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Obama Wins Close or Loses Big (O will be either a narrow winner or big loser in November 2012)
American Thinker ^ | 04/25/2012 | J. Robert Smith

Posted on 04/25/2012 5:57:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

President Barack Obama: narrow winner or big loser in November. Presidential election history gives us indications that Mr. Obama either squeaks back into the White House or gets an undignified boot in the back of his designer trousers. In modern presidential elections, only Jerry Ford lost his re-election bid narrowly. Odds are, if Mr. Obama loses, it will probably be on the order of Hoover (1932) or Carter (1980).

If Mr. Obama wins, it's closer to George W. Bush's re-election in 2004. But the conditions are dramatically different in the country from 2004, and not to Mr. Obama's advantage.

A narrow win by Mr. Obama would be thanks to bungling by Mitt Romney and the Republicans, because based on the president's record alone, Mr. Obama has richly earned a pink slip from voters.

The Obama presidency is a big, fat failure, despite all the spin emanating from the White House, Democrat flaks, and the left's petting-zoo media. Americans are living Mr. Obama's economic failure daily; their dreary experiences (or those of family and neighbors) cut right through the liberal-manufactured smoke and fog.

Campaigns of distraction distract only monetarily.

Incumbents are always about their performances, their records. A politician up for re-election is a referendum-in-the-making; an up or down vote by the electorate. That's the core strategic consideration of Romney's General Election campaign.

In a referendum election, all Mr. Romney has to do is satisfy voters that he's competent, advocates sensible remedies to the nation's economic dilemma, and plans to stop Uncle Sam's profligate spending and not raise taxes. Romney is well-suited to accomplish all three aims. Romney's character hasn't been an issue through a grueling intraparty vetting; it shouldn't be one in the General Election, despite anticipated efforts by Mr. Obama's team and the left to do so.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012; elections; obama

1 posted on 04/25/2012 5:57:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I HOPE Obama is a LOSER in Nov by the NARROWIST of Margins!


2 posted on 04/25/2012 6:00:41 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate to say it but that would mean Obama wins a close one. But then I live in loony ground zero land so my perception may be tainted.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 6:01:01 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: SeekAndFind

“O will be either a narrow winner or big loser in November 2012”......

We already know he is a “big loser”, now all we have to do is make sure he is not a narrow winner either.


4 posted on 04/25/2012 6:01:18 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: US Navy Vet

RE: I HOPE Obama is a LOSER in Nov by the NARROWIST of Margins!

Why don’t you hope for a landslide defeat instead?


5 posted on 04/25/2012 6:02:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The Obama presidency is a big, fat failure, despite all the spin emanating from the White House

Well... CONSERVATIVES understand it's a big, fat failure, but to the burgeoning parasite class, he's King, and to the average voter in the dumbed-down, marginally aware American electorate, he's "acceptable."

I don't buy the "Obama wins close or loses big" theory. Obama would have to lose states the GOP hasn't won in a generation.

6 posted on 04/25/2012 6:03:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: SeekAndFind
The American people will be the biggest losers regardless of who wins in November.

The only antidote we have against a second Urkel administration or a first Romney one is to elect as many Tea Partiers as possible to Congress.

7 posted on 04/25/2012 6:03:45 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

BHO will win reelection (primarily because of Romney). BHO’s campaign slogan “why vote for Romney, when you already have me, after all we are the same”.


8 posted on 04/25/2012 6:04:10 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama Wins Close
Only with massive voter fraud.
I predict he loses in a landslide ... not unlike president Jimma'.
9 posted on 04/25/2012 6:06:20 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind
Historically, "undecideds" go 2-to-1 for the challenger in a Presidential election with an incumbent.

That alone says Ubama is toast, unless they have somehow hijacked the vote-counting process, which is entirely possible.

10 posted on 04/25/2012 6:08:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I'm gonna win big cause I'm solidifying my base!

11 posted on 04/25/2012 6:09:00 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obama loves to wok dogs)
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To: SeekAndFind
If its close then I have to give the edge to Obama because of vote fraud. The ‘Rats are much more accomplished at cheating than the ‘Pubs. Looking at the electoral map I just don't see how there can be any decisive win for the ‘Pub nominee. Union fraud is just too strong in states like PA, MI, and WI to tip those into the ‘Pub camp. The Northeast is hopeless, except for perhaps a narrow win in NH. If we win at all, it will be more like 2000 or 2004 in terms of electoral count. But I'll take a narrow win over a defeat any day.
12 posted on 04/25/2012 6:10:15 AM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

Rat always beats Rat-Lite.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 6:21:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are plenty of Freepers who will cheer an 0bama victory at the expense of Mitt Romney.


14 posted on 04/25/2012 6:21:21 AM PDT by EscapedDutch ("Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money" - Lady Margaret Thatcher)
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To: svcw

“Vote Obama in November. Even the Republican candidate agrees with him”

The slogans write themselves.


