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Nonsense about Chelsea Clinton and the Lewinsky scandal
Washington Post ^ | 04/20/2012 | Erik Wemple

Posted on 04/22/2012 2:36:22 PM PDT by presidio9

One of the unfortunate realities of writing about television news is a wholesale dependence on anonymous sources. In conflict with their stated mission of bringing daylight to opaque American institutions, news networks generally don’t let their folks speak freely about their workplaces.

And so we don’t know much about the people who helped Michael Hastings construct a delicious little hit piece on Chelsea Clinton for BuzzFeed. “Network executives” lamented her wan presence in interviews. “One senior staffer” predicted she’d be “terrible” on the small screen. “One NBC news staffer” signaled that “there’s resentment” over Clinton’s hiring and the privileges that Hastings documents, again via nameless sources.

All juicy, crunchy, salty morsels. The Clinton-NBC team-up furnishes just so much stuff to play with, and Hastings in this piece delivers details about town cars, live shots and other 30 Rock titillatia. Good on Hastings for rounding up some outraged NBCers.

Yet too bad all these anonymous sources are also shallow and mean creatures. That’s the revelation that hits us when we arrive at this particular passage of the Hastings piece:

Almost everyone I spoke to for this story—from within NBC and at other networks as well—agree that that problem is that she won’t talk about the one thing that makes her undeniably compelling. How did it feel to be Chelsea Clinton during the Monica years?

Spoken like true TV newspeople: There’s nothing that a little invasion of privacy won’t remedy!

To be fair to an unfair argument, Hastings and his sources are saying that Clinton’s puff pieces on do-gooders don’t make for great TV; she’s not a real reporter, ,

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clowncarnepotism
I would have preferred to let the original story stand on its own, but it was immediately moved to "bloggers." Note to AdminMod: Sometime blogs CAN be news stories in their own right. This is obviously the case here, as it disturbed WaPo enough to merit editorializing.
1 posted on 04/22/2012 2:36:25 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Thanks for posting both articles - I enjoyed reading them.

The original piece was kinda dumb because the author assumed that Chelsea would be fascinating talking about Monica Lewinsky. And yet it’s clear from the entire article that she’s the most boring person in the world; something we here at FR knew for years. Why would she suddenly become interesting on this subject?

Like Caroline Kennedy, she’s been a sheltered little pet her whole life. That doesn’t make for strong, interesting personalities.


2 posted on 04/22/2012 2:47:40 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: presidio9

monica lewinsky is someone’s daughter, too. was she about chelsea’s age when her fame began?


3 posted on 04/22/2012 2:55:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (void where prohibited.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

And a disgusting specimen of a father, Dr. Bernard Lewinsky, was angry at Ken Starr, not the man who defiled his daughter and created the noun “Lewinsky.”


4 posted on 04/22/2012 2:59:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: miss marmelstein
Like Caroline Kennedy, she’s been a sheltered little pet her whole life. That doesn’t make for strong, interesting personalities.

Unlike Kennedy, however, the msm has been complicit in groooming Clinton for bigger things since she was a teenager. As we speak, my atrocious Congresswoman (Nita Lowey) has made it one of the worst-kept secrets that her retiremant plans are on hold while she keeps the seat warm. The TV gig is necessary for seasoning, but Chelsea will be in the House by the end of the decade. After that she will replace one of NYs two Democrat Senators. Here in NY, she can probably accomplish both by reading a dozen or so speeches (someone else wrote) off a teleprompter.

5 posted on 04/22/2012 2:59:53 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: doug from upland
Monica had already been defiled -- long before she met Billy Jeff. Remember the high school drama teacher and the pied a terre under the stage?
6 posted on 04/22/2012 3:08:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: the invisib1e hand
Monica Lewinski was almost a decade younger than Chelsea is now at the time of the infamous activities in the Oval Office. I like to repeat the phrase "articulated a cigar in the vagina of [Ms. Lewinski]" when commenting on this, because, while that was what happened in one of the encounters, the mainstream press couldn't bring themselves to repeat it. (I guess that is the Clinton Rule of Political Scandals - don't so something bad, do something unspeakably bad!) So, by not disclosing the harsh facts as they were, they helped Clinton's team build up a defense. He should have been pressured to resign in March of 1998, but he had enough time (and willing supplicants in the press) to manage a defense. Perhaps one of the lowest moments in our nation's history. But, not any of Chelsea's responsibility. She shouldn't be able to evade the questions, however.
7 posted on 04/22/2012 3:10:52 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: presidio9

I have an apartment in NYC so I know what you’re talking about! I moved my main residence to NJ primarily because Hillary barged into NY. Then I had to put up with Jon Corzine.

