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Weeping four-year-old girl accused of carrying a GUN (Title truncated)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | April 24, 2012 | Hugo Gye

Posted on 04/24/2012 6:28:42 AM PDT by BO Stinkss

Of all the many complaints about airport security and the TSA, one of the most common is that they make little distinction between plausible security threats and passengers unlikely to be doing anything wrong.

And a recent incident in Wichita, Kansas has reinforced that argument, as a four-year-old girl was apparently subjected to a humiliating ordeal after she hugged her grandmother while she was waiting in line.

The girl was accused of having a gun and declared a 'high security threat', while agents threatened to shut down the whole airport if she could not be calmed down.

When asked about the overbearing treatment the girl received, a TSA spokesman did not apologise and insisted that correct procedures had been followed.

Four-year-old Isabella's horrific experience in Wichita earlier this month was recounted on Facebook by her furious mother Michelle Brademeyer.

The family was in Kansas for a wedding, and was travelling home to Montana with Ms Brademeyer's mother.

Ms Brademeyer and her two children had passed through security when the grandmother was detained after triggering an alarm on the scanners.

Isabella then, according to her mother, 'excitedly ran over to give her a hug, as children often do. They made very brief contact, no longer than a few seconds.'

The young girl was immediately detained by security agents, who apparently shouted at her that she would have to be frisked too, and refused to let her mother explain what has happening.

Ms Brademeyer wrote: 'It was implied, several times, that my mother, in their brief two-second embrace, had passed a handgun to my daughter.'

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If you want to be left alone, wear a burqa.
1 posted on 04/24/2012 6:28:47 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss
If you want to be left alone, wear a burqa.
Unless some TSA agent says she once saw a gun in a Teddy Burka.
2 posted on 04/24/2012 6:33:30 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: BO Stinkss
Yes, another great day in "The land of the free"...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

3 posted on 04/24/2012 6:33:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: BO Stinkss
Has anyone compiled a list of all these TSA abuse stories?

I know we are "at war" and 4 yo girls are the agents of choice, but this seems excessive.

4 posted on 04/24/2012 6:35:57 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: BO Stinkss

The war on terror is over... but the war against American citizens is just gathering steam.


5 posted on 04/24/2012 6:36:09 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: BO Stinkss

No, if you want to be left alone - do not violate a Security Check Point. When an alarm trips (as in the case with Grandma) - she needs to be checked out first. Injecting others is a known method for bypassing security and creating choas.

If you don’t want to go through security, fine ... drive, take a bus, train or bike.

I like to fly, I fly approximately 2-3 trips a month for the past several years - security is not that big of a deal. It takes all of 1 minute to x-ray my baggage, and 3 seconds to scan me. I OFTEN get a pat-down following the microwave scan because I wear a T-shirt under my shirt, and boxers under my pants. 15 seconds for a quick pat - and I’m on my way.

If this is too much for you to bear ... then drive. The TSA has a job to do, they are under constant criticism, and they operate in plain sight of everyone who passes through security, as well as everyone who has passed through.

Parents, control your children. If they make this mistake, it takes 30 seconds to correct; but if the parents create a scene, then it’s a huge mess. But, like it or not; security WILL be done for the safety of everyone.

Again, if you don’t like it - I suggest you drive your car.


7 posted on 04/24/2012 6:40:20 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: BO Stinkss

I walked a trail yesterday here in suburban eastern Kansas and saw a woman (I assume it was a woman) in a full burka with a shawl over that. There were two men with her and she was pushing a little boy on a swing. I felt like walking over and taking photos with my iPhone. Then it occurred to me to flash the men (I’m 64 and a bit overweight). In other words, it evoked in me hostile thoughts. Then I wanted to go back and try to rescue her and the little boy. Sad. I did stare for a long time and with no apologies. I then saw one of the men walking towards the porto potty and made sure I got there first. When I came out he was not waiting. LOL. Hopefully he decided that if an infidel female had just used it he couldn’t.


8 posted on 04/24/2012 6:42:18 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: BO Stinkss
Note that this information comes to us via the UK press.

It is officially time to evacuate the United States of America. I am doing all I can to get out, now.

9 posted on 04/24/2012 6:43:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: BO Stinkss
The TSA has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with conditioning of the chattel.

