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Pentagon releases results of 13,000-mph test flight over Pacific
LA Times ^ | 4/20/12 | W.J. Hennigan

Posted on 04/21/2012 8:17:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker

The results are in from last summer’s attempt to test new technology that would provide the Pentagon with a lightning-fast vehicle, capable of delivering a military strike anywhere in the world in less than an hour.

In August the Pentagon's research arm, known as the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, carried out a test flight of an experimental aircraft capable of traveling at 20 times the speed of sound.

The arrowhead-shaped unmanned aircraft, dubbed Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2, blasted off from Vandenberg Air Force Base, northwest of Santa Barbara, into the upper reaches of the Earth's atmosphere aboard an eight-story Minotaur IV rocket made by Orbital Sciences Corp.

After reaching an undisclosed altitude, the aircraft jettisoned from its protective cover atop the rocket, then nose-dived back toward Earth, leveled out and glided above the Pacific at 20 times the speed of sound, or Mach 20.

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1 posted on 04/21/2012 8:17:28 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
That is simply incredible...We are and will remain at least 20 years ahead of any other nation when it comes to military technology and power...

Now I will wait for the fools to come and claim that the nation of slaves, China, is not only catching us in military technology but ahead of us...LOL...

2 posted on 04/21/2012 8:22:37 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
"Now I will wait for the fools to come and claim that ... China, is not only catching us in military technology but ahead of us...LOL..."

Why would they have to catch us when administrations like the Clintons and Obamas give them our technology?

3 posted on 04/21/2012 8:26:34 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: LibWhacker

It’s Aurora! LOL


4 posted on 04/21/2012 8:27:19 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: LibWhacker

A hypersonic glider. Pretty cool.


5 posted on 04/21/2012 8:28:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Flag_This

Clinton supporters Loral had an accident in China that resulted in the “loss” of a guidance chip.

Clinton took money from the daughter of a chinese general.

No one cares, dancing with the stars in on and Republicans are racist anyway.

sigh...


6 posted on 04/21/2012 8:30:59 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: jveritas

Buy American.

So it stays that way.


7 posted on 04/21/2012 8:32:35 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: LibWhacker

Soooo...

How soon can we expect to launch one to Iran, and Syria, and Egypt, and Afghanistan, and....


8 posted on 04/21/2012 8:36:41 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: jveritas

Well that explains the mysterious vapor trails off the California coast that was in the news last year


9 posted on 04/21/2012 8:38:39 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Bones75
It’s Aurora! LOL

I wouldn't laugh. We know from long experience that our military's development curve is always decades ahead of the state of the art.

Allow yourself to dream 20 years into the future, and that's the hardware they've got right now.

10 posted on 04/21/2012 8:42:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Flag_This

Oh stop the stupid conspiracy theory... Tell me please how can the President give technologies to a nation without being exposed?


11 posted on 04/21/2012 8:45:14 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Windflier

Exactly and we shall keep it as such...


12 posted on 04/21/2012 8:47:11 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: LibWhacker
That be serious gliding at Mach 20!
13 posted on 04/21/2012 8:50:03 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: LibWhacker

Bump for American dominance of the skies.


14 posted on 04/21/2012 8:51:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: LibWhacker

This is terrifically exciting technology. $300M since 2003? Chump change of the DoD budget, especially compared to its potential.


15 posted on 04/21/2012 8:53:11 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: jveritas
Exactly and we shall keep it as such...

Amen...USA!

16 posted on 04/21/2012 8:53:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jveritas
"Oh stop the stupid conspiracy theory... Tell me please how can the President give technologies to a nation without being exposed?"

Oh, I don't know... one way might be to transfer oversight of dual-use technology from the State Dept. to the Commerce Dept. like Bill Clinton did in '96, with this result:

According to the GAO, "vulnerabilities in the Dept. of Commerce's deemed export control system could help China and other countries of concern improve their military capabilities.""...in fiscal year 2001 China accounted for over 70% of the 822 export licenses approved by the Commerce Department."
GAO-Commerce Exports Could Help Chinese Military

It probably is just a zany conspiracy theory after all...

17 posted on 04/21/2012 9:00:22 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: jveritas
It was exposed and thorougly detailed. Tim Russert screamed about it for weeks, even calling it treason, but no one cared.

