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Romney hires openly gay spokeman
American Vision News ^ | April 23, 2012 | Joel McDurmon

Posted on 04/24/2012 8:24:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Provided courtesy of DefendtheNaturalFamily.com

americanvisionnews.com

Joel McDurmon

MetroWeekly.com is exposing the whole truth that Washington Post would not reveal:

Mitt Romney’s campaign tonight announced that it has hired Richard Grenell, an out gay former George W. Bush administration official, to serve as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee’s “national security and foreign policy spokesman,” according to a report from The Washington Post that did not mention Grenell’s sexual orientation.

Grenell served through September 2008 in the Bush administration as a spokesman to the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations — and told The Advocate‘s Kerry Eleveld as he left the administration that it was his hope that New York would have marriage equality soon and that he would one day be able to marry his partner, Matt Lashey. The couple has been together 10 years. . . .

Andrew Sullivan, who had endorsed Obama’s 2008 run, wrote of the news, “For Romney to have an openly gay spokesman is a real outreach to gay Republicans, a subtle signal to moderates, and the Santorum faction’s reaction will be worth noting.”

Grenell is not just gay, but a gay activist who pushes for same-sex marriages.

At the end of Grenell’s service in the Bush administration, he took a notable whack at the administration, telling The Advocate‘s Kerry Eleveld of his effort to have his partner, Matt Lashey, listed in the United Nations’ Blue Book, which is “a reference guide of contact information for different member states of the United Nations as well as diplomatic personnel and their spouses.”

Grenell had attempted to have Lashey’s name added several times, to no avail. He told The Advocate back in 2008, “What put me over the edge was a friend and colleague who met her spouse after I was already with my partner — they got married and subsequently were put into the Blue Book in a matter of days.”

The State Department eventually told him that the Defense of Marriage Act prevented the listing. Although he protested the decision behind the scenes, Lashey’s name was not ever added, which led to his coming forward to criticize the treatement publicly as he left his post.

HuffPost has noted that since the choice, Grenell has scrubbed his Twitter account and website of offensive material...

Read this story at americanvisionnews.com ...


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To: muawiyah

Exactly - we can discuss the pros and cons of hiring a gay employee all day. THIS case is about this man making a calculation and a statement by putting this man in a position where his face is going to hit the airwaves, probably on a weekly basis. I think it may pick him up some votes among those squishy rinos who have allowed themselves to be made to feel guilty by the chocolate pushers. But it’s likely to LOSE him tens of millions of votes among regular folks, the folks who know that kind of business is WRONG and should not be promoted.

Personally, I fear that TTIM wants to destroy marriage between one man and one woman so he can live the principle—polygamy. He’s a plyggie.


101 posted on 04/24/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: MindBender26
Are we really so small that we care what adults do in their bedrooms?

The asylum doors were opened. The inmates escaped. They've wandered outside.

102 posted on 04/24/2012 9:53:32 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: EternalVigilance

Dont agree, a conservative House and Senate, more driven by the local electorates, would put bills in front of any of the GOP candidates, Romney included, that they would sign, including repeal of Obamacare, and real spending cuts (not just screwing national defense while doling out more welfare).

With Obama you get only more debt, more treason, more apologies to the truly evil Islamic radicals.


103 posted on 04/24/2012 9:53:54 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: EternalVigilance

Just more reason NOT to vote for this tool.
104 posted on 04/24/2012 9:54:06 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: MindBender26

What they do in their bedrooms they will do in office.

Or do you think they can turn off their pervert genes once in public and suddenly vote conservatively?

You go ahead and refuse to care. We conservative can blame you for the Obama or Romeny choices we are facing.


105 posted on 04/24/2012 9:55:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

You did not answer my question


106 posted on 04/24/2012 9:55:01 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: concerned about politics

Hell I don’t care about the guy being gay but I don’t want to hear about it and I damn sure won’t accept his agenda.


107 posted on 04/24/2012 9:55:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Magnum44

That’s all specious nonsense. Romney will, and already is, driving the entire Republican Party even further to the left. The signs are everywhere, easily visible to anyone who isn’t willfully blind.