Nita Lowey is a complete moron! She deserves whatever is coming to her. I hope she has to put her retirement plans on hold until Chelsea gets her first facelift.

My point about Caroline is that she, too, is an enormously dull individual. For some reason the MSM decided to throw her under the bus when she demanded to be appointed a NY senator.

I’m also not a fan of that Bush girl (Jenna?) who has a tv gig.


8 posted on 04/22/2012 3:11:17 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: presidio9
Almost everyone I spoke to for this story—from within NBC and at other networks as well—agree that that problem is that she won’t talk about the one thing that makes her undeniably compelling. How did it feel to be Chelsea Clinton during the Monica years?

I'd think the most compelling question would be, "Who's yer daddy?"

9 posted on 04/22/2012 3:11:42 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: presidio9
Here in NY, she can probably accomplish both by reading a dozen or so speeches (someone else wrote) off a teleprompter.

Hell, it worked for that Kenyan dipsh*t in Illinois, eh?
10 posted on 04/22/2012 3:15:57 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
who said anything about 'chelsea's responsibility?'

you know what? I'm probably the only American alive at that time who refuses to be instructed in the sick details of that episode from hell.

11 posted on 04/22/2012 3:18:36 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: presidio9
I wholeheartedly share in the sentiments you've expressed. There are many instances in which there were articles I've had to pass up on posting as a result of similar experiences regarding content category.

BTW: the article you've linked to seems to have been removed from being categorized under the 'blogging' label.

12 posted on 04/22/2012 3:25:20 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:The Infestation of Washington, DC Ends When the Cockroach- in-Chief is Evicted in 2013)
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To: miss marmelstein
My point about Caroline is that she, too, is an enormously dull individual. For some reason the MSM decided to throw her under the bus when she demanded to be appointed a NY senator.

Initially, the msms LIKED the idea of another useless Senator Kennedy. The closed ranks and defended her enthusiastically. They were forced to give up on their own stupidity when it came out that Kennedy hadn't even bothered to VOTE in over half the elections of her adult lifetime. You can bet your house that Chelsea hasn't missed a voting booth since she got home from Oxford.

13 posted on 04/22/2012 3:29:07 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
Chelsea will be in the House by the end of the decade.
Don't bet on it. Caroline Kennedy tried and failed miserably when it became apparent she was dumb as a box of hammers.
14 posted on 04/22/2012 3:30:31 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: presidio9

Hah! I couldn’t remember all the details of Little Miss Kennedy’s major flop in US politics. Thanks for reminding me!


15 posted on 04/22/2012 3:30:54 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: lbryce
BTW: the article you've linked to seems to have been removed from being categorized under the 'blogging' label.

In my 13 years here on FR, that would be the first time I've ever witnessed a mod admitting it had made a mistake.

16 posted on 04/22/2012 3:31:04 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: oh8eleven

That’s the whole reason behind Chelsea’s TV gig at NBC. Caroline Kennedy’s Senate bid fell apart when she couldn’t muster a single coherent response to softball questions from a friendly interviewer. Sorta like Uncle Teddy’s infamous 1980 meltdown with Roger Mudd. And at least Teddy had an excuse—he was probably loaded at the time.

Chelsea’s stint with NBC News is aimed at giving her the “media skills” required to run for public office. But she’s as dull as dishwater and about as bright as a broken lightbulb. Unfortunately, she’ll win election in New York; in a competitive state, she’d get creamed.

One more note: after Chelsea’s stint at NBC, she will quietly divorce her layabout husband. Not exactly the kind of spouse she needs in politics, and he’s bound to get caught in a sex or drinking scandal in the near future. Hell. the Clintons will probably engineer the episode just to get rid of him.


17 posted on 04/22/2012 3:38:20 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: the invisib1e hand

There is a possibility she was relieved that her daddy had his eye on some other young girl. We know big daddy Bill was a big sleazy pervert but we don’t know how big and sleazy.


18 posted on 04/22/2012 3:39:17 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
Chelsea’s stint with NBC News is aimed at giving her the “media skills” required to run for public office.
Well, if that was the "aim", she's waaaay off target.
My dirty socks have more character and personality.
19 posted on 04/22/2012 3:43:04 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: doug from upland
... and created the noun "Lewinsky,"

It's a verb.

20 posted on 04/22/2012 4:41:54 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6; doug from upland

No, Doug is correct. “Lewinsky” is a noun.
“I hear she gives a good Lewinsky.”


