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We are what we support: Actions, not labels, define our politics
Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | April 22, 2012 | J.D. Ellis

Posted on 04/22/2012 5:16:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

J.D. Ellis,
Vice Presidential Nominee,
America's Party

Conservative voters don't vote for liberal politicians. Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are liberal politicians. As Mr. Hoefling has said many times, Republicans may be conservatives, or they may support Mitt Romney--but they may not do both.

Principled patriotic American voters don't vote for candidates who are opposed to America's foundational principles. Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney hold a number of positions that are directly opposed to America's foundational principles. Republicans may be principled patriotic Americans, or they may support Mitt Romney--they may not do both.

Pro-life voters don't vote for pro-abortion candidates. Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are pro-abortion candidates. Republicans may be pro-life, or they may support Mitt Romney--they may not do both.

With the impending Republican nomination of Mitt Romney for president, it is becoming increasingly difficult to deny that patriotic, pro-life conservatives are no longer allowed any real voice in the Republican Party. But patriotic, pro-life, conservative Republicans are welcome in America's Party.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/affiliate.html


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: actions; jdellis; principle; tomhoefling

1 posted on 04/22/2012 5:16:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Steve Schulin; BlackElk; Gelato; wagglebee

Don’t let the political chameleon, Mitt Romney, a man who is constantly redefining himself to fit what he thinks is politically expedient, define YOU.


2 posted on 04/22/2012 5:20:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Conservatives should focus their passions on the downballot races. There are several conservatives states featuring primaries between establishment hacks and grass roots conservatives. Here’s a list of candidates who are worthy of their support:

Richard Mourdock- Indiana
Don Stenberg- Nebraska
Josh Mandel- Ohio
Ted Cruz- Texas
Dan Liljenquist- Utah


3 posted on 04/22/2012 5:23:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: EternalVigilance
I see you are still determined to reelect the obamass.
Follow this path and the next four years of tyranny will be on your doorstep.
4 posted on 04/22/2012 5:33:44 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: EternalVigilance
Loud and clear....

ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the only message that we should be putting out right now. The choice is Romney or Obama. No one else is going to get our of single digits in a national election. If you are talking about any other choice you really need a reality check. Or better yet put up some $$$. I'm needing a few new toys.

5 posted on 04/22/2012 5:38:23 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: EternalVigilance

That’s right folks. Ignore 1992 and the “Perot effect’ that gave us Billy Jeff.

Follow this advice at everyone’s peril.


6 posted on 04/22/2012 5:39:13 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Vote for Romney at YOUR peril. He’s left of Bubba. He’s pro gay marriage, he appoints liberal judges, he’s pro-abortion, end of story.


7 posted on 04/22/2012 5:45:59 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Patriotic Americans don't associate with liberals. Both liberal family and liberal friends are liberals. As I see my hands has said many times, Americans may be patriotic or they may associate with liberal family and friends, but they may not be/do both.



Principled American patriots don't cavort with liberals who are opposed to America's foundational principles. Both liberal family and friends hold a number of positions that are directly opposed to America's foundational principles. American patriots may be principled, or they may cavort with liberal family and friends, but they may not be/do both.



Pro life Americans don't provide succor to pro abortion death cultists. Both liberal family and friends are pro abortion death cultists. Americans may be pro life or they may provide succor to liberal family and friends, but they may not be/do both.


8 posted on 04/22/2012 5:52:16 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: Nifster

Perot was a pro-abort like Romney. I don’t support politicians who think it’s okay to kill babies.


9 posted on 04/22/2012 5:55:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: oldenuff2no
The choice is Romney or Obama.

A bullet to the brain, or a bullet to the heart.

No thanks.

10 posted on 04/22/2012 5:57:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: oldenuff2no
Or better yet put up some $$$. I'm needing a few new toys.

What are you talking about?

11 posted on 04/22/2012 5:58:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: oldenuff2no

Yeah, vote for Mitt. He’ll lose, but your vote will encourage him to run again in 2016!
Let’s give him a strong showing so he befouls the next race too. And so that nothing ever changes for the better.


12 posted on 04/22/2012 5:58:34 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: Lady Lucky
This quote just has to be on this thread:

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

-- Winston Churchill


13 posted on 04/22/2012 6:00:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: oldenuff2no
I see you are still determined to reelect the obamass.

Your party has already done that, barring a mass uprising by conservatives to raise up a principled choice.

14 posted on 04/22/2012 6:02:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: Lady Lucky

and Obama is so much more conservative...feh.


15 posted on 04/22/2012 6:03:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: EternalVigilance

I did not suggest ‘support’. I merely point out that it is IMPERATIVE that Obama NOT have a second term.


16 posted on 04/22/2012 6:04:54 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

There is at least one thing that I can think of that is infinitely more scary than a second Obama term: A conservative movement which has completely abandoned all principle.


17 posted on 04/22/2012 6:06:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: oldenuff2no

Take your anybody but Obama for yourself.

I will not support Romney.

The ABO will give Romney a blank check.

Maybe when you get it; you will come off of your high horse.

I am doing a write in. To heck with helping Romney and his liberal wing party. Who cares about the people! GOP DNC Goldman banks Foxnews. Once the GOP destroys the Tea Party (us), we have no power.