108 posted on 04/24/2012 9:56:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: concerned about politics
Are we really so small that we care what adults do in their bedrooms?
 
The asylum doors were opened. The inmates escaped. They've wandered outside.

 

 
 
 
And apparently they've wandered inside FR too.


109 posted on 04/24/2012 9:57:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Magnum44

That’s because you asked a false question that wasn’t worth the pixels you devoted to it.


110 posted on 04/24/2012 9:58:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: JimRed
When he worked for Bush, was he able to keep his personal perversion separate from his duties?

Why sure he did Red, they never try to advance their agenda, any more than the communist party has.

111 posted on 04/24/2012 9:59:54 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: ichabod1

my guess is that it has to do more with polls.

The polls say that more americans have decided to become wishy washy on the definition of marriage.

They’ve decided to say “live and let live”.

That sounds nice - except that isn’t the goal for the LGBT folks.

They don’t want to stop there. They want their “new” definition to be universal. They want to force the adoption agencies to accept the new definition. They want the schools to bring it into the curriculum. They want churches to be forced to ignore scripture and accept the new definition.

Most americans have buried their heads in the sand concerning this.
And just like O stabbed catholic bishops in the back, so will the LGBTs when the start with their anti-church anti-bible “hate speech” garbage that they’ve already pulled in Canada.

I’ve had it....I’m not going to personally participate in this crap.

I’m done with the republicans...I’m an official independent now.


112 posted on 04/24/2012 10:00:16 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I too have a gut feeling to just write in Sarah Palin. She would be the best candidate AT THIS TIME, to steer us CLEAR from the wreckage and destruction we are facing, as well as bring SANITY, true CONSERVATIVE sanity, BACK to this country. I believe with my whole heart, that she would do what is right and would not be taken in by the elite, establishment or any of the “party line” BS.

She has guts, courage and intelligence. Anyone, ANYONE, who still thinks she’s dumb or stupid, is completely ignorant and stupid themselves. She has more brains and balls than ANY of our supposed representatives in DC (or elsewhere for that matter)......save Allen West.....and if she would run, WITH Allen West....what a dream ticket THAT would be. IMO


113 posted on 04/24/2012 10:00:48 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: EternalVigilance

And what should a man do? Seek some grandee, take him for patron, and like the obscure creeper clasping a tree-trunk, and licking the bark of that which props it up, attain to height by craft instead of strength? No, I thank you.
Dedicate, as they all do, poems to financiers? Wear motley in the humble hope of seeing the lips of a minister distend for once in a smile not ominous of ill? -No, I thank you. Eat every day a toad? Be threadbare at the belly with grovelling? Have his skin dirty soonest at the knees?
Practice feats of dorsal elasticity? No, I thank you. With one hand stroke the goat while with the other he waters the
cabbage? Make gifts of senna that countergifts of rhubarb may accrue, and indefatigably swing his censer in some beard? No, I thank you. Push himself from lap to lap, become a little great man in a great little circle, propel his ship with madrigals for oars and in his sails the sighs of the
elderly ladies? No, I thank you. Get the good editor Sercy to print his verses at proper expense? No, I thank you. Con
trive to be nominated Pope in conclaves held by imbeciles in wineshops? No, I thank you. Work to construct a name upon the basis of a sonnet, instead of constructing other sonnets? No, I thank you. Discover talent in tyros, and in them alone? Stand in terror of what gazettes may please
to say, and say to himself, “At whatever cost, may I figure in the Paris Mercury!” No, I thank you. Calculate, cringe, peak, prefer making a call to a poem, petition, solicit, apply? No, I thank you! No, I thank you! No, I thank you!


114 posted on 04/24/2012 10:02:10 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance
Ken Mehlman - Bush's '04 re-election campaign manager and '05-07 RNC Chairman.
115 posted on 04/24/2012 10:02:24 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: cripplecreek
You said exactly what I feel about EVERY person who is gay:

Hell I don’t care about the guy being gay but I don’t want to hear about it and I damn sure won’t accept his agenda.
116 posted on 04/24/2012 10:03:13 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Dont agree with the homosexual agenda at all...but also dont see the “right” in the lynching...neither the lynching of a sole lost to the devils ways, or the lynching I am getting right now...getting banned right now would be a relief from the hate being directed right now.


