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Rubio doesn't close door on VP slot
The Hill ^ | April 22, 2012 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 04/22/2012 12:17:21 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) didn't fully close the door on accepting the vice presidential slot if Mitt Romney asked him.

Rubio, who has repeatedly denied any interest in the slot, said that he wanted to "respect the process" Romney has put in place to make a selection and would no longer address it.

"I'm not going to even discuss the process anymore. I'm going to be respectful of the process he's put in place," said Rubio on CNN'S "State of the Union" on Sunday morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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To: samtheman

IMO, just plain ol’ “citizen”


51 posted on 04/22/2012 1:57:32 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: WhiskeyX

WhiskeyX, a question for you, respectfully:

1. Naturalized... foreign born, attaining US citizenship.
2. Natural Born... born in the US of US citizen parents.
3. ____________... born in the US of parents who are not US citizens.

What is #3 called: __________ ?

(Besides “anchor baby”)


52 posted on 04/22/2012 1:59:42 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: WhiskeyX; Drew68

Drew has already been zotted out of here at least once.

I had some screen caps of him over at politijab mocking FR, he’s a troll.


53 posted on 04/22/2012 2:00:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Pirsig289; yldstrk

I see you are quite new to this forum, Pirsig289, and have yet to learn not to call another FReeper a derogatory name in place of actually making a cogent argument. You also may want to check your facts about eligibility before spouting off.


54 posted on 04/22/2012 2:01:51 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: DrewsMum

They claimed to have retained their U.S. citizenship, but no one has any evidence to document the fact that they never surrendered or forfeited their U.S. citizenship after emigrating to Mexico and immigrating back into the United States as refugees from the Mexican revolutionaries. So far, all we have are unsubstantiated claims by the Romney family and their supporters.

Furthermore, they disregard the past practice of the U.S. Government advising U.S. military families that their foreign born children of U.S. citizen are not natural born citizens. This was done by officers of the U.S. Government in the 1945-1980 era before ignoring the eligibility issue became popular.


55 posted on 04/22/2012 2:04:15 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

WhiskeyX that is exactly why I do not care to have rubio as the v.p. candidate.
IF amnesty is allowed again it will ensure another 60 million latins come over the border due to family ties to said illegals.
In other words you allow one guat in they will ahve another 35 family members who will come and get on assistance each bringing another 35.


56 posted on 04/22/2012 2:05:10 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Pirsig289
MORON he was born in this country, has a real birth certificate, it doesn’t make a difference if his parents were citizens or not.

The Birth Bozos have latched onto the term "Native Born" and turned it into something that its NOT. Native Born is merely a subset of Natural Born. For example, George Romney was Natural Born but not Native Born because both of his parents were American citizens at the time of his birth in Mexico. OTOH, his son Mitt Romney is both Natural Born and Native Born because he was born in the USA as was Marco Rubio.

There is NO separate Native Born category. There are ONLY two types of US citizens: Natural Born and Naturalized.

57 posted on 04/22/2012 2:06:42 PM PDT by PJ-Comix ("How To Overcome Writer's Block In Less Than An Hour" ---Available at Amazon)
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To: Pirsig289

Wrong, he’s invalid for the office for the SAME reason Obombie is, NOT a “Natural Born Citizen!

His parents were not citizens, just as Obombies father was not a U.S. citizen.

To accept him as eligible you also have to accept Obombie as eligible, or are you a subscriber to “Situational ethics”, changing what the law means depending on what offers you an advantage?


58 posted on 04/22/2012 2:14:40 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: PJ-Comix
FYI....just for edification purposes.

This is a long thread but contains phenomenal research and info.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2450158/posts

59 posted on 04/22/2012 2:17:51 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: PJ-Comix
BTW, "The Birth Bozos"

is very unbecoming of you, I had thought better of you then to stoop to that level of "ridicule"

60 posted on 04/22/2012 2:21:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Pirsig289

You spout out at the mouth there noob. Welcome to fr and stfu.


61 posted on 04/22/2012 2:27:40 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Drew has already been zotted out of here at least once.

And yet here I am, calling out birthers who want to pollute Rubio threads with their nonsense.