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON SECTION: RED FLAGS OF TREASON SUBSECTION: MISSILE LAUNCH AND GUIDANCE

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON SECTION: RED FLAGS OF TREASON SUBSECTION: COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY

Only an idiot would deny that it happened.

18 posted on 04/21/2012 9:02:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jveritas

Given that we seem intent on destroying ourselves, the PRC won’t need to do anything special to surpass us in the long run.


19 posted on 04/21/2012 9:04:18 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: TigersEye

The Communist Chinese know that JPL is open for business.

They intend to be well paid for fronting the US this ‘loan.’


20 posted on 04/21/2012 9:05:32 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: jveritas
Now I will wait for the fools to come and claim that the nation of slaves, China, is not only catching us in military technology but ahead of us...LOL...

Yeah. The Nazis were launching V2 rockets againt England. They were decades ahead of the Allies. Lot of good it did them. Lots of Tears LOT.

21 posted on 04/21/2012 9:05:51 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Flag_This

Highly secret military technologies are not going to be approved for export to China no matter how many conspiracy theories say otherwise for the simple reason that they are not available in a regular market, they are totally controlled by the militray. The only way the Chinese can obtain them is to steal them via spies...If you work in any corporation you would realize how extremely strict the export compliance rules are...Even basic technologies are highly regulated when it comes to export...


22 posted on 04/21/2012 9:08:37 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
"Highly secret military technologies are not going to be approved for export to China no matter how many conspiracy theories say otherwise..."

Well, thank goodness for that! Otherwise, one might think China has experienced a quantum leap in their ballistic missile capabilities since the mid-90's.

23 posted on 04/21/2012 9:14:55 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: jveritas
Wall Street Journal 4/14/98 Editorial "…President Clinton approved the transfer of missile guidance technology to China at the behest of the largest personal contributor to the Democratic Party. He granted the needed waiver despite an ongoing Department of Justice criminal investigation of the same company's earlier transfer of similar technology: a Pentagon study concluding that in the earlier episode "United States national security has been harmed." That is the essence of a report yesterday by Jeff Gerth of the New York Times (who also reported the original Whitewater story in 1992) concerning satellite launch technology provided by Loral Space and Communications and Hughes Electronics, a subsidiary of General Motors.

Well, of course the Pentagon is just a tin-foil hat source but the WSJ isn't. /s

24 posted on 04/21/2012 9:16:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: LibWhacker

LOOSE LIPS, SINK SHIPS!

Why in the hell are we even talking about this technology, much less provide a artistic rendering of what it looks like.

Let’s perfect the technology, Crow about it once perfected, and keep the shape a total secret!!

Why can the US be so stupid??


25 posted on 04/21/2012 9:16:39 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
The V2 rockets came late in the war when the German military was already broken and certainly the V2 rockets were not a match in destruction or effectiveness to the hundreds of planes raiding Germany day and night. V2 rockets were used because Germany lost its air power and they could not lunch effective airwar against the allies.

However back to present time we are still by far the most powerful and most dominant airpower in the world, and by far the most powerful and most dominant military in the world and this hypersonic plane is only going to leap us decades forward of our closest competition being ally or foe.

26 posted on 04/21/2012 9:16:39 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: eclecticEel

May be you need to move to PRC with your family where your children would be working as slave labor and you will be shot in front of them for expressing your opinion against the ruling communists...Try it and let us know...


27 posted on 04/21/2012 9:19:15 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: TigersEye

I made my comment about the fools coming to the thread and telling us about the nation of slaves China is going to get our technology and I was not wrong...Pavlov should have conducted his experiment on humans and not just dogs...


28 posted on 04/21/2012 9:21:00 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
No, you said this...

Oh stop the stupid conspiracy theory... Tell me please how can the President give technologies to a nation without being exposed?

Didn't you?

29 posted on 04/21/2012 9:24:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jveritas
"...we are still by far the most powerful and most dominant airpower in the world, and by far the most powerful and most dominant military in the world and this hypersonic plane is only going to leap us decades forward of our closest competition being ally or foe."

If your "leadership" lacks the will to use a weapon then it doesn't matter how advanced it is... particularly if your enemies know you lack the will.

30 posted on 04/21/2012 9:24:55 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: jveritas
More tin-foil from Tony Snow...