117 posted on 04/24/2012 10:03:28 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: Scotswife
The polls say that more americans have decided to become wishy washy on the definition of marriage.
They’ve decided to say “live and let live”.

That's because they feel helpless to stop it. Judges and politicians are forcing it on them against their will. They feel they have no choice but surrender.
This is what happens when the people no longer have control over their government.

118 posted on 04/24/2012 10:04:06 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: cripplecreek

Would you go along with killing US America based on it being too far gone to recover?


119 posted on 04/24/2012 10:04:22 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

That response is one I would expect from a Democrat Obama voter...dont you have the intellect to actually converse?


120 posted on 04/24/2012 10:05:35 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: EternalVigilance
I'm a MORMON ...
 
 
 

http://www.affirmation.org/


121 posted on 04/24/2012 10:06:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: cripplecreek
Romney hires openly gay spokeman

That sucks!

122 posted on 04/24/2012 10:06:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26

What of they’re making meth in their bedroom? What if they’re corrupting minors in there?


123 posted on 04/24/2012 10:07:05 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Lucky9teen

One of my lifelong friends is gay. We can remain friends because he doesn’t feel a need to flaunt his preferences and most important doesn’t push an agenda.


124 posted on 04/24/2012 10:07:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Romney hires openly gay spokeman

Typo alert.

I'm SURE it is supposed to be Pokemon!

125 posted on 04/24/2012 10:07:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Magnum44
I dont waste my time talking to cranky old A-holes.

Do you have some other use for them?

126 posted on 04/24/2012 10:08:18 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: concerned about politics

I’m not sure where the line in the sand will be...so far we already have see adoption agencies shut their doors over this.

At some point they are going to try to force clergy to perform ceremonies.

If they can’t get me to accept their new definition - then they’ll settle for introducing it into my kids’ classrooms.

At some point - many people are going to rebel.

I don’t have alot of skin in the game right now...my vote for president is always nullified by my residency in a blue state.

Anyhow....the pubbies will never see another dime from me - and they won’t be able to count me as one of them.


127 posted on 04/24/2012 10:09:02 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Magnum44
That response is one I would expect from a Democrat Obama voter...dont you have the intellect to actually converse?

Interesting, coming from you, in the context of your posts on this thread.

I'm thinking you're going to make a fine Romney Republican.

128 posted on 04/24/2012 10:09:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: EternalVigilance
Looks to me like the Romney Republican Party is, as expected, fully aflame already.

You just HAD to do it!!


Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

129 posted on 04/24/2012 10:09:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I dont need you to explain conservatism to me. I just asked you to answer the question...Or is that to difficult?


130 posted on 04/24/2012 10:09:48 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: Magnum44
Yes, blatant disregard for the Constitution and the rule of law.

Well seeing as how this guy (and most of his ilk) advocate for making sexual perverts a protected class of citizens, with extra spethial rights above and beyond those guaranteed to the rest of us - his appointment should be intolerable to anyone who seeks to uphold the Constitution.
131 posted on 04/24/2012 10:10:47 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: caww; EternalVigilance
Interesting his gay appointment is scrubbing his website of anything offensive...


 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


132 posted on 04/24/2012 10:11:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Utah Binger
Jim Dabakis is the new Democratic State Party Chairman for the state of Utah. He was elected in a statewide race, making him the first openly gay man elected in a statewide race, and he is one of the first few openly lesbian or gay Democratic Party Chairs nationwide.

I can't WAIT to seat what happens on one of these, uh, chairs...



Wait! Yes I can!!

133 posted on 04/24/2012 10:13:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scotswife
"That sounds nice - except that isn’t the goal for the LGBT folks. They don’t want to stop there. They want their “new” definition to be universal. They want to force the adoption agencies to accept the new definition. They want the schools to bring it into the curriculum. They want churches to be forced to ignore scripture and accept the new definition. Most Americans have buried their heads in the sand concerning this."