62 posted on 04/22/2012 2:38:07 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: samtheman

The person is “called” a U.S. National in some cases or a U.S. Citizen in other cases. The basis upon which the person is a U.S. National or a U.S. Citizen when the parents were not U.S. Nationals or U.S. Citizens is described as native born citizenship arising from an application of the jus soli or law of the soil doctrine by an Acto of Congress in the form of U.S. statutory law.

Because citizenship derived from a statute can be eliminated in the future by the repeal of the statute, such citizenship is distinguishable from natural born citizenship resulting from natural law requiring no statute that could be repealed in the future.


63 posted on 04/22/2012 2:38:27 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Drew68

All you are doing is embarrassing yourself and those you attempt to promote with your abusive conduct.


64 posted on 04/22/2012 2:40:30 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Drew68

Should I post your anti FR screen caps?


65 posted on 04/22/2012 2:42:17 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Love it! John Q. Putin, sooooooooo not an alien lol


66 posted on 04/22/2012 2:43:10 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mupcat

Did he get naturalized BEFORE Mittens was born?


67 posted on 04/22/2012 2:45:20 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Drew68; WhiskeyX
Politijab.com • View topic - Hi. My name is Drew.

www.politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3958...25

Jun 20, 2010 – Politijab is a members only forum. Registration is free. We look forward to you ... LVR1 wrote: You're buste Drew68 Love, Las Vegas Ron.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&gs_nf=1&tok=Tm7YE1lNQnZgjqhqhMjbkw&cp=6&gs_id=m&xhr=t&q=drew+68+politijab&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=drew68&aq=0s&aqi=g-s1&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1db2448d0c59a407

LOL, I see your favorite FR bashing site took a DUmp, should I go on or have you embarrassed yourself enough?

68 posted on 04/22/2012 2:49:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: yldstrk

Sun Yat-sen, President of the Republic of China possessed a fraudulent birth certificate issued to him by the Territory of Hawaii, so the pro-Rubio supporters could argue he was also eligible to the Office of the President of the United States as well as President of the Republic of China. This eligibility fraud is endless. Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain Sir Winston Churchill had a former U.S. Citizen mother. Imagine the claim for a President Sir Winston Churchill.


69 posted on 04/22/2012 2:49:41 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: yldstrk

The Romney family claims they never lost their U.S. Citizenship when they emigrated to Mexico, so they claim Romney Sr. was born with U.S. Citizenship in Mexico. Documentation of those claims had never been forthcoming from the Romneys.


70 posted on 04/22/2012 2:52:41 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: PJ-Comix

I don’t see where it matters who RINO Romney picks for VP..

Would his choice somehow erase all of the reasons why he should not be in the White House?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2872793/posts


71 posted on 04/22/2012 2:54:26 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Should I post your anti FR screen caps?

I've posted nothing over there that I haven't posted over here. But, hey, since a handful of two-year old posts are the best you've got, knock yourself out!

72 posted on 04/22/2012 2:57:19 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: WhiskeyX

Thanks WhiskeyX


73 posted on 04/22/2012 2:59:28 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: PJ-Comix

“GEE! I’m almost surprised you didn’t mention that Rubio is the Son of Satan.”

SOS: Anyone who would run with Romney—same thing. `SOB’ has been taken.


74 posted on 04/22/2012 2:59:53 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Red Steel

Damn, I almost thought the wiggster had returned, whew!

160 posted on 04/03/2010 3:17:32 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron

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I think it was parsifal who, last week, dubbed the FR anti-Birthers as the ‘Sanity Squad.’ Now EnderWiggins has been banned, Drew68 has voluntarily withdrawn from Birther debate, and parsifal himself was personally threatened with a ban by Jim Robinson if he continued his Birther opposition. ...by Loren
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http://www.politijab.com/phpBB3/search.php Yo Drew, any questions?

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LOL....this is fun. Wish it wasn’t so easy.


75 posted on 04/22/2012 3:09:08 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: WhiskeyX

What is so hard for you people to understand? If you were born on American Soil, you qualify to run for President. No where in the Constitution does it even mention who your parents were. I would suggest you all actually read it. And if you find the parentige issue, quote the actual part of the Constitution VERBATUM.


76 posted on 04/22/2012 3:20:37 PM PDT by Pirsig289
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yes He could, what is so hard to understand?


