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Iran: Obama Should Avoid Carter's Outcome (Worst, Most Ignominious Insult Imaginable)
American Thinker ^ | April 23, 2012 | Reza Kahlili

Posted on 04/23/2012 11:37:21 AM PDT by lbryce

With Iran claiming victory over the West in the 5+1 nuclear negotiations last week in Istanbul, officials of the Islamic regime are again increasing the war rhetoric, vowing that they will not step back from their nuclear program.

And in any military confrontation, Iran's response will be more devastating than imagined, it warned.

At the same time, Iran is calling for the removal of sanctions, calling this the only viable option left for President Obama to save himself.

"The only path left for Obama to avoid a big loss to the Republicans in the upcoming election is to compromise with Iran and immediately remove all sanctions to allow big American oil companies to participate in the Iranian oil and gas projects," said a recent analysis on the Iranian outlet Fadaeian Islam (Devotees of Islam).

"Obama is on a steep decline where his fall is imminent, and even if there is no confrontation with Iran, the oil prices will soon go up by more than $30 (a barrel), which will surely seal the loss of the Democrats in the upcoming elections," the analysis added. "The result of the sanctions on Iran will be less investment in the production of oil in Iran and an automatic rise in prices with a terrible outcome for America, increasing its unemployment."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carter; democrats; fubo; iran; nobama2012; obama; obamatruthfile
The unsigned analysis concluded that Obama is in the same "terrible situation" as President Carter was when Iranians stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979 and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. "The interesting point is that just like Carter, Obama's future is dependent on his approach with Iran, something that did not work well for Carter."

The Iranians are the wiliest, cagiest bunch of miscreants in recent memory, having managed to leverage, exploit their resources far beyond what others would be capable of.

To call out Obama like this by making a comparison of him to Carter is probably the worst, most ignominious insult imaginable. Not to say Jimmy is in any way enamored by having the Iranians invoke his name in this way. Jimmy and the Cockroach-in-Chief are one and the same.

1 posted on 04/23/2012 11:37:28 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Interesting how the Iranian “language”, or “dialogue” is quite similar to that of the North Koreans, or vice versa.


2 posted on 04/23/2012 11:42:44 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: lbryce

Obama thinks the Iranians “punch above their weight”.
Obama almost makes one long for a Carter.


3 posted on 04/23/2012 11:44:33 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: lbryce

It’s sad that I agree with the Iranian regime on this issue.


4 posted on 04/23/2012 11:45:03 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: lbryce

5 posted on 04/23/2012 11:45:38 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: lbryce
The best and worst things that could happen between now and November is for Obama to prove he's not Carter.

It would be best since the Iranian people (and the world in general) would be better off without Ahmadinejad and the mullahs.

It would be the worst because......well.....he's still Obama. He'll find a way to eff it up.

6 posted on 04/23/2012 11:47:10 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: lbryce

>>Jimmy and the Cockroach-in-Chief are one and the same<<

One big difference: jimmah knew he was stupid but didn’t realize he also chose stupid advisers. barry is stupid but thinks he is brilliant. But barry also has selected stupid advisers, so they share that.

barry’s administration will go down as the worst in history — dumber than carter, more corrupt than Grant, more destructive than FDR.


7 posted on 04/23/2012 11:49:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: lbryce

Now I’m confused. If the enemy of an enemy is suppose to be a friend, can anyone trust the Tooth Ferry?

Kik-me-in-da-nads says that Obama better lift sanctions and do as the Republicans say or he’ll end up like Carter?

Did someone slip me acid, him or the media? Was there a translation malfuntion?


8 posted on 04/23/2012 11:49:51 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: jiggyboy

“Miss me yet (carter)”
Wow, that is beautifully ironic. And I have to admit that I think things would have been better (that is, not as terrible) under her majesty clinton than under the Dear Leader we got.


9 posted on 04/23/2012 11:51:54 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: lbryce

>> The Iranians are the wiliest, cagiest bunch of miscreants in recent memory, having managed to leverage, exploit their resources far beyond what others would be capable of.

The NoKos give the Iranians stiff competition in this category... they don’t HAVE any resources and look what THEY have accomplished.

Of course, it helps when you have an obsequious Useful Idiot of a nation at your beck and call. (That would be US.)


10 posted on 04/23/2012 11:59:17 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: jiggyboy

How can I miss him if he won’t go away?


11 posted on 04/23/2012 12:47:27 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

“The only path left for Obama to avoid a big loss to the Republicans in the upcoming election is to compromise with Iran and immediately remove all sanctions to allow big American oil companies to participate in the Iranian oil and gas projects,” said a recent analysis on the Iranian outlet Fadaeian Islam (Devotees of Islam).”

We are told the sanctions don’t work yet their only request is to remove them.


12 posted on 04/23/2012 1:04:00 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: lbryce

“The only path left for Obama to avoid a big loss to the Republicans in the upcoming election is to compromise with Iran and immediately remove all sanctions....”

HAHAHAHAHA!

Why can’t we be friends? Why can’t we be friends? Why can’t we be friends...

Jimmy Carter indeed.


13 posted on 04/23/2012 1:04:27 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: freedumb2003

Remember who writes the history books.


14 posted on 04/23/2012 2:10:08 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Eleutheria5

Yikes! And not about bad former presidents.


16 posted on 04/23/2012 3:14:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Might want to ask the mods to pull that post, y’know?


17 posted on 04/23/2012 3:17:04 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Yes. Please do, Mods. I’ll be more careful next time. I promise.