Commentmax.com 4/29/99 Tony Snow "... The trouble began when Clinton effectively abolished export controls on China in 1994. The decision invited American businesses to get rich by trading away our security….. Satellite and rocket companies also jumped on the gravy train. Hughes sold rockets to China -- and solved a gyroscopic problem that had reduced the accuracy of Beijing's long-range nuclear weapons. Now, thanks to Yankee know-how, China can aim its city-buster bombs directly at U.S. population centers. The Loral Corp. made hay, as well. The company's chairman, Bernard Schwartz, evidently bought his way onto a 1995 trade mission to China and sealed a deal that enabled him to sell sophisticated communications satellites to our former Cold War foe. Loral satellites now guide the Chinese air force, and China reportedly has acquired a Loral computer chip that holds the key to decoding communications between U.S. satellites. ...."

31 posted on 04/21/2012 9:27:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Yes I did and I am sticking with what I said...All the stupid articles that were posted here about Clinton giving missile technology to China are utter BS...Our side comes up with crap from time to time and that is one of them...Do you really believe that a President can get away with TREASON? Because if what you guys claim Clinton did is true than it is TREASON. If it is true the whole country would have known about it and it would have been the biggest scandal in US history and Clinton would have been been impeached and removed from office for this and not for get a BJ in the Oval office and lying about it under oath...
32 posted on 04/21/2012 9:38:10 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
Did you see the dozens of articles at the link? Since when has the WaPo been "our side?"

Washington Post 5/16/99 Walter Pincus and Vernon Loeb "...The long-awaited document, which could be released this week, concludes that U.S. national security has been damaged by China's theft or acquisition of nuclear warhead secrets, satellite and missile technology, supercomputers, telecommunications equipment, jet engines and sophisticated machine tools..... The investigation initially focused on two leading U.S. satellite makers, Hughes Electronics Corp. and Loral Space & Communications, under criminal investigation by the Justice Department for allegedly sharing unauthorized information with China about the failure of two Chinese Long March rockets in 1995 and 1996 carrying U.S.-built satellites. Loral's chief executive officer, Bernard Schwartz, was the Democratic Party's largest single donor in the 1996 campaigns. Both companies have denied wrongdoing. But the Cox committee, with a staff of 45 and a $2 million budget, soon broadened its investigation to include the transfer of all sensitive technology to China, from satellites to supercomputers. Last fall, staff investigators learned of an FBI criminal investigation into suspected Chinese espionage at Los Alamos National Laboratory and soon came to focus on China's theft of nuclear secrets....."

You're nuts if you don't think Clinton got away with treason. Do you think 0bama is not getting away with treason right now?

33 posted on 04/21/2012 9:45:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jveritas

Eh, there actually was some technology transfer under Clinton. It was “dual-use” technology that got defined as “commercial” to enable sales.

However, people need to keep in mind that there was explicit military tech transfer under Reagan and Bush I (including direct sale of weapons like lightweight torpedoes). Of course, at the time China was an ally against the Soviet Union.

The problem is that people exaggerate the tech transfer that did take place, to give the impression that the Chinese would be armed with sticks and rocks today were it not for Bill Clinton. Totally not the case.

In terms of military technology that was overtly sold to China and not stolen through espionage, the overwhelming majority of Chinese military tech is Russian; quite a lot is French, and a decent amount is Israeli, and there’s more of each than what was explicitly given to China by the US.

Also it needs to be kept in mind that the Chinese have had the ability to put multi-megaton ICBMs on US cities since the early Reagan adminstration; that capability was not the result of what the Clintons gave them.


34 posted on 04/21/2012 9:46:22 PM PDT by Strategerist
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Because if what you guys claim Clinton did is true than it is TREASON.

Really? No kidding? lol

If it is true the whole country would have known about it and it would have been the biggest scandal in US history and Clinton would have been been impeached and removed from office for this and not for get a BJ in the Oval office and lying about it under oath...

Yeah, right, the media would have told everybody /s

(actually some of them did, as I said Tim Russert screamed TREASON for weeks on end).

35 posted on 04/21/2012 9:48:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jveritas
That is simply incredible...We are and will remain at least 20 years ahead of any other nation when it comes to military technology and power...

If you are "wowed" by this - then just wait until our own government turns these great and advanced weapons on "we the people..."

36 posted on 04/21/2012 9:50:42 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: jveritas

How long before China steals the data/design..... ?


