitution scandal which has devastated the Secret Service could be set to spread to the White House. A senior Republican has urged the investigation into what happened in Colombia ahead of Barack Obama's trip there to extend to presidential staff who were preparing for his visit. Senator Charles Grassley's comments came on the day that three more Secret Service agents who had been sent home over the incident resigned from the agency. Also on Friday, Mr Obama received a personal briefing on the state of the investigation from Mark Sullivan, director of the Secret Service. -------- Mr Sullivan visited the White House late on Friday to brief Mr Obama in the Oval Office. The U.S. agents and military personnel involved could face criminal charges if is proven that they had sex with girls under the age of 18. When Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House Government Oversight and Reform Committee, was asked if any of the men had done so, he said neither he nor Mr Sullivan could be certain. ‘In the case of the 11 agents, the primary determination is you can’t determine to charge or not charge somebody until you know whether a crime is committed,’ he said, according to The Daily Beast.

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1 posted on 04/21/2012 7:40:35 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
This entire CF strikes me as entirely too Cønvenient
2 posted on 04/21/2012 7:43:14 AM PDT by tomkat (...shall NOT be abridged)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Drip, Drip, Drip


3 posted on 04/21/2012 7:43:27 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: InvisibleChurch

You wonder who he was setting the liasons up for? somebody special in the White House.


4 posted on 04/21/2012 7:44:01 AM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: tomkat

are you suggesting this is a good thing for the WH or that they are promoting this?


5 posted on 04/21/2012 7:44:59 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: InvisibleChurch
The latter.
Just another Trayvon to deflect attention from the utter destruction of our economy/constitution/future.
6 posted on 04/21/2012 7:47:02 AM PDT by tomkat (...shall NOT be abridged)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Untrue statement?:

‘In the case of the 11 agents, the primary determination is you can’t determine to charge or not charge somebody until you know whether a crime is committed,’

Anyone can be investigated by the D.A. or indicted upon reasonable cause/preliminary findings of evidence/suspicion of a crime being committed; can also charge upon suspicion of conspiracy to commit a crime.


7 posted on 04/21/2012 7:48:15 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Discrete Service????? Who knew?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Creating a "diversion" comes to mind.....Don't read (about Obama's forged BC....) or all the dozens of other illegal, unconstitutional things this man had done.....
8 posted on 04/21/2012 7:50:20 AM PDT by yoe
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To: InvisibleChurch

So . . . which women staffers were they who had sex with these underage girls?


9 posted on 04/21/2012 7:51:41 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: tomkat
I don't think so. Most people have only a rudimentary understanding of the economy and Constitution, but everybody understands the term "underage girls"
10 posted on 04/21/2012 7:54:11 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: tomkat
Are you saying the agents didn't hire hookers?
11 posted on 04/21/2012 7:54:46 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

How could a government employee do this? It’s not like we’ve had a Democrat President doing the nasty with interns in the White House.


12 posted on 04/21/2012 7:55:54 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dagogo redux

I always thought that when the mask is ripped away—Obama will have the most corrupt administration in US History. This guy will make US Grants term in office look clean. I still say they will come a time when Obama will be the most hated man in America.


13 posted on 04/21/2012 7:56:26 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: InvisibleChurch

All this is about....is that come the end of October...it is SUPPOSED to be Mitt Romney’s turn....


14 posted on 04/21/2012 7:57:48 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“I still say they will come a time when Obama will be the most hated man in America.”

But not the AA’s, they will all be crying racism, but they will be crying about their “beloved” Barak!


15 posted on 04/21/2012 8:03:08 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Ken H
Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
But the entire scenario is unarguably providing some great covering fire for the usurper's daily treasons.

Actually, what I'll be inclined to believe happened will depend on what we learn re the particular SS guys involved.
Are they still of the same group of squared away professionals of yore we've always heard about ?
Or are they of the same thuggish ilk of most of the maggØt's other hires since '08 ?

16 posted on 04/21/2012 8:05:43 AM PDT by tomkat (...shall NOT be abridged)
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To: blueunicorn6

If Obama came from a broken family, where reports he was sodomized by family acquaintances as a young minor, and being raised in an Islamic culture which didn’t challenge adult sex with minors, what are the psychological profiles for that type of personality to become a child molester in their adult years?

