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Voting for Romney? Where is your line in the sand? (Vanity)

Posted on 04/26/2012 9:18:03 AM PDT by Student0165

I want to ask those who consider themselves conservatives, and are going to vote for Romney because he happens to have an (R) instead of a (D) behind his name on the ballot sheet, where do you draw your personal line in the sand and say "No more"? For stupid people reading this (liberals and DHS type workers), I don't mean violence - I mean not voting for "the lesser of two evils".


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To: SnakeDoctor
The lesser of two evils is still ‘evil’ — which is bad. But, the lesser of two evils is also still ‘lesser’

I had considered voting for Cthulha ("Cthulhu for President. Why vote for a lesser evil?") but ultimately I guess I'll have to agree with you, hold my nose and, yet again, take the lesser evil. I hate it but I can't fathom what 4 more years of Obama would do to this country.

51 posted on 04/26/2012 9:42:15 AM PDT by Armando Guerra
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To: TruthHound

So Romney will save the Supreme Court?

If you say so...

http://www.amycontrada.com/Romney_s_Judiciary.html


52 posted on 04/26/2012 9:42:15 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: PeteB570

Take a look at Romney’s appointments as governor and you will see that his picks are no better.


53 posted on 04/26/2012 9:43:28 AM PDT by Ingtar (When I donate to FR, it does not take the money and run as every politician I donate to does)
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To: Student0165

I’m voting for Romney, because I’m not wasting my vote for 4 years of total gridlock.

I’m voting to increase the tea party pressure on the GOPe. Romney may be a eggsucker of a candidate, but he will have to sign the bills that hit his desk. He might even cut the government by a billion.

Either way, someone’s ass is out in 2016; if we all make it that long.


54 posted on 04/26/2012 9:43:36 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Student0165

Romney is not my first choice...but I don’t see where the question could possible be between him and obama!!! I’m hoping that we keep the house and take the senate too, that will keep Romney a bit more on the conservative side....I hope!


55 posted on 04/26/2012 9:43:56 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: brownsfan
Explain how and why a second Obama term is the best option?

First term Romney vs lame duck Obama. Then in four years, "Romney 2016" vs post-Obama.

56 posted on 04/26/2012 9:46:11 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: Student0165


57 posted on 04/26/2012 9:48:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Student0165

Romney is beyond my line in the sand.


58 posted on 04/26/2012 9:48:53 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: Jewels1091

I voted for my man NEWT in our AZ primary back in Feb - I’m not so foolish as to take my pen and go home because if I don’t vote for MITT in NOvember WE WON’T HAVE A HOME TO GO TO if Obama gets re-elected! IT’s that simple...I’ll change my affiliation after the election to whatever the new conservative party becomes (and it is coming - but not before I help vote OUTthe SCOURGE OF AMERICA - BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! and I believe helping all THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS MEN AND WOMEN get elected so we can have control over the house and senate!


59 posted on 04/26/2012 9:49:35 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: Student0165

Dunno, but I’m pretty sure Obama is on the other side of it.


60 posted on 04/26/2012 9:50:06 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Student0165

There is no lesser evil... there is just evil... and obama and romney are both evil men. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR EITHER POS!

LLS


61 posted on 04/26/2012 9:50:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: jobim
Voting to me is a purely pragmatic decision. Government is a necessary evil, and my job as a citizen is to limit its evil encroachments on society. Currently, sitting in the White House is the most evil president in the history of the Republic. It is my absolute duty to do what one man can do to remove him.

Well said. Government itself is a necessary evil. We have a 2 party system and the election winner will be one of the candidates of the two major party's. Willard or Hussein. Choose one. For anyone on the right side of the political spectrum, write-in's, 3rd party's, or sitting home pouting is effectively an endorsement of the status-quo.

62 posted on 04/26/2012 9:51:35 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Student0165

I campaigned for and financially supported Cain.
I campaigned for Gingrich.
I will color in a box for Romney.

