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Historic wave of Mexican immigration at a standstill, report says
LATimes ^ | 4/23/2012

Posted on 04/23/2012 7:42:24 PM PDT by South40

The number of Mexican migrants to the United States dropped significantly while the number of those returning home increased, bringing net migration from Mexico to a statistical standstill, according to a report published Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; borderwars; buildtheborderwall; california; immigration; mexicanimmigration; mexico; newmexico; texas

1 posted on 04/23/2012 7:42:28 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

SB 1070.


2 posted on 04/23/2012 7:43:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the 47% to start paying their "fair share" of income taxes.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

...and Sheriff Joe Arpaio.


3 posted on 04/23/2012 7:44:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the 47% to start paying their "fair share" of income taxes.)
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To: South40

I have always said, if they have a livelihood at home, they’ll stay home.

Thanks Obama /s


4 posted on 04/23/2012 7:45:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: South40

Yeah, they’re standing still in Texas, Arizona and Mexifornia.


5 posted on 04/23/2012 7:48:19 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism is not a party slogan, but a mindset guided by core values and walking the walk.)
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To: South40

The delay in reporting, based on the delay in statistical tabulation of something that happened because of an “economy” some time back.

No jobs = no illegals.

Our federal government and their lackluster sorta kinda attempt at securing our border doesn’t deserve the credit. Likewise this also demonstrates how the illegal issue could have been dealt with many years ago, fairly easily had their been a “sincere” attempt to gain control of this problem, through the IRS. By targeting employers and levying substantial fines, this issue would have gone away quickly despite all those that scream it would have been impossible.


6 posted on 04/23/2012 7:50:27 PM PDT by Red6
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To: South40

And just who expects us to believe these stats claiming that the Mexican invasion is over?

Maybe they’re not streaming quite so heavily into Californica, but then nobody wants to live there anymore. And who can blame them?

How about a survey of ranchers in Arizona, Texas and New Mexico? Do they sleep better at night now?


7 posted on 04/23/2012 7:51:05 PM PDT by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. — Robert Heinlein)
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To: mylife
Estimates are based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau. How many 13-15 strong Mexican households do you think reported accurately in the census?

I've seen no decline and believe the numbers are wrong and intended to fool the public into believing the problem is not as bad as many of us know it really is.

8 posted on 04/23/2012 7:53:14 PM PDT by South40 (Mitt is full of Shtt)
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To: South40

I haven’t seen any 13-15 strong Mexican households since I moved out of Ca 20 years ago.


9 posted on 04/23/2012 8:04:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DNME

“And just who expects us to believe these stats claiming that the Mexican invasion is over?”

Every politician. So that they won’t be pressured to do anything about the millions of illegal aliens still here.


10 posted on 04/23/2012 8:07:51 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la raza trojan horse.)
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To: South40

I don’t trust this report one bit.

Obama needs this, so it’s is very likely faux.


11 posted on 04/23/2012 8:11:44 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: mylife
Not seeing them doesn't change the fact they do exist.

Escondido, CA, comes to mind.

This story relies on US census data that is specious at best. At worst, it's an outright lie. Not that the federal government would lie to us. /s

12 posted on 04/23/2012 8:23:58 PM PDT by South40 (Mitt is full of Shtt)
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To: South40
Regardless of the veracity of the statistic, once one resigns themselves to the intellectually offensive possibility that the government actually wants this country flooded with foreign invaders to bleed the nation dry of financial resources and the ability to resist, everything just falls into place. It all makes sense in that context. Sometimes you just gotta have a stiff drink and wrap your mind around unpleasant realities.
13 posted on 04/23/2012 8:33:14 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: South40

guatemalans have literally taken over my town (Jupiter, FL). It isn’t just mexico. There are anchor babies EVERYWHERE here.

Jupiter has the highest guatemalan population per capita in the United States and it is becoming a ridiculous burden.

And the local rich Republicans employ them to trim their hedges, mow their lawns, and clean their houses. Selfish is the word that comes to mind when I go to houses (for work) on Jupiter Island and Palm Beach. Do as I say, not as I do.

Ruin a beautiful little seaside town because you don’t want to pay retail for your landscaping and housekeeping. Makes no sense.


14 posted on 04/23/2012 8:39:14 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: South40
Another indicator that the economy is going into the dumper - again.
15 posted on 04/23/2012 8:58:11 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Red6

“No jobs = no illegals.”

We’ve got a good number here in NJ that didn’t come here to work; apparently they came here to breed. The people they were mating with are shocked that Americans are learning how to cut their own grass again; we have plenty of time on our hands and no money left to funnel to Mexico...


16 posted on 04/23/2012 9:25:35 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: FlJoePa

See # 16; they certainly aren’t leaving NJ. The work has dried up for many of the day laborers as the Americans that used to hire them lost their jobs and/or fled the state; the ones popping out the anchor babies are paid via welfare/food stamps/housing allowances to do so. They are displacing many of the blacks here in our cities, and many of the whites in the surrounding suburbs. My town was renowned for its St. Patrick’s Day parades until about 20 years ago; now the Peruvian Day parade is much bigger, and our fish & chips restaurants are now South American restaurants with signs 100% in Spanish.