If such a person gained significant authority, then committed such felonious acts, how would his handlers, who also seek power, handle the situation with those tasked to watch that person’s every move?

It is almost as if there is a trend, amongst Democratic leaders facing similar scenarios. It’s almost as if both situations have a common person highly placed on the sidelines who has motive to advance to the same position of authority.


17 posted on 04/21/2012 8:06:08 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

As the leftist media puppets always intone:

The Eighth Law of Liberalism:

The “seriousness of the charge” is more important than the truthfulness of the charge.


18 posted on 04/21/2012 8:06:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Mr Obama received a personal briefing on the state of the investigation, in video format, from Mark Sullivan, director of the Secret Service.
19 posted on 04/21/2012 8:09:02 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

gotta believe Axelrod, a known sexual deviant, is involved in this somehow...


20 posted on 04/21/2012 8:12:09 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I’ve been suspicious of the entire WH Staff for quite a while now.


21 posted on 04/21/2012 8:15:22 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dagogo redux

How long before the first book ?


22 posted on 04/21/2012 8:17:09 AM PDT by molson209
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To: molson209

we’re still waiting for the first book from&about the clinton administration


23 posted on 04/21/2012 8:21:56 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The first thing the comes to mind is the saying: “The fish rots from the head first.”

Just remember that the President and his administration really does set the tone for the rest of the government and its employees.


24 posted on 04/21/2012 8:33:36 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: InvisibleChurch
Who gives a fig if the women were under-age, over-age, or middle-age....you are being diverted from the REAL ISSUE...is this man, Obama, legally allowed to run for president of the USA....(Obama officially ineligible)

(Obama Lawyer Admits Birth Certificate Is A Forgery)

(Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control)

(Obama Birth Certificate Not Authentic: Sheriff Joe)

(Obama Birth Certificate A Forgery?)

Did you read 'their' argument that 'because it is a forgery, it has no place in court"...or words to that affect. Take up this fight for your country!

25 posted on 04/21/2012 8:34:34 AM PDT by yoe
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To: umgud

It gets curioser and curioser.


26 posted on 04/21/2012 8:35:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Glen Beck was intimating this the other day,he had inside sources stating WH staff members were involved in Escortgate.


27 posted on 04/21/2012 8:37:12 AM PDT by Nekman (Liberals have no use for facts, they get in the way of the narrative.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

If you do not think that POTUS Obama is engaged in this disgusting escapade, you are not all there. Now....Obama may not be in on all the details, but.....our executive branch of the government is both without mangement and leadership. Our entire federal government under Obama is totally out of control. Obama is not worthy of taking the garbage out in the evening, let alone govern this once great nation!!! Americans, you can really proud of yourselves in electing this America hating incompetent man, Barack Hussein Obama as our POTUS. Sad!!! Does not speak well of Americans. Some of us knew what he was, but....millions were hoodwinked by his smoke and mirrors act. Hitler and Stalin would be proud!!!


28 posted on 04/21/2012 8:39:56 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: yoe

The story at your link has been debunked. All threads about it here have been pulled. Some have read the court transcripts, and the lawyers only said that the BC didn’t apply in this case, not that it was a forgery.


29 posted on 04/21/2012 8:40:27 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Who keeps the secrets of the President, First Lady and Presidential staff peccadilloes? Secret Service agents.

Would be interesting/dangerous if they threatened to start talking to keep their jobs a la J. Edgar Hoover.


30 posted on 04/21/2012 8:40:47 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

If it is a diversion, it is a bad one. This makes the whole administration look like a bunch of overage college kids gone wild. In fact, all of these diversions are leaving 0bama open to massive amounts of ridicule, and as we all know, ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.


31 posted on 04/21/2012 8:43:06 AM PDT by yawningotter
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To: InvisibleChurch

I think we all need to get a grip for a moment...