The next four years could see as many as four Supreme Court justices needing to be replaced. Republicans can bully Romney into nominating conservative justices. Four justices can change the future landscape of this Great Nation. But in which direction will we go?


63 posted on 04/26/2012 9:51:35 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Student0165

After voting for every Republican candidate since Nixon’s second term, I did not vote for Dubya the first time.

I spent 4-years with a perfectly clear conscience and a calm view of politics.

I then chickened out and voted for Dubya the next time because I didn’t want Kerry to be Commander in Chief while we were in Iraq.

Those next 4-years nearly killed me with rage at Dubya’s RINO ways.

I’m never going to cave again. I will only vote conservative. From now on, “The
event is in the hand of God”.


64 posted on 04/26/2012 9:51:43 AM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt Romney)
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To: Student0165

Sorry, but when faced with two evils I think following any course other than what is required to get the lesser is just dead stupid. I loathe McCain, but I still voted for him to try to avoid the current disaster we’re suffering through. The spoiled children really proved a point by refusing to vote for McCain last time, didn’t they? Yeah that worked out well for us. Five trillion thanks guys. Instead of a McKennedy we could work on to force right, we’ve got a committed leftist appointing life-term judges to our federal courts at every level. Allowing a hardcore leftist to stay in office just to spite the RINO establishment is the wrong hill to die on. Just as I love it when Democrats vote for Greens, you can be sure the Democrats will love it when you vote for anyone other than the GOP nominee. This country was steered off course by increments over decades and I’m afraid that’s the only way we’ll get it back where it belongs. We need to go for wins where we can, but it’s dumb not to also limit damage where that’s the best option available.


65 posted on 04/26/2012 9:51:57 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Student0165

I voted for Sarah the last time. It will be based on the VP choice - which will be none of the current suggestions. mitt is a LIBERAL.


66 posted on 04/26/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Would you rather be victimized by a shoplifter or a serial killer?


67 posted on 04/26/2012 9:54:52 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Student0165

Stabilize the patient first...

Vote for Romney in 2012, then primary challenge him in 2016.

Even if we get “the status quo”, that is better than a second Obama term. People would vote for Hillary if she had an R after her name because she would be slightly better than Obama.

I don’t like the choice, and will likely write in Romney on the “RINO” ticket to express my displeasure.


68 posted on 04/26/2012 9:55:40 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Student0165

I will not vote for Romney.
Romney invented mandate healthcare. Obama liked it so much he used it as Obamacare for the whole country. Now we get to pick between Obama and Romney. No way in H!
I plan on voting for anyone but Obama or Romney and hen I’ll vote against any incumbent no matter what party.


69 posted on 04/26/2012 9:55:45 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: donna
I’m never going to cave again. I will only vote conservative. From now on, “The event is in the hand of God”.

Yes! Trust God and leave the consequences to Him.
70 posted on 04/26/2012 9:55:53 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: FewsOrange
You are correct.
I'm in Texas and got to have zero say in the GOP nomination.
I voted McCain in 2008 and never felt good about it.
Romney is way over the line of what I consider tolerable. I just can't in good conscience do it.
Plus the GOP will do much better in the next two cycles if bozo wins and we continue to have elections.
The GOP will self destruct if Romney wins and a GOP congress gives him what he wants.
The only positive I can think of (which is anything from certain) is the SCOTUS. Romney can't be counted on to put a conservative in.
But bozo will for sure put on another Karen type or worse.
All that to say I won't criticize family, friends, or fellow FReepers for making the choice to hold their noses and pull the lever against zero. Particularly in states like Virginia, Florida, Ohio, PA, etc.
71 posted on 04/26/2012 9:56:21 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Student0165

What I seek to understand is what kind of judges will Milt appoint to the SCOTUS. We know what leftist slugs little barry bastard will appoint and the feckless Congress will approve. Will Milt nominate appeasement types to placate the commie democrats, like he did in Massoftwoshits? I wonder if there is any way to gauge this? ... And for the record, I don’t believe one word out of the liar’s mouth. He has shown he will lie with a straight face to get votes, but he remains a liberal scumbag.


