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Posted on 04/22/2012 4:59:05 PM PDT by mylife
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Wow. a $99 lower
There’s a KelTec Owners Group forum if you would like to learn anything about any of KelTec’s stuff:
I’ve got a P11. Lousy trigger but a great compact high capacity 9mm self defense gun.
I hear the Rugers are in demand as well.
Hey Clint, I found a great deal here on the new XD:
Looks like they have a bunch of handguns and free shipping to FFL.
A second AR? WOW!
Yes, the LC9 is rare as hens teeth right now.
99 buck lowers here:
But I bought mine from my FFL guy. He is selling them now for 109.
Enjoying the fine weather.
Whats up with you?
good seein ya!
They sure are reasonable for the weight. Every have a jam?
I really like mine.
I am glad I got it when the gittin was good.
I think I had one or two jams when I was breaking in some new 12-round mags.
The only real problem I had with it is the trigger spring popping out of it’s groove in the trigger bar. Sent it to KelTec and they installed a complete new trigger assembly.
Being a DAO with no safety (like the LCR) the trigger kind of sucks. But it’s accurate enough at self defense ranges and packs 13 rounds in a small package. Mine is my everyday carry (except weekends when I often carry my CZ82).
I’ve got about 1000 rounds through mine now. The P11 is not a range gun. It’s a self defense gun.
Check out the Kahr CM9 and the new S&W Shield.
Both are about 16 - 17 oz single stacks.
We haven’t even finished breaking in the one I bought for my wife. I think we’ve only put about 100 to 150 rounds through it.
We’ve both been so busy with crap lately that I don’t think either of us has been to the range in almost two months.
I’m in the same boat.
Front sight tool?
Did you run out of bullets?
Never had a DAO Semi Auto before. Does it chamber a round when you put a new mag in? Guess I better got look at one before I buy one...
Dangit!! I didn’t know that. :-(
Hey the TCU rifle team won again this year. With an all female team in a coed sport!!!
Same old - same old, mostly.
Put one of these in my garage.
Thanks for the tip.
It works like any semi-auto. It chambers a round when you release the slide forward.
The DA trigger makes for a harder and longer trigger pull (for safety reasons). It’s in the 8-10 lb range. About the same as shooting a revolver in double action.
Kahr PM9 is on my list too. But at 16 ounces it’s almost as large as the G26/27 too.
I’m just trying to reduce. The Kimber Solo CDP is so pretty I may have to sacrifice.
You need to clarify that felons are excluded.
That caller sure seemed to like that S&W Shield.
That’s what I thought. I still don’t get it. Longer trigger pull equals “double action” when it doesn’t chamber another round? I guess it’s like a revolver when pulling the trigger it pulls the hammer back. Guess I get it now. Thanks...
So can you pull the hammer back on the Ruger LCP?
Cool little pocket pistol. Nice looking finish on it.
But yeah, it is kinda pricey.
No, the Ruger LCP is also double action only.
No different than a G. Even an ounce heavier. And it’s single stacked?
I’m newly convinced single stacked is the way to go, when do you need more than 7 rounds if you’re not an LEO and what civilians carry a back up magazine? I know that’s against Tom’s rules but what civilian carries a full rig?
7 should be enough, and you can always carry another mag
A double-action, also known as double action only (DAO) to prevent confusion with DA/SA designs, is similar to a DA revolver trigger mechanism. The trigger both cocks and releases the hammer. However there is no single action function. A good example of this action is the Sig Sauer DAK trigger. For semi-automatic pistols with a traditional hammer (that employ only the double action function of the trigger), the hammer will return to its decocked position after each shot. Subsequent shots require the double action trigger firing sequence. For striker-fired pistols such as the Taurus 24/7, the striker will remain in the rest position through the entire reloading cycle. This term applies mostly to semi-automatic handguns; however, the term can also apply to some revolvers such as the Smith & Wesson Centennial, the Type 26 Revolver, and the Enfield No. 2 Mk I revolvers, in which there is no external hammer spur. Glock and Kahr semi-automatic pistols are not DA (or DAO) pistols because the striker is “cocked” to an intermediate position by the operation of the slide and they cannot be re-activated by pulling the trigger a second time.
A double-action/single-action (DA/SA) firearm combines the features of both mechanisms. Often called traditional double action, these terms apply almost exclusively to semi-automatic handguns. The function of this trigger mechanism is identical to a DA revolver. However, the firing mechanism automatically cocks the hammer or striker after the gun is fired. This mechanism will cock and release the hammer when the hammer is in the down position, but, on each subsequent shot, the trigger will function as a single action. The Mateba Autorevolver is a semi-automatic revolver that functions on a DA/SA system. The Beretta 92 is a good example of a DA/SA semi-automatic pistol. On many DA/SA pistols (including the Beretta), there is the option to cock the hammer before the first shot is fired. This removes the heavy pull of the double-action. Also, there is often a de-cocker to return the pistol to double-action.
A second distinct type is that used by the majority of double-action revolvers, where the weapon can be fired in either double-action mode by pulling the trigger, or single-action mode by cocking the hammer manually before firing. This is distinct from double-action only, since the weapon does not have to be fired in double-action mode, for example, the Colt Python.
(Above are Wikipedia definitions.)
Thanks! Pricey! Does it have a Crimson Trace option?
When I’m wearing my shoulder holster, I carry 12 + 1 in the gun and a spare 12-round mag.
I’ve never heard anyone involved in a gun fight complain that they had too much ammo.
That cleans things up nicely, thank you. The term shouldn’t be different from revolvers to semi-autos IMHO....
I don’t think so.
Even if the dispatcher told zimmerman “not to follow” martin, the fact is that the dispatcher has no authority to make commands.
Not complaining. My G27 with extended mag is 12+1 also. It’s heavy, 29 ounces, and not comfortable. That’s my point. If you carry all the time good for you, but many won’t carry 24/7 unless they are LEO.
I’ve come to the conclusion a single stack .380 10 ounce that I will put in my back pocket will protect me better than nothing than my full size sub compact i may pass on wearing.
Wish I had your options in Texas.
Yeah, you can only have too much ammo if you’re swimming or on fire. Or so I’ve heard.
I agree with you there. Single stacks are easier to conceal. And anything is better than nothing.
I, too, have considered a Ruger LCP or the KelTec equal P3AT for “pocket carry”. With the cost of .380 ammo, and since we own other 9MMs, I’ve been a little reluctant to get into the caliber.
Thanks to all who stopped by.
Have a great week folks.
LCP is nice to have for those times when you’re just wearing shorts and a T-shirt. If you’re wearing regular street clothes, the LC9, small Kahrs, and the M&P Shield are not difficult at all to conceal.