Skip to comments.Trayvon Martin / Zimmermann case gets weaker every day. New Negative Revelations.
Posted on 04/23/2012 2:25:39 PM PDT by MindBender26
I have just learned from a friend in Seminole County law enforcement, who is very close to Zimmermann case, that the case against Mr. Zimmerman is even weaker than originally thought.
It seems that the police officer/technician who collected the evidence at the scene and signed the evidence report was not in any way qualified to do so.
He was much more of a breathalyzer technician and someone who would do field drug testing and initial toxicology reports at the scenes of suspected crimes. It is believed that the shooting was his first ever full crime scene investigation and he had not been trained to the standard levels of competency. The Sanford PD did not think the case against Zimmerman had nearly enough merit to bother doing a thorough investigation.
In addition, when the drug screens come back from Martin, they will show a host of recreational drugs. All of this is further circumstantial evidence of potential irrational activity on the part of Mr. Martin, and remember, the State has already admitted that they have no evidence as to who started the fight.
There's more: There is another very interesting point of law coming to the forefront. It may easily be held that regardless of who started the fight, when Martin slammed Zimmerman's head onto the concrete with the force that he did, that act became Assault With A Deadly Weapon, (the concrete,) and at that point Zimmerman had the right to defend himself, with deadly force if necessary, regardless of what had happened up to that point.
We shall see.
I think Trayvon had only been there a few days, and the burglaries had been over a longer period. He could be responsible in theory for some but not for all. Of course he may not have committed any of them (I don’t know the date of the last burglary)...but if Trayvon’s father finds some unexplained loot in his home that looks like it might have come from someone else’s home, don’t expect him to run to the police and say “this could be stolen property.”
Since Sanford is just north of Orlando, and the kid lived in or near Miami, it is doubtful that he was the one doing the robbing.
What's that you say, Mr. Cochrane? "If he don't know $..t, you must acquit"?
But Trayvon SHOULD NOT HAVE WALKED HOME FROM 7-11, because walking home is walking home!
If you see someone walking home, you have the right to...
Heh, thank you kindly. I think I went temporarily slightly more insane than usual :S
A little less than a mile is very easy for a fit 17 year old football player to do in well under 20 minutes without even running. Just check with some of your adult friends who hike a lot. That means St. Trayvon was up to rather bit more than just coming home.
Well, let’s see.
Your friend is going to get fired not just for being incompetent but stoopit.
He shouldn’t be sharing evidence, chain of custody or anything else with anyone not officially attached to this case.
The Tox screens are going to show recreational drugs? I don’t doubt it but, is there some report that makes that assessment and suspicion?
Yep, the left’s thinking is all screwed up. Basically, they are purely anti-American and anti-fundamental moral principle and anti-republican principle (meaning the “reoublic” and not the political party).
Fact is, Zimmerman following Martin was no more illegal than Martin walking in the subdivision.
Until someone committed a crime, they were both watching each other and wary of each other, but had no need to attack one another.
All evidence, IMHO, at this point points to Martin initiating violence and criminal activity.
From the physical evidence, to extrapolating the eye witeness accounts, to the background and habits of the two individuals. One read of Martin’s tweeter postings makes it clear, while Zimmerman was tudoring minority kids each week for free.
It will be an aquittal, followed by some level of civil disturbances...and depending on that, followed by a Holder initiated retrial on civil-rights charges...which if it is an impartial jury, should also fail flat out.
No, but I bet the local crime rate has dropped.
Any punk who sucker-punches someone who asks them a question and then proceeds to try to smash their brains out while they lay stunned needed to be taken out. Zimm has done the community a favor saving who-knows-how-many future victims of the punk.
I thought we were at the sentencing phase since the Establishmedia already had the trial. It was only a matter of which method of death penalty?
He should sue NBC into the ground.
Pray for America
My understanding is that SYG removes the requirement to retreat if it safely possible before self-defense with deadly force is allowed. Since there presumably no safe retreat available at the time Zimmerman used deadly force (since he was pinned to the ground) then self-defense was allowed with or without SYG.
I can quickly walk a mile in about 12 minutes.
Use to walk to my office years ago and it was exactly one mile from my home.
My long-shot prediction is that some of the jewelry found in Trayvon’s locker will be matched to jewelry reported stolen in the development. I have just had a feeling all along that Trayvon had hunted there before.
Well stated Jeff.
IF Attorney General Panther Holder SHOULD pursue a federal civil rights case against Zimmerman, we can HOPE that such a case would be dropped after 20 January 2013.