72 posted on 04/26/2012 9:56:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: TruthHound

“FREEPERS!!! Support Mitt Romney as though the fate of a FREE United States depended on it. That is the reality!”

Sorry
I truly believe its too late. True Obamas is a dark commie red inside but Romney is a dark shade of pink. Why do I say this ... just contemplate where they align

Pro Choice - Both
Pro Gay Agenda- Both
Anti Gun- Both
Appoint only liberal judges - Both
Government controlled health care - Both
Big government solutions through high taxes - Both
Views the citizens as subjects to be controlled through policy- Obama
Views the citizen as virtual employees to be controlled by corporatist policy views- Romney
crony capitalism - both
beieve in global warming - both

and Im sure there are those her that can find more where they are mor the same than different...

I will not vote for a pinko no mater the shade.....


73 posted on 04/26/2012 9:57:36 AM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: TruthHound

“FREEPERS!!! Support Mitt Romney as though the fate of a FREE United States depended on it. That is the reality!”

Sorry
I truly believe its too late. True Obamas is a dark commie red inside but Romney is a dark shade of pink. Why do I say this ... just contemplate where they align

Pro Choice - Both
Pro Gay Agenda- Both
Anti Gun- Both
Appoint only liberal judges - Both
Government controlled health care - Both
Big government solutions through high taxes - Both
Views the citizens as subjects to be controlled through policy- Obama
Views the citizen as virtual employees to be controlled by corporatist policy views- Romney
crony capitalism - both
beieve in global warming - both

and Im sure there are those here that can find more where the two are more the same than different...

I will not vote for a pinko no mater the shade.....


74 posted on 04/26/2012 9:58:17 AM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Student0165; All

C’mon y’all, time to vote for the Goode instead of the lesser of two evils!


75 posted on 04/26/2012 9:58:42 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: Student0165

I will vote for Mitt....I believe he can fix this economy, he’s a successful hardworker and I think his wife will make a lovely first lady.....


76 posted on 04/26/2012 9:59:45 AM PDT by geege
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To: Student0165

Everything posted here shows that Romney will move with the political winds, and the success of his campaign organization, the Olymics, Bain Capital show that he is a talent executive. So we will be voting for him, and then turning up the heat so that he governs as a Constitutionalist and not a Progressive.


77 posted on 04/26/2012 10:01:46 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Student0165

Two reasons to do this: appointments, especially judicial, and exxecutive orders.
Two important reasons.


78 posted on 04/26/2012 10:02:52 AM PDT by steve8714 (The answer, surprisingly, is Carnahan.)
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To: Student0165
Why do you dimwits keep asking such stupid questions? It is real simple folks: If you don't vote for Romney, Obama will win. What is so hard to understand about that? I know that the liberals would love for enough Conservatives to be dumb enough not to vote for Romney so that Obama will win. In short, you can either live in a fantasy or the real world, and in the real world there are two choices and only two choices: Obama or Romney. Take your pick. A line in the sand does not help.
79 posted on 04/26/2012 10:03:10 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: PeteB570
I’d vote for 3 week old road kill if it got the current Prez out of office.

I would too - cheerfully - but road kill is unfortunately not one of our choices. We're stuck between a hateful but inept big government socialist who has the virtue of being too incompetent to accomplish his goals, or a potentially far more capable and somewhat more mainstream big government liberal who is likely to be more effective in moving America in the direction liberals dream of. Romney is several large steps too far to the left for my tastes.

80 posted on 04/26/2012 10:03:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Lady Lucky
If Romney doesn’t suffer a decisive defeat in November, he’s young enough to come back in 2016.

Only if conservatives offer up such pathetic alternatives.

