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Constitution Party to run Virgil Goode for president
Roanoke.com ^ | 4-22-12 | Arielle Retting

Posted on 04/22/2012 8:27:52 PM PDT by Mozilla

Former U.S. Rep. Virgil Goode of Rocky Mount secured the Constitution Party's nomination for president at the party's convention Saturday in Nashville, Tenn.

Goode was one of six candidates vying for the spot. He won on the first round of balloting with 203 votes, with 202 votes needed to receive the nomination.

Goode served 24 years in the Virginia Senate — making headlines when he helped parlay a power-sharing agreement between Democrats and Republicans after the 1995 elections left it evenly split. He was elected to Congress in 1996, succeeding L.F. Payne. Goode left the Democratic Party to become an independent before the 2000 election and then joined the Republican Party ahead of the 2002 election. Goode was unseated in 2008 by Democrat Tom Perriello.

Goode is the first presidential nominee for the Constitution Party to hold a federally elected office, said Mitch Turner, chairman of the Constitution Party of Virginia. Goode said he plans to attract voters such as Democrats who are dissatisfied with President Barack Obama and Republicans who don't align with presumptive nominee Mitt Romney's policy positions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; constitutionparty; goode; virgilgoode
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To: SumProVita

No problem. I just can’t support Romney. In my mind he is the worst kind of politician in that he has no core principles. I can’t in good conscience support someone whose record is pro-abortion, pro-global warming, pro-socialized healthcare, pro-gun control, etc. Frankly, I’m completely disgusted every time I see him.

I’m with Newt until the end...if he isn’t on the ticket, its 3rd party for me.


51 posted on 04/23/2012 6:30:58 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: kreitzer
Conservatives are better in the future to make allies with Republicans when we can, but as members of a different party.

Exactly. Migrating to the Constitution Party doesn't mean not ever voting for a GOPer again. There are plenty of down-ticket races involving conservative candidates.

52 posted on 04/23/2012 6:31:15 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: SumProVita

If someone’s words and actions don’t line up, I always believe the actions. It’s just common sense.


53 posted on 04/23/2012 6:31:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: ScottinVA

A third-party option is the ONLY tool available to drive home to the GOP-e, we conservatives aren’t going to dance to their tune yet again.

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I disagree. I think a 3rd party at this juncture will result in disaster. It would certainly let the GOP know that we won’t dance....but it would kill all the music as well.

I’ll drive home the message to the GOP.....from the ground up, starting at my local level. It takes work and commitment....but WILL eventually reap good results.

This election is too important to allow Obama another win. PERIOD!


54 posted on 04/23/2012 6:33:04 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Mozilla
Goode is one of those who saw up close the destruction of America by being in both political parties and left them.

That may be. But I have to wonder how much he participated in that destruction.

55 posted on 04/23/2012 6:34:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: goseminoles

Virgil Goode doesn’t have a chance because people will only vote for the R or D candidate and that is the current problem since both political parties are failing us. And because he doesn’t have a chance wouldn’t mean that I won’t vote for him. I need a choice since I will not vote Romney. And he is the best one on the board.


56 posted on 04/23/2012 6:34:47 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

I agree. Obama’s actions are HORRENDOUS! In a 2nd term, he will not hold back in exercising his extremely radical agenda.


57 posted on 04/23/2012 6:36:21 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
I disagree. I think a 3rd party at this juncture will result in disaster.

I get your point, but the disaster has already been foisted upon us. Romney will not win in November... and the GOP-e is fine with that. Their sights were set on holding the House and making it close in the Senate.

Conservatives can either surf along with the GOP's "get-along gang" yet one more time and line up behind a statist, pro-homosexual, enviro-whacko, gun-grabbing liberal who's going to be ripped to shreds by the Obama machine... or finally take the initiative and move on.

I'll stay with GOP candidates down-ticket... but Virgil Goode gets my Presidential vote.

58 posted on 04/23/2012 6:41:34 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: vmivol00

I understand your frustration because I also dislike Romney as a candidate. However, I think you are making a grave mistake.


59 posted on 04/23/2012 6:41:57 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
I disagree. I think a 3rd party at this juncture will result in disaster.

The disaster has already occurred. The formerly grand old party has chosen the most liberal governor in the history of the republic, and the biggest liar in American politics, as its standard-bearer.

If you won't face that fact you're not dealing in reality.

Those who, out of fear, make the choice to be Romney Republicans, are simply compounding the disaster, and making it far less likely that anything can be done to fix the mess that Republicans and the Democrats have made of things.

For the record, I'm not a supporter of Virgil Goode or the Constitution Party.