18 posted on 04/23/2012 4:40:24 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

They have done so. Must think more carefully in future.


19 posted on 04/23/2012 5:06:54 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Please believe me, you’re not the first person on FR to suffer from foot-in-mouth disease. You’re not even the first person in this conversation. ;^)


20 posted on 04/23/2012 5:50:16 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks lbryce.
"The only path left for Obama to avoid a big loss to the Republicans in the upcoming election is to compromise with Iran and immediately remove all sanctions to allow big American oil companies to participate in the Iranian oil and gas projects," said a recent analysis on the Iranian outlet Fadaeian Islam (Devotees of Islam).
The trouble with the headline is, Carter is Zero's Hero.


21 posted on 04/23/2012 8:50:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lbryce

I thought sending Obama the pink toy replica of that drone a few months ago was cheekier..

Seriously, why shouldn’t they “punch above their weight”?? - Over 30 yrs of huff & puff (aka political rhetoric), negotiations, & useless sanctions would naturally embolden an already frisky lot. Simply put, they do because they Can!

So, as they say.. errr... sing: “little less conversation, little more action... by the West” would see satisfaction in a lotta anti-mullah & anti-regime people, in Iran too.


22 posted on 04/23/2012 9:54:16 PM PDT by odds
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To: Eleutheria5

What exactly did you say? I missed it!


23 posted on 04/24/2012 2:22:08 AM PDT by odds
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To: Nervous Tick
I grant you that and concur with your assessment regarding the NoKos. Nevertheless,

The Iranians are an entity unto themselves. Why?
1. We survived a much more powerful, much better equipped enemy, the Soviet Union, with a powerful military, nuclear arsenal exponentially greater than Iran could ever dream of. We outlasted The USSR due to the principles of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Both the US and USSR despite opposing philosophies had a desire to live out our lives in peace, existence in the here and now with emphatic priority over some future spiritual after-life we may may, not someday be part of. To the Soviets, it was even easier, being atheists this was the only place for them.

The brilliance of MAD in keeping the peace rested on the fact that we wanted to live out a normal life existence, where both adversaries,the US and the USSR cherished life to the effect that made MAD work as well as it did, either side knowing trying to kill the other would be certain retribution, death and so we co-existed, in the shadow of the nuclear bomb as a result to remain alive until the natural end.

2. The Iranians on the other hand do not operate under the dynamic that death means their end. To the contrary, as Muslim Sh'ites, they believe in an after-life more fantastic than anything imaginable and in their own words have reiterated how we fear death while they embrace it.

Their prophecy is about the arrival of the final Imam, the 12th Imam, purportedly hastening his returning to Earth to reign over its dominion, once his Sh'ite followers facilitate an act of Jihad of global catastrophic proportions, the act, participation of which guarantee them eternal reward.

They do not fear death,they welcome it, destroying Israel, the decadent West by nuclear or conventional weapons, at the cost of their own death is no hindrance at all for them in building up a military machine, conventional, nuclear, in the attainment of their goal. and have absolutely no compunction whatsoever to killing the entire planet and its 7 Billion inhabitants in the facilitation of their objectives if that's what it takes.

24 posted on 04/24/2012 2:59:29 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Not entirely correct, or at least not in correct context. And, I preface it by saying that I do not support Obama.

When the Iranian (Regime), soon after Iraqi invasion in 2003, thought George W. Bush administration was serious about “Axis of Evil” (which included Iranian Regime), they (the Iranian Regime) flooded the GWB Admin with “Islamic Reformists”, many holding US passports (citizenship).

IOW, they (the Iranian Regime) was running for cover & was DEADLY afraid.

GWB Admin caved in & succumbed to the Islamic Reformists lobby around 2005/2006 (lobby incl. people like Trita Parsi, who since Obama admin have become quiet as mice, and in the media as well).

GWB Admin, was on the right track in its 1st term, but lost its chance of overpowering the Mullahs’ REGIME in Iran in its 2nd term. It is that simple.

True about he Messianic vision in Shia Islam, BUT not uniqe to Shia Islam at all. The Sunnis hold similar views, as do the Baha’is. In fact, the Ba’hai Faith is extremely Messianic.

Most moslems in Iran believe in the Messiah to come (aka Mehdi, 12th Imam). But, that is no different to Resurrection concept & Judgement Day in Christianity.

I personally have no reservation to kill off the Iranian Regime. But, I would caution any one equating the Iranian Regime with the Iranian People, past, present or in the future. Just as I would not, generically, equate the American gov’t with the American people. More so in Iran’s case, because in the US at least one has more (impartial) options.

If the Iranian Regime, currently in charge in Iran, wanted to have the 12th Imam arrive ASAP, and had “absolutely no compunction whatsoever to killing the entire planet and its 7 Billion inhabitants in the facilitation of their objectives if that’s what it takes.” - as you say - it would not be running scared as it has done, and still does, only to show Bravado.

Final point: Seriously take action against the REGIME in IRAN, preferably this year, and you will have your answer, without further speculation.

Most of the Regime Ayatollahs will be off to South America, South East Asia, and so on... while their goons will be, hopefully, killed to move on to find their place along side their father Khomeini.


25 posted on 04/24/2012 4:15:03 AM PDT by odds
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To: lbryce

>> The Iranians are an entity unto themselves...They do not fear death,they welcome it

I have to admit, their “death wish” pseudo-religion DOES make ‘em a tad scarier than the NoKos, if not more clever with their resources. In that, they certainly are in their own league.


26 posted on 04/24/2012 5:47:17 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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