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Paying $60 For A Light Bulb That Lasts 20 Years Is Kind Of A No-Brainer (Really?!)
Consumerist ^ | April 23, 2012 | By Mary Beth Quirk

Posted on 04/23/2012 3:19:08 PM PDT by SMGFan

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To: Stegall Tx

Yepper. (thx for providing that link)

But we really needed the new and improved version the govt is trying to ram down our throats...which contain mercury no less.

We’ve come along way baby...


51 posted on 04/23/2012 4:15:24 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: SMGFan

Yeah! It makes a lot of sense for those of us past 70. /s


52 posted on 04/23/2012 4:15:53 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SMGFan

Let’s run the math: I can buy an incandescent light bulb that will last a year for 50 cents. In 20 years, I’ll have spent 10 bucks. Compared to 60 bucks? They think we’re pretty stupid.


53 posted on 04/23/2012 4:16:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SMGFan

How do they know it will last 20 years? They only tested it for 1 1/2 years!!! LOL
Man, they really think we’re stupid!


54 posted on 04/23/2012 4:17:10 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: lacrew

If they can get the price down a little I will install them all over my house. I live in Texas, and we run the air conditioner 9 months out of the year. Led’s don’t get hot. I already have a couple. They will save on air conditioner costs. They also use very little electricity, so there is more savings. (that’s why led flashlights have such a long run time.)The long bulb life is only part of the advantage. Now, at the price they are, I’m in no hurry to switch over all my lamps just yet, but they will come down. The only down side I can see to them is that the light is different, and takes a bit of getting used to.


55 posted on 04/23/2012 4:18:10 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Utah Binger

Nice.
LED lights work really well for illuminating art work and jewelry cases.
The lights are fantastic.
Companies are coming out with equivalent to incandescent light quality and way cheaper.
In the next few months there will be 75 watt equivalent bulbs that fit in standard sockets for around $15 and last decades.
Good job, the art looks great.


56 posted on 04/23/2012 4:19:23 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: central_va; discostu

...but only if you didn’t have to carry on a conversation with her.


57 posted on 04/23/2012 4:19:38 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’m still working on a UPS unit big enough to run my FIOS box and TV for 8 hours. :-)

Have you seen that you can just update a standard UPS with a bigger battery (or battery stack)?

58 posted on 04/23/2012 4:36:07 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: mountainlion

I have some original CFL’s that are still going after at least 15 years (US made , non-twisty ,, rectangular and 2D types) ... I’ve had Chinese made blow out on first power up ,, some have lasted as much as 5 years in a low stress environment (higher quality “natural spectrum” Chinese made .. on a timer , on 12/off 12 lighting a fish tank) ,, some have failed (ballast) ,, one actually melted the plastic base on failure. I have some LED lighting ,, the major problem seems to be the pcb ,, I have entire rows of led’s go out in an array...


59 posted on 04/23/2012 4:49:19 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: discostu

You’re just ASKING for a graphic of Helen Thomas in a Playboy bunny suit, and I’m NOT hanging around to see it!


60 posted on 04/23/2012 4:56:08 PM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: Quickgun

I also own an LED flashlight, so I’m not allergic to progress.

My flashlight is DC....and ice cold.

To use the house AC however, the base of the bulb is going to have some circuitry...which will give off heat. Now, the actual diode will not give off (much) heat...but the circuitry at the base of the bulb will. If you look at one, it will have a metalic base, with ridges (think air cooled engine with heat fins)....or liquid cooled - no kidding!

I don’t know how this heat compares with that of a standard bulb...I’m sure its less, but certainly not zero. BTW, I imagine if you put an LED bulb in a globe style fixture, you will either 1) burn your house down, or 2) experience very short bulb life.

None of this is the end of the world, if you can put up with the quality of the light. They do use less energy, have better light than CFL, turn on right away....all good.

But, I’m just a little bit jaded, after having the world tell me I was a cretin, for not embracing CFL’s...and it seems they are going to be nothing more than a stain on history.

If you do have a few already...do they have heat fins...and are they hot?

And I am curious as to what type of fixture they are in. My homebuilder actually installed one over my shower...I don’t know why. But, I never use it - because it stays on for 5 minutes, and shuts itself off, with some sort of overheat protection - its in a recessed can, which brings us back to that burn down the house scenario. If the overheat protection were to fail...well, I don’t know what would happen. Anyway, just wondering if yours were recessed, in a globe, in an open fixture, etc.