We are mere moments away from a turn key police state.

10 posted on 04/24/2012 6:43:11 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: Hodar

Sheep


11 posted on 04/24/2012 6:44:34 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: BO Stinkss

TSA needs to be abolished


12 posted on 04/24/2012 6:47:26 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Hodar

L

13 posted on 04/24/2012 6:47:35 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Hodar
"I like to fly..."

Maybe you just like the pat-downs ...

14 posted on 04/24/2012 6:48:23 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: BO Stinkss
The Time Is Coming ...

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15 posted on 04/24/2012 6:51:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Hodar
"I like to fly..."

Maybe you just like the pat-downs ...

16 posted on 04/24/2012 6:52:26 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: BlueLancer; Hodar

Sorry about that - double tap ...


17 posted on 04/24/2012 6:54:25 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: Hodar

Ever read the 4th Amendment, it says “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

These are unreasonable searches. How many terrorists have the TSA caught? I’ll tell you, NONE. NOT ONE. They’ve all been caught by other passengers after they’ve been through security. Oh, I’ll admit the TSA is great at finding 3-1/2 ounces of fluid instead of the allowed 3 ounces or fluid in a gallon bag instead of a quart bag. They are great at groping women and children and stealing your property but they are absolutely useless as far as making you safe.

Remember, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin. You obviously deserve neither.


19 posted on 04/24/2012 6:56:50 AM PDT by Train Collector (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Isn’t it odd that some airports can and have opted out of TSA involvement!
Isn’t it even more strange that one in particular, is in a city in turmoil by the Federalies is Sanford, Florida?

http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/local/sanford-opting-out-tsa-security/nLRqy/


At this link, notice the room where the Press conference was held.

WHAT: Press Conference on Airport Security
WHEN: 11:00 a.m., Tuesday, March 13, 2012
WHERE: Vigilante Room

http://transportation.house.gov/news/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1550

The Zimmerman lynching started about then. ODD? Not so ODD?


20 posted on 04/24/2012 6:57:44 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: BlueLancer
Sorry about that - double tap ...

Isnt' that Rule #3 for survival in Zombieland?

21 posted on 04/24/2012 6:58:16 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
"Isnt' that Rule #3 for survival in Zombieland?"

I don't know ... my weapon-of-choice is a shotgun.

22 posted on 04/24/2012 6:59:23 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: SkyDancer
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23 posted on 04/24/2012 7:00:24 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: BO Stinkss

This crap has to stop!


24 posted on 04/24/2012 7:05:18 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: BO Stinkss
Thoroughly Stupid Agency living up to it's potential.
25 posted on 04/24/2012 7:09:02 AM PDT by JayAr36 (Old enough to remember when this was a Free Country)
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To: Train Collector
Oh, I’ll admit the TSA is great at finding 3-1/2 ounces of fluid instead of the allowed 3 ounces or fluid in a gallon bag instead of a quart bag.

They aren't even doing that anymore. I just flew to Nor Cal and back to So Cal. I had the proper see-through bag with all my liquids in it and I had stored it in one of the zippered pouches in my suitcase (I didn't check any luggage).

I forgot to take it out of my suitcase when going through the scanners, twice, and no one said a thing. I also had hand lotion and hand sanitizer in my purse that I had forgotten about and that went through as well.

The only thing one employee worried about was the size of my carry on bag and that was on the return trip. I had to prove that the bag had already been approved on the fight there. Crazy!

26 posted on 04/24/2012 7:10:21 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Have a Blessed Good Friday)
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To: samtheman

“The war on terror is over... but the war against American citizens is just gathering steam.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding . . . . We have a Winner!

We have met the enemy, and he is us.


27 posted on 04/24/2012 7:10:42 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Sirius Lee
Totally agree.
This is not about security. This is about conditioning and control. We are being conditioned. We are forced to hand over our rights in the name of national security, to people who have their own interests to satisfy.
If this was 30 years ago and a TSA agent put his hands on my brothers crotch... my Dad would have handed that person his head.
There are no more real men left in this country. Just sheep that sooner or later WILL be slaughtered.
We are doomed.
28 posted on 04/24/2012 7:12:27 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Train Collector

And you ARE secure in your person ... when you are not on someone else’s land. The airport is a PUBLIC place, not your private land, nor your home.

