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Hatch didn't make it he has to run in Primary!!!!
Fox News | 4/21/2012 | taildragger

Posted on 04/21/2012 12:33:46 PM PDT by taildragger

Folks, just heard, Hatch in a run off ! Liljenquist and Tea Partiers did it !!!


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To: GingerC

Yes, but all of that doesn’t make Hatch a RINO, but merely a Republican. And shows you just how far statist the GOP has gone.


101 posted on 04/21/2012 2:26:37 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: GingerC

Hatch also was involved with the confirmation of Klintons AG I can’t remember her name but she looked like a Prison
Guard at Alcatraz.


102 posted on 04/21/2012 2:27:59 PM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: mirkwood
Mark Levin is gonna be upset.

Michael Savage refers to him as Grocho Marx's grandmother getting a hysterectomy with no anesthesia.

I heard him one time he was screaming like someone on "Cops". Never listened to him again.

Oh and Orrin Hatch ushered in the worst Supreme Court Justice in American History the yenta of yentas Ruth Bedar Ginsburg!

103 posted on 04/21/2012 2:30:29 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go Blackhawks!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: greyfoxx39
Thanks for the introduction of the mormon religion to this thread.

Who mentioned CHRISTIANITY???




Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

104 posted on 04/21/2012 2:32:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: taildragger

105 posted on 04/21/2012 2:32:16 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: null and void
I seriously doubt ....

This is a fact that MANY Mormons are coming to realize...

106 posted on 04/21/2012 2:33:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Rappini

Janet Reno
As Larry the Cable Guy says...”Janet Reno in a negligee would make Ray Charles flinch”——or words to that effect.


107 posted on 04/21/2012 2:33:37 PM PDT by MagUSNRET (I have always been proud of my country, it is my government that I am ashamed of!)
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To: newzjunkey
That's what they said about Arlen Specter, too.

Hatch is also saying that dumping him would be a loss for Utah because he is the senior member of the Finance Committee. We can't be swayed by the false argument of loss of seniority. Replace the seniors with new blood and all the new Senators will advance.

After Hatch, it's McConnell's turn to go.

-PJ

108 posted on 04/21/2012 2:33:44 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: null and void
... an anti-mormon bias... to a MORMON; is ANYTHING that is NOT positive and affirmative about his/her chosen religion.
109 posted on 04/21/2012 2:35:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: null and void
 

MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 
                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
 
 
Revision 46.5
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.

110 posted on 04/21/2012 2:35:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: GingerC

This is the kind of information I was looking for. Thanks, GingerC.


111 posted on 04/21/2012 2:35:48 PM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: GingerC

Good list.

I believe Hatch also voted for NDAA, which is another biggie.


112 posted on 04/21/2012 2:36:52 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: DestroyLiberalism

I wonder from how far back into the past, that these conclusions are drawn.


113 posted on 04/21/2012 2:37:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; taildragger
” Do ya think our Founding Fathers wanted them their that long?

Did the FF even think it POSSIBLE to LIVE that long??

114 posted on 04/21/2012 2:39:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I suppose so. Not being a Mormon myself I wouldn’t know the thought process.

OTOH, I see what looks to me an awful lot like attacks on Mormons here.


115 posted on 04/21/2012 2:40:42 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1187 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Elsie
(Yeah, it'll take TWO for the REPEAT charge to stick.)

And THEN they'd have to PROVE they are DOPEY, and not just SAY SO!

116 posted on 04/21/2012 2:41:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
" The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success
unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly -
- it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."



Howdy, Ma'am!

We're from The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints...

117 posted on 04/21/2012 2:43:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: South40
I respect your views on Romney and like I told everyone my goal now is to make sure Governor Walker remains Governor of Wisconsin.

But people trashed Senator Mark Kirk during the election in 2010 saying he would immediately change to a Democrat. So far he has been with all of the GOP on everything!!!

No one bought my explanation that Kirk represented the 10th Congressional District which is a major rat county in Illinois. He won every election closely. But won the Senate big. Sadly he had a stroke and hasn't been able to return to DC. But I met the man and can tell you he is awesome. I met Obama and saw pure evil, and that was in 2005!