There is a world of difference between a bunch of guys partying with hookers— and some unsubstantiated charge that underage girls were involved. I’m already disappointed enough with the Secret Service, an outfit that I’ve respected for a long time for being highly professional, but I’m not ready to jump on the underage angle without some actual evidence. So far the only hooker we know about is 25 years old.

Calling them unprofessional and adulterers is one thing. Calling them pedophiles is quite another and we should all demand that there is some actual evidence before jumping on board.

My .02


32 posted on 04/21/2012 8:50:41 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“I still say they will come a time when Obama will be the most hated man in America.”

That time is now for many.


33 posted on 04/21/2012 8:50:59 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I fully expect these agents to sustain tragic, fatal accidents or commit suicide in the days to come.


34 posted on 04/21/2012 8:53:52 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism is not a party slogan, but a mindset guided by core values and walking the walk.)
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To: yoe
Re Obama Lawyer Admits Birth Certificate Is A Forgery...Wow! Is this true?

Obama defense attorney Alexandra M. Hill argued that President Obama’s birth certificate “was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama’s ineligibility in a court of law.”

The president's own counsel admitted that they intentionally made a poor forgery so it would be invalid as evidence. Unbelievable. This alone should be enough to drive the bastard from office.

35 posted on 04/21/2012 8:59:23 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: InvisibleChurch

So apparently everyone who went to Columbia got their wicks dipped - except for Øbozo who doesn’t have one.


36 posted on 04/21/2012 9:02:53 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
I always thought that when the mask is ripped away—Obama will have the most corrupt administration in US History. This guy will make US Grants term in office look clean. I still say they will come a time when Obama will be the most hated man in America.

Not just in America. Have you read THIS? Obama is Pulling The Mask Away for All The World to See

I highly recommend it. The posted comments are as enlightening as the interview itself.

37 posted on 04/21/2012 9:05:08 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: umgud

Animal House gone wrong...


38 posted on 04/21/2012 9:10:57 AM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Here is a very comprehensive story on Obama’s sexual preferences at http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/08/why-obama-is-subjected-to-blackmails/#


39 posted on 04/21/2012 9:11:46 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: InvisibleChurch
The U.S. agents and military personnel involved could face criminal charges if is proven that they had sex with girls under the age of 18.
Does Colombia allow girls under 18 (@14 is the age of consent) to be prostitutes?
If the girls were under 18 and were allowed/licensed to be prostitutes by Colombia then exactly what laws were broken?

@100 Countries and Their Prostitution Policies

40 posted on 04/21/2012 9:19:04 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Always watch the hand behind the magician’s back.


41 posted on 04/21/2012 9:24:42 AM PDT by bgill
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To: InvisibleChurch

Here’s the problem as I see it; we are being asked to believe that a dozen USSS employees, all from the same section, are all dirty. One or two, I can see, but a dozen or more?


42 posted on 04/21/2012 9:24:47 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
are you suggesting this is a good thing for the WH or that they are promoting this?

What better excuse to replace guards sworn to protect the Constitution with ones swearing personal fealty?

43 posted on 04/21/2012 9:33:51 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1187 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: cardinal4

Every single SS employee who didn’t resign when the Kenyen took office is dirty.


44 posted on 04/21/2012 9:35:03 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: InvisibleChurch; Morgana

Our government thinks the age of consent is about 11, judging by school curiculums and the free condoms by mail program.

disgusting


45 posted on 04/21/2012 9:52:53 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Wait until the Democratic convention and look at the people in attendance and you will see why someone like Obama can be their nominee


46 posted on 04/21/2012 9:53:29 AM PDT by depenzz (There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt. John Adam)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Agree with it or not, it’s the law...Age of Conscent in Mexico is 14.

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm


47 posted on 04/21/2012 9:53:40 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: WellyP

http://www.ageofconsent.com/colombia.htm 14 is the law. Too young but that’s the law!


48 posted on 04/21/2012 9:55:14 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The “Stimulus” alone may have been the largest case if theft in world history


49 posted on 04/21/2012 9:55:24 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: InvisibleChurch

with this white house, I’d investigate underage boys also...


50 posted on 04/21/2012 9:55:29 AM PDT by isom35
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