81 posted on 04/26/2012 10:04:07 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Student0165

I’m having to come to grips with the fact that there is a difference between:

1) voting for Romney in the general election, because 4 more years of Obama is unacceptable

2) supporting Romney

I’m not supporting Romney, but if the only way to get rid of Obama is to cast a vote for Romney then that’s what I’ll have to do (even it if means walking outside and throwing up afterwards).

Don’t mistake my vote for Romney as a vote FOR Romney, it’s a vote against Obama.


82 posted on 04/26/2012 10:04:57 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Don't mistake my vote for Romney as a vote FOR Romney, it's a vote against Obama.)
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To: AzSteven

Wow - a double-tap that ends up six posts after the original intended post? Impressive... :)


83 posted on 04/26/2012 10:04:57 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Student0165

Thanks for posting this... some pretty good responses to your question. I’m happy to see that most have realized that one-of-these-two-will-be-the-next-president and we MUST NOT let that be Obama.

Personally, I’ve been stunned by the level of vitriol being thrown at Romney from FReepers. I suppose the DUers are nastier but it’s hard to imagine.

It’s as if most FReepers are going through the various stages of Grief. Hopefully, they will get all the way to acceptance before November 2012.

Here’s an optimistic thought: I’m already looking forward to the Romney second term. The economic recovery, energy renaissance, stock market surge, and lowered unemployment will be fantastic. Then after the Senate supermajority occurs due to the 2014 mid-terms, most entitlements are reformed and the tax code improved.

Think about it...


84 posted on 04/26/2012 10:04:57 AM PDT by cheee (Good, Fast, Cheap ... you can only pick two...)
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To: Student0165
No vote I've cast in my entire life has ever had an effect on my solid conservative ideology. Nor will this one.

I fear an Obama second term considerably more than I fear a Romney first term.

When you take the emotion out of it, it's a pretty simple math problem. Obama gets more votes, conservatism suffers another setback.

Conservatism needs better House/Senate leadership.

85 posted on 04/26/2012 10:04:57 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I am not voting for Romney because he has an (R) in front of this name. I am voting for him BECAUSE of who he is running against. If his opponent was Jim Webb (for example) I might vote for a 3rd party. HOWEVER, he is running against an America Hater we stupidly put in charge of America. This is no normal election. We have a person in the WH who wants to tear this country down. Give me a snake-oil politician any day.


86 posted on 04/26/2012 10:05:10 AM PDT by shreve884
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To: Student0165

They have no line.

They are Party over Principle voters.


87 posted on 04/26/2012 10:05:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: greatvikingone

I voted for Perot and we got Billy Bob Clinton. I will enver vote thirda party again.

I will be voting a straight Republican ticket in order to not only clean out the White House, but to clean out every seat below it of vermin.

The Democratic party has become dangerous to the health of our Republic and it is time we sanitize it of socialist vermin.


88 posted on 04/26/2012 10:06:58 AM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: PeteB570

Ditto


89 posted on 04/26/2012 10:06:58 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: afraidfortherepublic
My personal line in the sand is ANYBODY EXCEPT OBAMA.

I hate to say it, but this is probably the most profound statement that I have heard on this particular subject. And I have to agree with it.

90 posted on 04/26/2012 10:07:46 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (I just don't know what to put here right now.)
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To: HwyChile

The Republicans have already ceded the election to Obama.

You’re insane if you think you can win an election when the best the candidate’s own supporters have to work with is “yeah, we know he’s a lying socialist chameleon, but...”


91 posted on 04/26/2012 10:09:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: FewsOrange

Agreed.


92 posted on 04/26/2012 10:09:36 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Thanks for all responses, and flames, in advance.)
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To: Student0165
I want to ask those who consider themselves conservatives, and are going to vote for Romney because he happens to have an (R) instead of a (D) behind his name on the ballot sheet...

You pretend to want to start a conversation but you begin by flinging a stupid, trivial, cliche insult.