37 posted on 04/21/2012 9:54:18 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Strategerist
Didn't improve their systems much eh?

Washington Post 5/25/99 Juliet Eilperin and Vernon Loeb Page A01 "...As for stolen U.S. military technology, the committee reports that China has stolen guidance technology now being used in U.S. missiles and fighter aircraft, including the F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-117 fighter jets. The committee concludes that this guidance technology is of enormous value to China in its development of intercontinental ballistic missiles and short-range CSS-6 missiles, which China test-fired over Taiwan's main ports in 1996. The committee, which began its probe last July by focusing on missile and satellite technology transfers, concludes that U.S. satellite manufacturers gave China missile design information without obtaining required U.S. government licenses that enabled Chinese engineers to improve the reliability of Chinese rockets used for commercial and military purposes. The committee concludes that Hughes Electronics Corp. and Loral Space & Communications passed sensitive technical information to China as part of a 1996 investigation into the failure of a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a Loral-built commercial satellite without an export license, even though both companies knew they needed a license.... Loral's chief executive officer, Bernard Schwartz, was the Democratic Party's largest single donor in 1996. C. Michael Armstrong, Hughes's chief executive from 1994 to 1997, strongly lobbied for the Clinton administration's March 1996 transfer of licensing authority over commercial satellites from the State Department, known for its focus on national security concerns, to the Commerce Department, with its emphasis on promoting U.S. exports. ...."

38 posted on 04/21/2012 9:55:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jveritas

Dream on. All of this stuff is created by private corporations on contract to DARPA, etc. China is very busy doing corporate espionage. Do some reading on it before you post again. You won’t look so silly.


39 posted on 04/21/2012 9:56:19 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: jveritas
Billy Boy, in plain sight, authorized the sell of INS systems that would make the Long-March missile what it is today.

Billy felt bad that the inept Chinese kept crashing launches into villages resulting in hundreds, if not thousands, of deaths.

“In 1996, President Bill Clinton personally signed an executive order transferring control of satellite technology to the Department of Commerce; thus releasing restraints on a wide variety of sophisticated space and missile technology which were then exported to China.”

Open conspiracy, if you must.

40 posted on 04/21/2012 9:58:03 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Strategerist

Excellent points...


41 posted on 04/21/2012 10:00:57 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
I suppose ABC is a right-wing outfit and Clinton's own State Dept. are loons too?

ABCNEWS.com 4/7/00 "…..The State Department is accusing Lockheed Martin Corp. with illegally exporting technology to a Chinese company that could help China improve its missile technology. Lockheed, the largest U.S. defense contractor, conducted 30 violations of the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, the department said in a letter to the company dated Tuesday. The Bethesda, Maryland-based company could be fined up to $15 million and barred from export licenses for three years. A company spokesman told reporters that Lockheed had done nothing wrong and would appeal the State Department decision…………The letter, a copy of which was obtained today by ABCNEWS, says that Lockheed had specialists assess Chinese manufactured satellite kick motors for use in Chinese government Long March 2E launch vehicles, or missiles. A kick motor fires after launch to send a satellite into its final orbit………… In addition, Lockheed had in 1994 sent the company, Asia Satellite Telecommunications Company Limited, or Asiasat, a 50-page technical letter that the Pentagon had ordered reduced to about five pages, according to the State Department…….."Lockheed Martin Corporation did not at any time inform the U.S. government of these exports prior to the recent disclosure of these facts through an investigation conducted by the U.S. Customs Service," the letter says……….In performing and sharing the study, Lockheed also violated U.S. rules by identifying flaws in Chinese testing procedures, confirming the results of Chinese tests pinpointing faulty insulation, and identifying problems with U.S. solid rocket motor technologies, according to the State Department letter……."

42 posted on 04/21/2012 10:03:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: All
And then there's Bill Gertz the "notoriously inaccurate" national defense and security expert.

Gertz 11/5/1998 "…… The report also said the PLA is using U.S. GPS and Global Navigation Satellite Systems (Glonass) satellites in developing advanced weapons and may use these satellites "to improve the accuracy of its missiles." …….. "GPS updates would provide the potential to improve missile accuracy through midcourse guidance correction and increase the operational flexibility of road-mobile platforms," the report said. The road-mobile platforms include two new intercontinental ballistic missiles identified by the Pentagon as the DF-31 and DF-41, which will have ranges of 5,000 miles and 7,500 miles, respectively. New submarine-launched nuclear missiles also are in development. ……"

43 posted on 04/21/2012 10:06:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

So where is Bill Clinton involvement here in giving China secret militray technology? I do not see any...Stop wasting your time researching crap to confirm your crazy conspiracy theory that a US President committed treason by giving secret military technology to China...because he did not give secret military technology to China...