15 posted on 04/25/2012 6:24:47 AM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: EscapedDutch
There are plenty of Freepers who will cheer an 0bama victory at the expense of Mitt Romney.

Hopefully they will also cheer for SCOTUS Justice Eric Holder and Van Jones..

16 posted on 04/25/2012 6:25:52 AM PDT by IamConservative (Shall I try and perhaps fail or shall I do nothing without fail?)
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To: US Navy Vet

So it gives the Leftists and diverse crowd a reason to riot?


17 posted on 04/25/2012 6:28:03 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I want him to lose so big the media—national and local—have to acknowledge the Carter size failure.


18 posted on 04/25/2012 6:31:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind
Those of us who follow politics - and fear for the future of our nation - will be predicting the outcome of the presidential election from now until November 7th. Polls will go up and down and one week it'll be Obama in a landslide, another Romney a slam-dunk winner, etc, etc. The 'petting zoo media' will shill relentlessly for Obama and they'll be digging through Romney's past looking for scandal material, ala Sarah Palin's e-mails, but probably won't find much beyond the fact that he's wealthy and a Mormon and there is only so much they can do with that.

With his abysmal record I can't see how Obama can win and I don't believe leftist operatives can steal enough votes to put Obama over the top, unless it really is a very close vote. I see it as 1980 all over again, except without a conservative winner. Romney will not govern like a conservative but Obama is so extremely leftist that even a 'moderate' Republican such as Mitt Romney will seem 'conservative' and I can guarantee the leftmedia will constantly portray him as 'extremely conservative' should Romney win the election. At this point constant carping about Romney not being conservative, while true, accomplishes nothing. Barack Obama is a distinct threat to America and must be defeated.

19 posted on 04/25/2012 6:33:36 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: US Navy Vet
Democrats don't lose narrow elections.

If they are not beaten by a wide margin, their election fraud machine, perfected over the years, will carry them over the top.

20 posted on 04/25/2012 6:38:58 AM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: bkepley

I live in a traditionally blue collar union Democrat area, and I can tell you that aside from college campi, poor black neighborhoods and amongst some activist loonies, Obama is NOT at all popular. I say he loses big. Especially since the railroading of George Zimmermann is causing so many to wonder what Barry would allow the Black Panther to do to the rest of us in a second term.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 6:39:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Washi
If they are not beaten by a wide margin, their election fraud machine, perfected over the years, will carry them over the top.

He is not well-liked on FR, but Hugh Hewitt wrote a book which illustrates that beautifully.
22 posted on 04/25/2012 6:41:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Washi

Ah, I was wondering how this headline could be anything approaching a “prediction”.

Of course, unless you beat ‘rats by a wide margin,
they win through fraud.


23 posted on 04/25/2012 6:43:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Jim Scott

I think that obama will be landslided in November.

There are LOTS of folks who are ready to go vote against this monster. Not so much about voting for a rino, but voting against baraq.

What we have to watch against is what happens when he loses.
Baraq’s and holder’s people will ramp up the racial indignation and raise hell. And his media will encourage them.


24 posted on 04/25/2012 6:48:58 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m assuming the poster wants to see Obama defeated but, assuming the R nominee is Romney, doesn’t want to see him win big, either. Conservatives fear that if Romney is elected, much less in a landslide, their views will be disregarded altogether.


25 posted on 04/25/2012 6:56:56 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: SeekAndFind

I fully expect Obama will win by a comfortable margin in November. That’s in popular vote. In electoral votes he’ll have a landslide.


26 posted on 04/25/2012 7:21:50 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: Lady Lucky

What?


27 posted on 04/25/2012 7:34:20 AM PDT by DWC (historian)
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To: SeekAndFind

I disagree. He may well lose by a little. There is going to be a lot of money in this campaign, and Obama is likely to invest much of it in a narrow group of states that he has to tip in his favor. He could easily win some of the swings states and lose others, and be real close. 2004 would have flipped with Ohio going for Kerry, and it would have been loss by a marginal amount for Bush. Depending on how the race plays in the fall. Obama could win by a lot, or win by a little. He could lose by a lot of lose by a little. It is totally up in the air right now how this will play in the electoral votes.


28 posted on 04/25/2012 10:10:24 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Jim Scott; SeekAndFind
At this point constant carping about Romney not being conservative, while true, accomplishes nothing. Barack Obama is a distinct threat to America and must be defeated.

If Obama goes down in a landslide, then there will probably be significant gains in Congress. If that happens, I don't think Congress will be as deferential to Romney as it was with GWB and his domestic agenda. I'm thinking more like rejecting Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court and comprehensive immigration reform with amnesty. I would have preferred a conservative, but Obama must go. ABO!

29 posted on 04/25/2012 5:17:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Romney wins we have to look forward to him turning to obama right after he’s sworn in and saying “I want to thank president obama for his selfless service to America over the last four years.”