18 posted on 04/22/2012 6:24:57 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Christie at the beach
"Impress upon children the truth that the exercise of the elective franchise is a social duty of as solemn a nature as man can be called to perform; that a man may not innocently trifle with his vote; that every elector is a trustee as well for others as himself and that every measure he supports has an important bearing on the interests of others as well as on his own. "

-- Daniel Webster


19 posted on 04/22/2012 6:26:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: Christie at the beach
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”

-- John Quincy Adams


20 posted on 04/22/2012 6:28:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: EternalVigilance

You cannot be a conservative if you are voting for socialists


21 posted on 04/22/2012 6:34:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

Sounds exactly right to me. It’s just common sense.


22 posted on 04/22/2012 6:37:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: oldenuff2no

You are correct... we should only allow pro-Romney goose stepping articles since we are all socialists now.

please.


23 posted on 04/22/2012 6:46:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Nifster

Romney’s not conservative at all, so what are you doing?
Deny Romney your vote in November, and maybe you won’t have to vote for him in 2016.
There is no hope for this country if people won’t even take a stand at the ballot box.
Bend over and vote for Romney, you’ll still get Obama.


24 posted on 04/22/2012 6:48:16 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: GeronL
"If, to please the people, we offer what we ourselves disprove, how can we afterwards defend our work? Let us raise a standard to which the wise and the honest can repair. The event is in the hand of God."

-- George Washington

SelfGovernment.US


25 posted on 04/22/2012 7:07:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney's role, if elected, is to consolidate Obama's socialist gains.)
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To: GeronL
In any engagement the best thing that one can do is to get his enemy to split his forces. This tactic is as old as organized conflict and is exactly what is happening here.
The only candidate that has any possibility of defeating Obama is Romney. By insisting that the right, Republicans, Conservatives, and independents vote for anyone else is a transparent effort to reelect Obama.
Split the right and reelect Obama. That is exactly your game. Wars are never won without losses and no one ever gets everything they want out of it. Wars are fought to defeat and enemy and Obama is the enemy of a free America.
26 posted on 04/22/2012 7:43:13 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

Sorry, I do not support or vote for leftwing socialists like Romney.

By getting “the right” to vote for liberal progressive Romney, they have already DEFEATED them.


27 posted on 04/22/2012 9:55:23 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Lady Lucky

If O is reelected you can DEPEND on NOT being able to vote in 2016. Think Chavez folks....


28 posted on 04/22/2012 10:27:00 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
If O is reelected you can DEPEND on NOT being able to vote in 2016. Think Chavez folks....

That is so unrealistic. You do know better, don't you?

29 posted on 04/23/2012 6:26:42 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: Nifster

You said -I did not suggest ‘support’. I merely point out that it is IMPERATIVE that Obama NOT have a second term.

I agree, it is VERY imperative. And, hand in hand with that is, IT IS IMPERATIVE to elect someone who is not a carbon copy of Obama, just to get rid of Obama.


30 posted on 04/23/2012 8:34:55 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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31 posted on 04/23/2012 10:08:21 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Lady Lucky

Nope I don’t know better. With all that his current four years has brought in terms of executive orders and agency fiats as well as czars and other such nonsense.... no I have NO confidence that there will be elections in 2016. The manufactured crises that this group has come up with the force their way is beyond belief. I expect only larger such efforts if they are reelected


32 posted on 04/23/2012 11:10:28 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lady Lucky

“One Saturday last fall, President Obama interrupted a White House strategy meeting to raise an issue not on the agenda. He declared, aides recalled, that the administration needed to more aggressively use executive power to govern in the face of Congressional obstructionism. snip Aides say many more such moves are coming. Not just a short-term shift in governing style and a re-election strategy, Mr. Obama’s increasingly assertive use of executive action could foreshadow pitched battles over the separation of powers in his second term, should he win and Republicans consolidate their power in Congress.”

One of the many reasons why I do not know better


33 posted on 04/23/2012 11:14:15 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

If you really, truly thought elections might be suspended by Obama (or whatever), you wouldn’t be sitting there typing.
I hope.


34 posted on 04/23/2012 1:34:18 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: Nifster; oldenuff2no; Lady Lucky; fieldmarshaldj; EternalVigilance
Nifster and oldnuff2no:

Neither Obama nor Romney are anything resembling conservative. You may prefer to delude yourself that you can believe Romney's Wall Street lavishly funded pack of campaign lies for 2012. Don't kid yourselves. Romney is simply the second political generation of a verrrrry bad and anti-conservative family that favors abortion, gay everything, socialized medicine with the ability to cut off medical care to folks whose crime is to be old or sick, and is obsessed with moving the GOP sharply leftward. You may want to reward Slick Willard for the mountain of money and slanderous/libelous campaign attacks on every conservative opponent, funded by his fellow corrupt megabucks buddies. I won't.

35 posted on 04/23/2012 1:56:14 PM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: oldenuff2no

Is not the left divided between the Obozo left and the Romney left. By your attempt at logic, that is progress, no?


36 posted on 04/23/2012 2:00:14 PM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: BlackElk

hope you are planning to load up on food and ammo.....


37 posted on 04/23/2012 2:09:19 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: BlackElk
If the left is divided that is great.
38 posted on 04/23/2012 2:41:27 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Nifster

Hasn’t everyone?


39 posted on 04/24/2012 4:20:48 PM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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