As far as this guy vs. Orrin Hatch. Orrin Hatch is a RINO of epic proportions. He ushered in Ruth Bader Ginsburg the lunatic who worked for the ACLU which should have immediately disqualified her.

I've never been a fan of career politicians like Hatch, and I pray my friends in Indiana throw out that bum Lugar.

If possible look back at the Mark Kirk threads in 2010 where people wanted Obama's basketball buddy who also was responsible for the collapse of a bank but didn't get charged since he's Obama's basketball buddy, they charged Bears Superbowl QB Jim McMahon instead...

The bastard's name is Alexi Gianullious after Kirk creamed him he's disappeared which is great. This guy not only destroyed his family's bank he was Treasury Secretary for IL and bankrupted that ripping off programs for schools.

As far as Romney goes, I still will pray for a miracle and hope Newt can get his swagger back like when he won SC after telling that loser from CNN off.

As far as Romney vs. Obama, I am voting against Obama. I will eventually post the whole story on my profile, but I met Obama at a 2005 GWB Private Event spoke with Zero for 10 minutes got his auto, called my mother and told her I met the next POTUS and I saw the eyes of evil... True Story!

Although Romney makes Scott Brown look like a radical right winger!!!

118 posted on 04/21/2012 2:43:55 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go Blackhawks!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: null and void
OTOH, I see what looks to me an awful lot like attacks on Mormons here.

When the USA was in a fighting war with COMMUNISM; a lot of COMMUNISTs got shot.

119 posted on 04/21/2012 2:45:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: taildragger; All
Kick that Kennedy-lovin' POS OUT of the Senate!

Orrin Hatch, so in love with the dead Fat Teddy
that he actually wrote a 'tribute' song to him
'Headed Home', Hatch is EVERYTHING that
is wrong with the Republican Party today!
120 posted on 04/21/2012 2:46:14 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: null and void
OTOH, I see what looks to me an awful lot like attacks on Mormons here.

Look CAREFULLY.

Do I attack the PERSON; or the THEOLOGY?

121 posted on 04/21/2012 2:47:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
I assume you are not advocating shooting Mormons.
122 posted on 04/21/2012 2:48:53 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1187 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Nickname

Yes he did indeed for NDAA


123 posted on 04/21/2012 2:51:18 PM PDT by GingerC
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To: deport
Dan Liljenquist a former state senator will be his opponent.

The decision will be made with the influence on voters from headquarters in SLC. Has Orrin maxed out on his usefulness?

124 posted on 04/21/2012 2:51:22 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: Elsie

Methinks you doth protest a wee bit too much.


125 posted on 04/21/2012 2:51:22 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1187 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: taildragger

Great, now let’s get that assbag out! I hope it really energizes people to kick his sorry ass out.

Establishment Repubs, take note. Effing country club repubs, your days are numbered.


126 posted on 04/21/2012 2:55:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Longbow1969

You can still be conservative and be in the wrong religion. No law against that. We’ll make more of a point about you being in the wrong religion if you’re NOT a conservative. Especially if you tell us you are but really aren’t.


127 posted on 04/21/2012 2:57:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Magic Fingers

Not necessarily BECAUSE he’s a Mormon. That’s incidental.


128 posted on 04/21/2012 2:59:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Elsie

By George, I think you’re on to something.


129 posted on 04/21/2012 2:59:34 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: newzjunkey

“Mark Levin endorsed Hatch for reelection last year on the basis of all the work he’s done ushering through good judges.”

I was listening to Mark Levin the day that he did that. I thought to myself I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one, Levin. Mark Levin rarely makes a bad call, but he did on this one.


130 posted on 04/21/2012 3:01:35 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: JerseyDvl

It’s “his” seat, don’t you know? And, he has said he despises those people, meaning Tea Party people. He needs to go down bigtime. Lugar of IN is another one of the same or worse type.


131 posted on 04/21/2012 3:01:50 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Not necessarily BECAUSE he’s a Mormon. That’s incidental.”

