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Who has your vote now? Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Neither?
04/25/12

Posted on 04/25/2012 1:34:31 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

This yahoo poll needs some freeping. Being a yahoo poll I would have thought Obama would be further ahead.


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To: vmivol00; fieldmarshaldj

I meant to include you in post #150.


151 posted on 04/26/2012 8:34:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: little jeremiah; ZULU; Cobra64
I guess the bright side is Romney probably won’t bow to the Kind of Saudi Arabia.

(ARE you sure???? I don't think you know Mormonism very well...Here's a headline from just last week...one article among MANY like this arising out of Utah:)

BYU-Hawaii student prez: Mormons made me a better Muslim: BYU-Hawaii » New student-body president credits LDS classmates with making him a better Muslim

So, Mormonism constantly vies for alignment with Islam...and why not? Muslims deem Christians as "infidels"; Mormons join them in labeling Christians as "apostates".

Both of those religions are in league to denigrate, castigate and slander worldwide Christianity...

How "inspiring" that is...that so many Christians want to vote for a candidate (either Romney or Obama) who deems them and their entire family and fellow worshippers and ancestors to be spiritually AWOL

152 posted on 04/26/2012 8:45:15 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Always A Marine; Resettozero; Drew68; JustSayNoToNannies; An American!; Tucker39
Wasting your vote on a third party candidate is worth a half vote for Obama. [Always a Marine]

No vote for Obama from me. Not even a half-vote because I’m giving it to someone other than Obama. You can figure anyway you like. Not voting Romney or Obama.Lots of amateur mathematician-philosophers out lately on FR. [ResettoZero, post 110]

The "logic" of trying to portend a third-party vote as a "half-vote" for Obama is the same logic that has to conclude -- by this very same logic -- that ALL votes not cast for the victor were "wasted" votes.

If your vote didn't wind up electing somebody, then it didn't "count" for anything. It didn't make a difference.

Hence...since the MSM will promptly destroy Mandate Mitt by showing his meandering social-issues hypocrisy...his support of racism the first 13 yrs of his ADULT life...his "spirit-birth" on another planet...minus a birth certificate to show it...his proxy necro-baptisms...who knows how many holocaust victims??? And the fact that he & all temple Mormons think they are gods in embryo on their way to full-grown godhood...

Mitt will be the losing candidate...and all Mitt advocates will have thereby wasted their vote and forever traded in their conservative credentials & reputation for a lentil-soup candidate.

Once people see there's no social-issues or trim-govt difference in the candidates, the true conservatives will realize, "Why bother" voting for Zero's twin brother? They are BOTH Big govt. 800-lb gorillas!

153 posted on 04/26/2012 8:58:31 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian
You are right.

We shouldn't vote for a Mormon for President. We should just stand around with our fingers up our butts and allow an anti-American, gun-grabbing, Marxist, Muslim, Racist Imposter to get re-elected. THAT will show those Mormons.

That would make me feel much better.

Thanks for straightening out that little conundrum for me.

154 posted on 04/26/2012 9:07:37 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: Colofornian

“The “logic” of trying to portend a third-party vote as a “half-vote” for Obama is the same logic that has to conclude — by this very same logic — that ALL votes not cast for the victor were “wasted” votes. “

Thank you. Thank you. Needed to see someone else put this in writing.


155 posted on 04/26/2012 9:11:33 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Yes.

We certainly showed John McCain last time around. THAT was a BRILIANT act of defiance - not voting for that cranky old RINO and letting Obama get elected.

BRILIIANT.

Just tell me, if you can't take over an EXISTING political party and turn it around, what makes you think you can start an independent party and be successful?

The Marxists tried that some time ago and even THEY were smart enough to learn from experience they couldn't do it and so they took over the Democrat Party and became far more successful.

We have to TAKE OVER the GOP - from the BOTTOM UP, not the top down. And we have to hold our noses, take a bitter pill, and vote for Romney to keep that Muslim Marxist bastard from totally destroying America. WE KNOW Romney's problems. But he is clearly the lesser of two evils. If we can elect enough conservatives to Congress, THEY will hold Romney's feet to the fire and make sure he doesn't stray.

MEANTIME, we need to TAKE OVER THE GOP COMMITTEESHIPS and run conservative candidates at the lower levels to position ourselves for a party “putsch” in 2016.

156 posted on 04/26/2012 9:21:57 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

AGAINST Obama.


157 posted on 04/26/2012 9:22:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: xzins
They are a recognized party, he has experience with our government, and there are a number of states already having the CP on its ballot with others surely to acquiesce prior to the election.

Do you know which states do NOT have the CP on their ballot? New Hampshire didn't in 2008...'Live Free or Die', my *ss...

158 posted on 04/26/2012 9:26:24 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ZULU

“Yes. We certainly showed John McCain last time around. THAT was a BRILIANT act of defiance - not voting for that cranky old RINO and letting Obama get elected. BRILIIANT.”

RTZ: Why are you angry at me? I voted for McCain.

“Just tell me, if you can’t take over an EXISTING political party and turn it around, what makes you think you can start an independent party and be successful?”