60 posted on 04/23/2012 6:42:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: EternalVigilance

Well I agree that he spent a long time in politics. But at this point both parties are having problems. So I believe Goode realized that both parties were not doing what people wanted. And he left the GOP after losing his 2008 re-election. In fact, I wonder if he stayed a republican a while just so he could win elections because people don’t vote for independents or 3rd party people for congress for now unless your name is Joe Lieberman, who in my opinion is a fake independent since he still follows Harry Reid’s orders.


61 posted on 04/23/2012 6:44:57 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Mozilla
I need a choice since I will not vote Romney. And he is the best one on the board.

I completely agree. Of course, Goode isn't going to be elected -- neither is Romney -- but the greater issue here is a chance for conservatives to migrate to a party that better aligns with their ideology. The GOP simply isn't getting it done anymore, and nothing more typifies that failure than the nomination of Mitt Romney.

I don't despise Romney to the level that I despise Obama, but I simply don't subscribe to Romney's pro-homo, enviro-whacko, anti-gun, health-care usurping leanings.

62 posted on 04/23/2012 6:48:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: SumProVita

The GOP made the gravest of mistakes by shoving Romney in our faces. I for one refuse to own it.


63 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: EternalVigilance

If you won’t face that fact you’re not dealing in reality.

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I disagree. I have always been a principled realist. I have participated in many elections. I have taught American (and British) history. I am equally frustrated but I believe that experience and wisdom inform my judgment...not fear.

I am also convinced that even more of our citizens need to repent and ask our Father in heaven to heal this nation.


64 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:22 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Mozilla

Virgil I. “Gus” Grissom would be able to fulfill Goode’s duties just as well.


65 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:59 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: ScottinVA
here is a chance for conservatives to migrate to a party that better aligns with their ideology.

The CP doesn't align with my conservative ideology.

66 posted on 04/23/2012 6:53:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: SumProVita
I agree. Obama’s actions are HORRENDOUS! In a 2nd term, he will not hold back in exercising his extremely radical agenda.

The GOP has done a horrendous job of standing up to him. Mitch McConnell's abjectly pathetic inability to put sufficient pressure on GOP senators and assemble a fight against the repeal of DADT and the New START ratification ripped it for me with the GOP. Add to that the weakness shown by John "We Have A Deal" Boehner in the budget negotiations... what exactly is the point?

67 posted on 04/23/2012 6:57:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: ScottinVA

YES, the GOP has made a huge mistake with this....but I will not! I will vote to defeat Obama...and work hard at the local level to reform the GOP.

I am also aware that politics without Divine Providence and intervention is worthless.

Praying and fasting for our nation is a major part of this.

;-)


68 posted on 04/23/2012 6:58:26 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: EternalVigilance
The CP doesn't align with my conservative ideology.

OK... does the Romney-nominating GOP align with it?

69 posted on 04/23/2012 6:59:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: SumProVita
I am equally frustrated but I believe that experience and wisdom inform my judgment...not fear.

Then why is it that the only talking point you have is fear?

I fear a nation full of "conservatives" who have no principles left that they won't compromise infinitely more than I fear a second Obama term.

We've survived wicked, stupid politicians before in America, but the abandonment of all principle by the only group of people that represent any hope for the future of this free republic can only lead to the sort of political environment that produced Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

It is the compromise of principle that led to Obama. You won't lead us away from what Obama represents by more compromise. The idea that you might is utter nonsense, frankly. It denies all reason and logic.

70 posted on 04/23/2012 7:02:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Another question, a practical one: How do they intend to get on the ballot in California? Last time I checked the CP had about three hundred registered voters there.”

Well I am not sure. I am quiet aware that in 2008. they did not make the ballot on all 50 states. They did make it in my state, but I have to wonder if they won’t pick up more states. Would be a shame if they didn’t make it in California but it is a leftist state for the most part so I am sure they would have a harder time than in a Conservative state.

However, I am also aware they were aligned with the American Independent Party of California and had a falling out and got taken to court to resolve the issues.

In 1992, a number of independent state parties united to form the U.S. Taxpayers Party. In 1999, at its national convention for the 2000 elections, convention delegates chose to change the party name to the “Constitution Party,” to better reflect the party’s core beliefs stated in the U.S. Constitution. It is constitutionalist, which means that they support limited government as outlined in the Constitution.

It is the largest 3rd party out there. It rivals the libertarian party in terms of which is larger in voter registration.

There are other right-wing parties that have lesser resources according wikipedia, which it claims are associated with Conservatism including both Old Right and New Right tendencies.

They are the:
America First Party
Christian Liberty Party
America’s Party
American Party
Independent American Party

But they will have a harder time getting on a ballot than the CP.


71 posted on 04/23/2012 7:05:33 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: SumProVita

“YES, the GOP has made a huge mistake with this....but I will not! I will vote to defeat Obama..and work hard at the local level to reform the GOP.”

