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Democrats Are Jumping Ship
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 04/20/2012 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 04/21/2012 6:11:04 PM PDT by neverdem

Politics: Perhaps Democrats know something the rest of us don't about Barack Obama's political fortunes. What else explains the increasing numbers who are openly defying the president on two key election issues?

The notoriously thin-skinned Obama could not have been happy with the news last week that, as the Hill newspaper put it, "an increasing number of Democrats are taking potshots at President Obama's health care law."

North Carolina's Brad Miller, who voted for the law, now laments that "we would all have been better off" if Congress had dealt with more pressing issues "and then came back to health care."

Barney Frank complained that the Democrats "paid a terrible price for health care." And Virginia's outgoing Sen. Jim Webb said the law would be Obama's "biggest downside" in the election and had cost him "a lot of credibility as a leader."

Meanwhile, stalwart Massachusetts liberal Elizabeth Warren is now calling to repeal a piece of ObamaCare — the 2.3% tax on medical devices — because, she says, it "disproportionately impacts the small companies with the narrowest financial margins."

Warren, by the way, is running for the Senate seat occupied by Republican Scott Brown, whose victory in 2010 was a result of the public's intense opposition...

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This fear is even more evident when you look at the growing opposition among Democrats to Obama's position on the Keystone XL pipeline.

Obama may have thought he'd cleverly handled the issue by putting it off until next year, and that no one would think to defy his veto threats.

But when Republicans called his bluff with a bill to force a start on construction, 69 Democrats rushed to join them, giving the House bill a veto-proof majority. The Senate bill is just a vote or two away from overcoming a Democratic filibuster...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: keystone; keystonexl; obama; obamacare
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To: GlockThe Vote

As demo rats run away from Obama, the ABR run to Obama. Amazing.


Using your logic it’s a wash as the ones leaving Obama are going to support Romney.


51 posted on 04/21/2012 8:54:23 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: neverdem

” - - - But when Republicans called his bluff with a bill to force a start on construction, 69 Democrats rushed to join them, giving the House bill a veto-proof majority.”

HEY, RINOs! See what happens when you stop being RINOs?

The system works, all y’all have to do is have Titanium BACKBONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


52 posted on 04/21/2012 8:56:31 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: neverdem
The notoriously thin-skinned Obama...but, but, but - he has such a nice personality - he's so well-liked personally......
53 posted on 04/21/2012 8:56:51 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: neverdem
North Carolina's Brad Miller, who voted for the law, now laments that "we would all have been better off" if Congress had dealt with more pressing issues "and then came back to health care."

Barney Frank complained that the Democrats "paid a terrible price for health care." And Virginia's outgoing Sen. Jim Webb said the law would be Obama's "biggest downside" in the election and had cost him "a lot of credibility as a leader."

Meanwhile, stalwart Massachusetts liberal Elizabeth Warren is now calling to repeal a piece of ObamaCare — the 2.3% tax on medical devices — because, she says, it "disproportionately impacts the small companies with the narrowest financial margins."

I wonder if Nancy and Harry have any more bribes to hand out...

54 posted on 04/21/2012 9:10:25 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Re the photo of the Democrats:

What a fracking freak show!!!!


55 posted on 04/21/2012 9:12:55 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: neverdem

The dem politicians scream “We were wrong! Re-elect us and we’ll screw you again, you stupid idiots!”


56 posted on 04/21/2012 9:43:18 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, FAMILY GUY)
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To: Tzimisce
I think Obamaland is where the people living in Obamaville go to forget their worries.

Unlike Disneyland, the admission price goes up depending on what you make and what Race you happen to be.

If you make too much, or just have a job, you have to buy tickets for anyone that shows up with an Obama Hoodie, or an EBT Card or a DNC Membership Card.

The longest wait for a ride is for “It's Obama’s World”.

It's Obama after all
It's Obama after all
It's Obama after all
IT'S OBAMA'S WORLD AFTER ALL...

You will never get the tune out of your head.

My favorite ride is “Mr. Zimmerman's Wild Ride (to his Lynching)”.

57 posted on 04/21/2012 10:06:05 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Artcore
Yes, along with taking the Senate and increasing our majority in the House.
Been there done that with GW Bush and we didn't even get a frigg'n Tee shirt.

We've never been able to tell the difference between a Democrat Senator or a Republicn Senator...If Romney is elected...well, we already can't tell the difference with him and he's not even nominated or elected.

Our only hope with your scenario is that an increase in the house would, hopefully, block all of the establisment lunacy from the "Republican" President and the "Republican" controlled Senate.

58 posted on 04/21/2012 10:18:48 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Need to take these people to ride the tea cups....


59 posted on 04/22/2012 12:19:32 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Artcore
They've been running on everything but their record.