Flying is not a right - it is a priviledge. As to how many terrorist they have caught, we do not know, nor will we ever know. Why? Because that information is classified.

Is TSA perfect? Nope, nothing of man is, or ever can be. Are there bad apples in TSA? Yup, we have bad individuals in every aspect of our life. Cops, Secret Service, soldiers, Border Agents, Drug enforcement, Bankers, Investment Agents, Doctors, Dentists, Teachers, etc. But guess what? When they are caught, you will find no stronger adovate than me, for throwing the book at them and incarcerating them to the limits of the law.

What has the TSA found? Well, some idiots from the war zones packing C4 in their carry-on to take back home to Mom. Assortments of pocket-knives, box cutters, endangered animals, drugs and pistols.

But, how many hi-jackings have we had in the past 10 years? How many successful terrorist attacks have we had? Zero, zip, nada. We are also cutting back on the illegal drug trade that used to rely heavily upon the airlines for tranporting the ‘goods’.

The bad guys still want to kill us, and if not kill - then to make us afraid. That is what terrorists do, accomplish political ends by fear and intimidation. The TSA have denied them this means to further their cause.

And if the result is that I and my fellow passengers must have a hand touch me at my chest pocket, or above my left knee (for some reason, those are my hot-spots); then so be it. I arrive safe, secure and despite travelling with some expensive equipment, I have never failed to arrive to my destination with my gear intact.

If you think the US has hard security, I suggest you compare our security against any other country. And it’s not just the airlines - try taking a cruise. You will get the metal treatment and your luggage is scanned prior to departure and upon return to the ship at every port of call. Yet, people don’t mind that at all.


29 posted on 04/24/2012 7:12:32 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

Perhaps you are not aware that soon you will not be able to drive, take a bus, board an airplane or a train without a Federal Identification card. Delaware already has such a system. I refuse to give them the documents they require (marriage license, birth certificate, etc.), so my license is marked “Not for Federal Identification”. Papers, please.

Don’t know about you, but I was born a free man and i will die as one. I REFUSE to wear chains and bend my knee to any one, save He Who made me.


30 posted on 04/24/2012 7:15:40 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: BlueLancer
I don't know ... my weapon-of-choice is a shotgun.

Nah, against Zombies you need a head-shot. A shotgun while spreading lots of buckshot (or quarters) around, doesn't focus on the area that needs to be hit.

A .22 holds 15 Long Rifle or 22 Shorts, but I'd be looking for the Ruger 10-22 with the round magazine. Low recoil, low noise (comparitively speaking), and I'm not a bad shot. Plus the ammo is small, light and cheap.

31 posted on 04/24/2012 7:16:20 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: BO Stinkss
Is there a question on the application to become one of the "Thousands Standing Around" (TSA) rent-a-cop that asks:

1. Is applying common sense to situations you might encounter beneficial or not and;

2. Please define the term "Logic."

If the answers to (1) is "We don't need to use no stinkin' common sense" and

(2) "WTF is Logic," then they are moved to the front to the line and automatically hired.

What is more scary-- and someone who is more knowlegable than I care to enlightmen me on WHERE the TSA gets its authority to now roam the highways and byways, stopping us for random searches--these Nazi-like, Jackbooted THUGS are now going to be intruding into our lives even for those of us who have intentionally eschewed flying and are now driving long distances (as I did some 1,500 miles when I vacationed in Florida this past Winter) in order to avoide these morons and their stooopid procedure (which as far as I know, have yet to foil ONE SINGLE terrorist threat) at airports.

32 posted on 04/24/2012 7:19:57 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: BO Stinkss

The TSA was just doing their job. Terrorizing Americans.


33 posted on 04/24/2012 7:23:20 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hodar

And what are we to do when the TSA starts doing searches on trains, automobiles, buses and at high school proms? Oh, wait minute! They are already doing that.


34 posted on 04/24/2012 7:33:55 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Hodar
Flying is not a right - it is a priviledge (sic).

It may be a privilege, but it is NOT a privilege granted or controlled by the government. It is a privilege granted by a contract between the passenger and the carrier.

What we have now is a governmental intrusion carried out in typical ham-handed, incompetent, useless and counter productive manner by an agency of the government which is essentially a third party pursuing its own agenda.