Well I hope to work hard at a local level myself to help support the best conservative in my area as well as in my state. But I needed a good option for president and this one is the best one out there. I’d rather support a conservative if Romney is to be nominated than back stabbing Romney.


72 posted on 04/23/2012 7:14:38 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

I assure you that it is not fear. It is a firm desire for that peace and freedom that allow us to function well. Quite simple.

“It is the compromise of principle that led to Obama.”

On the part of whom?

There were many factors that led to the election of Obama, including those who refused to “compromise” their political principles by voting for McCain.

Overall, it is simply a result of the fact that our nation began to ignore God. The same results have been evident in other nations throughout history.

“Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” ... Alexander Solzhenitsyn


73 posted on 04/23/2012 7:15:41 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ScottinVA

“Exactly. Migrating to the Constitution Party doesn’t mean not ever voting for a GOPer again. There are plenty of down-ticket races involving conservative candidates.”

Right. That’s the same way I see it.


74 posted on 04/23/2012 7:16:27 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: SumProVita

Well thought out; and well said.


75 posted on 04/23/2012 7:17:43 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Mozilla

I respect your free choice...though I believe it to be a grave mistake.


76 posted on 04/23/2012 7:19:27 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ScottinVA
OK... does the Romney-nominating GOP align with it?

Not even close.

77 posted on 04/23/2012 7:28:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: ScottinVA

“I completely agree. Of course, Goode isn’t going to be elected — neither is Romney — but the greater issue here is a chance for conservatives to migrate to a party that better aligns with their ideology. The GOP simply isn’t getting it done anymore, and nothing more typifies that failure than the nomination of Mitt Romney.

I don’t despise Romney to the level that I despise Obama, but I simply don’t subscribe to Romney’s pro-homo, enviro-whacko, anti-gun, health-care usurping leanings.”

I would have much rather have supported tea party conservative nominee for the republican party, but since it is not happening then the Conservative Party is a good option.

The two party system is failing us because they won’t listen. Romney is not a real opposition to Obama. And to go along with him would go against my principals.

So I agree that Conservatives need to migrate to a new party because the GOP is not only refusing to listen to us but actively attacking, undermining and corrupting the conservative agenda and candidates.


78 posted on 04/23/2012 7:30:54 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: SumProVita

Quit fooling yourself. Support for Mitt Romney is the abandonment of every core principle of this republic, and of conservatism.


79 posted on 04/23/2012 7:33:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: Mozilla

Amen... couldn’t have said it better.

The GOP-e regards the Tea Party as little more than an annoyance to be ignored until election time. These folks are wayyyy too restive to be relegated to the GOP-e’s shut-up-until-we-need-you approach.


80 posted on 04/23/2012 7:36:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Not even close.

Any particular one in mind?

81 posted on 04/23/2012 7:37:18 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: ScottinVA

I meant Constitution Party but wrote Conservative Party, which is exactly what we need. LOL.


82 posted on 04/23/2012 7:38:19 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: SumProVita

I don’t play the foolish lesser of two evils game. I don’t support evil, period.

And make no mistake, Obama and Romney are both evil men.

But if I was that foolish I would have to say that between Romney and Obama, Obama is the lesser evil, for the simple reason that a wolf in wolve’s clothing is far less dangerous to the sheep than a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

So, of course, I choose neither of them.


83 posted on 04/23/2012 7:39:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: Mozilla

SO true!!!


84 posted on 04/23/2012 7:40:18 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: 09Patriot
the last time i checked you can send Israel a check...what I would like to see is the fed government quit PAYING Israel’s enemies...dont fret about Israel the big guy upstairs got their back they wont need us. we just dont need to be on the wrong side lol

Unfortunately the Constitution Party represents that segment of the right (the "palaeocons") who are on the wrong side.

85 posted on 04/23/2012 7:41:04 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Nope, he’s a good Conservative. Unlike RP, he doesn’t kiss the asses of those who hate us (Mohammadans).

It's hard to believe the CP would nominate such a person. They rejected Alan Keyes four years ago because he was pro-Israel.

86 posted on 04/23/2012 7:43:11 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: EternalVigilance

This is all a waste of time. The smart conservatives are taking over their local republican clubs and state parties. Eventually the national leadership.

These third party nobodies only feed obama and helping obama win is the real abandonment of republican principles.


87 posted on 04/23/2012 7:49:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ScottinVA

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html

http://www.tomhoefling.com/index.html


88 posted on 04/23/2012 7:50:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: EternalVigilance

Contrary to what you think, I am most certainly NOT fooling myself.

I repeat what I have previously stated on this thread: I respect your free choice...though I believe it to be a grave mistake.