Obama runs as the guy who is too nice to kick out. The sooner we realize that his campaign is actually based upon his likability factor, the sooner we can put out the right fire. He is constantly being pushed as the wonderful family man, the man with such a genuine smile (barf), the man who is so soooo nice. He is put forth as humble and nearly, if not, sinless. They want people to so like him that they just cannot pull themselves to the task of not voting for him. He is being run as the man who must be doing things right or he wouldn't be so confident, happy and nice, the man we must trust, even if we don't understand why things don't seem to be going well. He must know something that we don't. A god, we should trust him no matter what (barf).

If we can show his not so nice side, somehow, which we well know he has, to the Nation than we will beat him easily. This is where we should concentrate some effort. It is not so much about politics, as far as they are concerned, but about a created cult of personality.

60 posted on 04/22/2012 1:16:39 AM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Venturer
Those jumping ship are probably in a quabdry.....

Is that a particularly bad sort of quandary?

61 posted on 04/22/2012 1:35:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Artcore
While I'm pi$$ed to have to potentially vote for Romney, at least he doesn't hate the country, capitalism, or our allies.

No, he merely despises them utterly, and laughs at conservatives.

Screw the White Hut. Give me the Senate and House, and Congress can use the Hut for artillery practice. You may recall that Slick Willie, the political paragon of the age, didn't like that experience too much.

62 posted on 04/22/2012 1:40:29 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: reasonisfaith
They jump ship when it’s politically necessary for them. It’s always good news for conservatives.

That's why it's more important to get the public on our side of the issues than it is to win elections. Like Newt proved in the '90s with welfare reform, if you get enough of the public to back you, the Democrats will capitulate. It's a democracy and they don't want to lose power. Even if Obama is reelected, we can still seek to get veto-proof majorities to go around him when we have the kind of support that these two issues have.

63 posted on 04/22/2012 1:45:51 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Artcore
While I'm pi$$ed to have to potentially vote for Romney, at least he doesn't hate the country, capitalism, or our allies.

That depends if you think capitalism is the same thing as corporatism and crony capitalism. If you listen to Levin as you say, then you would know which of those philosophies he believes Romney agrees with.

Romney is as ignorant about the military as Herman Cain or Obama was. Considering that even Obama flip-flopped on a lot of his liberal military-related positions, it's almost impossible to know how Romney would act as commander-in-chief. My best guess is very Clinton-esque, so, as soon as a military action became unpopular, he would pull out and abandon our allies.

As far as whether Romney "hates the country," that's a simplistic statement that I can't translate directly into policy. My opinion is progressives by their nature either hate or at least want to abandon the foundations this country was built on. Romney has described himself as progressive and governed that way in terms of key foundational issues like socialized medicine and homosexual marriage. That makes him not any different from Obama as someone who claims to love the country but undermines the Judeo-Christian tradition and tradition of individualism that made the country what it is.

64 posted on 04/22/2012 2:03:14 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: neverdem

The rats who make it through the election will be back in true form come January 2013.


65 posted on 04/22/2012 4:09:05 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: gorush

Rats just appear to be jumping ship, it’s all in thier strategy. Once relected they will be on board again and the deception worked, those stupid Americans!


66 posted on 04/22/2012 4:18:51 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: lewislynn
“Been there done that with GW Bush and we didn't even get a frigg’n Tee shirt.”
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Look, I don't completely disagree with you on this. I think Bush did a good deal of damage to the conservative movement (at least the GOP) during his time in office, but he did pave the way, along with the GOP Congress for some substantial tax cuts. Good grief, at least under the GOP during the Bush years, unemployment was at about 5% and the economy was growing.

While I certainly understand your frustration, this is our reality. As I said, who ever the GOP candidate turns out to be...I'll vote for them.

67 posted on 04/22/2012 6:41:45 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Bellflower
“Obama runs as the guy who is too nice to kick out. The sooner we realize that his campaign is actually based upon his likability factor, the sooner we can put out the right fire. He is constantly being pushed as the wonderful family man, the man with such a genuine smile (barf), the man who is so soooo nice. He is put forth as humble and nearly, if not, sinless. They want people to so like him that they just cannot pull themselves to the task of not voting for him. He is being run as the man who must be doing things right or he wouldn't be so confident, happy and nice, the man we must trust, even if we don't understand why things don't seem to be going well. He must know something that we don't. A god, we should trust him no matter what (barf).”
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Sadly, I think the only dumba$$es that have been falling for this are McConnell, Boehner, Cantor, and few of the other worthless GOP “leaders!” It's these GOPe that HAVE TO BE REPLACED! These few I mentioned are GUTLESS COWARDS!

“If we can show his not so nice side, somehow, which we well know he has, to the Nation than we will beat him easily. This is where we should concentrate some effort. It is not so much about politics, as far as they are concerned, but about a created cult of personality.”