61 posted on 04/23/2012 4:58:55 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SMGFan

I’d buy candles first. Made from whales


62 posted on 04/23/2012 5:03:29 PM PDT by Figment
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To: mountainlion

I’ve tried a few. Didn’t like the light and never had one last 3 months


63 posted on 04/23/2012 5:06:02 PM PDT by Figment
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To: lacrew

If you do have a few already...do they have heat fins...and are they hot?


Yes, I can not keep my fingers on them for more than a few seconds.


64 posted on 04/23/2012 5:07:53 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: Born to Conserve

Cold light!

Not so quick. I thought the same about led light until recently. LEDs can get quite hot when putting out a large amount of light. My company makes a heat sink for an led array that is the size of a manhole cover. The light isn’t that impressive either


65 posted on 04/23/2012 5:10:32 PM PDT by Figment
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To: SMGFan

For $60 bulbs, thieves will be exstatic.

Will they come with little locks and chains? Did any of the bean-counters factor in theft from public places?


66 posted on 04/23/2012 5:10:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SMGFan

How do they know it lasts 20 years? Has anyone run this model for 20 years and seen it still ticking?


67 posted on 04/23/2012 5:11:11 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: SMGFan
I replaced the Krypton bulb in my big Maglight with their LED substitute. It worked well enough, for a while. It seemed to provide longer battery life, but the blue light definitely scattered worse in fog, etc. Now, though, the LED has degraded to the point where its (focused) beam is hardly visible on a lighted room wall -- no matter what type of fresh batteries I use.

I'm going back to the incandescent bulb.

68 posted on 04/23/2012 5:13:02 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Pilated

Try an LED flashlight. Bright, and several of mine are 4+ years old, and STILL running on the original generic AAA batteries they came with...

They may not be ready for prime time as HOUSEHOLD lighting, but as flashlights and book-lights, they’re outstanding now...


69 posted on 04/23/2012 5:14:41 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Pilated
I will not buy it. I will not use them. I do not believe them.

I would not like them
here or there.
I would not like them
anywhere.
I do not like
green eggs and ham.
I do not like them,
Sam-I-am

Would you like them
in a house?
Would you like them
with a mouse?

I do not like them
in a house.
I do not like them
with a mouse.
I do not like them
here or there.
I do not like them
anywhere.
I do not like green eggs and ham.
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.

70 posted on 04/23/2012 5:19:20 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Utah Binger

All I care about is light quality. I love the look of conventional soft-white incandescent light bulbs. I detest brilliant hot white lighting to the point of violence.

Do LEDs duplicate or improve upon the soft warm glow of incandescent bulbs, or do I have to suffer with some poor approximation.

I need the naked truth here.


71 posted on 04/23/2012 5:21:54 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: SMGFan
I'd pay $60 if they could guarantee I would last another 20 years.
72 posted on 04/23/2012 5:23:43 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: beethovenfan

LED’s use a fraction of the power. You need to factor that into the cost.


73 posted on 04/23/2012 5:23:55 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: SMGFan

When I toured Edison’s lab in Florida back in the 80’s, they had some original bulbs that were still working. So, I figure they’ve always known how to make incandescent lightbulbs that last 60 years, they’re just not economical to sell, since you won’t have much repeat business.


74 posted on 04/23/2012 5:27:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Rio
Yeah but, there is arsenic in LED’s. Not to mention lead.

How did this escape the environmentalists?

75 posted on 04/23/2012 5:33:32 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: discostu
Only way I’m paying $60 for a light bulb is if it gets installed for me, by a naked Playmate, while I’m sitting directly under it.

ROFLMAO!

Clarification needed: "Sitting under the bulb or under the Playmate?"

Makes all the difference int the world. lol

76 posted on 04/23/2012 5:36:15 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: combat_boots

More hippies than how many Irishmen it takes to screw in a light bulb.

Total = 3 Irishmen

1 to Hold the light bulb, 2 to drink until the room spins.


77 posted on 04/23/2012 5:39:58 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

We had been looking for a warm approach that had the same look as Halogens for three or four years. Many we saw were very white and almost blue. Plus they didn’t have the strength we desired to illuminate artwork.

In the last year many new products have come into the market. This is not a green issue. This is an issue of progress regarding lighting.