21 posted on 04/22/2012 4:53:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
"Lewinsky" is a noun already.

I was thinking about "getting Lewinskied."

Or, "I wish I could get my wife to Lewinsky me."

22 posted on 04/22/2012 4:58:59 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

As gross as it was re-living it, the full details of the account sheds some light on just what a creep the man is. The only possible reason for such behavior is to make the young woman feel degraded, and make sure both of you know that you are degrading her and she is accepting it.


23 posted on 04/22/2012 5:10:41 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
my atrocious Congresswoman (Nita Lowey) has made it one of the worst-kept secrets that her retiremant plans are on hold while she keeps the seat warm.

Raising the question: what the heck do the Clintons have on Lowey?

Lowey, people may recall, was getting ready to jump into the fight for Daniel Patrick Moynihan's seat ... then had a rather unpleasant "conversation" with some of Hillary!'s thugs, er, senior advisors. Lowey made it pretty clear that she'd been directed, under threat of something (never revealed) to stay the heck out of Hillary!'s way.

I can't imagine her, after that, deciding to put off retirement to keep a seat warm for Chelsea Clinton. Unless she knows the Clinton's would reveal something devastating about here if she didn't.
24 posted on 04/22/2012 5:19:41 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: HIDEK6

You DO know that you are using the word as a verb in both cases, right?


25 posted on 04/22/2012 5:22:59 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
In my 13 years here on FR, that would be the first time I've ever witnessed a mod admitting it had made a mistake.

I'm with you, I totally understand where you're coming from as expressed in my original post. We post stuff, want it to be as viewed, commented upon by as many FReepers as possible, feel frustrated when they get re-assigned, marginalized.

But I don't think it's a matter of the mods doing anything other than their job.

You've got to realize the incredible pressure these guys are under. Hundreds, thousands of posts per minute coming at them at lightning speed, eyes peeled for that one ugly troll making sure does not get through. It's not easy keeping watch on multiple screens changing every second, to keep things running without incident.

They've got to make snap decisions on the fly, be fast on their feet, most of the posts are in categories that are ambiguous at best, subjective for sure, gotta make snap, interpretive decisions in an instant.

I don't think it's about admitting mistakes as much having had the luxury of time to review it in the proper perspective to have it re-assigned.

Sure, like every one else, I get upset, frustrated, when posts I make are relegated to where it's not going to be as readily seen as I'd like, but that's the way it has to be. Otherwise, FR would never work without the hard work, input, of the mods.

26 posted on 04/22/2012 5:46:22 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:The Infestation of Washington, DC Ends When the Cockroach- in-Chief is Evicted in 2013)
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To: lbryce

There’s something on your nose Lee.


27 posted on 04/22/2012 6:08:51 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

LOL. You’re a clever one. Let me go to the bathroom and wipe it off. :-)


28 posted on 04/22/2012 6:23:11 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce; presidio9
(noun) - Your post is a great Lewinsky, Lee.

(verb) - You sure Lewinsky like a pro, Lee.

Gee, it may just be an action noun, after all.

29 posted on 04/22/2012 6:25:30 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: texas booster

My brother-in-law is a FR mod, is especially critical of my posts, never getting over marrying his sister.


30 posted on 04/22/2012 6:34:00 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce; texas booster

BTW, your new nickname comes from how I read your screen name.

There's a Lee who knew a thing or two about Lewinskys and Lewinskying no doubt. And brown nosing for that matter.

31 posted on 04/22/2012 6:44:08 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Please. Don’t hold anything back. I deserve the abuse. That was a nauseating bit of brown-nosing. Unforgivable.


32 posted on 04/22/2012 6:54:02 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce
Gotta be careful, in that case.

BIL’s bring the beer for holidays, and you don't want him to supply Falstaff ...

33 posted on 04/22/2012 7:21:22 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Like Caroline Kennedy, she’s been a sheltered little pet her whole life.

So did her mommy, when you think about it .... until she went away to Wellesley and confronted the rude and demanding LUGs ....

But we'll have to wait for Mommy's story on that one.

34 posted on 04/22/2012 10:35:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: oh8eleven
My dirty socks have more character and personality.

Can they stand up forthemselves in a fair fight with your underwear?

;D

35 posted on 04/22/2012 10:39:17 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Can they stand up forthemselves in a fair fight with your underwear?
Underwear has a decided advantage ... a leg up, if you will.
36 posted on 04/23/2012 5:40:32 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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