I think Obama and the Dems have been doing this to themselves. They showed how they really feel about women (at least Stay-At-Home-Moms). This backfired big time! And they've also shown that they're nothing but hateful Race Pimps...a la George Zimmerman! Some polls have also shown that Dear Leader is no longer connecting to the younger crowd (minus the maggot infested OWS groupies) either. I think Obama and the Dems are showing who they really are: hateful, mean, racist, anti-women dirtbags. I agree wih that the GOP should be exploiting this at every turn. I laugh at John Boehner’s assertion that Obama, while doing horrible politically, is personally liked and admired by the American people! Ha! Hey John, get a clue, we the people see Obama as a totalitarian, Marxist thug who's out to destroy our nation!

68 posted on 04/22/2012 6:54:26 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore
Good grief, at least under the GOP during the Bush years, unemployment was at about 5% and the economy was growing.

Not really. The stock market broke in 2000, and Bush's entire tenure of office was dominated by pigs at the trough grabbing what they could from a declining economy lubricated by massive tranches of expedient Fed money, as both Fed and Administration became non-ideological dealers in Keynesian fixes and reflationary (and porkulent) tax cuts: Untax untax, spend and grab, spend and grab, pork out and elect, pork out and elect -- all under the shadow of national-security spending and defense against terrorism, as the Administration combined Reaganaut tax-cutting with Johnsonian and Rooseveltian war-fighting on borrowed money shoveled out by the Fed.

If you don't like that explanation, try rolling your own -- but be careful to explain how, if that didn't happen, Goldman Sachs common stock got to $250 a share in 2007. (Oink!)

Frankly, I think a lot of that thematic pretzeling was Dick Cheney's idea; he learned flexuousness of principle and the advantages of rising above during his time in Nixon's White House.

There's pragmatism, and then there's pig-matism: I think the Bush Administration practiced both, combining the impulses of both the Nixon and Bush 41 administrations.

People talk about outsourcing: Bush's people practiced outporking. They outporked everything they could get their hands on, and managed to make the Clinton Administration look like a bunch of fiscal choirboys by comparison, as they rode the Reagan boom and let a rising economy do its magic for them.

69 posted on 04/22/2012 12:26:11 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Walter Russell Mead: Millennials Turning Away from Obama

Obama Sees Steep Dropoff in Cash From Major Donors Front page above the fold!

New details in Fast & Furious

China's High-Tech Military Threat

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70 posted on 04/22/2012 12:48:10 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


71 posted on 04/22/2012 1:10:31 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: combat_boots
I look at that pic, of 0bama, nearly as white as the security guy behind him

Look at the contrast in the area where his wristwatch usually sits.

72 posted on 04/22/2012 1:22:23 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (The only thing liberals favor manufacturing here is fake outrage.)
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To: neverdem
The importance of this fight is huge. If Democrats defy him, it will severely undermine Obama's claim that he's pursuing an all-of-the-above energy strategy.

Some democRats might still love America.

If I wanted America to fail

73 posted on 04/22/2012 1:22:49 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: neverdem

This is great news


74 posted on 04/22/2012 2:24:36 PM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lysandru

Read the freakin’ bill? Dems are much too important to be bothered with that type of thing. Remember they’re smarter, better looking and “Oh so much more important” than the rest of us....


75 posted on 04/22/2012 2:50:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: Artcore

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. To clarify, I will definitely be voting for the republican nominee no matter who it is. And as an aside, here in Florida I did vote for Newt in the primary.


76 posted on 04/22/2012 2:53:08 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Libloather
images of the half-nekkid rookie Hussein

That's a picture of Barack, not Michelle.

Oh wait, did you say 'rookie'? Nevermind, I thought you said 'wookie'.

77 posted on 04/22/2012 3:08:57 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Venturer; All
If they really want to jump ship......CHANGE PARTIES.
78 posted on 04/22/2012 3:17:27 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: subterfuge

Yeah, maybe the pubs and conjure up another “power sharing” agreement. How sickening was that?

I prefer my way or the highway when we take charge - do to them worse than what they did to us.


79 posted on 04/22/2012 5:07:48 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: gorush
Democrats only jump ship when it’s too late for all of us.

Sad but true, mostly.

80 posted on 04/22/2012 7:08:19 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big drug/oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,earthquake/tsumani,fnc,wall st)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.


81 posted on 04/22/2012 7:54:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


82 posted on 04/22/2012 9:18:42 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Artcore
It is interesting that on another thread a poster linked to a family photo of them at Christmas time. The comments under the photo positively drip with syrup and honey all about what a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful family they are. It really proves my point about how his major campaign directive is to constantly paint him/them as the perfect family, nearing, if not, gods. This is all flying under the Republican's radar, as Republicans don't think this way, so they are not relating to how he is actually campaigning for the American heart, not the mind, and it has been largely working. We MUST address this major issue if we do not want to risk losing the election and not even have figured out why.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/15/obama-family-portrait-2011_n_1151823.html (Read the comments, but be prepared to barf as they are so syrupy.)

83 posted on 04/23/2012 2:09:06 AM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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