Skip to comments.Hatch didn't make it he has to run in Primary!!!!
Posted on 04/21/2012 12:33:46 PM PDT by taildragger
Folks, just heard, Hatch in a run off ! Liljenquist and Tea Partiers did it !!!
The quiet little secret is that the Tea Party cost us control of the Senate in 2010.
If we had not had that buffoon not-a-witch woman in Delaware and Angle in Nevada, we would have won with more mainstream candidates. That is reality.
Don't get me wrong; I love much about the Tea Party. Unfortunately, that forgot three very basic rules of elections:
1: Nothing really matters except the General Election. Winners of that govern us, losers go home.
2: Always nominate the candidate the candidate closest to your beliefs who CAN win the General. We had two much stronger candidates in ‘10 Nevada and Delaware Senate races, but we went with ultra-conservative losers.
3: Untra-conservative losers, are just that; losers.
These ratings have been meaningless for at least thirty years, like so many things in liberal America, rigged. People like Lugar, Hatch, and many others know how to rig the ratings. But do IN and UT people know that?
Yes, but, the American liberal people believe those old guys can still bring them some federal programs.
I don't put Castle in the same category as Hatch, but a GOP Delaware win is like Scott Brown winning in Massachusetts, a freak confluence of events not likely to happen again. What good would a Castle win have been if he votes like the Maine sisters, or the former Lincoln Chafee in Rhode Island? If Utah replaces Hatch in the Senate, I don't think it will be with a Democrat.
I do think that Angle had a shot, but it was an uphill battle against the Reid/SEIU/MSM machine in Nevada.
But I don't think the GOP had a chance to retake the Senate. I was watching those races closely, and posting my probabilistic analysis of the Rasmussen polls each week. Everything would have to have broken their way to win the Senate. I haven't started looking at the 2012 polls yet, but this should be a better year for Republicans.
The GOP needs a strong down-ticket strategy for this to happen. If Romney turns off the conservative base, you can kiss the Senate good-bye, too, if conservatives don't turn out to vote.
but they’ll be the best six years and the most critical six years of all,” he said.
this is Rino Blackmail.
hatch lost his way...cutting deals will get you Fired...
dont let the door hit you in the A$$ Orin.
Awesome! I heard him being interviewed and he was angry that the freshman Reps didn’t understand how business is done in Washington. Very arrogant.
It is presumptuous for a man his age to make such promises. He would be older than the pope is when he took office, and the Holy Father is now beginning to feel the physical effects of great age. Just look at the tables: his changes of living out his term are less than he thinks. And looks are no guarantee. Cary Grant looked fine when he made his last speaking tour, he had been a fine athlete, and suddenly a stroke took him out. As someone near his age, I would vote for the other guy as an act of common sense. Hatch is like a care with 250,000 miles on it.
Any Tea Party person who knows his stuff knows it will take awhile to work up the political ladder. Romney had a huge head start on the nomination. But the old men need to be put away; they are a danger to the country, as Henry Ford was to his company in his old age.
Sounds logical; but the foundation upon which MORMONism stands is that the 'scriptures' (the KJV of the Bible) was not sufficient (refer to Articles of Faith #8).
Are you talking here about any ADDITIONAL 'scripture' that the LDS church has canonized to base your conclusion? (Refer to D&C's, PGP, various utterings of MORMON past leaders)
If so; please refer to them.
History has proven to us that Joseph Smith was 'directed by GOD' to revise, edit and correct the KJV of the bible; giving us the JST.
Yet, the SLC group of MORMONs do NOT consider it to be 'scripture'.
When we get all of THIS straightened out; perhaps the playing field will be a bit more level.
And yet; is deceived by the claims of MORMONism.
and I'm a MormonWife, mother, and Mayor. My name
is Mia Love, and I'm a Mormon.
You want BUFFOON?
Hatch has already been there for 6 terms==36 years.
he doesn’t need a 7th term, putting him up to 42 years.
He is already a Rino. we don’t need more of them.
Hatch voted to confirm Kagan!!!
For that reason alone, I would never vote for him.
My goal is not to make, force or coerce others to believe what I believe. I believe in Christ and the Resurrection. I am cnot certain such belief can come about in any way other than God will that a person believe in it.
Therefore, for my time in this world, I commit to the principles that gave birth to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I believe this commitment is best expressed in upholding and exemplifying conservative values and respecting all personal freedoms as included in the original Bill of Rights. And I believe these principles were founded by persons with a strong faith in Christ.
All other creeds are allowed to be expressed in our United States. I only insist that any creed respect the spirit and intent of our founding ideals and the best way in my view that this respect is displayed is by embracing conservative philosophy.
Yup; this IS a wonderful country; where even I can point out heresies that pop up!
While I appreciate your unsolicited reach, your grasp of the history is incorrect. If Clinton had been impeached and convicted Al Gore would have been President.
I’d never heard another Christian mention Melchizedek until the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came along. I’m glad to see he’s getting the attention he deserves.
If the CP gets that vote total it’ll be simply responsible for re-electing the worst President in our nation’s history. A horror for generations to come. Better to just skip the Presidential Election and focus on voting in the most conservative GOP candidates possible.
We really need help in getting qualified, electable conservatives to run. I’d even consider supporting some Blue Dogs here in Illinois if I knew where to find some.
Agreed. I was hoping to get some on-the-ground insight into Dan Liljenquist, instead the spillway from the RF opened and sluiced this thread to mud.
Inject your prudent, wise, realistic crap elsewhere.................
Is it Dutch? Jewish? Austrian? Just the name sounds unelectable among the uninformed. I'm afraid people in UT don't even know their orrin has opposition.
I honestly don't understand your intent. Would you like to clarify?
I went back to my original post which had to do with replacing Sen. Hatch with a more conservative Mormon. Seems like a wise, prudent, and realistic thing to do out there. Since the Republican nominee is almost certainly going to win Utah, let's get the most conservative candidate possible, and in Utah that's probably going to be a Mormon.
To avoid any possible misunderstandings, I am absolutely opposed to Mitt Romney, not so much because of his religion (which I believe is a cult) but because of his liberalism and flip-flopping. His long history of support for abortion and more recent support for homosexual marriage make him unacceptable. At best he's a flip-flopper. At worst he's a lying liberal. In either case he can't be trusted to appoint Supreme Court justices.
I frankly don't know what I'm going to do this November if Romney is the nominee. My only hope left at this point is that Newt Gingrich shocks everyone with much better than expected showings in today's races as the last conservative left standing, and that his campaign takes off in the remaining states. If that doesn't happen we're going to have two horrible choices in November, and I'm not at all sure I can bring myself to vote for Romney even if the alternative is Obama.
It was sarcasm
I thought I’d better ask, just in case. I was occasionally accused of being a Romney supporter last year for reasons I never did understand. Free Republic woke me up several years ago to just how bad Mitt Romney’s views really are, and I greatly appreciate that.