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Police ID suspected shoplifter who died after being shot in Walmart(TX)
theeagle.com ^ | 22 April, 2012 | ROSALEE GETTERMAN

Posted on 04/22/2012 8:40:28 PM PDT by marktwain

The suspected shoplifter who died after being shot during a scuffle with a loss-prevention officer inside the College Station Walmart was killed by his own handgun, College Station police revealed Saturday.

The man was identified by police as 47-year-old Michael Alan Bradshaw of Robertson County.

Bradshaw was pronounced dead at College Station Medical Center at about 8:15 p.m. Friday.

Police said Bradshaw had been detained by store personnel as he attempted to leave the Walmart with a shopping cart of stolen merchandise sometime around 4 p.m. Friday.

After being escorted to the store's loss-prevention office, Bradshaw began to struggle with employees and pulled a handgun from his pants pocket.

The gun discharged during the struggle and a round struck a filing cabinet before a loss-prevention officer was able to get control of Bradshaw's gun.

Bradshaw then pulled a knife, investigators determined, and began to approach the loss-prevention officer wielding the gun.

The employee shot Bradshaw once in his mid-section, police said.

The gunfire in the Walmart sent customers running for cover toward the back of the store, where employees directed them outside.

Police could not say what items Bradshaw was attempting to steal from the store.

According to Brazos County records, Bradshaw had been released from the Brazos County Jail on April 10. His confinement had lasted for 20 days because of two writs of commitment.

Although the record did not reflect the reason for Bradshaw's incarceration, writs of commitment can be issued for such infractions as failure to pay child support.

Bradshaw also had been charged with possession of a small amount of marijuana and a DWI in the 1990s.

The investigation of what police were calling an aggravated robbery was ongoing late Saturday.

Walmart closed its doors after the incident but reopened at 6:30 a.m. on Saturday.

Business seemed to continue as usual as customers' cars filled the parking lot.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; robber; tx
An unusual case.
1 posted on 04/22/2012 8:40:35 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Just one more reason to be familiar with weapons from all over the world. You never know when you might have to take a weapon from a goblin and use it on them.

Especially if you work somewhere that you are not allowed to carry to defend yourself.

/johnny

2 posted on 04/22/2012 8:44:47 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Clean-up on aisle 3.”


3 posted on 04/22/2012 9:13:05 PM PDT by QT3.14 (The Second Amendment, The Original Homeland Security)
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To: QT3.14; marktwain
I would like to see a follow-up on this and see if the Wal-Mart employee suffers backlash.

/johnny

4 posted on 04/22/2012 9:15:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ll never understand why people with knives think they stand a chance against someone with a gun pointed at them....


5 posted on 04/22/2012 9:16:42 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: JRandomFreeper

They ought to give him a free box of his favorite ammo;)


6 posted on 04/22/2012 9:18:38 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: marktwain

"Make my day!"

7 posted on 04/22/2012 9:22:09 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: marktwain

Bradshaw was white so the Wal-Mart and the College Station police won’t have Sharpton’s rent-a-mob showing up anytime soon.


8 posted on 04/22/2012 9:29:01 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Frank_2001

Didn’t you see that movie, “Remo Williams”? LOL!


9 posted on 04/22/2012 9:52:15 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Depends on color, age, party affiliation.


10 posted on 04/22/2012 9:56:29 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: Frank_2001

If the gun is already pointed and a round is chamvered, a knife is useless.

If either of those isn’t true, a properly wielded knife can easily be effective within 10 feet. EASILY.


11 posted on 04/22/2012 10:56:52 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: marktwain

How convenient and thoughtful - the thug provided his own pistol and ammo with which to be shot.


12 posted on 04/22/2012 11:37:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marktwain

My lady friend is third in command of a security company, managing all security officers (armed and unarmed) as well as loss prevention officers in a multi-state area (southeastern U.S.).

Their LPO’s are unarmed....and have a VERY dangerous job. They are routinely getting into altercations with Obama’s ‘sons and daughters’ who just decide they had the right to take whatever they want, and by God no one can detain them.

It gets ugly far more often than you’d imagine.


13 posted on 04/23/2012 2:45:26 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: marktwain

I don’t understand why a private “loss prevention officer” has any right to detain anyone. Either call the real police, or I’d walk right out on them.


14 posted on 04/23/2012 3:01:50 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: RightOnline

In 1974 I worked as a floorwalker for Sears while going to college. Lots of apprehensions and, while not in writing at the time, we were not allowed to frisk detainees. I did anyways and confiscated four pistols, five knives and a set of brass knuckles. Wouldn’t want the job now, too old. But Lord, was it fun.