RTZ: Do not intend to do this; never did.

“The Marxists tried that some time ago and even THEY were smart enough to learn from experience they couldn’t do it and so they took over the Democrat Party and became far more successful.”

RTZ: That’s correct.

“We have to TAKE OVER the GOP - from the BOTTOM UP, not the top down.”

RTZ: Agree with you.

“And we have to hold our noses, take a bitter pill, and vote for Romney to keep that Muslim Marxist bastard from totally destroying America. WE KNOW Romney’s problems. But he is clearly the lesser of two evils. If we can elect enough conservatives to Congress, THEY will hold Romney’s feet to the fire and make sure he doesn’t stray.”

RTZ: On this we part company. Conscience dictates no vote for Romney or Obama. No apology. Hope you are right about Conservative Congressmen holding his feet to the fire if he’s elected.

“MEANTIME, we need to TAKE OVER THE GOP COMMITTEESHIPS and run conservative candidates at the lower levels to position ourselves for a party “putsch” in 2016.”

RTZ: Okay. Lead the way.


159 posted on 04/26/2012 9:43:17 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: who knows what evil?

I’ll look it up and get back with you if I find it.


160 posted on 04/26/2012 9:43:56 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: ladymac; EternalVigilance; Windflier
We shall never fight for conservatism by empowering its enemies within our own party, i.e. Robamney and those who funded and concocted his despicable campaign against ever available conservative. Not one positive advertisement as to what the Mittwit would do in the White House to make the USA a better place or to implement policies consistent with actual conservatism. Thousands of negative advertisements to distort the records of his opponents and spew endless lies, slanders and libels against them. What do the fat cats who funded those lies, etc., expect in return? Nothing that is good for our country, our party or our movement. You betcha!

I have been listening to the pretty poison of the GOP-Elite for 44 years now and voted for each and every GOP nominee in that time. No more! I have put up with each and every sellout of conservative positions. No more! If they want my vote from here on out, they have to convince me. I owe them absolutely nothing. I won't vote for Romney and neither will anyone I can influence. The GOP-Elite wanted to exclude the conservative base of the party. They succeeded. Now let's see how they do in electing their soulless, unprincipled, pro-abort, medicine socializing, anti-family, gun grabbing, faggot friendly, global warming believing, anti-military, envirowhacko, leftist judge appointing, money, money, money obsessive POS WITHOUT conservative votes. At least Obozo is term limited and even the spineless cretins who constitute GOP House and Senate leadership will resist Obozo occasionally. If Robamney is in the White House, they will join the Demonrats in being zombies for his every leftist whim and then he would be eligible for re-election. There is no meaningful policy difference between Romney and Obozo as to ordinary folks, as is proven by Romney's term in Taxachusetts and Obozo's in public office.

162 posted on 04/26/2012 12:45:03 PM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: Ditter

How sad for Michael Berry who probably hallucinates that he is somehow part of the conservative movement. Of course, he is part of the problem and not part of the solution, whatever he may think. There is no meaningful difference for ordinary folks between Obozo and Romney. The GOP Elite wanted and used their megabucks to cram Romney down the party’s throat. Now, as Ed Koch would say, they have to be punished by the politically dispossessed base of that party.


163 posted on 04/26/2012 12:52:36 PM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: Gator113

Neither here.....the GOP got this far without my vote they can go the rest of the way without it as well.

Additionally I will not vote for Romney’s agenda.....which surely remains to be seen pending on how he shakes the etch a sketch. .....most likely he’ll remain pro-abortion which is a no brainer best not to vote for him.


164 posted on 04/26/2012 1:00:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: Always A Marine

No, not bingo at all.....

When we vote for a candidate, we are voting not just for a person, but for that ‘person’s platform’....Ballots do not contain room for voters to indicate why thy have chosen a particular candidate... ..it therefore will always be “for” the candidate and ‘all’ which he stands for.

Only votes “For” a candidate will be counted. Non votes are just that...not there to count.

Further nobodys sitting home...they will vote straight conservative down ticket.


165 posted on 04/26/2012 1:07:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Believe it if you will...that’s the same line the GOP has said for years. Carl Rove said it clearly recently...”The Concervatists will have temper tantrums for a time , but then they’ll get behind our candidate as always”.

You and voters as yourself will prove them true....

Neither of these candidates have this country’s welfare in mind...they have their power agendas only in mind and the goals necessary to achieve those despite the publics views.

This will be the first time I will not be voting for the Party Candidates......but I willnot stand before my God and place my hand to either of their agendas which fly in His face. Not going to happen.


166 posted on 04/26/2012 1:12:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: ZULU
We should just stand around with our fingers up our butts and allow an anti-American, gun-grabbing, Marxist, Muslim, Racist Imposter to get re-elected.

The fix is in doo-doo you're vote means nothing now. You're simply a spectator they put on a good show for so you'll feel significant. You're not. Reality is a good thing to come terms with.

167 posted on 04/26/2012 1:15:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: BlackElk
I understand what you are saying about the GOP elite and I agree with you. But I have gotten over the hurt feelings and moved on to the greater issue. The ONLY issue is getting rid of obama!
168 posted on 04/26/2012 1:22:18 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter; BlackElk

Romney is so minimally “better” than 0h0m0 that many people will not be able to stomach voting for him.