77 posted on 04/22/2012 3:20:46 PM PDT by Pirsig289
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To: WhiskeyX

The reason they did that was because the USA didn’t exist when they were born. I am really beginning to question the intelligence of the people on this site.


78 posted on 04/22/2012 3:20:58 PM PDT by Pirsig289
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To: PJ-Comix

Article 2, section one of the Constitution.
?No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Nough said.


79 posted on 04/22/2012 3:21:04 PM PDT by Pirsig289
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To: samtheman
"What is it called when you’re born in the USA of parents who are not citizens?"

That's "native born" as opposed to "natural born".

80 posted on 04/22/2012 3:32:28 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Pirsig289
What is so hard for you people to understand? If you were born on American Soil, you qualify to run for President.

LOL...you crack me up!

You write that the Constituiton doesn't define NBC but you make that lame comment???

Show me in the Constitution it says that!

You must go back to the Founders intent and the nomenclature (semantics for you idiots in Rio Linda) of the time, MORON TROLL!

81 posted on 04/22/2012 3:33:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Pirsig289

The Constitution declared the required citizenship of the parents when it included the phrase “No Person except a natural born Citizen” in the Constitution. At the time this was written into the Constitution there were some states in which a child born on the soil of that state and thereby the United States was NOT eligible to the citizenship of that state or the United States of America. Only a child born to two parents having citizenship in the state/s and the United States was eligible to be born a citizen of that state and the United States, because under the customary and legal doctrine of natural law the citizenship was by nature unquestionable.


82 posted on 04/22/2012 3:35:28 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Pirsig289

“I am really beginning to question the intelligence of the people on this site.”

“a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States”

The Framers excepted themselves or no one would be eligible (at least for many years) since most living Americans had been born British citizens.
Why would they use the phrase “natural born citizen” and not just say a “citizen”? You beg the question or argue in circles by simply stating, “Being born in the US makes one a natural born citizen.”

“Nough said” You put the new in noob and yer cruisin’ for a zot. `Nuff said.


83 posted on 04/22/2012 3:40:01 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Pirsig289
Article 2, section one of the Constitution. ?No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,

Explain the differentiation between Citizen and Natural Born Citizen MORON!

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZO.html

Get it or is it over your head, troll?

84 posted on 04/22/2012 3:41:01 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Pirsig289
Perhaps you would be better advised to look at yourself in the mirror first.

There would have been no reason to have included the natural born citizen clause is any native born citizen or native born national was supposed to be eligible. By including themselves born under the sovereignty of foreign sovereigns as the special exception to the rule, they thereby indicated the natural born citizen clause affected any person born with allegiance to a foreign sovereign whether by place of birth on foreign soil and/or by birth to any parent with allegiance to a foreign sovereign. This is confirmed by the original oaths of allegiance to the United States particularly in regard to King George III and others and by the recommendation of future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States John jay that prompted the inclusion of the natural born citizen phrase in the Constitution.

Your unsupported denials and gainsaying of the eligibility issue does nothing to support your argument more refute the evidence we bring forth against it.

85 posted on 04/22/2012 3:44:42 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Las Vegas Ron; WhiskeyX

I guess we told him, huh?
The whole question is moot because anyone who would run with Romney is looser anyway.
Noobs: Can’t live with `em, can’t tie ‘em up in a sack and drop them off a bridge.


86 posted on 04/22/2012 3:44:49 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Pirsig289

The phrase “a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,” indicates the Framers of the Constitution held that this class of persons were not natural born citizens of the United States, because they were indeed born with allegiance to a foreign sovereign before the United States of America came into existence or after it came into existence but before the adoption of the Constitution determining eligibility to the Office of the President and eligibility to the Office of the Vice President.


87 posted on 04/22/2012 3:50:31 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Pirsig289
I am really beginning to question the intelligence of the people on this site.

Then go back to DU moon.

The reason they did that was because the USA didn’t exist when they were born

Brilliant, you just defeated your own argument.

From that point on, as the Founders intended, you must be Natural Born, a different criteria then just being a Citizen as they were.

88 posted on 04/22/2012 3:56:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Pirsig289

Ooops, moon = moron.

But you knew that...well maybe not.