May God richly bless you and yours.


89 posted on 04/23/2012 7:51:46 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: longtermmemmory

“...helping obama win is the real abandonment of republican principles.”

_____________________________________________

Now THAT is common sense!

;-)


90 posted on 04/23/2012 7:54:41 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: longtermmemmory
The smart conservatives are taking over their local republican clubs and state parties. Eventually the national leadership.

Nonsense.

Politico

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — The Republican Party establishment has withstood the tea-party revolution.

The tricorne-hat wearing, Gadsden-flag waving insurgents were nowhere near the Republican National Committee’s annual meeting of state chairman, which wrapped up at a posh resort here Saturday afternoon.


*excerpt*
 
Many Republicans here said that tea-party activists now understand that things will run more smoothly if those with experience are in charge rather than those who put a premium on ideology over process.
 

91 posted on 04/23/2012 7:55:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: ScottinVA

“The GOP-e regards the Tea Party as little more than an annoyance to be ignored until election time.”

The GOP is trying to corrupt the candidates who won in 2020. They declared war on us.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/13/gop_elite_declares_war_on_tea_party

Bill Kristol on the Tea Party: “It’s an infantile form of conservatism.”

John Feehery, a lobbyist who was once a senior House aide I think to Denny Hastert, is also quoted. “The thing I get a kick out of is these Tea Party people calling me a RINO. No, guys, I’ve been a Republican all along. You go off on your own little world and then come back and say it’s your party. Well, this ain’t your party.”

Scott Reed, veteran strategist and lobbyist: “Yep, trying to, that’s the secret of politics: Trying to control a segment of people without those people recognizing you’re trying to control ‘em.”


92 posted on 04/23/2012 7:56:40 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: ScottinVA

Meant 2010 above....

Anyways, there is a quote which I can’t find at the moment where someone running the GOP said The first thing they would do to the tea party is corrupt it to conform to the republican wishes.


93 posted on 04/23/2012 8:02:00 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks Eternal Vigilance. I remember walking past his office downtown Farmville, Va. I worked very hard for George Allen and Ollie North and could feel the tide changing and leaning towards a more conservative govt in our state. I was so proud that Ollie North did carry my county and that was quite a feat.
Sarah Terry was Chair of our county GOP and went to work for Goode. Shortly afterwards I was offered to chair the county (up from precinct chair) but after I hosted a fundraiser for Jim Miller (Reagan’s former asst budget dir.) We moved to MO.
I would need to know a lot more on Goode’s proposals before I could ever comment. Especially in regards to our defense. I know how Paul stands and if Goode shares his beliefs..well, I could never support it.
Thanks again for the info.


94 posted on 04/23/2012 8:19:29 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: vmivol00
assuming Newt can’t pull something off at the last minute

You can't assume if you haven't $upported him or voted for him. One needs to have the same Patriotic spirit as he has - fight FOR America and starve the maggots who oppose him and use America for their own advantage.

95 posted on 04/23/2012 8:27:04 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Mozilla
Goode is one of those who saw up close the destruction of America by being in both political parties and left them.

It's not rocket science to have seen that. So now he's an opponent of the very one who will bring back America's greatness.

His intentions are pure evil and probably has mitt backing like the other 'so called conservatives'.

96 posted on 04/23/2012 8:33:15 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: EternalVigilance

Also, Goode helped to defeat Marshall Coleman, a good conservative by his support of Wilder. Wilder is pro choice and anti gun. NO to Goode!


97 posted on 04/23/2012 8:33:51 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: ScottinVA

Evil intentions wrapped in a little bit of good is meant to bring in those who can be deceived. He’s a mitt enabler as is RP - birds of a feather and they aren’t eagles.

Newt is the only one who has soared higher keeping his wings protecting our country/Our Constitution. He’s a DOER not a pie-in-the-sky talker.


98 posted on 04/23/2012 8:44:14 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Newt is the only one who has soared higher keeping his wings protecting our country/Our Constitution. He’s a DOER not a pie-in-the-sky talker.

So... is Newt going to jump out of the GOP and go indie? The GOP has for all intents and purposes decided on its nominee.

And how exactly is Virgil Goode a Mitt enabler?

99 posted on 04/23/2012 8:49:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: vmivol00; SumProVita
I’m with Newt until the end...if he isn’t on the ticket, its 3rd party for me.

BTTT. That's the sign of a committed conservative and not one who weakens at the first sign of fear - nothing Patriotic about them. With so much at stake what made them think evil would give them an easy ride? There would be no America if the original patriots succumbed to fear.

Go NEWT! America the beautiful needs you and anyone that opposes you are the ugly Americans.

100 posted on 04/23/2012 8:58:52 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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