The corollary is that you can guarantee that a acerbic Beltway gay drawn to political power (a) belongs to the cadre you describe and (b) thusly has no place at the top of the GOP candidate's policymaking.

134 posted on 04/24/2012 10:14:29 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Utah Binger

An RM?

There goes the hopes and dreams of yet another BYU girl working on her MRS degree!


135 posted on 04/24/2012 10:14:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: EternalVigilance
When you want to converse, converse. You judge my responses to attacks on me asking a simple question. Go back to my comment 10. Thats where I started. The Romney haters piled on that and here I am in a flame war...coming from me you say?
136 posted on 04/24/2012 10:16:24 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: Magnum44; Responsibility2nd; EternalVigilance; little jeremiah; trisham; metmom; DJ MacWoW; onyx; ..
Dont agree with the homosexual agenda at all...

What a load of crap!

You are all over this thread pushing the homosexual agenda.

but also dont see the “right” in the lynching...neither the lynching of a sole lost to the devils ways, or the lynching I am getting right now. Please explain how opposing militant homosexualism is "lynching."

getting banned right now would be a relief from the hate being directed right now.

I take it the anti-FReepers are now requiring a zot before they accept you as a full-fledged member?

137 posted on 04/24/2012 10:17:04 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Magnum44
...getting banned right now would be a relief from the hate being directed right now.
 
 
 
I don't think you'll get banned. What you are espousing here are libertarian values. See my tagline for what I think of libs. But in any event - JR does not ban libs here at FR. Unless they go too far in their personal beliefs supporting the gay agenda.
 
But as for me? I have always believed that what a person does in the privacy of their own bedroom is my business. Because what a person thinks - he does. And what they do in private - they do in public.
 
And if anyone supports the rights of gays even on a personal and private level, then they are not conservative.

138 posted on 04/24/2012 10:17:13 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Utah Binger
An RM?

#35 and #70 might have caused problems...


The Rules

  1. Learn and obey all missionary rules.
  2. Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
  3. Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
  4. Don't debate or argue.
  5. Center your mind on your mission.
  6. Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
  7. Cut your hair regularly.
  8. Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
  9. Be neat and clean.
  10. Bathe frequently.
  11. Use deodorant.
  12. Polish your shoes.
  13. Iron your shirt and business suit.
  14. Arise at 6:30 A.M.
  15. Study for 2 hours every morning.
  16. Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
  17. Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
  18. Exercise regularly.
  19. Write in your journal regularly.
  20. Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
  21. Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
  22. Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
  23. Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
  24. Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
  25. Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
  26. Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
  27. End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
  28. Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
  29. Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
  30. Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
  31. Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
  32. Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
  33. Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
  34. Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
  35. Stay with your companion during all activities.
  36. Do not go on road trips.
  37. Do not leave your assigned area without permission
  38. Do not watch television.
  39. Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
  40. Do not listen to the radio.
  41. Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
  42. Do not participate in musical groups.
  43. Do not participate in athletic teams.
  44. Do not sponsor athletic teams.
  45. Do not engage in contact sports.
  46. Do not engage in water sports.
  47. Do not engage in winter sports.
  48. Do not engage in motorcycling.
  49. Do not engage in horseback riding.
  50. Do not engage in mountain climbing.
  51. Do not embark on a private boat.
  52. Do not embark in a private airplane.
  53. Do not handle firearms.
  54. Do not handle explosives.
  55. Do not swim.
  56. Do not play full court basketball.
  57. Do not play basketball in leagues.
  58. Do not play basketball in tournaments.
  59. You may play half-court basketball.
  60. Never be alone.
  61. Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
  62. Be loyal to your companion.
  63. Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
  64. Pray with your companion every day.
  65. Study with your companion every day.
  66. Plan your work with your companion every day.
  67. Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
  68. Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
  69. Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
  70. Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
  71. Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
  72. Do not arise before your companion.
  73. Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
  74. Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
  75. Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
  76. Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
  77. Do not flirt.
  78. Do not date.
  79. Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
  80. Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
  81. Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
  82. Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
  83. Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
  84. Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
  85. Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
  86. Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
  87. Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
  88. Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
  89. Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
  90. Do not telephone parents
  91. Do not telephone relatives.
  92. Do not telephone friends.
  93. Do not telephone girlfriends.
  94. Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
  95. Take problems and questions to your mission president.
  96. Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
  97. Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
  98. Obey all mission rules.
  99. Obey the laws of the land.
  100. Do not get involved in politics.
  101. Do not get involved in commercial activities.
  102. Do not give any information about the area.
  103. Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
  104. Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
  105. Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
  106. Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
  107. Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
  108. Be courteous.
  109. Provide community service.
  110. Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
  111. Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
  112. Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
  113. Your mission president must approve your housing.
  114. Keep your housing unit clean.
  115. Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
  116. Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
  117. Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
  118. You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
  119. Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
  120. Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
  121. Maintain your health.
  122. Eat a healthy diet.
  123. Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
  124. Follow the approved exercise program.
  125. Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
  126. Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
  127. Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
  128. Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
  129. Be immunized.
  130. Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
  131. Budget your money carefully.
  132. Keep a record of what you spend.
  133. Do not spend more than your companion.
  134. Do not loan money.
  135. Do not borrow money.
  136. Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
  137. Pay your bills before leaving an area.
  138. Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
  139. Do not waste money on souvenirs.
  140. Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
  141. Be a frugal photographer.
  142. Do not accumulate excess baggage.
  143. Obey custom laws and regulations.
  144. Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
  145. Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
  146. Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
  147. Do not drive without a license.
  148. Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
  149. Do not drive members’ cars.
  150. Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
  151. Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
  152. Use cars only on approved mission business.
  153. Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
  154. Be conscious of safety at all times.
  155. Drive defensively.
  156. Wear your seat belt.
  157. Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
  158. If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
  159. Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
  160. Know bicycle safety rules.
  161. Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
  162. Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
  163. Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
  164. Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
  165. Go directly to your new area when transferred.
  166. Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
  167. Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