89 posted on 04/22/2012 3:58:14 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Pirsig289

So Noob, when did you or your family immigrate here?

For years students in this country have been taught that no foreigner/non citizen could come here and have a child that could become president.

Or perhaps you’re young and a product of the commie lib indoctrination centers that pass for schools today. If that is the case, my apologies. It’s not your fault. They would not have informed you of the meaning of Natural Born citizen because they were preparing you to accept the commie invasion we have today.

LOL! Are you really pushing Putin’s baby for president?


90 posted on 04/22/2012 4:22:19 PM PDT by Waryone (Remember your ABCS (anybody but commie socialists) = ABM (anybody but Mitt), ABO (anybody but Obama))
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To: Waryone

Gorbachev is living in the United States.


91 posted on 04/22/2012 4:32:30 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Pirsig289

Cool it newbie...


92 posted on 04/22/2012 4:57:23 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt. Nothing beats that!!!)
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To: Waryone
For years students in this country have been taught that no foreigner/non citizen could come here and have a child that could become president.

Such as PRESIDENT Chester A. Arthur? Strange how Arthur's many enemies NEVER pointed out how his parents were British citizens.

93 posted on 04/22/2012 5:29:52 PM PDT by PJ-Comix ("How To Overcome Writer's Block In Less Than An Hour" ---Available at Amazon)
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To: PJ-Comix
The Democrats did allege Chester Arthur was not eligible to the Office of the Vice President or the Office of the President. They failed to uncover the valid evidence of ineligibility when they failed to discover the date of naturalization of his father, and they relied instead on obviously erroneous evidence falsely alleging birth outside of the United States.

The Democrats raised the claims against a number of other Republicans claiming they too were ineligible to the Office of the President all the way from Wilson's election to the defeat of McCain. So, Democrats claiming a candidate was not a natural born citizen is quite common, including Hillary Clinton and her supporters’ claims that Obama was ineligible due to his not being a natural born citizen.

94 posted on 04/22/2012 5:39:01 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: PJ-Comix
The Democrats did allege Chester Arthur was not eligible to the Office of the Vice President or the Office of the President. They failed to uncover the valid evidence of ineligibility when they failed to discover the date of naturalization of his father, and they relied instead on obviously erroneous evidence falsely alleging birth outside of the United States.

The Democrats raised the claims against a number of other Republicans claiming they too were ineligible to the Office of the President all the way from Wilson's election to the defeat of McCain. So, Democrats claiming a candidate was not a natural born citizen is quite common, including Hillary Clinton and her supporters’ claims that Obama was ineligible due to his not being a natural born citizen.

95 posted on 04/22/2012 5:39:44 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Read the pamphlet by the Democrat attorney who erroneously claimed Chester Arthur was born in Canad, and missed the fact that Chester Arthur’s father was a British subject when Cheater Arthur was born with his father’s British citizenship in the United States and/or U.S. Native born U.S. Citizenship.

Hinman, A. P. How a British subject became president of the United States. New York; 1884.
http://openlibrary.org/books/OL6978891M/How_a_British_subject_became_president_of_the_United_States.


96 posted on 04/22/2012 5:48:33 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Waryone

My Fathers dise of the family came from England in 1721, My mothers side came from Ireland in 1760. I can trace bothsides back to the late 1500’s.


97 posted on 04/22/2012 6:04:34 PM PDT by Pirsig289
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To: bobby.223

I didn’t realize the mental capacity of a lot of peole on this site. I just asked one simple question and I get resarch and diatribes.....and yet NO ONE has shown me anything written in the Constitution that contradicts what I said. regardles of what anyone says, if it is not in the Constitution, IT DOESN’T COUNT.


98 posted on 04/22/2012 6:04:46 PM PDT by Pirsig289
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To: Pirsig289

So, now you argue that the Constitutions eligibility clause about a natural born citizen, Articles of Confederation, Declaration of Independence, state constitutions, colonial charters, and American common-law “DO NOT COUNT.” You wikll understand why the rest of us must perforce dismiss your statements as those of another willfully ignorant and dishonest crank.


99 posted on 04/22/2012 6:26:14 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Pirsig289

Ah yes,.....latecomers.


100 posted on 04/22/2012 6:28:44 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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