Naked truth spoken. We use TCP Par 38 LED’s, Google it! Can I put my clothes back on yet? LOL


78 posted on 04/23/2012 5:44:26 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Stegall Tx

I’m going to wire it into my Prius. :-)


79 posted on 04/23/2012 5:47:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Say I’ve got maybe 20 bulbs in my house.

Count them, you may find out that you have way more than that. (Don't forget the one in your fridge.)

80 posted on 04/23/2012 5:49:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Goody for you. You live your life I’ll live mine. Smiles


81 posted on 04/23/2012 5:58:40 PM PDT by Pilated
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To: ModelBreaker

Don’t knock over the lamp


82 posted on 04/23/2012 5:59:51 PM PDT by rjones42
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To: mass55th

We had the same experience. After dad passed away we went through his house and replaced them all with regular light bulbs which are just fine and much better light.


83 posted on 04/23/2012 6:02:21 PM PDT by Pilated
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To: Kozak

You’re right. I estimated that I would start saving money after about 5 to 8 years.


84 posted on 04/23/2012 6:14:39 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: SMGFan
$5.....probably

$10....maybe

$60.....Nicht...nein....no!

85 posted on 04/23/2012 6:20:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: SMGFan

Lemme see, if you’re average regular bulb costs you $1 (it doesn’t, it’s cheaper than that), you would have to change the bulb three times a year to be cost effective. The crap they’re trying to sell us is absurd.


86 posted on 04/23/2012 6:25:21 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Fighting the Left does not mean that we have to adopt all of their tactics.)
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To: Sirius Lee

I like icecream too - Butter Pecan Swirl.


87 posted on 04/23/2012 6:39:22 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Utah Binger

Green, schmeen. I don’t care either way. If I can get a light bulb that lowers my bills and puts out far less heat in the summer, I’m good with that.

I just demand a certain quality of light, and free light bulbs and free electricity won’t get me to put in lights that are blinding glaring white that I hate. I demand that warm yellow light quality that soft white incandescents display. If you say I can get that from these, then I’ll try one out.


88 posted on 04/23/2012 6:42:08 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: SMGFan

We put in LEDs for the long life, since our ceiling is 22 ft high. They’re still working after 3 years, but growing dim, very fast over the last few months.


89 posted on 04/23/2012 6:48:24 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: lacrew

You are correct about the fact they do generate a little heat. Mostly on the base, and the heat isn’t nowhere near as much as a regular bulb, as it is pretty much localized to the base. If one has ever gotten hot enough to actually ignite something, I’m not aware of it. Now, on those recessed fixtures, I have 4 in my living area, and they have never worked correctly. even with 40 watt standard bulbs, after they have been on about 10 minutes they start tripping the heat switches. All 4 of them do it, I ‘ve never tried to fix them ,I just use the ceiling fan lamps in that room.
I think, in the long run, the lower electricity bills will justify the use of the LED bulbs. They have some things that could be improved on, and of course, convincing people that they might just be a good thing after the mediocre performance of most CFL’s will be a challenge, too.


90 posted on 04/23/2012 6:49:28 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Utah Binger

OK, I’ve done a bit of a search and so far I’m not finding any TCP Par38 LED or Par30 bulbs with a color temperature of below 3000. They seem to be at 3000 when I like light below 2700. It just makes a big difference to my eyes.

Maybe someday they will get down to the color temperature I’m looking for. I can still get one just to see how it looks, but it seems to white for my preference.

Thanks though.


91 posted on 04/23/2012 7:00:52 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: SMGFan

An LED flashlight which costs aroud ten bucks is way better than incandescents for inspecting welds - flaws stick out like a sore thumb. I won’t buy them for the house until they are way cheaper than they are now though.


92 posted on 04/23/2012 7:38:44 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Hope springs eternal - maybe the Bucs will break .500 this year)
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To: Salgak

We got one for a gift. It is not as good as our regular flash lights. We threw it in the back of the junk drawer so we didn’t get it confused with the good ones.


93 posted on 04/25/2012 8:18:08 AM PDT by Pilated
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“It will last for 20 years?
So they have had one for 20 years in use and it lasted that long?”

Nailed.

Just like the rechargeable batteries that “can be renewed over 1000 times”.


94 posted on 04/25/2012 8:20:51 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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