35 posted on 04/24/2012 7:34:42 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Hodar

“If you don’t want to go through security, fine ... drive, take a bus, train or bike.”

And what will you have people do when the TSA starts doing security for buses, trains and ships?

You are an enabler of our loss of freedom.


36 posted on 04/24/2012 7:36:38 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: samtheman

That, it seems, is the real purpose of this regime..


37 posted on 04/24/2012 7:37:26 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
-these Nazi-like, Jackbooted THUGS

As one who worked part time for TSA I can state, with 100% certainty, that not one agent wears jack-boots. Even the knuckle dragging mouth breathers.

The majority wear Magnums with orthotic insole supports because of having to stand around a long time while doing nothing.

38 posted on 04/24/2012 7:37:40 AM PDT by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: BO Stinkss
Does Obama and Biden along with there extensive entourages go through these same humiliating searches when they fly? If not, why not?
39 posted on 04/24/2012 7:38:49 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: BO Stinkss

41 posted on 04/24/2012 7:41:26 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Hodar
Flying is not a right - it is a priviledge.

Actually it is a right. Your rights and liberties are expansive. The government's powers few and enumerated. I suggest that we shut down the TSA and stop being such a nation of pu*sies.

42 posted on 04/24/2012 7:45:14 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: Hodar
The airport is a PUBLIC place

Some airports are privately owned businesses.

But, how many hi-jackings have we had in the past 10 years?

Before 9/11, how many hi-jackings of planes did we (the U.S.) have in the previous 10 years?

The answer is: one. A Fedex Plane was hijacked in 1994 by a disgruntled employee as it took off in Memphis.

The time before that was in 1978 when a teenage girl hijacked a plane leaving out of Kansas City.

So in the 16 years between 1978 and 1994, we had no TSA and no hijackings.

43 posted on 04/24/2012 7:47:26 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Hodar
I like you fly often.
I agree with your point about “Parents, control your children”, but I have some disagreement regarding TSA “operate in plain sight of everyone”. TSA operates with total impunity and with little regard for common sense.

All too often when caught doing something irrational or plain stupid, TSA falls back on "following procedures" without us citizens ever know what those procedures are.

Having seen too many “affirmative action positions” filled with uneducated and uncouth persons who know very little about security, I conclude that TSA is a quazi-reparations operation with only secondary emphasis on preventing terrorism.

If we do not find a better way, this will only worsen.

44 posted on 04/24/2012 7:55:04 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: BO Stinkss
... a TSA spokesman did not apologise and insisted that correct procedures had been followed.

I live in a country where a Federal security apparatus, run by Napolitano/Pistole, 'Peter Principled' incompetents, believes 4 year old girls are a threat to national security.

I wasn't born in this country. I was born in the United States of America. Unfortunately, that country is long gone.

45 posted on 04/24/2012 7:59:52 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Hodar

You are pathetic. You make me sick. I am sorry I share a country with your kind.


46 posted on 04/24/2012 8:02:28 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: BO Stinkss

The key thing to remember is that any part of the US within the land and coastal border, every airport, and the vicinity of every government building is currently a de facto police state.

The TSA VIPR program will shortly expand the police state to encompass rail and bus stations and major highways.

In a police state, the citizen must obey police authority or face the consequences like this little girl did. It is all to keep you safe, citizen.


47 posted on 04/24/2012 8:07:36 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Hodar
Authoritarians like you are just as bad as the liberal-progressive types in my opinion. Both types of person believe in total state control over the individual.

Oh yeah, by the way, they are rolling this stuff out onto roads, buses, trains and everywhere else.

48 posted on 04/24/2012 8:09:03 AM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: Hodar
I OFTEN get a pat-down following the microwave scan because I wear a T-shirt under my shirt, and boxers under my pants.

????? WTF You consider this normal? Just SOP? You consider it normal to be patted down for wearing underwear? Oy vey.

49 posted on 04/24/2012 8:10:32 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Hodar

The war is over...they can go home now. Their job is done.

As long as my tax dollars pay for the upkeep and construction of airports etc, I will NOT take a bus or drive...and I will NOT be happy with their gropes and arbitrary rules.

Enough is e-dam-nuff. We are AMERICANS...that USED to mean something.


50 posted on 04/24/2012 8:12:46 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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