17 posted on 04/23/2012 9:30:27 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: mylife

“I haven’t seen any 13-15 strong Mexican households since I moved out of Ca 20 years ago.”

A relative of mine bought a nice rancher in Sonoma out of foreclosure. Nice on the outside. Inside five Mexican families had turned it into an unbelievable dump. There were virtually no plug outlets that worked, ditto for the faucets. The living and dining rooms had been “subdivided,” and additional windows had been added but you could still see daylight around them. It was so dirty that we had to spray sealer over all the walls and ceilings because the dirt would not wash off! I guess they missed the dirt floors or something from “back home.”


18 posted on 04/23/2012 9:36:26 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: South40
During that time the number of illegal immigrants from Mexico residing in the U.S. fell sharply from 7 million to about 6.1 million. Those estimates are based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau.



HA HA HA HA HA HA!




There are probably at LEAST a million illegals in the greater DFW area all by itself!

We have entire swaths of towns that are above 95%.

And that is nothing compared to Houston and San Antonio.

The population of Texas alone could account for this clowns' entire "estimate."

Area Name Texas

Total 25,883,999

Anglo 11,468,216

Black 2,978,813

Hispanic 10,219,674

Other 1,217,296

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/chs/popdat/ST2011.shtm

Estimating that about half the "hispanic" population is comprised of illegals that comes to five million just in Texas.

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19 posted on 04/23/2012 9:36:49 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: vette6387

But Hey! It’s Sonoma!


20 posted on 04/23/2012 9:41:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DNME

Those coming across the ranches aren’t immigrants they are the drug runners.


21 posted on 04/23/2012 10:03:58 PM PDT by tiki
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To: South40

I own a business in Santa Ana, Ca and spend every day there. By simple observation it is obvious that there is a significant decline in the illegal population. Even the 2010 census shows a major decline in the actual population of the city. What happened to these people? They went back to Mexico. It makes no sense to deny an obvious truth.


22 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:47 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Sam Clements

I live in San Diego, aka, “Tijuana del Norte”, and I have seen no decline whatsoever in the number of ILLEGAL aliens who have infested this city and county. They continue to trek through my property nightly. The continue to fill their jugs with my hose, pick fruit from my trees and steal eggs from my hen house. They continue to break into my garage and try to hotwire every vehicle on the property. While the number of jobs I frequent may have declined the number of ILLEGALs on those jobs clearly has not. There has been no notable difference in the number of ILLEGAL aliens I see and encounter regularly in both my professional and private life. It makes no sense to ignore that truth.


23 posted on 04/23/2012 10:59:07 PM PDT by South40 (Mitt is full of Shtt)
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To: South40
Well done Obama! You effed the economy up so bad not even the Mexicans want to come over. EPIC FAIL you stupid Marxist.
24 posted on 04/24/2012 1:09:31 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: kearnyirish2
As long as the penalties for hiring illegals are less than the profits that can be made from using them, business will use them.

http://www.lonestarreport.org/LoneStarReport/BlogArchive/tabid/65/EntryId/378/Pilgrims-Pride-chicken-reaches-immigration-settlement-with-feds-includes-commentary.aspx

Look, these corporation are doing simple math. Pay the fine = a few hundred thousand, use illegals, and make an extra few million.

1. Through the IRS and other means we can easily tell who's hiring them.

2. By increasing penalties and actually pursuing employers, they will stop hiring them.

3. When the jobs and benefits dry up, they disappear.

The effective solution to this issue is to target the employers. They by OSHA, tax and other regulations have to maintain records that would indicate if they are using illegals, if the cost benefit analysis is pushed to the other side even the unethical ones would stop using illegals, and once the money spigot is turned off, they (illegals) will disappear.

The border control is a joke and everyone knows it. These “fence projects” are political maneuvers to appease a base while in reality the same politicians are talking about amnesty or extending social security benefits etc. We have for years been haphazardly and halfheartedly been enforcing our laws. It is not impossible nor even that difficult to gain control of this situation, but NO ONE, Democrat or Republican, is truly pursuing a solution. It's politically damaging because of the Latino vote. So the rest is BS and I wish even Republicans, to include loud mouths like Rick Perry would simply shut up on this issue and stop patronizing me.

25 posted on 04/24/2012 3:19:10 PM PDT by Red6
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To: kearnyirish2
Why do businesses today largely follow OSHA and EPA standards? Benevolence?

Because if they dump carbontetracloride into the ground or lake, they will get raped. But if you hire 300 illegals and make a few million doing that, you “might” get a $25,000 - $50,000 fine and not lose any government contracts either. This is a simple business 101 and math problem requiring no more than addition/subtraction and multiplication/division. Go after the employers and the problem will be greatly reduced.

The reason why there are less illegals in the stats now (crossing the border), is because of that exact reason. The benefit for many isn't there. This is all an economically driving issue and you have to approach it that way if you really want to fix it. Posters, petty fines, tough-guy speeches, even a fence, isn't going to do much.

26 posted on 04/24/2012 3:29:25 PM PDT by Red6
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