15 posted on 04/23/2012 3:03:52 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: southern rock

I don’t understand why a private “loss prevention officer” has any right to detain anyone....You,as an LPO, are taking the place of the owner of the property,ie the company who hired you, so you have the right to protect that property and bring it back. Sort of like YOU can protect your house and use force to get back, or protect your property. F’ the “real police. they do NOT work for the stores. And I’d really try not to walk out on some the guys I’ve known, including myself.


16 posted on 04/23/2012 3:09:50 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: southern rock

Have you ever heard of a citizen’s arrest?


17 posted on 04/23/2012 3:17:42 AM PDT by monocle
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To: southern rock

Should he help him to his car?


18 posted on 04/23/2012 4:09:55 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Santorum...the only Conservative in the race.)
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To: Safetgiver

Balony, a private store owner or their representitive has no right to detain anyone. If the accused demands the real police be called, they have to do it, or the accused is free to leave.


19 posted on 04/23/2012 4:10:39 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

The cop’s are sometimes called and issue a summons. Sometimes the owner or his representative goes to the local court and files charges on his own. What is so hard to understand that the Bill of Rights says we are allowed the right of life , liberty and the pursuit of property (before it was changed)?


20 posted on 04/23/2012 4:23:59 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: southern rock

a private store owner or their representitive has no right to detain anyone....Show me case law or confess you are just plain ignorant.


21 posted on 04/23/2012 4:28:58 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: monocle
Have you ever heard of a citizen’s arrest?

Yeah, it's a good way to get sued.

22 posted on 04/23/2012 4:30:08 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: Safetgiver

I’ts the case law of I’ll sue yer ass off and win.


23 posted on 04/23/2012 4:36:26 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: Safetgiver
-- a private store owner or their representitive has no right to detain anyone....Show me case law or confess you are just plain ignorant. --

Many states have laws protecting merchants from false imprisonment claims. These laws typically allow merchants to detain retail patrons for a brief period of time when they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person has committed retail theft. In many instances, a shopkeeper is limited to detaining a person to request or verify ID, make a reasonable inquiry into whether the person has purchased the merchandise, and/or to hold the person in custody until a peace officer arrives.
False Imprisonment - FindLaw
24 posted on 04/23/2012 4:41:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: southern rock

LOL! My first large income was from a college professor I caught in 1975 while working, and nailed her for stealing $300 worth of purses and shoes. She was indignant and slapped me in the face. I manhandled her into the back office and called the cops, not because of the shoplifting but because I have the right to go to work without being assaulted. The cop didn’t even write her a summons, he took her along. It went to Civil Court, she ended up paying me $15,000 and nar’y a word was said I violated her rights to steal whatever she wanted. Oh, she plead guilty to theft, lost her job, also.


25 posted on 04/23/2012 4:44:33 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: Cboldt

Thank you for making point. Read on further.


26 posted on 04/23/2012 4:45:56 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: Safetgiver
-- a private store owner or their representitive has no right to detain anyone....Show me case law or confess you are just plain ignorant. --

COA.TX: False Imprisonment & Shopkeeper's Privilege

The shopkeeper's privilege does not require that the person detaining another confirm or refute the detainee's claims regarding the merchandise, nor does it prevent the suspected shoplifter from being held for a reasonable time in order to deliver him to the police. Resendez, 962 S.W.2d at 540; see also Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. Code Ann. S: 124.001; Tex. Crim. Proc. Code Ann. art. 18.16 (granting to any person privilege to detain person suspected of theft and deliver them to peace officer). Because the detention was not without authority of law, Carr has not stated a legally arguable cause of action for false imprisonment, and the realistic chance of his ultimate success on this claim was slight. The trial court did not abuse its discretion by dismissing Carr's claim for false imprisonment. SOURCE: 03-07-00149-CV (10/7/09) (3rd Court of Appeals in Austin, TX)

More cites to caselaw at the link.

27 posted on 04/23/2012 4:48:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Safetgiver
-- Thank you for making point. Read on further. --

You said a shopkeeper has no right to detain. That would be ZERO right.

So, it's your turn to cite caselaw for your proposition, or, as you put it, "confess your ignorance."

28 posted on 04/23/2012 4:51:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

You said a shopkeeper has no right to detain. That would be ZERO right....Ummm, go back and read the previous posts. SOUTHERNROCK said that inanity, not me.