MITT ROMNEY: GAY PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE IN BOY SCOUTS
GLAAD ^ | 4/26/2012 | Aaron McQuade

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2876839/posts


169 posted on 04/26/2012 1:33:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah
Even my gay male hairdresser is sorry he voted for obama and he doesn't intend to make that mistake again. My husband lefty cousin from California apologized for deleting my emails when I warned him about obama! This monster will destroy our beautiful country is he gets 4 more years.

yeah I am mad at the GOP for shoving Romney on us but I am not vindictive enough to try to get back at them by not voting for him if he is our candidate. That is what my dear mother would call “cutting off your nose to spite your face”!

170 posted on 04/26/2012 2:07:57 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

It’s not a question of being vindictive, it’s a question of puking bile so nonstop that voting may be impossible.


171 posted on 04/26/2012 3:18:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Sirius Lee
I'm among the ABO crowd, but I checked out Virgil Goode, and I liked what I saw. I'll check him out some more, and if I don't find anything wrong, I just may throw my support behind him.

I figure if I can help make him a winnable alternative, then great.:) If not, I can still vote ABO.:(

BTW, thanks for offering what few others have offered, an alternative.

172 posted on 04/26/2012 3:24:26 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: ZULU
You are right. We shouldn't vote for a Mormon for President. We should just stand around with our fingers up our butts and allow an anti-American, gun-grabbing, Marxist, Muslim, Racist Imposter to get re-elected. THAT will show those Mormons.

And, of course, you endorse a man who...
...believes that pre-born butts ought to be available for research -- per mom & dad's "OK"
-- a man who says he didn't originate in America at all but near a star called "Kolob"...
...and is just stopping on Earth long enough before he advances from his current "god-in-embryo" status...
...before he gets his very own planet...
...who's ancestors fueled Russian Marxism,
...and embraced racist tenets & practices for at least the first 13 adult years of his life!

And you want to make Him THE LEADER of the free world????

(If anybody ever gave you a conservative badge...time to turn it in)

173 posted on 04/26/2012 6:44:06 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

And the idiot in there NOW is BETTER?????

I think if anybody gave you a badge for rational thought, you ought to turn it in now.

Analytical thinking is obviously NOT your strong point.


174 posted on 04/27/2012 5:39:05 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: ZULU
And the idiot in there NOW is BETTER?????

Who's says he's better?

Frankly, if I was talking about THE anti-Christ running vs. a reincarnated Hitler, I wouldn't be using relativistic language (like a LOT of Freepers) by claiming one is "better" than the other...or that I would want to endorse either of them...

175 posted on 04/27/2012 4:43:23 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

Like it or not, we are going to have one or the other.

We can either choose our poison or let somebody else do it for us.


176 posted on 04/27/2012 5:40:21 PM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: Sirius Lee
About Virgil Goode, I did some research and found this. Forgetting about the author's comments and opinions, what do you think of this letter that Goode supposedly sent?

Please don't take this as race baiting. I'm just vetting a potential candidate.

177 posted on 04/28/2012 4:35:12 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
About Virgil Goode, I did some research and found this.

"...When I raise my hand to take the oath on Swearing In Day, I will have the Bible in my other hand. I do not subscribe to using the Koran in any way. The Muslim Representative from Minnesota was elected by the voters of that district and if American citizens don’t wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran. We need to stop illegal immigration totally and reduce legal immigration and end the diversity visas policy pushed hard by President Clinton..." ~ VG

I tend to agree 100%, but then I am an islamophobe and make no apologies. They are the enemy. Thank God a candidate has the stones to come out and say it

178 posted on 04/29/2012 6:19:19 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
I will vote for the most conservative candidate running for president, which will not be the two listed. For those who say that I am enabling Obama, then all I got to say is that there isn't that much differnce between the two.

Since there is not that much difference, I'd much rather have the dims be blamed for what happens between 2013-2017. Believe me, people were begging for Reagan in 1980, after the Ford- Carter era of 1974-1980.

179 posted on 04/29/2012 6:50:00 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Colofornian

30 years ago, if someone would have told me that 30 years later that both choices for president were non-christian, and that one of them was talking about eating dog,......... I’d said they were b-s crazy.


180 posted on 04/29/2012 6:57:31 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Colofornian

30 years ago, if someone would have told me that 30 years later that both choices for president were non-christian, and that one of them was talking about eating dog,......... I’d said they were b-s crazy.


181 posted on 04/29/2012 7:02:29 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: sport
"Go tell it to the Republican Party."

Pretty much correct, but Bush Jr and the neocons really killed conservatism in the GOP. I don't think conservatism (or the country) will ever recover from the damage done by Bush. Obama is Bushs' legacy.

However in this election the most important thing is to fire Obama. Then maybe we conservatives can start our own party and fire Romney in 2016. The NY Conservative party should be our model.

182 posted on 04/29/2012 7:20:48 AM PDT by jpsb
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