True, it’s not an issue for some; for others it’s part of the package of things they hate him for. I’m pro-Newt but I haven’t worked up to full hatred of Romney yet. And if I do - having worked with and supervised quite a few Mormons - Mormonism won’t be one of the reasons why.


132 posted on 04/21/2012 3:10:57 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: izzatzo

CUE THE “HA HA” SIMPSONS KID PLEASE!


133 posted on 04/21/2012 3:10:57 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: null and void
OTOH, I see what looks to me an awful lot like attacks on Mormons here.

Would you be so unconcerned by attacks on Christians?

Mormon leaders boast of sending out missionaries to attack all Christian faiths as false, and claim that the only path to salvation is through the arcane rituals in mormon temples...the rituals that Orrin and Mitt have taken part in.

We are grateful for the 52,225 full-time missionaries serving in more than 150 countries.16 The sun never sets on righteous missionaries testifying of the Savior mormon church. Think of the spiritual power of 52,000 missionaries, endowed with the Spirit of the Lord Joseph Smith, boldly declaring that there is “no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come … , only in and through the name of Christ. mormon church temple rituals

"My young brethren of the priesthood, I testify of the majesty, but most of all, of the certainty of this magnificent event. The Savior lives. He will return to the earth (the Second Coming) . And whether on this side of the veil or the other, you and I will rejoice in His coming and thank the Lord that He sent us to earth at this time to fulfill our sacred duty of helping prepare the world for His return the mormon theocracy

."other people, who may not yield full obedience to his laws, nor be fully instructed in his covenants, will, nevertheless, have to yield full obedience to his government. For it will be the reign of God upon the earth, and he will enforce his laws, and command that obedience from the nations of the world which is legitimately his right” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: John Taylor [2001], 225).

Mormons see Mitt Romney as a key figure in the following:

Preparing the World for the Second Coming-LDS.org, April 2011

Anyone who believes that Romney isn't fully immersed in this doctrine and the Law of Consecration is a fool: The Law of Consecration is considered by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a "celestial law." That is, people who are living lives dedicated to the service of God, such that at judgment they would be assigned to the Celestial Kingdom, should be able and expected to live the Law of Consecration. The Law of Consecration is that, if necessary or requested, a person would give everything he has for the building up of the Kingdom of God on Earth. He would be willing to wholeheartedly give of his time, talents, and resources. Thus, the person is "consecrating" all his personal resources to the Lord.

I suggest some research into a subject before you come out in defense of it.

134 posted on 04/21/2012 3:11:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: Elsie

” Did the FF even think it POSSIBLE to LIVE that long?? “

No : )


135 posted on 04/21/2012 3:12:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: mkjessup

” Hatch is EVERYTHING that
is wrong with the Republican Party today! “

“go along, to get along”

Got us 16 TRILLION in debt!!


136 posted on 04/21/2012 3:15:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hatch hopefully will say something “smart” now that will sink him in the primary. I imagine Romney will come out to UT for a week to beef up Hatch. People in UT really wouldn’t want to lose their hatch.


137 posted on 04/21/2012 3:20:37 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: deport

I thought a congressman who is formerly related to Michael Dukakis was running against Hatch.


138 posted on 04/21/2012 3:22:18 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Hatch AND CONGRESSMAN NEWT GINGRICH voted to establish the Department of Education, a federal takeover of our education system.”


139 posted on 04/21/2012 3:33:38 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: conservativebuckeye

It says a lot about Hoosiers that their senior senator was once Richard Nixon’s favorite mayor and now Obama’s favorite Repubican. I suspect Hoosiers will retain him with that kind of praise.


140 posted on 04/21/2012 3:36:53 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: taildragger

This is good news. What was it I heard about the Tea Party being dead? While I may not look at Hatch as the biggest threat I believe it is important that in deep red states we have deep red Senators and House Members. Lugar is also in trouble. They tried to spin early vote as being a Lugar advantage but 49% refuse to say they are voting for him. That is pretty bad.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/296667/mourdock-camp-disputes-lugars-advantage-early-voting-brian-bolduc

I’d also like to see Jamie Radtke give Allen a run for his money http://radtkeforsenate.com/ though I’ll support Allen
if her wins. Its about principles first. If we can get people in that vote principle and will not compromise then we have a liberty firewall regardless of what happens whether it is a bad Democrat or bad Republicans who think that just because they are in power that they can spend as they wish and we won’t notice.