Hope all is good with you and yours!
O’Mara, Zimmerman’s attorney, is reputedly one of the best criminal defense lawyers in Florida.
Exactly...bingo! This is a case of pure self defense against deadly force by a perpetrator. The local PD figured that out over-night.
the State AG is looking to make a name and it is political IMHO, and she is going to lose.
Holder will also make it political if he thinks he can...and to further agitate the minorities and his people like Jackson, Sharpton, and the New Black Panthers. But that case will fail too if they seat an impartial jury.
Except this was not the only time he had come up to Sanford. Without a doubt, he could have committed burglaries in Sanford in the past.
Check the dates he visited his father and see if they match up with any of the robbery dates.
Martin was aware that Zimmerman was watching him—on the tape of the conversation with the dispatcher Zimmerman mentions that the person is staring at him. If Martin felt threatened he could easily have gone to his father’s place. That instead he chose to confront Zimmerman suggests either heightened machismo where he was enraged at the idea that Zimmerman was spying on what he was up to, or that he was on drugs and behaving irrationally.
Yep...alll potential reasons for his behavior.
As someone stated on this thread, I wonder what a check of dates when Martin visited his father in the sub-division would show in relation to the burglaries occurring in that neighborhood.
Not saying it would show anything, but it should be looked at. I bet the defense lawyer does.
Au contraire mon frere, if Travyon was walking home, he would have arrived home.
Instead he arrived in Hell.
I would love to see the case tossed and then the judge issue a rule to show cause on whoever brought this case.
Wo cares what they call it. Let them riot. This will assure Obama will win no more than 30% of the vote.
Sorry! Forgot my /sarc tag...
Did Trayvon pass?
The best answer to the question would be:
Shouldn’t we known his autopsy results be known now? Hasn’t it been two months?
WRONG! He didn't know his race.
Drugs cost money, did this young lad have a job?
I’m fairly certain both prosecution and defense asked for it to be sealed.
O'Mara comes off as a nice guy, but also comes off as very well prepared and always in control. That bail hearing sent a message that he's quite capable of being tough in court.
OMG I got out of my car and walked around town for a whole day! Lucky I didn’t get my @ss whipped as I wouldn’t have even known I deserved it!!!
I thought Zimmerwhiteman hunted him down and shot him in mid-skittle.
What are those pics of?
Uh, he was, uh, yeah, I got it. He was taking a class in jewelry repair. Yeah, that's it!
Truth be told, as long as you don't have the sheer audacity to get out of your car when certain "people" are around to see you get out of your car, then you will likely be OK and within your rights.
But hey! It ain cool be walkin that fast. Damn wyatt people likes to walk fast cause they ain cool an they alls want to look like they going somewhere portant. They alls walkin fast like they gots git home tuh take a leak or sumpin.
You gots to stroll like its a sunny day in duh park an you ain in no hurry git anywhere 'tall. Like, when dat rett light change green an you inna cross walk wit all them wyatt people waitin in they cars? You gots to walk nice an calm cross dat street to let then know who's in charge uh dis place an they ain no traffic light gone bust you stride.
If you walks a mile in less than 45 minute, you outta de thug club, man! Dat series! Sides, walkin fast wear out that $200 shoe you stole from dat wyatt boy jus for you smack his haid an knock he out.
You forgot the tag! One never knows anymore.
“What are the pics of”
His bloody head...
Is this the same friend who said there would be no indictment?
You never kill your friends to appease your enemies. Good on Sanford for not accepting resignation. I bet he’s been threatened as well.
O’Mara is a kick ass attorney. Zimmerman is well defended. He’s not flashy or controversial. But he’s smart and efficient.
OK. Thanks. So it wasn’t released yet. I’m sure/hope his lawyer has the results or able to have had it tested themselves.
Oh, yes! Thanks.
Good to know. Is this the same lawyer who said he isn’t going to represent him anymore since he didn’t hear from him and said he wasn’t in FL anymore but far away?
They've verified the location of the 7-Eleven? In another thread, a question was raised about that. I think someone was using Google Maps to plot the store locations relative to the scene of the shooting - it was more like two miles.
Wow. The question remains... will we see the actual autopsy or will that be sealed too?
No. That was Z’s two previous lawyers that hauled ass. He has solid representation now. Its all good. The focus is to discredite an idiot names crump or parks..
OMG!! You must have taken a post graduate course in Ebonics.