Why wouldn't anyone reading your post simply conclude that you are too close-minded to be worth trying to engage in a discussion?

You have some growing up to do, "student".

93 posted on 04/26/2012 10:09:46 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: steve8714; Student0165


Well, on one of those important issues, Judicial Appointments, you've already lost with Romney.

His record is clear on this matter, he nominates left-wingers:

Out of 36 Judicial appointments, Romney appointed 27 hard-left Democrats.

Legal analysts say candidate Romney is different from Gov. Romney.

Liberty Counsel Action Vice President Matt Barber said Romney’s appointments were constitutional “living document” poster children.

“Many of Romney’s appointments were not only liberal, not only Democrats, but were radical counter-constitutionalists. How on earth can we expect that, as president, he would be any different?” Barber asked rhetorically.

“Actions speak louder than words, and Mitt Romney’s actions as governor scream from the rooftops that he cannot be trusted with this most important of presidential responsibilities.”

Barber cites two specific examples of Romney’s radical appointments.

“As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney not only failed in this regard, he appointed a number of very liberal, if not radical, ‘living, breathing’-minded judges to the bench,” Barber said.

“Two that come to mind were extreme homosexualists Marianne C. Hinkle and Stephen Abany,” he said. “They both had a long history of pro-gay activism, yet Romney didn’t hesitate to put them on the bench.”

“These are people who outrageously believe the postmodern notion that newfangled ‘gay rights’ trump our constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights,” he said.

Baldwin agreed, citing Romney’s statements about the two requirements he actually used when selecting judges.

“Romney did focus on two criteria: their legal experience and whether they would be tough on crime. In other words, the nominee could be a gay activist or a pro-big government, pro-quota, pro-gun control Democrat Party hack who detests every judicial principle treasured by our founding fathers,” Baldwin said. “But if he happens to be tough on crime and have prosecutorial experience, he gets past the Romney filter. Many of Romney’s nominees fit that description.”

Baldwin added that Romney did have some ideological criteria for many of his nominees:

“It was criteria commonly used by the left. For starters, his nominees were mostly pro-abortion. Indeed, while campaigning for governor in 2002, Romney told the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) that his judicial nominees would more likely protect abortion rights than would those of a Democrat Governor, according to notes from a person attending this meeting.”

Another Romney criteria, Baldwin explained, was “diversity.”

“The other criteria consistently emphasized by Gov. Romney in deciding judicial selections was ‘diversity.’ This is the silly notion that judgeships should reflect the population in terms of race and gender and even sexual orientation, regardless of a person’s judicial philosophy,” he said. “Clearly, the use of diversity quotas demonstrates Romney’s lack of a coherent conservative worldview.”

94 posted on 04/26/2012 10:09:47 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Aside from asking someone to be a victim, I find your analogy to be the most cogent so far.


95 posted on 04/26/2012 10:10:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Agreed.


96 posted on 04/26/2012 10:10:00 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Thanks for all responses, and flames, in advance.)
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To: Student0165

Because the primary mission is to remove this regime from power.

Of those who ran in the primary, only Ron Paul would cause me to hesitate.


97 posted on 04/26/2012 10:10:42 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HwyChile
you dimwits

Now there's a campaign message that's going to win folks over! /s

98 posted on 04/26/2012 10:12:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
At this point, I'm done. No Romney vote from me. No way, no how. The Republican Party does not own my vote. They have to earn it. They failed.

I know you. We played softball together as kids and when we wouldn't let you pitch, you took your ball and went home.

99 posted on 04/26/2012 10:12:39 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: bkepley
Only if conservatives offer up such pathetic alternatives.

And they will! They did it this year. They did it in 2008. They'll keep doing it. There's never enough backlash to dissuade them.

If we ever choose to scratch their eyes out rather than lie back and enjoy the assault, we may get a different result. But that takes fortitude and principles.

100 posted on 04/26/2012 10:13:12 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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