We need Sons and Daughters of the Revolution who will not simply go along to get along while the country burns. If we can’t elect strong liberty minded defenders of liberty in red states tell me where we are going to elect them?


141 posted on 04/21/2012 3:37:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Theodore R.

Insanity! Public schools are a scourge!!

Neither are conservatives!!


142 posted on 04/21/2012 3:38:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Maelstorm

George Allen has his limits, as Virginians know. He couldn’t even explain what is a Macaca! And I never knew either.


143 posted on 04/21/2012 3:38:39 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: ngat

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Freepers in general are people who are aware of what is going on, so they assume other Freepers are too, and should not have to waste their time recounting all the info that is common knowledge as to why any conservative would want some other conservative to replace Hatch.
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While I appreciate your eventual explanation as to why you think Hatch should be replaced, I take exception to the snarky and condescending tone of your opening remark, especially when I was very respectful in posing my question.

I consider myself quite highly informed politically and anybody who knows me at all would never accuse me otherwise. That said, I also don’t just blindly follow the pack and pile on somebody just because others label them a “RINO”. Lately on FR, I’ve seen the RINO term get slapped at one point or another on literally everyone from Jim DeMint to Marco Rubio to Tom Coburn to Paul Ryan to Nikki Haley to Bob McDonnell to Rick Santorum to Newt Gingrich to Sean Hannity to Laura Ingraham, etc. etc. etc. It’s a term too frivolously bandied about here and in some cases has been used to smear otherwise good and decent conservatives whenever honest principled disagreements may exist.

I still find it curious that a widely respected conservative organization like The Heritage Foundation gives Orrin Hatch such a high rating for conservative principled legislation and am simply wondering why that’s the case? I also realize he’s 80-years-old, been a U.S. Senator now for 36 years now, and that a good argument can certainly be made for him to call it a career and turn his seat over to a younger, more ambitious and committed Tea Party successor.


144 posted on 04/21/2012 3:54:46 PM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: DestroyLiberalism

In 1998 Hatch , Kay Baily , & Lott decided there would be no witnesses to testify in clinton’s trial for removal from office . Only Phil Graham argued for it to continue . I never voted for Kay again .

Yes , I hold a grudge .


145 posted on 04/21/2012 4:06:37 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: Longbow1969

that would be the Moromnophobes

AKA Christian Taliban


146 posted on 04/21/2012 4:14:25 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Longbow1969
We hate Moronism. Mittens is a Moron Bishop. I don't hate the Osmonds who are Mormon, but Morons like Willard? No right thinking person wants to be one, let alone elect one to the highest office.

Make Newt a part of your daily breakfast. Newt, for Conservatism, for when milqtoast just won't cut it.

147 posted on 04/21/2012 4:26:32 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: conservativebuckeye

I’ve seen two Lugar signs.....They were both in the same yard. Lots of Fire Lugar and Mourdock sign. (Also have seen many Paul signs for month, but none for any other Presidential candidate.


148 posted on 04/21/2012 4:35:08 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: bert

You, my friend, can be replaced.


149 posted on 04/21/2012 4:35:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Utah Binger
This is what he gets for thinking he is living in the past.

Hatch is the perfect example of someone who says one thing back home and does another thing in D.C. I cannot believe there can be anyone who doesn't understand that, especially in this day in age when news travels at the speed of light and communication exists outside the lame-stream media, that what happens in D.C., doesn't stay in D.C.

During his last campaign, wasn't he booed off the stage when he misrepresented his performance? The old saw, don't count your Hatch, before he chickens is not without merit.

150 posted on 04/21/2012 5:09:48 PM PDT by kitchen (America or obama - you can't have both.)
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