30 posted on 04/25/2012 8:58:23 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: ScottinVA
Obama would have to lose states the GOP hasn't won in a generation.

Y'mean like Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina and Florida? Yeah, 2008 blue states wasted by the decrepit Bush/McCain abortion, states that never went republican before, right? Howsabout pulling your head out of rectal defilade and looking at the bright side for a change.

31 posted on 04/25/2012 9:33:04 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: US Navy Vet
I HOPE Obama is a LOSER in Nov by the NARROWIST of Margins!

Although I don't think it will happen, I'd like to see him trounced thoroughly, especially in the electoral college vote, but a good thumping in the popular vote would also be richly deserved.

32 posted on 04/25/2012 11:22:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: hinckley buzzard

No, Pollyanna, I`m referring to not only Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, but a host of other longtime democrat strongholds needed to amass Romney`s “big win” the article supposes.

Got it?


33 posted on 04/26/2012 3:03:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will the Progressive, adolescent punks try an October Surprise?

Just asking.


34 posted on 04/26/2012 5:17:13 AM PDT by ripley
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To: ripley

Does a bear shit in the woods?


35 posted on 04/26/2012 5:40:37 AM PDT by sport
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To: US Navy Vet
Ummmmmm why?
36 posted on 04/26/2012 9:17:19 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ScottinVA
Well... CONSERVATIVES understand it's a big, fat failure, but to the burgeoning parasite class, he's King, and to the average voter in the dumbed-down, marginally aware American electorate, he's "acceptable."

My favorite nephew is a forty year old extremely successful professional living in Boise, ID and this was his point precisely. He's using it as an excuse to buy up every gun he ever wanted before Jan 20th 2013. Well, I understand his motivations because I have a wife, too. But I keep telling him to remember the old movie Kelly's Heroes. Remember the Donald Sutherland character who was playing the stoned out hippy-ish Tank Commander (Odd Ball)? That guy kept chastising those around him to stop putting out negative waves because they invariably lead to self fulfilling prophesies of the very B-A-D sort. That holds true here as well.

If we subconsciously have Obama voted back into office it's going to happen -- either because we can get behind Mittens or because we somehow have Obozo tapping into supernatural powers that he doesn't possess but can't be overcome. I remember Jimmy Carter's 30 point lead over Reagan in April before the election. And I remember the landslide win for Ronnie. At that point, we could have run the Cookie Monster and he'd have beat Carter just as easily and I feel that way now because as was pointed out in this article, Obozo's negatives and positives are far different (and more difficult) than Carters. SO (~roaring~) ENOUGH with the negative waves, already! And maybe somebody can post that youtube clip since I can't (server blocked).

37 posted on 04/26/2012 9:31:37 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: US Navy Vet

I just want to see the liberal heads explode as they claim racism kept Obama from a second term. Seeing the media defeated is worth having Romney elected all by itself.


38 posted on 04/26/2012 11:12:42 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I just want to see the liberal heads explode as they claim racism kept Obama from a second term. Seeing the media defeated is worth having Romney elected all by itself.


39 posted on 04/26/2012 11:12:54 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: ScottinVA
In the 2000 election Gore lost his home state of Tennessee. Tell me the last time a "FAVORITE SON" lost his home state. Also in that same 2000 election, West-by-God Virginia went Republican and that hasn't happened in a very long time. Like 80+ years. So don't tell us that these things are impossible or even unlikely. Todays volatile electorate makes every national election an adventure into the unknown. As I said in my other post, I remember the Reagan landslide in 1980. About this time in the process, Carter was ahead by 30 points! And what happened on election day? Hmmmmmmmm?
40 posted on 04/27/2012 9:20:12 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ExSoldier
I remember the Reagan landslide in 1980. About this time in the process, Carter was ahead by 30 points! And what happened on election day? Hmmmmmmmm?

I get all that... but we don't have a Reagan now, and today's America bears little resemblance to the one that elected him in 1980.

41 posted on 04/27/2012 10:56:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012)
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To: ScottinVA
today's America bears little resemblance to the one that elected him in 1980.

Granted but actually, conditions in this country are also far WORSE than they were in 1980. I think that the vast majority of Americans will vote the pain they feel in their wallets, be that pain at the gas pumps, through job loss, belt tightening and having to do far more with far less or a combination of the above, it's going to be far more potent than it was for Ronnie. Remember, too Reagan started out in politics as a Democrat. So have a number of prominent Republicans. I think Mitt has a durn good chance of a blowout. One honest man one honest ANONYMOUS vote. That's what took Jimmy Peanut down. When the curtains shut or the ballot is in the machine, folks are anonymous and can vote how they really feel. People are REALLY hurting now and I'll bet it gets worse by November.

42 posted on 04/27/2012 2:28:22 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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