29 posted on 04/23/2012 4:54:24 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: southern rock

Only if you if you do not follow the criteria for using such powers. If I am not mistaken forty-nine states explicitly permit citizen arrests. North Carolina does not statutorily permit citizen arrests but provide for it by other means.


30 posted on 04/23/2012 4:55:36 AM PDT by monocle
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To: southern rock
I think the store not only has the right to detain you, they also have the right to operate their own court, sentence you, and confine you to the basement.

Making products.

Like Santa's little elves.

31 posted on 04/23/2012 4:56:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Safetgiver
-- go back and read the previous posts. SOUTHERNROCK said that inanity, not me. --

Sory about the misattribution. Your post didn't distinguish your response from what you were responding to (italics, new paragraph, remark or something else), and I mistook SouthernRock's assertions as your assertion.

32 posted on 04/23/2012 4:59:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Sorry. I always put..........As the means to dissect my answer from somebody else’s. I just ain’t too geekified, but I DO know Civil and Criminal law. Environmental law, too.


33 posted on 04/23/2012 5:07:22 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: Safetgiver
Apology all mine. My mistake. I read the thread pretty quickly, not carefully. Not making an excuse, just explaining my error.

If that's the last mistake I make today, it'll be an outstanding and remarkable day!

34 posted on 04/23/2012 5:32:38 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: southern rock

Better go read the statutes, son ... at least in Florida they DO have the right and are held harmless. If you don’t like it, don’t go on their property.


35 posted on 04/23/2012 7:22:38 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: Obama sez: "Nice little Supreme Court you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.")
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To: Safetgiver
a private store owner or their representitive has no right to detain anyone....Show me case law or confess you are just plain ignorant.
FS 812.015 Retail and farm theft; transit fare evasion; mandatory fine; alternative punishment; detention and arrest; exemption from liability for false arrest; resisting arrest; penalties.—

(3)(b) The activation of an antishoplifting or inventory control device as a result of a person exiting an establishment or a protected area within an establishment shall constitute reasonable cause for the detention of the person so exiting by the owner or operator of the establishment or by an agent or employee of the owner or operator, provided sufficient notice has been posted to advise the patrons that such a device is being utilized. Each such detention shall be made only in a reasonable manner and only for a reasonable period of time sufficient for any inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the activation of the device.

Bottom line: a store CAN hold you until the cops arrive but there is a narrow window for them to do so. Also note that under that statute an antishoplifting device includes video surveillance, not just a beeping detector at the door.
36 posted on 04/23/2012 7:30:08 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: Obama sez: "Nice little Supreme Court you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.")
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To: Safetgiver
Oh, it is not innanity, Paul Blart. Tell me, what do you do if the accused demands that the police come at once? Refuse to call them? What if they call 911 on you?

I have no doubt a major settlement would be forthcomming.

37 posted on 04/23/2012 4:18:42 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: NonValueAdded
If you don’t like it, don’t go on their property.

And a customer has a right to go onto a public accomidation property without being falsely accused, falsely imprisioned, and manhandled. That's a lawsuit. Actually, its a settlement before it even gets to that level.

38 posted on 04/23/2012 4:32:03 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Lazamataz
I think the store not only has the right to detain you, they also have the right to operate their own court, sentence you, and confine you to the basement.

Oh! I see you got a copy of the Wal*Mart policy manual. I hope you didn't have to hit on some poor girl to get it...But then, if you did I hope it worked out for you. You can't beat a successful hit on a Wal*Mart chick. And I mean that sincerely.

I understand the Staten Island Ferry has a similar policy.

39 posted on 04/23/2012 4:48:47 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Frank_2001
I’ll never understand why people with knives think they stand a chance against someone with a gun pointed at them....

Google up The Tueller Drill and you'll know why.

40 posted on 04/23/2012 4:51:57 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: southern rock
Either call the real police, or I’d walk right out on them.

In case you didn't notice, the guy in the article tried that and it didn't work out too well for him either.

41 posted on 04/23/2012 4:57:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: southern rock

I forgot to add, being Texas, you don’t know who’s waiting outside for you either...lots of armed good citizens.


42 posted on 04/23/2012 5:00:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

No, but I did see “Raiders of the Lost Ark”;)


43 posted on 04/23/2012 8:48:47 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001

Remo Williams dodging bullets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh4Kx9IqIZw

Clips from the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=SzsnXmKzEaM


44 posted on 04/23/2012 9:00:51 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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