139 posted on 04/24/2012 10:17:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Scotswife
At some point - many people are going to rebel.

I think our last chance is to work on electing good conservative state governments who will stand up to the feds.
140 posted on 04/24/2012 10:17:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Magnum44
Dont agree with the homosexual agenda at all...but also dont see the “right” in the lynching...neither the lynching of a sole lost to the devils ways, or the lynching I am getting right now

In the beginning, they said all they wanted was tolerance. We made the mistake of giving it to them. Now, they're invading every aspect of everyone elses life.
All the welfare people wanted during the depression was a little work, a little food and a little cover. Now, half of everyones paycheck is stolen by some tax or government fee to pay for everything their little lazy hearts desire.

When we give the left an inch, personal liberty loses miles. That's why these things have to be stopped before they start. There's always a bad, bad consequence to anything liberal. That's why their agenda has to be defeated, and coddling it or protecting it doesn't help.

141 posted on 04/24/2012 10:17:48 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Utah Binger
Hello?

Headquarters??

We may need to update this stuff!!



What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?
 




prophet kimball"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982


spencer kimball"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65


spencer kimball"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
-
Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196


"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.


kimball"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965


"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155


"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

142 posted on 04/24/2012 10:18:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: benewton

How many did Gideon have?


143 posted on 04/24/2012 10:18:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: atc23
Transgender



Galatians 5:12
As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

144 posted on 04/24/2012 10:20:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: chooseascreennamepat

Bye


145 posted on 04/24/2012 10:21:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: wagglebee

Wow, you have to ping all your friends to come pile on the fight?

If you read anything I wrote you would know I dont agree with the homosexual lifestyle at all.

Tell you what, I change my mind, lets just shoot them all.


146 posted on 04/24/2012 10:21:30 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: Magnum44

If a person kicks their dog every day in their private life, do you have a right to be appalled by that and decide that the person’s character is poor and therefor you don’t want to hire them?


147 posted on 04/24/2012 10:22:12 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: ichabod1


Somehow it's stalled or frozen up though on reload...it may require a REBOOT...
148 posted on 04/24/2012 10:22:15 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: CountryClassSF
Get ready for more etch-a-sketch politics.

SOMEbody make an E-a-S teleprompter!

149 posted on 04/24/2012 10:23:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: CountryClassSF
SOMEbody make an E-a-S teleprompter!

How I miss the MARQUEE command in the old HTML!

150 posted on 04/24/2012 10:23:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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