44 posted on 04/21/2012 10:09:04 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Al
Well, golly gee whiz!, how could Clinton possibly get away with it?

newsmax.com 5/3/00 "……. Attorney General Janet Reno rejected his recommendation to investigate President Clinton's connection to a Democrat fund-raiser tied to the sale of hi-tech missile data to China, a former Justice Department official testified yesterday. Appearing before a Senate subcommittee, Charles G. LaBella testified that he requested that an independent counsel be sought to investigate the relationship between Mr. Clinton and Bernard L. Schwartz, chief executive officer at Loral Space & Communications Ltd, but the attorney general refused to go along with the recommendation. …….. According to the Washington Times, the House Select Committee on U.S. National Security and Military/Commercial Concerns with the People's Republic of China had singled out Loral for supplying key missile-related expertise that damaged U.S. national security. …….. The committee asserted that Loral assisted China without first obtaining U.S. licenses even though the corporation knew licenses for sensitive, militarily useful technology transfers were required. …… The technology transfer, the committee said, allowed China to improve the reliability of its missiles, noting that China had stolen secrets on every deployed U.S. nuclear missile warhead in recent years and had 20 long-range missiles aimed at the United States. …….."

45 posted on 04/21/2012 10:09:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: All
Thank goodness for Attorney Generals to keep us from doing silly thing. We can all relax about Eric Holder now.

newsmax.com 5/3/00 "…….LaBella, author of a memo to Reno that remains secret, was questioned about its contents. He told the senators that the task force he headed was convinced that if Schwartz - who gave $1.5 million to the Democratic National Committee - was to be investigated to learn if the technology transfers were tied to his donations to the DNC, the inquiry should also include the president. LaBella said he made the recommendation to Reno in a July 1998 memo but that one of Reno's top executives, Lee Radek, head of the department's public integrity section, called the recommendation "silly." ..."

46 posted on 04/21/2012 10:12:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Strategerist
Military technology is not just weaponry.

Also it needs to be kept in mind that the Chinese have had the ability to put multi-megaton ICBMs on US cities since the early Reagan adminstration; that capability was not the result of what the Clintons gave them.

Really? And you know that how?

47 posted on 04/21/2012 10:16:06 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: All
The L.A. Times, another right-wing paper, reports the biggest fine ever levied paid by Lockheed Martin Corp. for illegally helping the ChiComs.

LA Times 6/14/00 Norman Kempster "……Lockheed Martin Corp. will pay a record $13-million fine for illegally helping the Chinese government correct critical defects in the rocket motor for its Long March 2E satellite launch vehicle, Clinton administration officials said Tuesday. Lockheed, the world's largest defense contractor, consented to the penalty to settle charges brought by the State Department in April. The fine was the largest ever imposed under the Arms Export Control Act, eclipsing a $10-million penalty imposed on Boeing Corp. in 1998. "The settlement is in recognition of the government's concerns about protecting national security through strict regulatory controls and Lockheed Martin's commitment to compliance with these regulations," said company spokesman James Fetig……..Although the firm was not required to admit guilt to settle the case, it agreed to pay a fine that was only slightly short of the $15-million maximum that could have been imposed if the government had prevailed on all 30 counts of the charges in a proceeding before an administrative law judge……"

48 posted on 04/21/2012 10:21:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: LibWhacker

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49 posted on 04/21/2012 10:23:35 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Nothing to see here folks. Just right-wing AP trying to smear a good Democrat president. Move along.

AP 5/22/98 "……. `The criminal division of the Justice Department has cautioned that a national interest waiver in this case could have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution that might take place based on a pending investigation of export violation,'' National Security Adviser Sandy Berger wrote the president on Feb. 12. …..Clinton granted the waiver just six days later ……Just two weeks before the decision, Schwartz, a lifelong Democrat and early supporter of Clinton, was at the White House to attend a state dinner Feb. 5 for British prime minister Tony Blair. ……"

50 posted on 04/21/2012 10:24:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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